Topic Wiki

I'm going to try to make an index of the questions and answers here. I'm thinking of writing a short summary of the question/topic then writing the reply number, date, author (in case someone deletes a post it should still be findable). And writing locations of relevant replies on that question.

Question 1- Why did Hashem want to create the world? (Reply #1, 8/29/17, Starstruck)

See reply #78 8/31/17 churnbabychurn. #26 8/30/17 chbochur. #53 8/30/17 starstruck. #65 8/30/17 chbochur.

Question 2 - Why does beis din have to give punishments, can't Hashem give it? (#77 8/31/17 starstruck)

See reply #99 9/01/17 zh Cohen. #147 9/06/17 starstruck.

Question 3 - Why isn't there a sefeika d'yoma by Yom Kippur (but by Sukkos there is)? (#88 9/01/17 Dan)

See pages 7,8,9,10

Question 4 - Why is it נוח לו לאדם שלא נברא יותר משנברא if the whole purpose of the world is to be meitiv? ( #112 9/01/17 chbochur)

See #146 9/05/17 aygart and quoted conversations.


Author Topic: Jewish Philosophy  (Read 25438 times)

Offline MeirS

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 2552
  • Total likes: 193
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #120 on: September 01, 2017, 03:39:51 PM »


Lo Adu Rosh...except in year 2.
Anyone else ever bothered that our calendar can't go back to year 2?

FTFY. Year 1 only had 5 days and Adam was created on the 1st day of year 2.

Also, it wasn't just then. It probably happened many times until Hilel established the calendar.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67598
  • Total likes: 16909
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #121 on: September 01, 2017, 03:45:53 PM »

FTFY. Year 1 only had 5 days and Adam was created on the 1st day of year 2.
So Adam was created on the first of Tishrei in Year 2 and it's not counted as Year 1?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline good sam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 3340
  • Total likes: 558
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 10
    • View Profile
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #122 on: September 01, 2017, 04:43:38 PM »
So Adam was created on the first of Tishrei in Year 2 and it's not counted as Year 1?
In our calendar it is! Anyway, we all know the first five days took billions of years.
If you don't care why would you comment?
HT: DMYD

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67598
  • Total likes: 16909
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #123 on: September 01, 2017, 04:44:29 PM »
Anyway, we all know the first five days took billions of years.
Huh?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17395
  • Total likes: 14333
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #124 on: September 01, 2017, 05:34:30 PM »

FTFY. Year 1 only had 5 days and Adam was created on the 1st day of year 2.

Also, it wasn't just then. It probably happened many times until Hilel established the calendar.

Lo ADU Rosh was long before we had a set calendar.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline MeirS

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 2552
  • Total likes: 193
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #125 on: September 01, 2017, 05:40:37 PM »
So Adam was created on the first of Tishrei in Year 2 and it's not counted as Year 1?
Yup. Year one is referred to in seforim as שנת התוהו.
The world was created on 25 Elul of year 1, not year 0.

Offline good sam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 3340
  • Total likes: 558
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 10
    • View Profile
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #126 on: September 01, 2017, 05:49:37 PM »
Huh?
You never heard that response to evolution?
If you don't care why would you comment?
HT: DMYD

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67598
  • Total likes: 16909
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #127 on: September 01, 2017, 05:59:11 PM »
You never heard that response to evolution?
I've heard why it as an invalid response, yes.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline good sam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 3340
  • Total likes: 558
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 10
    • View Profile
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #128 on: September 01, 2017, 06:46:21 PM »
I've heard why it as an invalid response, yes.
So why the "huh"?
If you don't care why would you comment?
HT: DMYD

Offline zh cohen

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 1501
  • Total likes: 1675
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: 412
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #129 on: September 01, 2017, 06:48:17 PM »

Lo ADU Rosh was long before we had a set calendar.

Source?

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17395
  • Total likes: 14333
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #130 on: September 02, 2017, 09:13:58 PM »
Source?
Gemara Rosh Hashanah that when they did al pi reiya they manipulated to ensure it
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline churnbabychurn

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 7355
  • Total likes: 301
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #131 on: September 02, 2017, 09:36:14 PM »
Gemara Rosh Hashanah that when they did al pi reiya they manipulated to ensure it
Succah נג/ד

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17395
  • Total likes: 14333
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #132 on: September 02, 2017, 09:37:47 PM »
Succah נג/ד
I remember a specific one in RH but may be confused. Maybe both.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline churnbabychurn

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 7355
  • Total likes: 301
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #133 on: September 02, 2017, 09:53:40 PM »
What did they do if they found out they made YK the wrong day?
Make-up fast?
If made erroneously in a legitimate way it's fine.
Chazal specifically learn from the posuk אתם אפילו טעות
« Last Edit: September 02, 2017, 10:02:34 PM by churnbabychurn »

Offline churnbabychurn

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 7355
  • Total likes: 301
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #134 on: September 02, 2017, 10:01:11 PM »
I remember a specific one in RH but may be confused. Maybe both.
Yeah..

Offline churnbabychurn

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 7355
  • Total likes: 301
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #135 on: September 02, 2017, 10:04:00 PM »
It all has to do with how the sanhedrin manipulated it. There was no sanhedrin then and also none of the reasons applied.
Adam didn't keep yomtov?

Offline MeirS

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 2552
  • Total likes: 193
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #136 on: September 02, 2017, 10:04:35 PM »

Lo ADU Rosh was long before we had a set calendar.
And before that?

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17395
  • Total likes: 14333
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #137 on: September 02, 2017, 10:06:13 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline churnbabychurn

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 7355
  • Total likes: 301
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #138 on: September 02, 2017, 10:06:48 PM »
Btw, I happen to be looking for a Jewish observer article about the fight over moled zokein between the Rasag and EY...

Any leads?
Eta looks like they are all here.. now to find it http://agudathisrael.org/?s=Jewish+observer
« Last Edit: September 02, 2017, 10:10:10 PM by churnbabychurn »

Offline MeirS

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 2552
  • Total likes: 193
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Jewish Philosophy
« Reply #139 on: September 02, 2017, 10:09:04 PM »
Before what
Before they started manipulating the calendar.