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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #140 on: September 18, 2017, 11:01:36 AM »
I've been on hold with them for over 3 hours and no one ever picks up the phone.
Anyone have luck with getting through since Sunday?
Friday I waited for 55 min. Yesterday I got through twice after about 10 minutes each.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #141 on: September 18, 2017, 11:25:47 AM »
Friday I waited for 55 min. Yesterday I got through twice after about 10 minutes each.

what times? i tried yesterday. was on hold for over 3 hours x 2 and no one took my call.
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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #142 on: September 18, 2017, 11:28:02 AM »
3 pm IL time (8am EDT)

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #143 on: September 18, 2017, 12:01:50 PM »
3 pm IL time (8am EDT)
thanks. maybe i called in prime time
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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #144 on: September 18, 2017, 01:07:01 PM »
got thru after an hour wait this morn.
they claim that there is no planned end to JFK-DUS-txl-tlv
anyone can explain/source why they think it may end after Oct 1st?

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #145 on: September 18, 2017, 02:21:58 PM »
It will end since they are only selling Flex tickets on their own website. That's usually a good indicator that the flight won't be operating.  You can buy a regular (non-flex) ticket for the 24th, but only flex tickets beyond that date. They won't fly empty planes for the few bookings they have. My guess is that once the results of the auction are announced, they will officially cancel any remaining long-haul and not rebook anyone.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #146 on: September 18, 2017, 04:57:11 PM »
how many people booked JFK-DUS-txl-tlv for sukkos

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #147 on: September 18, 2017, 05:34:38 PM »
It will end since they are only selling Flex tickets on their own website. That's usually a good indicator that the flight won't be operating.  You can buy a regular (non-flex) ticket for the 24th, but only flex tickets beyond that date. They won't fly empty planes for the few bookings they have. My guess is that once the results of the auction are announced, they will officially cancel any remaining long-haul and not rebook anyone.
And I'm still dreaming that the new owner may decide to honor the tickets and rebook.... All it cost is a dollar and a dream...

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #148 on: September 18, 2017, 06:00:01 PM »
It will end since they are only selling Flex tickets on their own website. That's usually a good indicator that the flight won't be operating.  You can buy a regular (non-flex) ticket for the 24th, but only flex tickets beyond that date. They won't fly empty planes for the few bookings they have. My guess is that once the results of the auction are announced, they will officially cancel any remaining long-haul and not rebook anyone.

many of us bought non-flex tix after the 15th, so officially they will offer a refund if cancelled. whats the science in switching sales to "flex-only" now?  either way, tickets sold today have the same rules as those sold anytime after the 15th?

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #149 on: September 18, 2017, 07:23:26 PM »
how many people booked JFK-DUS-txl-tlv for sukkos
+1 you think theres a chance they'll rebook if they cancel? someone said yesterday they were even rebooking on elal nonstop! was there any succos deals for the air Canada glitch that dan posted a few weeks ago? was it cheaper then the air berlin deal? which was 472 leaving after yom kippur and coming back right after? just curious to know if I missed out or maybe even lost out if they cancel and refund instead of rebook.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #150 on: September 18, 2017, 07:25:13 PM »
+1 you think theres a chance they'll rebook if they cancel? someone said yesterday they were even rebooking on elal nonstop! was there any succos deals for the air Canada glitch that dan posted a few weeks ago? was it cheaper then the air berlin deal? which was 472 leaving after yom kippur and coming back right after? just curious to know if I missed out or maybe even lost out if they cancel and refund instead of rebook.
The AC glitch didnt work for Succos IIRC.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #151 on: September 18, 2017, 09:48:04 PM »
many of us bought non-flex tix after the 15th, so officially they will offer a refund if cancelled. whats the science in switching sales to "flex-only" now?  either way, tickets sold today have the same rules as those sold anytime after the 15th?

It's the fact that they don't have to offer the refund yet, since they didn't officially cancel the flight. You have a hard time claiming insurance or a refund when the flight isn't officially cancelled. The Flex route has been a indicator that Air Berlin will be cancelling the route, you can run a few checks and find that has been the case with how the blogs and media surmised that Sept 25th was the date many routes were ending, even before the official announcement. When people called (myself included) the rep insisted the flight was still operating in October, and even if it was cancelled, they would be rebooked on another airline. Obviously that turned out to be a false statement, but the flex fare only has been correct every time.

It doesn't seem like LH is taking over their long haul routes, so I wouldn't bank on them picking up the bookings. There's a reason they waited until the bids were in on 9/15 before sending out the mass cancellation emails. The bids likely didn't include taking on the bookings, which would be a liability on the books. I know I wouldn't take it on, unless I was forced to as a condition of the bidding process.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #152 on: September 20, 2017, 11:00:38 AM »
So airberlin tickets canceled or not.
On the website it doesn’t shows canceled and there was no cancellation email.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #153 on: September 20, 2017, 11:32:08 AM »
So airberlin tickets canceled or not.
On the website it doesn’t shows canceled and there was no cancellation email.
Depends on dates on routes, so far.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #154 on: September 24, 2017, 02:21:52 AM »
dont know if this will help for succos flights...  but some hope 4 future bookings, maybe

https://uk.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/lufthansa-offering-to-pay-200-million-euros-for-air-berlin--bams-514459

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #155 on: September 24, 2017, 12:57:45 PM »
dont know if this will help for succos flights...  but some hope 4 future bookings, maybe

https://uk.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/lufthansa-offering-to-pay-200-million-euros-for-air-berlin--bams-514459

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BamS also said its sources had said next week Air Berlin would have to return planes used on its long haul routes to two companies it leases aircraft from
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #156 on: September 25, 2017, 12:41:45 AM »
If I ditched the way there JFK dus and txl tlv would I still be able to get the way back tlv dus txl JFK?or once I miss the way there I would lose the way back? I might need to go earlier then expected and Would be booking a one way one ua points ? Do you know if this would be a problem? Thank you

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #157 on: September 25, 2017, 12:47:45 AM »
If I ditched the way there JFK dus and txl tlv would I still be able to get the way back tlv dus txl JFK?or once I miss the way there I would lose the way back? I might need to go earlier then expected and Would be booking a one way one ua points ? Do you know if this would be a problem? Thank you
If you skip any leg of a trip, the entire trip will get cancelled.

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Re: Air Berlin to NYC-TLV $467 (Cancelled flights)
« Reply #158 on: September 25, 2017, 02:28:58 AM »
If you skip any leg of a trip, the entire trip will get cancelled.

call AB, they may let u change the flight to an earlier date, they offered that option when they cancelled jfk-txl
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