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Do you think heimishe magazines should show pictures of tzniusdig women?

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Only of Jewish women

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2017, 09:14:59 AM »
...of these magazines have rabbonim guiding them.
Am I correct it is all men?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #91 on: December 31, 2017, 09:16:14 AM »
ďWeĒ can discuss anything & everything (in fact we do), but most, if not all, of these magazines have rabbonim guiding them.

Do you know how many times I've heard well respected Rabbonim tell me they think X Y and Z but they can't say things because they can't make trouble? OR what will people think? etc. etc.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #92 on: December 31, 2017, 09:17:06 AM »
Am I correct it is all men?
The same men who mightíve allowed it back then

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #93 on: December 31, 2017, 09:17:31 AM »
Do you know how many times I've heard well respected Rabbonim tell me they think X Y and Z but they can't say things because they can't make trouble? OR what will people think? etc. etc.
Then itís time for them to retire

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #94 on: December 31, 2017, 09:18:26 AM »
Then itís time for them to retire

You'd have a lot of Rabbeim retiring if that happened :)
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #95 on: December 31, 2017, 09:19:07 AM »
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2017, 09:21:05 AM »
You'd have a lot of Rabbeim retiring if that happened :)
Hey, itís his job to speak up if he feels people are ignoring halachas.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2017, 09:26:49 AM »
Those aren't good excuses. You can't pull all the way to one side to avoid having discussion and differences in the middle.
  And half the issue is people actually believing these standards are 'correct' and anything different is 'wrong'. 

If most people adhereing to these standards were at least honest that they're doing them to avoid debating over specifics we'd already be a lot better off.
Dude, these are businesses.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #98 on: December 31, 2017, 09:27:10 AM »
Hey, itís his job to speak up if he feels people are ignoring halachas.

It's usually the opposite idea. People being too machmir. Things we do that aren't necessary. Things in the community that are becoming must dos, must haves, etc.

   Again, my comments are for those who don't really believe we need to erase women from magazines but just go with the flow.

I'm not one who likes to speak up or "make trouble" as I generally try to live peacefully in my little corner of the world and do my thing but I am starting to believe it is dangerous to let things like this that seemingly appear to be no big deal to "let be". 
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #99 on: December 31, 2017, 09:27:50 AM »
https://www.city.ac.uk/news/2016/july/infants-prefer-toys-typed-to-their-gender,-says-study
WOW that is a groundbreaking study. I guess the type of toys they have at home had nothing to do with it.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #100 on: December 31, 2017, 09:28:35 AM »
Dude, these are businesses.

We are not businesses.  We're the consumers. We decide who is buying or not.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #101 on: December 31, 2017, 09:30:40 AM »
We are not businesses.  We're the consumers. We decide who is buying or not.
There are magazines who do show & we're all free to buy those if we choose to.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #102 on: December 31, 2017, 09:31:12 AM »
Most of the things I've seen were from the 60's and 70's.  No one was sleeveless, they didn't have mixed dancing, their hair was covered.

Just saying.  And yes as a whole our communities have gotten "stricter" about a lot of things.


I guess the question is how do you decide when to stop going that way?
My uncle owned what was considered at that time to be the most frum hotel around and all the gedolim are there etc. At the advice of R Moshe they had two swimming pools so that purple should have the option of separate swimming while the other was mixed. R Moshe told him that is not the fight we are fighting now but separate should at least be available. My father and his cousins were about the only ones to use it.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #103 on: December 31, 2017, 09:32:47 AM »
The same men who mightíve allowed it back then
So yes is your answer.
So you have men in power making decisions for women all the time. You don't see how this could be a problem?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #104 on: December 31, 2017, 09:33:12 AM »
WOW that is a groundbreaking study. I guess the type of toys they have at home had nothing to do with it.

and women have babies because they are conditioned to at home.  Those poor boys, had their choice of having babies taken away from them by religiously influenced cultural conditioning.