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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 23440 times)

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2018, 10:24:14 PM »
Look, we have many different gun problems. We can continue ban guns vs do nothing and watch this happen at an accelerated pace. Or we can try an idea from both sides and see if it helps. If everyone would look at this as if it was their own son or daughter that was killed we would get somewhere.

Shouldn’t we aim for that which is possible?

Americans aren’t giving up their guns.

The only possible way to curb this situation is to have airport-level security in every school, and basic double-gated security at every synagogue and church.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2018, 10:26:27 PM »

Death penalty won't scare them more then life behind bars.
I think a publicly available video of the death penalty being carried out would do wonders for that concern.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2018, 10:27:24 PM »
What I meant was the ones that count towards the number two should be fatal shots (killed on scene). Not non fatal shots that killed from let's say bleeding.

If it was up to me personally, I would without a doubt implement a death penalty on even one. But due to people's mercy I don't think people would agree in this crazy world.

Therefore I would propose a law that would try to instill any sort of thinking on the perpetrator. If the law is after two people killed then the perpetrator might want to only kill the main person that they have a grudge against. Same for lethal shots. Trying to give an incentive not to kill but to injure.
no killer goes in their thinking through the consequences in a logical matter. they go in thinking that their is potential to get killed by responding law enforcement
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2018, 10:28:09 PM »
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2018, 10:29:34 PM »
That would allow using the tax code to penalize any freedom. Tax religion. Tax speech. Not even a slippery slope it is what they would be doing.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2018, 10:33:45 PM »
no killer goes in their thinking through the consequences in a logical matter. they go in thinking that their is potential to get killed by responding law enforcement
I'm not following. Therefore what?
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2018, 10:34:01 PM »
What I meant was the ones that count towards the number two should be fatal shots (killed on scene). Not non fatal shots that killed from let's say bleeding.
OK, I thought you meant to kill the shooter on scene.  :)
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2018, 10:35:41 PM »
I'm not following. Therefore what?
therefore thedeath penalty wont really prevent them from killing people if they have no real plans on living
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2018, 10:36:28 PM »
OK, I thought you meant to kill the shooter on scene.  :)
we should but thats not gonna prevent more such stories from happening
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2018, 10:38:30 PM »
They shouldn't ban them. They should tax them. Big time. At the manufacturer level. Thousands of dollars per new gun. And offer tax credit or other incentives to turn in old ones. Eventually pass a federal tax on keeping existing guns. Don't turn in your guns? Tax lien on your house!
What do you gain by doing this? Why not just ban it right away and yes all guns have to be turned in. Maybe offer tax credits for the financial loss.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2018, 10:41:13 PM »
That is a good idea. Then you would be hearing the D's screaming what about the poor people, they can't afford a gun.
FTFY
And they'll come up with the solution of taxing rich people more so that the poor people will be able to afford it.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2018, 10:43:38 PM »
FTFY
And they'll come up with the solution of taxing rich people more so that the poor people will be able to afford it.
More like complaining about the rich who can afford it
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2018, 10:45:31 PM »
FTFY
You just can't look at anything objectively. The D's want less people with guns.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2018, 10:57:13 PM »
You just can't look at anything objectively. The D's want less people with guns.
I'm not sure I believe that. I think they just want to control people in any way possible (since they know better on how to spend our money, raise our kids, believe in our god's, etc). If it means to say guns are bad, fine. If it means making people give up their money for other people's 'rights', also fine.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2018, 11:01:31 PM »
I'm not sure I believe that. I think they just want to control people in any way possible (since they know better on how to spend our money, raise our kids, believe in our god's, etc). If it means to say guns are bad, fine. If it means making people give up their money for other people's 'rights', also fine.
OK I get it. You are drinking the Kool-Aid.  :)
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