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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #780 on: January 07, 2018, 06:20:19 PM »
Now, what other excuse is there for such misconduct other than antisemitism?
Well one other possibility is just plain old fashioned corruption, maybe they were bought off by the unions who were warring with Rubashkin?

Whatever the motivation was, this entire case stinks from beginning to end. Is there any argument about that? Or are we only arguing about the motives of the judge and prosecution?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #781 on: January 07, 2018, 06:22:50 PM »
I don't think that conservative judges are a good thing for us. Social issues that have no real life ramifications aside, you end up with Linda Reade, a Bush appointee who sentences strictly with no consideration for the story.
This had nothing to do with right/left, the prosecutor was a Dem, for years the local media didn't stop bashing Rubashkin and co and that led to the government doing what they did...

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #782 on: January 07, 2018, 06:25:36 PM »
This had nothing to do with right/left, the prosecutor was a Dem, for years the local media didn't stop bashing Rubashkin and co and that led to the government doing what they did...
I agree. But she is known for long and cruel sentences, and I'm sure that played a part in addition to what you mentioned. And that part was coming from a conservative perspective and bias

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #783 on: January 07, 2018, 06:26:29 PM »
Well one other possibility is just plain old fashioned corruption, maybe they were bought off by the unions who were warring with Rubashkin?

Whatever the motivation was, this entire case stinks from beginning to end. Is there any argument about that? Or are we only arguing about the motives of the judge and prosecution?
I think the unions are what got things rolling. Many of the allegations against Rubashkin quoted in the media come from them. Remember, Obama even brought up Rubashkin campaigning in Iowa. So IMHO it's definitely not all antisemitism. But once they destroyed him and his company, why continue fighting so dirty?

Yes, we all agree it stinks worse than Chatalet station. (where are my Brunoy alumni at?)
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #784 on: January 07, 2018, 06:34:09 PM »
Isnít this so-called anti-Semitic judge the one who reversed the decision and gave him bail? Wasnít her sentence with in federal guidelines?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #785 on: January 07, 2018, 07:23:36 PM »
Isnít this so-called anti-Semitic judge the one who reversed the decision and gave him bail? Wasnít her sentence with in federal guidelines?
1) Yes.
2) Read the above links and the briefs written in support of Rubashkin.
A) Even if technically within the guidelines, they went against the spirit of the guidelines, as stated by the very people who wrote them and common sense. Using the "guidelines" as cover is disingenuous at best.
B) The charges were inflated artificially in numerous ways purely to game the guidelines and get the inhumane sentence. Again, read the links above to see how. An honest judge would see through that.
C) She gave a longer sentence than even the prosecution asked for, which I believe was a couple of years beyond the guidelines. She has done the same for many other defendants.

Again, I personally don't know that there is evidence *she* is an anti semite. There is plenty of evidence she is a terrible judge.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #786 on: January 11, 2018, 04:07:51 PM »
When somebody thanks you for a favor you've done, respond "my pleasure", not "no problem".

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #788 on: February 01, 2018, 10:00:45 AM »

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #789 on: February 01, 2018, 10:02:43 AM »
I'll tell you later

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #790 on: February 01, 2018, 10:06:26 AM »
you mean that in a good way.. I hope

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #791 on: February 01, 2018, 10:10:32 AM »
you mean that in a good way.. I hope
Oh no.
I'll tell you later

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #792 on: February 01, 2018, 10:12:21 AM »
Oh no.

There are much greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on. Try to use the love you have for yourself and for other jews.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #793 on: February 01, 2018, 10:14:10 AM »
There are much greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on. Try to use the love you have for yourself and for other jews.

I've kept my mouth shut on this whole thread, but can we please acknowledge that this is a little silly, and retire the "greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on" argument for a while.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #794 on: February 01, 2018, 10:14:41 AM »


There are much greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on. Try to use the love you have for yourself and for other jews.

Really? This one is quite terrible, and if other Atrocities are posted here, I'll possibly respond, but I'm not running after them
I'll tell you later