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Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« on: December 06, 2017, 01:07:13 PM »
I'm asking this question sincerely.
What do we gain by having Trump acknowledge Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

It's not that I don't see some of the benefits.  I'm just wondering if the cons ouweigh the pros.

Hoping to hear some insight into this topic.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 01:20:46 PM »
How does this help the peace process?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 01:40:12 PM »
Ben Shapiro had interesting take on it - terrorism is committed out of hope not fear; once they realize that they arnt getting it will lessen.

Obviously, this is not the reason that he is doing it and also not the main benefit...
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 01:41:23 PM »
I'm asking this question sincerely.
What do we gain by having Trump acknowledge Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

It's not that I don't see some of the benefits.  I'm just wondering if the cons ouweigh the pros.

Hoping to hear some insight into this topic.
Why have people been demanding it for decades ?

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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 01:42:07 PM »
Ben Shapiro had interesting take on it - terrorism is committed out of hope not fear; once they realize that they arnt getting it will lessen.

Obviously, this is not the reason that he is doing it and also not the main benefit...
Interesting thought
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 01:42:55 PM »
Why have people been demanding it for decades ?
I haven't. That's what I'm asking. Again, I have mixed feelings about it.  I just don't understand enough of the reasoning either way. 
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 02:36:28 PM »
How does this help the peace process?
Recognizing reality helps keep the expectations of both sides realistic. A false illusion that Jerusalem as the capitol is negotiable doesn't.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 02:40:17 PM »
Recognizing reality helps keep the expectations of both sides realistic. A false illusion that Jerusalem as the capitol is negotiable doesn't.
Reality it who’s mind?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 02:41:17 PM »
i just wonder if the fact that trump is doing it when the previous presidents didnt comes from gaiva ,stupidity ... or he truly does know something that clinton bush and obama didnt
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 02:42:30 PM »
Reality it who’s mind?
The fact is that there was never any chance of any Israeli negotiating on West Jerusalem. Feeding such a delusion did nothing to help advance peace.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 02:43:27 PM »
i just wonder if the fact that trump is doing it when the previous presidents didnt comes from gaiva ,stupidity ... or he truly does know something that clinton bush and obama didnt
Or a mix of the above. The first few are certain the last is questionable.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 02:47:26 PM »
i just wonder if the fact that trump is doing it when the previous presidents didnt comes from gaiva ,stupidity ... or he truly does know something that clinton bush and obama didnt
Or they all love the status quo while he doesn’t

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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 02:50:12 PM »
i just wonder if the fact that trump is doing it when the previous presidents didnt comes from gaiva ,stupidity ... or he truly does know something that clinton bush and obama didnt
Lets try and put our political views aside. Do you really think Trump is better qualified to make this decision?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 02:53:00 PM »
Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
and how about Re: Do we really need the UN unesco resolution old city and Hebron tomb to recognize as a palestine heritage ?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 02:57:11 PM »
Lets try and put our political views aside. Do you really think Trump is better qualified to make this decision?
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