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Author Topic: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?  (Read 121750 times)

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2018, 02:24:01 PM »
+1
  I’m not saying I agree to the concept of woman not driving but I hear it.
The world evolved. People have gotten smarter and learned that things ought to be different.  Change scares the Rabbonim.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2018, 02:24:21 PM »
They are not allowed to that either?
man are you in the wrong religion!
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2018, 02:24:41 PM »
They are not allowed to that either?
They are allowed. Just they would not feel comfortable/right doing it. Like you wouldn't see a congressman rollerblading on the streets of DC. In a park...maybe.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2018, 02:26:14 PM »
The world evolved. People have gotten smarter and learned that things ought to be different.  Change scares the Rabbonim.
+1, bringing a comparison to the blatant sexism that existed in the world before shouldn't have any bearing on this discussion. If anything it disproves your point.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2018, 02:26:38 PM »
It's ridiculous and I'm not afraid to say that. BTW, the info re: Ger women not driving is incorrect to the best of my knowledge.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2018, 02:27:38 PM »
I still haven't seen a reason articulated in this thread. I'm genuinely curious.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2018, 02:28:30 PM »
..and what exactly do you "hear" about it?

What's the legitimate concern such people hope to mitigate?
It’s not in the highest level of tzinus. Period
  In  the highest level of tzinus woman are almost never supposed to leave their house. Society has changed and it’s almost not possible nowadays. I’m litvish and wasn’t brought up that way to actually practice in this way but “I hear it “.
 

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2018, 02:30:02 PM »
It's ridiculous and I'm not afraid to say that. BTW, the info re: Ger women not driving is incorrect to the best of my knowledge.
I have Ger relatives in NY. Out of 7 of the girl cousins just one drives.

My cousin tried convincing his wife to take out a license and she wants to but she won't because she fears her kids will have issues with shidduchim one day.


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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #68 on: January 01, 2018, 02:30:13 PM »
Lol... racist There are many women on DDF.
No way. I'm not מקבל
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #69 on: January 01, 2018, 02:30:55 PM »
  In  the highest level of tzinus woman are almost never supposed to leave their house.
 

Source?

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #71 on: January 01, 2018, 02:32:48 PM »
It’s not in the highest level of tzinus. Period
  In  the highest level of tzinus woman are almost never supposed to leave their house. Society has changed and it’s almost not possible nowadays. I’m litvish and wasn’t brought up that way to actually practice in this way but “I hear it “.
 

So it's more tznius to walk to the grocery store than drive? And why would that be?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #72 on: January 01, 2018, 02:33:19 PM »
My feeling of yiddishkeit.
My feelings disagree with your feelings
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #73 on: January 01, 2018, 02:33:57 PM »
So it's more tznius to walk to the grocery store than drive? And why would that be?
Exactly the point I can't understand. And the taxi issue as well. I have no understanding of this policy
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #74 on: January 01, 2018, 02:34:27 PM »
My feeling of yiddishkeit.

OK. But the question is what the reasoning is for the communities who do not allow it is, not what miles lover's reasoning is.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #75 on: January 01, 2018, 02:34:32 PM »
It’s not in the highest level of tzinus. Period
  In  the highest level of tzinus woman are almost never supposed to leave their house. Society has changed and it’s almost not possible nowadays. I’m litvish and wasn’t brought up that way to actually practice in this way but “I hear it “.
 
Is it tznius to have to go with a cab driver to buy groceries or go to the doctor?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #76 on: January 01, 2018, 02:35:30 PM »
So it's more tznius to walk to the grocery store than drive? And why would that be?
Woman shouldn’t be going to be grocery either in the ultimate world of tzinus. Even the chasidim who forbid the woman from driving have to make some line.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #77 on: January 01, 2018, 02:36:33 PM »
Source?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #78 on: January 01, 2018, 02:37:17 PM »
Is it tznius to have to go with a cab driver to buy groceries or go to the doctor?
many frum communities  have cabs where you can request a female driver
 eta even in the non jewish world 
there is a large demand for uber and lyft to have that option simply for safety purposes
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #79 on: January 01, 2018, 02:37:58 PM »
Woman shouldn’t be going to be grocery either in the ultimate world of tzinus. Even the chasidim who forbid the woman from driving have to make some line.

That's an entire other issue, and it dodges question.

Is it OK for a woman to walk her kids to the park? Why is walking better than driving?
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