Author Topic: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?  (Read 2762 times)

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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #150 on: December 07, 2017, 11:50:00 AM »
You believe that today?

Hamas and the PA say so explicitly.

He takes Jerusalem (not west) off the table by making it the capital. Then he says the sides need to decide the borders. Do you the disadvantage that puts the other side on?

He specifically says borders are to be decided. That is not taking it off the table, that is *literally* putting it on the table.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #151 on: December 07, 2017, 11:51:14 AM »
Will that help solve OPs question sooner ?
his question will be answered when there's peace in the middle east.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #152 on: December 07, 2017, 11:51:47 AM »
Now as @Yehuda57 and others have pointed out, Jerusalem is the conglomerate of East, West, Holy City, Temple Mount and more in which certain parts were clearly going to the Israel/PA. While others will keep being sticking points in every negotiations.
For some reason others will not answer this but you seem somewhat fair so I will ask you.  :)
Isn't the three holy sites Trump talked about in East Jerusalem?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #153 on: December 07, 2017, 11:53:17 AM »
For some reason others will not answer this but you seem somewhat fair so I will ask you.  :)
Isn't the three holy sites Trump talked about in East Jerusalem?
Indeed, and Tel Aviv is not despite the fact that he mentioned it in his speech.
Again, here are his words:

You know what the word indeed means, right?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #154 on: December 07, 2017, 11:53:52 AM »
Hamas and the PA say so explicitly.
The statement was the "world" and that is what I asked about. Stop twisting everything I ask.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #155 on: December 07, 2017, 11:54:53 AM »
You know what the word indeed means, right?
Yes but I didn't know which part of my question/statement it was referring to. Thank you for the answer.
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #156 on: December 07, 2017, 11:59:15 AM »
Either way, the peace process is a myth. I don't know how you can harm something which doesn't exist
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #157 on: December 07, 2017, 12:01:29 PM »
Either way, the peace process is a myth. I don't know how you can harm something which doesn't exist
So Trump is basically blowing smoke up everyone's you know what with his speech yesterday? His peace speech was all for show?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #158 on: December 07, 2017, 12:03:53 PM »
You believe that today?
If you follow the UN & various other world bodies youd notice that these countries backstab Israel all the time. (While totally ignoring real atrocities happening in their own countries or other places) So yes, even today

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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #159 on: December 07, 2017, 12:04:46 PM »
For some reason others will not answer this but you seem somewhat fair so I will ask you.  :)
Isn't the three holy sites Trump talked about in East Jerusalem?
I specifically singled out those 2 areas Old City and Temple Mount. The reason of course is although they technically are ( literally On the Border ) in the East, Israel isn't going to let the security of Judaism holiest site under the PA. ( Although they have let the Wakf run Temple Mount since 1967 )

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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #160 on: December 07, 2017, 12:06:20 PM »
So Trump is basically blowing smoke up everyone's you know what with his speech yesterday? His peace speech was all for show?
Have you ever known him to do anything else?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #161 on: December 07, 2017, 12:17:35 PM »
Have you ever known him to do anything else?
Lets end on that.  :)
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #162 on: December 07, 2017, 08:31:49 PM »
When they talk about a two state solution are they saying Jerusalem will be the capital of both states?
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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #163 on: December 07, 2017, 08:33:00 PM »
When they talk about a two state solution are they saying Jerusalem will be the capital of both states?
Borders aside, yes

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Re: Do we really need the US to recognize Jerusalem as the capital?
« Reply #164 on: December 07, 2017, 08:36:43 PM »
Borders aside, yes
Who came up with that idea?
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