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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2018, 10:56:16 PM »
Do you have a prediction or you just wanna pretend you know how many more medals the US will get
I know we have no downhill, figure skating and hockey results just to name a few. All medal or multiple medal possibilities. Do I know for sure if any of them are going to pull off what S White just did on his last run, no. Your comment even if it was meant only for this Olympics was out of line and wrong.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2018, 11:32:05 PM »
Do you have a prediction or you just wanna pretend you know how many more medals the US will get
I know we have no downhill, figure skating and hockey results just to name a few. All medal or multiple medal possibilities. Do I know for sure if any of them are going to pull off what S White just did on his last run, no. Your comment even if it was meant only for this Olympics was out of line and wrong.
Throw freestyle skiing in there - only 2 of 10 events have been contested thus far. US pulled in 4 golds, 2 silvers, and 2 bronzes in the 2017 world championships.

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2018, 11:37:07 PM »
Throw freestyle skiing in there - only 2 of 10 events have been contested thus far. US pulled in 4 golds, 2 silvers, and 2 bronzes in the 2017 world championships.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2018, 08:22:43 AM »
I was watching the games with my wife last night and she told me how this is rooted in Avoda Zara- Low and behold she is right...
oh dear god. rooted? because they had athletic competitions every 4 years so therefore no one can do it? give me a break.

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2018, 04:25:11 PM »
oh dear god. rooted? because they had athletic competitions every 4 years so therefore no one can do it? give me a break.

yeshivish people were fedora style hats. It started in the early 20th century when EVERYONE wore them in the west. So is that bad? are yeshivish people just imitating the non jews and it should be avoided?

you sound upset...Not sure why...

 did you see the link I sent upstream which provides a little more accurate information then you are depicting?


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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2018, 04:40:50 PM »
you sound upset...Not sure why...

 did you see the link I sent upstream which provides a little more accurate information then you are depicting?
So I think I've gotten over the fact that you didn't seem to know the Olympics originated in ancient Greece. On to the more pressing question. Do you somehow think that the connection to ancient Greece somehow creates a halachic (or even hashkafic) problem for someone who wants to watch the winter games?

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2018, 04:52:14 PM »
No One knows something until they learn or relearn it

Second. I watch the games myself and it is without a question that it is bitul torah and thus being an avirah on its own right.( It just so happens that Chazal equate bitul torah to avodah zara... )

And yes if something is rooted in Avoda Zara I would specifically try hard to avoid it. A example of this is valentines day. It is rooted in avoda zara and because of that I will specifically not take part in any way.

At the same time I am not saying that wishing someone hppy V day is avoda zara...

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2018, 05:05:44 PM »
No One knows something until they learn or relearn it

Second. I watch the games myself and it is without a question that it is bitul torah and thus being an avirah on its own right.( It just so happens that Chazal equate bitul torah to avodah zara... )

And yes if something is rooted in Avoda Zara I would specifically try hard to avoid it. A example of this is valentines day. It is rooted in avoda zara and because of that I will specifically not take part in any way.

At the same time I am not saying that wishing someone hppy V day is avoda zara...
I think that's an overly broad application. What was taken from the ancient Greeks was at most the concept of athletic competition. You have thousands of years between the last actual Greek 'olypmics' and when it was revived 100+ years ago. Not to mention the fact that there were no winter olympics in Greece. The closest parallel within the current olympics would be track and field in the summer olympics.

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2018, 08:00:32 PM »
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2018, 08:10:27 PM »

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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2018, 08:28:19 PM »
You realize that no NHL players are participating, right?

Of course I do.
However there is former NHL players and there's much more talent in the USA (even without the NHL) than there is in Slovenia.

ETA: Take a look at all the talent that ever made it to the NHL from Slovenia - http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/nationality/slovenian-nhl-players-career-stats.html
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2018, 09:46:41 PM »
Of course I do.
However there is former NHL players and there's much more talent in the USA (even without the NHL) than there is in Slovenia.

ETA: Take a look at all the talent that ever made it to the NHL from Slovenia - http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/nationality/slovenian-nhl-players-career-stats.html
Do you know any of the US players? Who are the big names?
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2018, 10:35:46 PM »
Do you know any of the US players? Who are the big names?

I know some of them. No big names. Still the talent level is a much higher.
Who would you pick to win? And give up a 2-0 lead?

(Opening odds to win Gold)
USA +900
Slovenia +25000

ETA: The USA is -950 on the money line in its game against Slovenia
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2018, 10:49:22 PM »
I know some of them. No big names. Still the talent level is a much higher.
Who would you pick to win? And give up a 2-0 lead?

(Opening odds to win Gold)
USA +900
Slovenia +25000

ETA: The USA is -950 on the money line in its game against Slovenia
Have no idea about Slovenia. US men's is not expected to do anything. They just lost three games in some Cup a couple months ago. Total score was like 13-4. Are you allowed to watch the women? US/CA is on now live.
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Re: Winter Olympics 2018
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2018, 10:57:24 PM »
Do you know any of the US players? Who are the big names?
I know some of them. No big names.
Brian Gionta!!!!

Seriously though, the big knock on the construction of this roster is actually that there are too many NHL washouts currently playing in the AHL or KHL, and not enough young guys still in college (a la Miracle on Ice).