Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Porn.

...or lack of?

[Baruch]

Let me ask a crazy question. Is this so bad? What's more important, staying married or being happy? As Louis CK once said "no good marriage has ever ended in divorce."

What about the children? It may be better for them to have parents married - not so happily.

[mmgfarb]

What about the children? It may be better for them to have parents married - not so happily.

Not necessarily, it may be way better off for the kids to grow up with two loving, albeit separated, parents, than to grow up in a house where the parents hate each other.

[ExGingi]

In the past decade, the divorce rate in our community has risen several times over.

This is broadly broken down into 3 groups (in decreasing prevalence)
1- Newly weds. 20s. 0-2.7 years of marriage
2- People who have been married for decades. 50s-60s. children are now teens/out of house
3- Some group in between.

Why is this happening?

Without going into a discussion of whether this is fact or not, our generation is accustomed to quick easy solutions.

For example, how many people do you know that were diagnosed with pre-diabetes or actual type 2 diabetes that will take the effort to make life changes, rather than just use pills?

Marriage requires work!

and despite

Not necessarily, it may be way better off for the kids to grow up with two loving, albeit separated, parents, than to grow up in a house where the parents hate each other.

If indeed the parents put in sincere work and effort, even if not always a peaceful household, it is better than divorced parents.

[Redbull3]

Without going into a discussion of whether this is fact or not, our generation is accustomed to quick easy solutions.

For example, how many people do you know that were diagnosed with pre-diabetes or actual type 2 diabetes that will take the effort to make life changes, rather than just use pills?

Marriage requires work!

and despite
If indeed the parents put in sincere work and effort, even if not always a peaceful household, it is better than divorced parents.

Work, what's that grandpa. Signed, millennial

[avromie7]

Porn.

Definitely a huge part of the problem.

[mmgfarb]

If indeed the parents put in sincere work and effort, even if not always a peaceful household, it is better than divorced parents.

That's why I said "may" it obviously depends on the parents.

[aygart]

Not necessarily, it may be way better off for the kids to grow up with two loving, albeit separated, parents, than to grow up in a house where the parents hate each other.

Maybe you should find the child who grew up that way and see if they agree. Not sure you will find anyone to ask.

[Dawie]

http://matzav.com/matzav-shmooze-are-we-creating-two-different-products/

this?


Not

[henche]

http://matzav.com/matzav-shmooze-are-we-creating-two-different-products/

this?


Not

interesting

[mmgfarb]

Maybe you should find the child who grew up that way and see if they agree. Not sure you will find anyone to ask.

Find the children who grew up in homes where the parents should have divorced and didn't, instead subjecting their children to years of emotional abuse? Yea, it's hard to find those because they don't talk about it much.

[MC]

http://matzav.com/matzav-shmooze-are-we-creating-two-different-products/

this?


Not

Wow. Could there be a less informative article?
#chandlerout

[ChaimMoskowitz]

If indeed the parents put in sincere work and effort, even if not always a peaceful household, it is better than divorced parents.

Not when it is an abusive situation.

[iAm]

I am sure teens are more than capable to make this lifelong decision. Just remember you are not allowed to drink before, during or after the decision.

From the outside, its often hard to discern the subsects within the larger group. I personally am not referring to the hassidic community which dates <5 times and are still teens; Im just not really familiar with the marriage/divorce dynamics there.

Im referring to the part of the community that gets married bet 22-25, and dates 6-12 weeks. They're not teens. I am not saying theyre mature or that they date long enough. Thats basically what im getting at here:

I feel like theres discussion ad neausum about a shiddiuch crisis but not about a divorce endemic; and the focus on the former may be causing the latter. The question is if people are being pressured into marriages they should never be in, in the first place.

[iAm]

What about the children? It may be better for them to have parents married - not so happily.

Yes, hence group 2. Its also sad.

[shapsam]

Not when it is an abusive situation.

95% of the divorces in "the community" are not abusive situations.

[beeweegee]

...or lack of?

Care to explain...?

[aygart]

Find the children who grew up in homes where the parents should have divorced and didn't, instead subjecting their children to years of emotional abuse? Yea, it's hard to find those because they don't talk about it much.

These

kids to grow up with two loving, albeit separated, parents,

[HBS]

Maybe they should check out this
https://theshmuz.com/marriage-seminar/

[Yammer]

Without going into a discussion of whether this is fact or not, our generation is accustomed to quick easy solutions.

Marriage requires work!

Spot on.

interesting

That an whole article was written that makes no sense? ( Forget about the fact that there isn't a single example )

Wow. Could there be a less informative article?
#chandlerout

Probably the previous article