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Do you think heimishe magazines should show pictures of tzniusdig women?

Sure! Why not?
No way
Only of Jewish women

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2017, 12:23:43 AM »
Been happening far worse elsewhere.
Are you sure it is far worse? One of the worse child abuse scandals we had involved religion.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2017, 12:25:27 AM »
Are you sure it is far worse? One of the worse child abuse scandals we had involved religion.
I didn’t realize this thread was about child abuse. My apologies

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #47 on: December 31, 2017, 12:31:36 AM »
I didn’t realize this thread was about child abuse. My apologies
You brought in the meto movement.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #48 on: December 31, 2017, 12:34:04 AM »
You brought in the meto movement.
Yes. Where women are letting the world know how they’ve been treated.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2017, 12:36:54 AM »
Yes. Where women are letting the world know how they’ve been treated.
Wasn't the real problem the power the men had over the women? Are you trying to prove my point for me?  :)
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2017, 12:41:01 AM »
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sex·ist
adjective
adjective: sexist
1. relating to or characterized by prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

Why might anyone (who isn't himself prejudiced) rush to conclude that not allowing pictures of women in publications is done because of "prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination"?

I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #51 on: December 31, 2017, 12:41:28 AM »
Wasn't the real problem the power the men had over the women? Are you trying to prove my point for me?  :)
No. just proves my point that having photos of women doesn’t cause men to respect women any more than not showing photos. If one is a gentleman he’ll respect them regardless.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #52 on: December 31, 2017, 12:46:55 AM »
No. just proves my point that having photos of women doesn’t cause men to respect women any more than not showing photos. If one is a gentleman he’ll respect them regardless.
1 - You disagreeing the real problem is men having power over women (meto scandal)?
2 - I said it will affect you. You for some reason keep bringing up respect. Some might think it is a guilt complex.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #53 on: December 31, 2017, 12:47:13 AM »
Are you sure it is far worse? One of the worse child abuse scandals we had involved religion.
They did not have the women removed from their publications. We are not discussing religion in general but rather this specific policy. Why are you bringing in a case where they did not have this policy?
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2017, 12:48:33 AM »
Why might anyone (who isn't himself prejudiced) rush to conclude that not allowing pictures of women in publications is done because of "prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination"?
Probably some saying about a duck.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2017, 12:49:16 AM »
Does girls growing up playing with Barbie dolls instead of erector sets make them less likely to grow up wanting to be engineers? There are unintended consequence to everything thing we do. If you think this doesn't affect girls and boys you are fooling yourself.
Who says anyone wants their daughters to be engineers?!
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2017, 12:51:34 AM »
Probably some saying about a duck.
Or some major cultural differences. (unless it's just plain old prejudice towards people that see things differently).
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #57 on: December 31, 2017, 12:52:38 AM »
Probably some saying about a duck.
Unless the ugly duckling is a beautiful swan.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #58 on: December 31, 2017, 12:56:16 AM »
Who says anyone wants their daughters to be engineers?!
That's another problem. Taking the choice away from our daughters.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #59 on: December 31, 2017, 12:56:59 AM »
1 - You disagreeing the real problem is men having power over women (meto scandal)?
2 - I said it will affect you. You for some reason keep bringing up respect. Some might think it is a guilt complex.
When I mention respect I’m referring to this
boys views of girls/women
Is there a different “view” I’m not aware of ? Please do tell :)