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Do you think heimishe magazines should show pictures of tzniusdig women?

Sure! Why not?
No way
Only of Jewish women

Author Topic: Women in Jewish magazines  (Read 6212 times)

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2017, 11:20:35 PM »
Sounds better than this:

That is definitely overboard but is also an extreme lack of creativity on the designer's part.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2017, 11:22:45 PM »
The big issue will be that there is no way these publications could make anyone happy with defining tznius.
Indeed, though some of the examples in the article are beyond ridiculous (women's shopping spree for example).

Much of tznius is subjective. Anyone who thinks it is a bunch of lines missed the boat.

The hardest thing is to get people to understand and realize that. Especially in today's day and age, where people are looking for brief, instant answers, rather than actually immersing oneself in the topic and understand it in a way that one actually gets their own sense of tznius.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2017, 11:26:59 PM »
I understand it is an easy way out but I am asking is that the real reason they have no pictures of girls/women.
Some of the more chassidish it is ideological. That has at this point spilled over into other communities as well. I think some is not having the backbone or the interest in standing up to those who go overboard but some is also to avoid what would become constant haggling over standards.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2017, 11:28:55 PM »
Indeed, though some of the examples in the article are beyond ridiculous (women's shopping spree for example).
That was likely more of a bad attempt at humor than anything else. They could have easily had a picture without the men there which would have looked fine.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2017, 11:29:40 PM »
Some of the more chassidish it is ideological. That has at this point spilled over into other communities as well. I think some is not having the backbone or the interest in standing up to those who go overboard but some is also to avoid what would become constant haggling over standards.
How do you think this effects boys views of girls/women with never seeing them in publications?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2017, 11:31:37 PM »
How do you think this effects boys views of girls/women with never seeing them in publications?
Dunno. How do you think it would?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2017, 11:34:40 PM »
Dunno. How do you think it would?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2017, 11:38:20 PM »
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2017, 11:40:59 PM »
why not?
Think hard and you might figure it out.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2017, 11:47:15 PM »
I understand it is an easy way out but I am asking is that the real reason they have no pictures of girls/women.
Because men cant be trusted to look at women and not get "thoughts".
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2017, 11:49:27 PM »
How do you think this effects boys views of girls/women with never seeing them in publications?
Many of us here grew up that way. Never had a negative effect. I had sisters, mother, aunts, relatives, neighbors etc. & not showing them in publications did not make me respect them any less.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2017, 11:53:29 PM »
Sounds better than this:

That was an ad in a local Monsey circular. I also thought it looked a bit weird, but it was in a frum, chassidish publication, so I understood, sort of. But why is the author of the article going around and canvassing the globe for such examples? Can't she understand that some communities are more frum than the others, and have their own guidelines?

Why not?
Speak to appropriate LORs and make a known guideline.

Mishpacha and Ami cater to a very wide spectrum of people, from Mizrachi to Satmar. Who should their Rabbis be?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2017, 11:55:00 PM »
Do they not seek guidance when discussing any topics or when questions arise? Who do they turn to?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2017, 11:55:42 PM »
Many of us here grew up that way. Never had a negative effect. I had sisters, mother, aunts, relatives, neighbors etc. & not showing them in publications did not make me respect them any less.
Does girls growing up playing with Barbie dolls instead of erector sets make them less likely to grow up wanting to be engineers? There are unintended consequence to everything thing we do. If you think this doesn't affect girls and boys you are fooling yourself.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2017, 11:56:27 PM »
Mishpacha and Ami cater to a very wide spectrum of people, from Mizrachi to Satmar. Who should their Rabbis be?
And don't answer that they should speak to their own because that can preclude them from selling to certain communities with different standards.
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