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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 203083 times)

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1341 on: April 25, 2018, 12:24:51 PM »
He's gota point there
I stop responding to him a long time ago in this thread. That will not change.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1342 on: April 25, 2018, 12:29:11 PM »
I stop responding to him a long time ago in this thread. That will not change.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1343 on: April 25, 2018, 12:29:49 PM »
I stop responding to him a long time ago in this thread. That will not change.
What happened? I proved you wrong too many times, so you'd rather ignore the truth?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1344 on: April 25, 2018, 01:28:07 PM »
I stop responding to him a long time ago in this thread. That will not change.
sigh ::)
Have it your way.

Here is a source for what @ssvarc was saying

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29724/narrative-fail-uncovered-surveys-cdc-failed-make-ryan-saavedra
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1345 on: April 25, 2018, 01:51:33 PM »
sigh ::)
Have it your way.

Here is a source for what @ssvarc was saying

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29724/narrative-fail-uncovered-surveys-cdc-failed-make-ryan-saavedra
Completely meaningless. Please link to the CDC results and not an interpretation.
Also we are talking about lives saved. I have personal experience of situations were a gun was shown. It didn't saved any lives.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1346 on: April 25, 2018, 02:02:12 PM »
Completely meaningless. Please link to the CDC results and not an interpretation.
Also we are talking about lives saved. I have personal experience of situations were a gun was shown. It didn't saved any lives.
You post articles interpreting numbers all the time.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1347 on: April 25, 2018, 02:05:19 PM »
You post articles interpreting numbers all the time.
...and I get called out on it. If the CDC has hard numbers showing more lives are saved it should be easy to link to it.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1348 on: April 25, 2018, 02:08:26 PM »
You post articles interpreting numbers all the time.
Why are you handfeeding pureed food to The Huff?

Let him first post proof for his assertions.

No double standards.

No feeding trolls.

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1349 on: April 25, 2018, 02:11:19 PM »
Why are you handfeeding pureed food to The Huff?

Let him first post proof for his assertions.

No double standards.

No feeding trolls.
The one with the idiotic claim is back.  ::)
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1351 on: April 25, 2018, 02:43:37 PM »
Good/bad gun nonsense ends again with tragic results. How many more must die?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/one-officer-has-died-in-dallas-home-depot-shooting/ar-AAwkhWq?li=BBnb7Kz
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1352 on: April 25, 2018, 02:49:36 PM »
Good/bad gun nonsense ends again with tragic results. How many more must die?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/one-officer-has-died-in-dallas-home-depot-shooting/ar-AAwkhWq?li=BBnb7Kz
We should also take guns away from cops, clearly they don't help them and only make us less safe by having more guns around.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1353 on: April 25, 2018, 02:52:31 PM »
Good/bad gun nonsense ends again with tragic results. How many more must die?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/one-officer-has-died-in-dallas-home-depot-shooting/ar-AAwkhWq?li=BBnb7Kz
I don't even understand you like of thought here.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1354 on: April 25, 2018, 02:56:23 PM »
I don't even understand you like of thought here.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1355 on: April 26, 2018, 03:54:06 PM »

Spell check gone bad?
I don't even understand you line of thought here.
FTFY
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1356 on: April 26, 2018, 04:02:02 PM »
FTFY
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1357 on: April 26, 2018, 04:19:36 PM »
Completely meaningless. Please link to the CDC results and not an interpretation.
Also we are talking about lives saved. I have personal experience of situations were a gun was shown. It didn't saved any lives.

Anecdotal evidence?  That's beneath you!

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1358 on: April 26, 2018, 04:25:22 PM »
Anecdotal evidence? 
Yes but that's better than no evidence at all. If there is a CDC report then they should link to it.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1359 on: April 26, 2018, 04:35:42 PM »
Completely meaningless. Please link to the CDC results and not an interpretation.
Also we are talking about lives saved. I have personal experience of situations were a gun was shown. It didn't saved any lives.
Here are two articles which each have a bunch of links to sources.
https://reason.com/blog/2018/04/20/cdc-provides-more-evidence-that-plenty-o
https://reason.com/blog/2015/03/09/how-to-count-the-defensive-use-of-guns
https://fee.org/articles/defensive-gun-use-is-more-than-shooting-bad-guys/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/defensive-gun-ownership-gary-kleck-response-115082
It seems the actual CDC numbers are not available on their website.
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