One day or two

[ExGingi]

From the way the conversation continues it sounds like you are actually advocating picking who to ask based on their answer.

Not advocating anything. Stating facts.

My SIL just mentioned yesterday, that when he was in Yeshiva in Eretz Yisroel and inquired, he was told that if he prefers to keep two days he should ask Rov A, and if he prefers to keep one day he should ask Rov B.

[Ergel]

Not advocating anything. Stating facts.

My SIL just mentioned yesterday, that when he was in Yeshiva in Eretz Yisroel and inquired, he was told that if he prefers to keep two days he should ask Rov A, and if he prefers to keep one day he should ask Rov B.

That sounds really strange. Don't think Halacha works like that

[ExGingi]

That sounds really strange. Don't think Halacha works like that

Why don't you teach us how Halacha does work.

My Rov told me who to call,

Why did he tell you who to call rather than give you his own ruling?

[Dan]

He wanted me to speak to someone in the holy land.

[ExGingi]

He wanted me to speak to someone in the holy land.

That doesn't really answer much. What could someone in the holy land answer that a Rov in CLE could not, if it were simple clear cut ruling?

[Dan]

Who said anything about this issue being simple or clear cut??

[ExGingi]

The Rebbe said to ask your Rov. He was not a posek.

http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=15887&st=&pgnum=185

[ExGingi]

Who said anything about this issue being simple or clear cut??

I know that you and I are more or less on the same page, but some people here seem to be unsure how Halacha "works".

[skyguy918]

Come on. You don't actually think that that's the point of the Yerushalmi

While you're waiting on Exgingi's response, can you articulate what it is you're trying to take out of the Yerushalmi?

[ADG]

what about an israeli spending  chag outside of US?

[ExGingi]

There Rebbe has told different people different things, some in a more clear way and some in a more indirect way.
In the Sefer נתיבים בשדה השליחות Rabbi Raskin gives a very good overview of the different answers the Rebbe gave to people as well as things mentioned at public gatherings and basically explains most of the seemingly conflicting answers of the Rebbe as well as parts of Shulchan Aruch Harav as each referring to different situations.

His summary:

[Ergel]

Why don't you teach us how Halacha does work.

Despite your combativeness and your inability to respond to my questions, I'll indulge you with a response.
My understanding of psak is that one should not go shopping specifically for the answer that one wants. One should have a Rav/posek of whom they ask questions and follow his psak

[Ergel]

While you're waiting on Exgingi's response, can you articulate what it is you're trying to take out of the Yerushalmi?

That yom tov sheini is a punishment for not keeping yom tov rishon and not a lechatchila. And as the pnei Moshe explains, when you punish your kid for not cleaning up and they need to clean up double, they don't get credit for cleaning up double.

[ExGingi]

Despite your combativeness and your inability to respond to my questions, I'll indulge you with a response.

Oh. I was just following up on @Dan's comment:

My Rov told me who to call, but thanks for playing.

And לגופו של ענין, I didn't really notice a question in your posts.

My understanding of psak is that one should not go shopping specifically for the answer that one wants. One should have a Rav/posek of whom they ask questions and follow his psak

You are absolutely correct. But what does one do when his Rov/posek refuses to give a psak? Or if instructed to "ask a Rov in the holy land", at which point one can (possibly) pick and choose out of several competent Rabbonim?

[ExGingi]

That yom tov sheini is a punishment for not keeping yom tov rishon and not a lechatchila. And as the pnei Moshe explains, when you punish your kid for not cleaning up and they need to clean up double, they don't get credit for cleaning up double.

As I mentioned above, we don't really care about credit.

And even though it is מפני חטאינו גלינו מארצנו as we all say in מוסף, in a certain way it is קלקלתנו זוהי תקנתנו, where we merit to have another day of יו"ט. I see it somewhat akin to what Rashi says about שמיני עצרת.

But I guess in order to really appreciate it, you need to be connected to a Rebbe.


ETA: If one can call having another day of יו"ט a "punishment", I will take as much of that "punishment" as possible.

[Ergel]

But I guess in order to really appreciate it, you need to be connected to a Rebbe.

Well, that clears it up

[ExGingi]

Well, that clears it up

Didn't you follow the links I posted here? (though that takes it to an entire different level).

[MeirS]

His summary:

Thanks.
Does he have anything on בני ארה''ק coming to חו''ל?
I haven't had a chance to look up that book in a while.

[Ergel]

I did, though not sure what you were trying to get at with that. Unless you're saying that the beis hamikdash is actually in Brooklyn and therefore you can be mekadesh Al pi reiyah there. Or something like that

When you said you need to be connected to a Rebbe to really appreciate, did you mean you need to be connected to my Rebbe?

[Ergel]

Also, you don't actually believe that the yerushalmi meant it positively, do you?