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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2018, 07:03:16 PM »
Guys shouldn't we be complaining to the top suppliers....what options do the airlines have?

Hermis from Londen?

From the U.S. Bornstein is really the only option. Instead of complaining to the airlines complain to Bornstein...especially as a Jewish company with the responsibility and privilege of being the exclusive provider of kosher meals they really should take it upon themselves to up their game...also why not take a little profit loss and offer even the economy meals to be a little substantial.
wrong. I know a few caterers who have bid on contracts but lost. Additionally, borenstein undercuts everyone and provides garbage. I know caterers in Boston that woul love an airline contract and can provide a solid product but would have to charge $10-15 per meal and the airlines don't want to pay.

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2018, 07:24:05 PM »
I recently flew Cathay premium economy EWR-HKG, on the outbound I was served Borenstein, worse than dog food and literally nothing edible. Inbound was served Hermolis which was delicious and like getting Reserve Cut in comparison.

We should really make a stink over Borensteins, they should be publicly embarrassed that they make Jews fly hungry because they are greedy.
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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2018, 08:37:09 PM »
I recently flew Cathay premium economy EWR-HKG, on the outbound I was served Borenstein, worse than dog food and literally nothing edible. Inbound was served Hermolis which was delicious and like getting Reserve Cut in comparison.

We should really make a stink over Borensteins, they should be publicly embarrassed that they make Jews fly hungry because they are greedy.

That was a punishment for flying Y to HKG. As a DDFER we expect better 😀

Joke aside. I agree with you 100%. We have organizations for everything. Why isn't there an organization that caters an abundance of food for the hungry Jews? Or at least charge airlines cost price.

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2018, 09:08:44 PM »
That was a punishment for flying Y to HKG. As a DDFER we expect better 😀

Booked last minute, didnít really have a choice.
I can only imagine paying for business and getting Borensteins, such a freaking disgrace!
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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #49 on: May 08, 2018, 09:12:28 PM »
I recently flew Cathay premium economy EWR-HKG, on the outbound I was served Borenstein, worse than dog food and literally nothing edible. Inbound was served Hermolis which was delicious and like getting Reserve Cut in comparison.

We should really make a stink over Borensteins, they should be publicly embarrassed that they make Jews fly hungry because they are greedy.
Just remember who owns Borensteins.
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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2018, 09:13:57 PM »
Just remember who owns Borensteins.

I have absolutely no idea
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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2018, 09:18:13 PM »

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2018, 09:26:09 PM »
Dog food shouldnít be served as KSML even in Y. Itís pretty ridiculous that in J and F airlines donít bother to offer a CHOICE of KSML!
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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2018, 11:09:15 PM »
I flew SQ R and got a very poor KSML from Bornstein, poor regarding the offering, not quality.
I asked my sales rep afterwards in Suites you offer a meal labeled business? He said "there is no kosher kitchen in NY"
So basically if SQ orders from BC a business meal for suites with plastic utensils, don't blame Bornstein

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2018, 12:06:48 AM »
I flew SQ R and got a very poor KSML from Bornstein, poor regarding the offering, not quality.
I asked my sales rep afterwards in Suites you offer a meal labeled business? He said "there is no kosher kitchen in NY"
So basically if SQ orders from BC a business meal for suites with plastic utensils, don't blame Bornstein

You got a high quality meal from Borenstein?
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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2018, 08:21:19 AM »
I wanna share my experience which I had on a flight from IAD to LHR on BA, I got served a day after Pesach Sheini kosher for Passover food which was expired.
Any advice what route to take with that would be appreciated.
I did filed a complaint onboard with the FA, what can I expect from BA, so far didn't heard from them.

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2018, 08:23:21 AM »
I made pictures of the packages, I just can't upload it here.

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2018, 10:12:46 AM »
I wanna share my experience which I had on a flight from IAD to LHR on BA, I got served a day after Pesach Sheini kosher for Passover food which was expired.
Any advice what route to take with that would be appreciated.
I did filed a complaint onboard with the FA, what can I expect from BA, so far didn't heard from them.
What company meal?

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2018, 10:37:49 AM »
wrong. I know a few caterers who have bid on contracts but lost. Additionally, borenstein undercuts everyone and provides garbage. I know caterers in Boston that woul love an airline contract and can provide a solid product but would have to charge $10-15 per meal and the airlines don't want to pay.
an aa flight attendant once told me (a few years ago) that ksml costs them $25 on average. not sure how she knew and dont remember details as i was less affluent traveler back then but nonetheless, that stuck out and every time i order ksml, i remember it. so i try to  find the good in the meal so i dont feel guilty ordering and having it go to garbage...
on a separate note, b6 also uses borenstein and the meals are significantly superior to other carriers. its all about what the airlines order from the caterer

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Re: Kosher Meals - Can we do better?
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2018, 10:44:33 AM »
an aa flight attendant once told me (a few years ago) that ksml costs them $25 on average. not sure how she knew and dont remember details as i was less affluent traveler back then but nonetheless, that stuck out and every time i order ksml, i remember it. so i try to  find the good in the meal so i dont feel guilty ordering and having it go to garbage...
on a separate note, b6 also uses borenstein and the meals are significantly superior to other carriers. its all about what the airlines order from the caterer
I don't believe they pay anything close to $25 per meal.