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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1840 on: November 08, 2017, 09:56:18 AM »
There is Chabad in Megeve but no daily minyan to the best of my knowledge. Shabbos Minyanim if there are enough people. He doesn't live there full time.

you are right but as of now there is going to be there a jewish hotel club for the winter http://www.kosherskiclub.com/ and i contact them because i was planing to go there for the mid winter and confirmed with me that they are working with the Chabad Rabbi and its going to be daily Minyanim and he actually confirmed that even on Purim it will be there a Minyan until Nisan

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1841 on: November 09, 2017, 01:41:55 PM »
Thanks everyone for the help let me make my self clear i am not obsessed with Davos the only reason i was thinking about is because i am looking to use points and i have hilton and ihg points and both have hotels in Davos if anyone is aware of another area in the alps with a hotel with points in an area that has a minyan would be a huge help.
I was in Davos this summer and stayed at the IHG. It's beautiful and super friendly staff and not at all expensive. I saw the Hilton its not cheaper and not as nice.
Also they provide free shuttles all around the city whenever you need.
Definitely recommend IHG.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1842 on: November 09, 2017, 06:48:41 PM »
Also they provide free shuttles all around the city whenever you need.
Their own shuttles? Don't all guests who stay in the Davos-Klosters area for two nights and more get a Guestekarte that they can use on all local busses and chairlifts?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1843 on: November 10, 2017, 03:54:42 AM »
Their own shuttles? Don't all guests who stay in the Davos-Klosters area for two nights and more get a Guestekarte that they can use on all local busses and chairlifts?
Actualy in Davos you get the card even if you stay one night!
Back to the minyan anyone know if there is a minyan there in the winter???????

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1844 on: November 15, 2017, 05:42:17 AM »
Does it make sense to do a 24 hr stop in Zurich during December?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1845 on: November 15, 2017, 11:44:21 AM »
Does it make sense to do a 24 hr stop in Zurich during December?
If you have never been, then yes.
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« Reply #1846 on: November 15, 2017, 02:56:23 PM »
Does it make sense to do a 24 hr stop in Zurich during December?
if possible for same price try Geneva it is much nicer and not far from Geneva lake

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1847 on: November 15, 2017, 02:59:38 PM »
if possible for same price try Geneva it is much nicer and not far from Geneva lake
people dont like to go through geneva since the flight from geneva to TLV is operated by LY and is not lie flat

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1848 on: November 15, 2017, 03:50:07 PM »
Whats there to do in Geneva? I was there once and was bored out of my mind.

Anyways, the question is if in December there's anything worthwhile to do in either Zurich and Lucerne. Not window shopping type of things but rather is it possible to go up a mountain, or in December it's usually a problem. Does it make sense to go out on the lake, or perhaps it's frozen, or too cold etc.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1849 on: November 15, 2017, 04:26:30 PM »
Whats there to do in Geneva?
Probably the only place you can get out and go skiing on a few hour stopover.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1850 on: November 15, 2017, 04:45:31 PM »
with a 24 hour stop in zrh, you can practically go anywhere skiing. the closest place is called Flumserberg, its beautiful there, (there are some tough slopes) and very reasonably priced. If I remember correctly its less than 45 min from Flughafen Airport,
but theres no reason ($$$ permitting) that you cant go to davos/klosters, (2 hours) or even Saint Moritz.(2.5 hours) 24 hours is plenty of time. i have been all over Switzerland in summer and winter, and besides skiing/hiking, i find it to be a very boring country as far as tourism. (picturesque, but boring:)                                                       
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1851 on: November 15, 2017, 05:20:00 PM »
OK, thanks for that. I should have mentioned that I will be with my entire family and skiing isn't an option. I've been to Davos, St Moritz and Zermatt  already, so I'm really focused on Zurich/Lucerne here. So, besides for skiing, anything to do in the area for 24 hrs in December? Anyone can please weigh in including @chuchem

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1852 on: November 16, 2017, 05:31:36 AM »
Going to be in Zurich for 11 hours from 11 until 10 by myself. I am not a skier. Any other options when weather is so cold?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1853 on: November 17, 2017, 11:36:05 AM »
people dont like to go through geneva since the flight from geneva to TLV is operated by LY and is not lie flat
how do you know he's going to TLV  but anyhow thanks for that info that it is not lie flat

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« Reply #1854 on: November 17, 2017, 11:44:57 AM »
OK, thanks for that. I should have mentioned that I will be with my entire family and skiing isn't an option. I've been to Davos, St Moritz and Zermatt  already, so I'm really focused on Zurich/Lucerne here. So, besides for skiing, anything to do in the area for 24 hrs in December? Anyone can please weigh in including @chuchem
maybe try saas fee they have a ice palace and a beautiful view of the alps they have some kids fun to like mountain coaster and snow tubing

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1855 on: November 17, 2017, 11:46:38 AM »
Going to be in Zurich for 11 hours from 11 until 10 by myself. I am not a skier. Any other options when weather is so cold?
some nice art museum in zurich but you also might enjoy visiting the jewish community there

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1856 on: November 19, 2017, 11:16:44 AM »
some nice art museum in zurich but you also might enjoy visiting the jewish community there
Go to Utliberg. You can take train from airport to central train station and switch to the Utliberg train abt takes you 95% up the top

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1857 on: November 19, 2017, 12:57:25 PM »
Ultimately, I decided against stopping in Zurich. Thanks all for the input

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1858 on: November 19, 2017, 07:36:49 PM »
Go to Utliberg. You can take train from airport to central train station and switch to the Utliberg train abt takes you 95% up the top
If he has 11 hours why shouldn't he see some real mountains, and not just a small hill?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1859 on: November 19, 2017, 08:43:53 PM »
If he has 11 hours why shouldn't he see some real mountains, and not just a small hill?

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