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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2021, 03:07:48 PM »
Is there any other time the Torah says this ?
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2021, 03:26:42 PM »
Was thinking about this during laining this week.
Anyone that sees a Sotah is yazir atzmo min hayayin, because whatever you see has an effect on you....
That's exactly why you should look in this case. Nobody did anything wrong here
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2021, 03:28:48 PM »
That's exactly why you should look in this case. Nobody did anything wrong here
That wasn’t my point.
My point is that what ever you see has an affect....

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2022, 12:33:31 PM »
Did we really need to have posted on the news chats the Gadol Hador wrapped in a Tallis on the floor?!? how insensitive  :'(
+1000. I was shocked that someone would even have the chutzpah to take a picture in that situation and not be embarrassed of doing so.

Between this and last week's video of a Lakewood yungerman's fatal car crash I think we have a long way to go, both on the frum news sites and on whatsapp.

(Responding here so we don't take the RIP thread off topic)

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2022, 12:55:59 PM »
Insensitive isn't the right word. It is a bizayon hatorah to consider it a prop c"v The bigger issue is the person who actually took the picture being described.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2022, 12:57:41 PM »
The bigger issue is the person who actually took the picture being described.
That's a bigger issue than news sites posting it?
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #66 on: March 18, 2022, 01:05:59 PM »
That's a bigger issue than news sites posting it?

Meant to end with and releasing it. THe news sites are a race to the bottom and have their business pressures etc, but I can't fathom someone actually taking the picture or releasing it
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2022, 01:07:22 PM »
THe news sites are a race to the bottom.
So why are they not being condemned?
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2022, 01:07:51 PM »
So why are they not being condemned?
By?
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #69 on: March 18, 2022, 01:08:11 PM »
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #70 on: March 18, 2022, 01:09:03 PM »
+1000. I was shocked that someone would even have the chutzpah to take a picture in that situation and not be embarrassed of doing so.

Between this and last week's video of a Lakewood yungerman's fatal car crash I think we have a long way to go, both on the frum news sites and on whatsapp.

(Responding here so we don't take the RIP thread off topic)
2 different scenarios. When a gadol is niftar he’s placed in his shul (or house) wrapped in a talis & hundreds & even thousands of people come to say tehillim until the levaya.
An accident should never be shown.

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #71 on: March 18, 2022, 01:14:41 PM »
Other news sites lol

But then they won't be able to post the same picture with their giant watermark on it.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2022, 01:15:44 PM »
What are your thoughts about the horrific pictures of genocide?
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2022, 01:17:39 PM »
What are your thoughts about the horrific pictures of genocide?

At least in that case the argument can be made that awareness can be helpful.

That being said I personally avoid looking at those types of pictures.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #74 on: March 18, 2022, 01:18:21 PM »
What are your thoughts about the horrific pictures of genocide?
If g-d forbid that was me laying there in the street I would not want the world seeing me like that.

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2022, 01:20:37 PM »
At least in that case the argument can be made that awareness can be helpful.

That being said I personally avoid looking at those types of pictures.

And sometimes it is the graphic images that are the impetus to ensure it ends or is prevented in the future.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2022, 01:21:33 PM »
At least in that case the argument can be made that awareness can be helpful.

That being said I personally avoid looking at those types of pictures.
If g-d forbid that was me laying there in the street I would not want the world seeing me like that.
I fully understand and agree. What triggered the question was my visit to Auschwitz.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2022, 01:28:43 PM »
Am I the only one that doesn't see an issue? Like @TimT kind of said, it's not like there was an accident and that's why he's there. He died. This is the way they do it there. It's equivalent to being put into a coffin here. Do you have a problem with them showing a flag draped coffin? How about a funeral procession? How about a picture of a cemetery where there are thousands of people who *gasp* died and are buried? It's normal and it will happen to all of us eventually. Again, if they're showing a body in a body bag after an accident or a shooting, that is completely different.

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2022, 01:43:17 PM »
The cynic in me thinks: this is the logical conclusion when an adam gadol is used as a prop (by family members) for the last 10-15 years.

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2022, 03:07:18 PM »
Did we really need to have posted on the news chats the Gadol Hador wrapped in a Tallis on the floor?!? how insensitive  :'(

I politely disagree. In was not considered acceptable to post pictures of levayas etc. as news items until relatively recently, but now it certainly is.

I think the picture here worth 1000 words can be a source of inspiration for people.

Its a busy Erev Shabbos after a very busy day. Perhpas we can be Inspirep to open a sefer, or read an inspirational online article on the parasha. Even for just 5 minutes; something to fill this tremendous void.