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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2017, 09:49:35 AM »
Obviously everything can be presented in a biased way.
Meanwhile, like I stated before I don't really think the film was so informative one way or another.

I'd love to hear feedback from someone outside of the community who doesn't really know of what goes on and see what they walked away with. 


Wasn't much substance in the film.

Almost seemed like the trailer to the actual film.


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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2017, 10:01:33 AM »
How about an unbiased opinion?  :)
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #77 on: October 25, 2017, 10:21:30 AM »
How about an unbiased opinion? :)
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asking for an unbiased opinion is similar to asking for an unbiased opinion on the Rodney King or Treyvon Martin deaths, cases, causes, and trial results. Different people will have a different perspective. As in DDF language, "YMMV".
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« Reply #78 on: October 25, 2017, 11:43:29 AM »
How about an unbiased opinion?  :)
Anyone have a link? Do I need NF?

Don't know how to make that happen, but if you really want to watch it pm me and I'll get you access.
There's a lot to say about the movie, a lot more than just pro or against torah. I'm still processing and don't have a fully formulated judgment.
Though I will say its heart wrenching and painful, on several fronts.

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #79 on: October 25, 2017, 03:01:21 PM »
How could it not be?

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Is there any doubt that if I made a movie about nazis that it would be biased and skewed? Watch the video of her talking about the extermination of chasidim, how she looks amused about how it was because they were so "loud and proud."

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #80 on: October 25, 2017, 07:51:33 PM »
How could it not be?

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Is there any doubt that if I made a movie about nazis that it would be biased and skewed? Watch the video of her talking about the extermination of chasidim, how she looks amused about how it was because they were so "loud and proud."

So if you're both claiming her biases made her skew facts or details, please provide examples. 

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #81 on: October 25, 2017, 07:54:09 PM »
So if you're both claiming her biases made her skew facts or details, please provide examples.
There is no real way of know for certain one way or the other, but considering the stupidity of her holocaust comment her interpretation of things is very suspect.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2017, 04:27:35 AM »
I agree with a lot that is said about Chasidim but I feel like the film messed up the message entirely.

Mother changes her life and WILL change the kids life regardless of her promises, she should lose the kids I dont feel sorry for that. The kids that went off the D, were not ostracized by their family, in fact the father was there for him when he had issues. The backgrounds of the scenes always show kids laughing/happy mothers look busy but not overwhelmed. I see this as a terrible hit job on Chasidim.

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2017, 07:58:32 AM »
I agree with a lot that is said about Chasidim but I feel like the film messed up the message entirely.

Mother changes her life and WILL change the kids life regardless of her promises, she should lose the kids I dont feel sorry for that. The kids that went off the D, were not ostracized by their family, in fact the father was there for him when he had issues. The backgrounds of the scenes always show kids laughing/happy mothers look busy but not overwhelmed. I see this as a terrible hit job on Chasidim.
Just out of curiosity, do you outright believe a father or mother who become not religious deserve to lose their relationship with their children?
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2017, 08:29:54 AM »
Just out of curiosity, do you outright believe a father or mother who become not religious deserve to lose their relationship with their children?

I think it is heartbreaking!! But at the end of the day they make a pact when they decide to have kids that this is the way they will be raised. If one of the parents decides to change then they lose out. If it is both parents then it becomes murkier.

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2017, 08:30:52 AM »
Just out of curiosity, do you outright believe a father or mother who become not religious deserve to lose their relationship with their children?
And even if you do, you can still feel their pain, they're not mutually exclusive.

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #86 on: October 26, 2017, 08:33:30 AM »
I think it is heartbreaking!! But at the end of the day they make a pact when they decide to have kids that this is the way they will be raised. If one of the parents decides to change then they lose out. If it is both parents then it becomes murkier.
We're talking about human beings here. It seems so crazy to me that you can think in such black and white terms.



Obviously ideally there is respect and compromise to whatever extent but that goes both ways.

As long as a parent is loving, safe and stable there shouldn't be any black and white decisions that that parents loses the right to their children IMHO.
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2017, 08:34:32 AM »
I think it is heartbreaking!! But at the end of the day they make a pact when they decide to have kids that this is the way they will be raised. If one of the parents decides to change then they lose out. If it is both parents then it becomes murkier.
huh? what does your last line mean?
and of the father's actually abusive you still thunk they are better off with him

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #88 on: October 26, 2017, 08:40:08 AM »
We're talking about human beings here. It seems so crazy to me that you can think in such black and white terms.



Obviously ideally there is respect and compromise to whatever extent but that goes both ways.

As long as a parent is loving, safe and stable there shouldn't be any black and white decisions that that parents loses the right to their children IMHO.

How is it a stable life to see your mother eating cheeseburgers and your father learning gemara?? I dont understand what you think is stable?

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #89 on: October 26, 2017, 08:42:04 AM »
huh? what does your last line mean?
and of the father's actually abusive you still thunk they are better off with him

I did not say that! I do not believe every lady who went off the derech is because of abusive husbands, if the husband was abusive then he should lose the kids as well.