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Author Topic: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?  (Read 86413 times)

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2017, 03:56:33 PM »
I think he should communicate with Dan, he will probably get every single detail from him, he will write the entire story in a DDMS posts of course with a request for comment from the airline, then we'll get to see exactly what happened

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2017, 03:57:48 PM »
I think he should communicate with Dan, he will probably get every single detail from him, he will write the entire story in a DDMS posts of course with a request for comment from the airline, then we'll get to see exactly what happened
Shouldn't be too hard to tell if it's a separate PNR.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2017, 04:15:04 PM »
Shouldn't be too hard to tell if it's a separate PNR.
Exactly. It will also make a difference regarding complaining to the DOT etc'. If it is a separate PNR than the DOT has nothing to do here.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2017, 04:19:31 PM »
Exactly. It will also make a difference regarding complaining to the DOT etc'. If it is a separate PNR than the DOT has nothing to do here.
True.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2017, 04:23:08 PM »
I am really not sure I got the ticket through the travel agent.
 
For the Miami to Madrid flight it says:
Confirmation# American Airlines ECWD** or Iberia K27**
Flight # American Airlines  AA8638
Operated by: Iberia flight # 6124

For the Madrid to Tel Aviv flight the flight they were bumped from says
Confirmation# Iberia K27** or Iberia 26VT**
Flight# Iberia Flight # 3316

Just noticed this regarding second leg. Not common to have two confirmation numbers from the same airline. This seems to indicate there might have been two separate tickets. I'm sure if you send @Dan all your documentation he will get the story straight. I suspect that some blame might need to be shifted to the travel agent.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2017, 01:08:49 PM by Something Fishy »
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2017, 04:30:24 PM »
Just noticed this regarding second leg. Not common to have two confirmation numbers from the same airline. This seems to indicate there might have been two separate tickets. I'm sure if you send @Dan all your documentation he will get the story straight. I suspect that some blame might need to be shifted to the travel agent.
One of the 2 numbers is common to both flights but is only 5 characters
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2017, 04:39:06 PM »
One of the 2 numbers is common to both flights but is only 5 characters

I missed the 5 character part.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2017, 04:44:00 PM »
I smell a DDMS post coming, educating people about the risks of gaming the system by getting two separate tickets. How to make sure connection goes smoothly, check-in procedures, etc. etc. and when to avoid (when sending kids alone connecting in a country where they don't speak the language).
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2017, 04:54:02 PM »
I'm on IB right now JFK-MAD. My tickets were JFK-MAD-BUD and MAD-TLV. Im skipping BUD portion and connecting to TLV instead. DP: IB checked my bags to MAD only. They didnt issue me a Boarding Pass for BUD either. They also required me to show return booking even though i was continuing on to TLV. Will report back on how transfer goes in MAD. Have to collect bags and recheck to TLV.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2017, 05:25:48 PM »
One of the 2 numbers is common to both flights but is only 5 characters
I missed the 5 character part.

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I codeshares booked in 1A show a 5 alphanumeric code for IB

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2017, 01:07:05 AM »
Don't see any email.
Please confirm that you received my e-mail.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2017, 01:12:05 AM »
Not sure what the debate here is. From the OPs post with the PNRs it shows both segments with the same IB 5 character PNR. So both flights were on the same PNR.

(it's still possible though that they were 2 different tkts)
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2017, 01:21:44 AM »
I codeshares booked in 1A show a 5 alphanumeric code for IB
I always get 5 alphanumeric PNRs in 1A for IB even not code share. Not sure what it is for since IB actually uses 1A.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2017, 02:23:35 AM »
I'm on IB right now JFK-MAD. My tickets were JFK-MAD-BUD and MAD-TLV. Im skipping BUD portion and connecting to TLV instead. DP: IB checked my bags to MAD only. They didnt issue me a Boarding Pass for BUD either. They also required me to show return booking even though i was continuing on to TLV. Will report back on how transfer goes in MAD. Have to collect bags and recheck to TLV.
Transfer is a bit of a PITA need to go from T4S to T4 to collect and recheck luggage then back to T4S to check in. I can see how teenagers can get messed up here very easily.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2017, 01:19:34 PM »
Any update from Dan?
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2017, 01:57:21 PM »
I just spoke to my travel agent to get some clarity.  She said that the flight was an American Airlines flight and that it was operated by Iberia.  She said it was a married flight and their excuse of us not checking in early is nonsense because we checked in from Miami.  She also said that they did not give us a boarding pass for the Madrid to TLV flight because they knew that they overbooked.

I still did not hear back from Dan.  Hoping he got my e-mail.

Thanks for all the help! 

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2017, 02:09:50 PM »
Interesting. You should've insisted in Miami that you want the boarding pass for the second leg as that is standard procedure.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2017, 02:13:41 PM »
Interesting. You should've insisted in Miami that you want the boarding pass for the second leg as that is standard procedure.
Boarding pass without a seat assignment?
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2017, 02:44:23 PM »
Anyone do the research on how do EU vs IL vs US invol denied boarding compare for which compensation to seek?
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2017, 02:48:29 PM »
Anyone do the research on how do EU vs IL vs US invol denied boarding compare for which compensation to seek?
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