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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 07:06:32 PM »
Is this movie pro or against the Torah?
Definitly not pro. Why dont you watch it and decide for yourself?

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 07:49:17 PM »
Definitly not pro. Why dont you watch it and decide for yourself?
Don't have Netflix...maybe would if on you tube (or telegram? ;) )
 But Stam curious for now...

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2017, 07:54:00 PM »

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2017, 07:55:39 PM »
Don't have Netflix...maybe would if on you tube (or telegram? ;) )
 But Stam curious for now...
Don't know how to make that happen, but if you really want to watch it pm me and I'll get you access.
There's a lot to say about the movie, a lot more than just pro or against torah. I'm still processing and don't have a fully formulated judgment.
Though I will say its heart wrenching and painful, on several fronts.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2017, 07:57:32 PM »
There's been talk of victim blaming recently, how about this, from the movie's producer:

https://twitter.com/OJPAC/status/921918788035112960
Outrageous.
Fwiw, She did appoligize and clarify that she meant since chassidim dont change their dress they were more easily identified as jews and couldn't hide.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2017, 07:58:52 PM »
There's been talk of victim blaming recently, how about this, from the movie's producer:

https://twitter.com/OJPAC/status/921918788035112960

That's a whole new level of cluelessness. The Nazis didn't search for Jews by their Payos.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2017, 08:00:02 PM »
Outrageous.
Fwiw, She did appoligize and clarify that she meant since chassidim dont change their dress they were more easily identified as jews and couldn't hide.
And she finished the apology saying she applauds anyone who proudly lives their truth, when her movie makes no attempt to even slightly show Chassidim living their truth

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2017, 08:01:33 PM »
Is this movie pro or against the Torah?

@heimishcon live tweeted his watching of it.

https://twitter.com/HeimishCon/status/922129730920419328

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2017, 10:22:57 PM »
There's been talk of victim blaming recently, how about this, from the movie's producer:

https://twitter.com/OJPAC/status/921918788035112960
as stupid and wrong her statement is I don't think it is helpful at all to respond to this documentary by going after ppl involved

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2017, 10:28:38 PM »
That's a whole new level of cluelessness. The Nazis didn't search for Jews by their Payos.
I just re-listend, her comments are more clueless than I original thought.  She should really get a clue about the subjects featured in a film she's producing.

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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2017, 10:29:53 PM »
as stupid and wrong her statement is I don't think it is helpful at all to respond to this documentary by going after ppl involved
True.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2017, 10:32:42 PM »
I just re-listend, her comments are more clueless than I original thought.  She should really get a clue about the subjects featured in a film she's producing.
Click through to the twitter thread to see one of the 'stars' attempting to back her up.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2017, 10:36:59 PM »
as stupid and wrong her statement is I don't think it is helpful at all to respond to this documentary by going after ppl involved
It's useful to know if the filmmaker has an anti-chassidic bias because there are (i assume) claims made in the film which are supported only by testimony, the accuracy of which require the viewer's trust. From that clip it appears she does have such a bias.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2017, 10:40:14 PM »
It's useful to know if the filmmaker has an anti-chassidic bias because there are (i assume) claims made in the film which are supported only by testimony, the accuracy of which require the viewer's trust. From that clip it appears she does have such a bias.
don't think there's any doubt that there was anti chassidic bias by the producers but there is also.no doubt that these storylines have and ate happening over and over again  regardless if the specifics of these individual stories are true.
let's look inward and see what we can fix as oppose to attacking outward which helps no one

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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2017, 10:41:31 PM »
Click through to the twitter thread to see one of the 'stars' attempting to back her up.
Ive seen it on fb. And that's why I agree with @elit above. Attacking the people involved in the film comes off as insecure and tone def to "their" pain and suffering- we'll do anything to discredit the message or messenger in order to not face the dark reality "they" brought to light.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2017, 07:57:41 AM »
don't think there's any doubt that there was anti chassidic bias by the producers but there is also.no doubt that these storylines have and ate happening over and over again  regardless if the specifics of these individual stories are true.
let's look inward and see what we can fix as oppose to attacking outward which helps no one

I watched the film and although it was very sad there was nothing shocking or controversial.  In short, for chasidim who leave the fold there's a very high price to pay - and the community makes sure of that.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2017, 08:21:17 AM »
I watched the film and although it was very sad there was nothing shocking or controversial.  In short, for chasidim who leave the fold there's a very high price to pay - and the community makes sure of that.
And that's something to be proud of?
What about their reasons for wanting to leave the fold? Is that not shocking?, or are we so accustomed to hearing how people were abused and no one did anything that it's nit shocking?
you feel comfortable with the movies portrayal of how the chasidish community deals with people who have difficult questions?

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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 08:24:58 AM »
And she finished the apology saying she applauds anyone who proudly lives their truth, when her movie makes no attempt to even slightly show Chassidim living their truth

It does attempt to show a few specific human being trying to live their truth. That idea is there.

But yes, this movie is NOT a movie about Chassidim and how they live exactly.
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