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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2018, 04:14:35 PM »
I though I was being clear that the sentiment was motivated by homerism, but even then I never said any medal is worth less.

My comment was more about medal distribution among the sports. You have large numbers of medals for competitions that don't seem all that different from one another. For example, the Dutch get all their winter medals from speed skating. Norway is slightly more diversified, but still gets most of their medals from disciplines where you ski distances (cross country, biathlon, nordic combined). Contrast that with a countries like Germany or Canada, which seem much more diversified, possibly suffering in their totals because of that. Even the US at the moment is basically all snowboard medals this year.

It can be even worse in the summer olympics, with swimming and track and field offering a zillion medals, and individual athletes being able to compete for so many medals in one year.If you define mainstream interest as not interested the rest of the year, then yes - hockey will be the only winter sport anyone cares about. But snowboarding definitely generates the most buzz, with figure skating probably even more popular worldwide.

You can't have it both ways. If being good at something means you can medal multiple times within a discipline, than diversified talent should only increase the amount of medals you win. But the reality is - every event is unique and requires different training, and that's probably why athletes don't usually participate in more than 1 event. Regarding diversity - it's not like an elite American cross country skier has any less chance of winning Gold because an American snowboarder from the same country won Gold. The American Olympic program is well funded (I'm sure Germany is as well) and can support the top trainers from all disciplines.

America sucks at the Olympics and there's no whitewashing that. As you mentioned yourself - we are good at snowboarding and nothing else. While tiny Norway is far ahead of us. No excuses.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2018, 04:22:36 PM »
bothered how?
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2018, 04:27:49 PM »
are we starting a religious discussion?
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 04:43:50 PM »
America sucks at the Olympics and there's no whitewashing that. As you mentioned yourself - we are good at snowboarding and nothing else. While tiny Norway is far ahead of us. No excuses.
America sucks at the Olympics? That's news to me. The have as many summer medals as the next 3 countries combined, and they have more winter medals than anyone other than Norway. In fact, the last time Norway had more medals than the US in a winter olympics was 1998. The winter games were founded on various types of skiing, and that's where Norway excels. They built up a big lead in the first several winter games when it was basically all skiing, and they keep the pace more or less by staying dominant in those disciplines.

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2018, 10:23:51 PM »
America sucks at the Olympics and there's no whitewashing that. As you mentioned yourself - we are good at snowboarding and nothing else.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2018, 10:26:40 PM »

America sucks at the Olympics and there's no whitewashing that. As you mentioned yourself - we are good at snowboarding and nothing else. While tiny Norway is far ahead of us. No excuses.


Out of the 90+ countries competing we're in the top 10 so far and will probably end up there when it's all over in terms of medals awarded.


And it looks like we finished 4th in terms of medal count in 2014.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2018, 10:31:48 PM »
America sucks at the Olympics? That's news to me. The have as many summer medals as the next 3 countries combined, and they have more winter medals than anyone other than Norway. In fact, the last time Norway had more medals than the US in a winter olympics was 1998. The winter games were founded on various types of skiing, and that's where Norway excels. They built up a big lead in the first several winter games when it was basically all skiing, and they keep the pace more or less by staying dominant in those disciplines.

I meant in this olympics the US is underperforming, not in general.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2018, 10:32:23 PM »

Out of the 90+ countries competing we're in the top 10 so far and will probably end up there when it's all over in terms of medals awarded.
We finished in the top 4 the last 4 Olympics with metal counts of 28, 37, 25 and 34. The 37 metal count was 7 more than any other nation. If @yuneeq thinks that sucks then where do I signup? Also I didn't know there was that many snowboarding events unless we won medals in other events.  :)
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2018, 10:34:53 PM »

Out of the 90+ countries competing we're in the top 10 so far and will probably end up there when it's all over in terms of medals awarded.


And it looks like we finished 4th in terms of medal count in 2014.

Top 10 is a low standard for a country that historically excels and probably spends the most money developing athletes. US should be top 3 every time.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2018, 10:35:43 PM »
Top 10 is a low standard for a country that historically excels and probably spends the most money developing athletes. US should be top 3 every time.
Guess we're 'only' top 4.  I still wouldn't call that 'sucking'.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2018, 10:37:28 PM »
Guess we're 'only' top 4.  I still wouldn't call that 'sucking'.

We’re 5th and are way behind Netherlands and Norway. Meh.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2018, 10:38:55 PM »
We finished in the top 4 the last 4 Olympics with metal counts of 28, 37, 25 and 34. The 37 metal count was 7 more than any other nation. If @yuneeq thinks that sucks then where do I signup? Also I didn't know there was that many snowboarding events unless we won medals in other events.  :)

Look at my post right above yours.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2018, 10:42:00 PM »
Look at my post right above yours.
That shows how little you know about the Olympics. Do you have any clue what events haven't even started to hand out medals yet?
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2018, 10:45:05 PM »


Do you have any clue what events haven't even started to hand out medals yet?

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2018, 10:51:30 PM »
That shows how little you know about the Olympics. Do you have any clue what events haven't even started to hand out medals yet?

Do you have a prediction or you just wanna pretend you know how many more medals the US will get
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