Very poor, frustrating transaction with a DDFer (no loss of money).

[noturbizniss]

I was not cheated, however i did sell over 60 att offers to a ddfer. they had me pay 6 different brand new accounts across multiple days. 2 of the accounts ended up getting cancelled for fraud or something and one got refunded to my cards (10). the other one (15 refunds) took more fighting by the ddfer. Everything was eventually refunded and offers clawed back. I was able to resell the offers, so I luckily did not lose out on the money.
While i should have clearly decided to sell elsewhere as something very shady was happening, i did not. I am sorely tempted to post the ddfer publicly to warn others, however i did not actually lose anything other than some time and frustration.
What say yall? If consensus is that i should say nothign and even take down the OP i will do so.

[username]

There are the risks. I'm glad you didnt loose any $$.

Do you think that the DDFer really knew that the accounts would be closed down?
Keep the post up
Disclaimer: It was not me.

[farmbochur]

Not sure I understand what the buyer did that was wrong. Isn't there some level of assumed risk in selling these offers. Especially if you're selling 60 of them. Do you find it surprising that his accounts were flagged for fraud after you submitted 60 payments over the course of a couple days?

[noturbizniss]

The buyer took the risk. Let's say the issue happened after the offer expired. Then I shouldn't have to lose my money.

[henche]

It was me.  And I told you from the get go that might happen,  and e negotiated that into the pricing. 

[mochjas]

Why should the buyer be the one taking all the risk? Are you not making $ off this as well?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Why should the buyer be the one taking all the risk? Are you not making $ off this as well?

noturbizniss held up his side of the deal. This is 100% the buyers problem!!!

[AJK]

I'm also not sure what the buyer did.

All he did was have you pay multiple accounts and ATT didn't like that apparently, or some part of it.

What exactly are you complaining about vis a vis the buyer?

[David Smith]

noturbizniss held up his side of the deal. This is 100% the buyers problem!!!

The transaction ended up getting reversed. This isn't like a mileage sale where the ticket gets audited. The question is whether the buyer should've been required to pay for them and find someone else to resell them to.

[David Smith]

I'm also not sure what the buyer did.

All he did was have you pay multiple accounts and ATT didn't like that apparently, or some part of it.

What exactly are you complaining about vis a vis the buyer?

It sounds like he didn't mind the refunds, just the manner which they happened...

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The question is whether the buyer should've been required to pay for them and find someone else to resell them to.

No question in my mind.

[TimT]

  I am sorely tempted to post the ddfer publicly to warn others,

don't

[David Smith]

don't

+1

He didn't do anything to you. The transaction ended up being unpleasant for both of you, due to AT&T. Publicizing his name is ridiculous, IMO (unless you see he's still buying).

[noturbizniss]

It was me.  And I told you from the get go that might happen,  and e negotiated that into the pricing.

don't

Impossible

[yuneeq]

Impossible

I have a hard time taking Henche seriously, even after you confirm it.

[noturbizniss]

Henche is the absolute worst at everything. Especially doing things. And reading. Also she's poor at it.

[henche]

Henche is the absolute worst at everything. Especially doing things. And reading. Also she's poor at it.

Whatever, you messed up a simple transaction.

[noturbizniss]

Whatever, you messed up a simple transaction.

Ur loss. I'm not sending back any money.

[henche]

I don't need your blood money

[mgarfin]

I was not cheated, however i did sell over 60 att offers to a ddfer. they had me pay 6 different brand new accounts across multiple days. 2 of the accounts ended up getting cancelled for fraud or something and one got refunded to my cards (10). the other one (15 refunds) took more fighting by the ddfer. Everything was eventually refunded and offers clawed back. I was able to resell the offers, so I luckily did not lose out on the money.
While i should have clearly decided to sell elsewhere as something very shady was happening, i did not. I am sorely tempted to post the ddfer publicly to warn others, however i did not actually lose anything other than some time and frustration.
What say yall? If consensus is that i should say nothign and even take down the OP i will do so.

When you sold 60 offers to one guy. You should have questioned if it will all go to one account and if so it's quite obvious it will get flagged. If he told you it's going to multiple accounts, for that part he did nothing wrong. From there treat it as 60 sales were some went wrong. You need to determine if the buyer had reason to believe it will go wrong.
Also worth calculating if selling to 60 different ppl would have had a better result, I'm not convinced.