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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5140 on: November 04, 2023, 09:49:21 PM »
Do you think these individuals understand that for all practical matters they are dead? It is not about if but when!

Israel will kill Hamas terror leader Yahya Sinwar, Gallant vows
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-will-kill-hamas-terror-leader-yahya-sinwar-gallant-vows/ar-AA1jnOiK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=f4f01e4be46c4142a2d3e2e1cb59fd3a&ei=12
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5141 on: November 04, 2023, 09:50:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/sarahraviani/status/1720895916503179724

Tell me more about they only want peace.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5142 on: November 04, 2023, 09:57:21 PM »
This is from FOX. 100% pro-Israel.

Pro-Palestinian protests turn violent across Europe
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pro-palestinian-protests-turn-violent-across-europe/ar-AA1joPgK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ba87e7e9564243c89efd176411f17da9&ei=42

As many as 9,900 people have been killed in the war on both sides, including at least 1,400 Israeli civilians and soldiers and 35 Americans.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5144 on: November 04, 2023, 10:09:24 PM »
4 billion people!
I'm noticing that certain people have a difficult time counting...

https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1720621365210820992/photo/1

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5146 on: November 04, 2023, 10:13:21 PM »
This is from FOX. 9900% pro-Israel.

Pro-Palestinian protests turn violent across Europe
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pro-palestinian-protests-turn-violent-across-europe/ar-AA1joPgK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ba87e7e9564243c89efd176411f17da9&ei=42

As many as 9,900 people have been killed in the war on both sides, including at least 1,400 Israeli civilians and soldiers and 35 Americans.
FTFM.

It doesn't matter how much you make like you love Israel. There is simply no way on knowing how many people died in Gaza, since those who are in the position to know are a bunch of proven liars.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5147 on: November 04, 2023, 10:17:19 PM »
I think it's time for Israel to stop the PR game.
The minds of the public are already set.
There aren't really any "undecided voters" around who's opinion will change when a certain video gets explained or not.
Therefore, Israel should just ignore any media, stop taking interviews, turn off Internet Gaza, and journalists in northern Gaza should be expelled.
The world will cry a bit, but eventually stop (when was the last time a newspaper reported that Russia doesn't allow the press watching their front or battles with Ukraine).
Those who are pro-Israel will stay that way and those who hate will continue hating regardless of the effort.

If Israel has the means to fight its own wars then sure. As long they are reliant on the lifeline the US is giving them they need to continue the PR game so the US won't turn their backs on them.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5148 on: November 04, 2023, 10:18:13 PM »
There is simply no way on knowing how many people died in Gaza, since those who are in the position to know are a bunch of proven liars.
The other side is becoming the narrative. Stay in the echo-chamber as the support keeps eroding.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5149 on: November 04, 2023, 10:28:56 PM »
The other side is becoming the narrative. Stay in the echo-chamber as the support keeps eroding.
The fact that so many are showing that they are anti-Semites doesn't change the facts. I'm not in the echo-chamber. They are. And you seem to be fazed by their rhetoric.

Without citing any outside outlet or opinion, I have a question for you: Did Israel do anything morally wrong in their current war?

If you say yes, please tell me what they should've done instead, and if the same wrongdoings were perpetrated by the US or the UK anytime over the last 100 years.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5150 on: November 04, 2023, 10:30:14 PM »
Only realistic method of getting hostages freed:
Mossad/CIA arranges for Haniyeh to be kidnapped (wasn't he just on a private jet to Iran?), chop off a limb, and ley him bleed to a slow and painful death unless all hostages are released.




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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5151 on: November 04, 2023, 10:44:55 PM »
Only realistic method of getting hostages freed:
Mossad/CIA arranges for Haniyeh to be kidnapped (wasn't he just on a private jet to Iran?), chop off a limb, and ley him bleed to a slow and painful death unless all hostages are released.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5153 on: November 04, 2023, 10:52:34 PM »
“Our paramedics’ bodies were found with their medical gloves still on, murdered by Hamas in the midst of treating the wounded.
Our ambulance drivers were executed in cold blood while sitting in the drivers’ seats.
Our ambulances were intentionally torched and blown up by Hamas terrorists to prevent any attempt to save victims.
@antonioguterres
 why are these deliberate attacks on Magen David Adom, Israel’s Red Cross, not worthy of your “horror”?
You will forever be remembered as the UN Secretary-General that aided terrorists and refused to condemn the murder of Israelis.”

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5155 on: November 04, 2023, 10:57:31 PM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5158 on: November 04, 2023, 11:15:03 PM »
I think it's time for Israel to stop the PR game.
The minds of the public are already set.
There aren't really any "undecided voters" around who's opinion will change when a certain video gets explained or not.
Therefore, Israel should just ignore any media, stop taking interviews, turn off Internet Gaza, and journalists in northern Gaza should be expelled.
The world will cry a bit, but eventually stop (when was the last time a newspaper reported that Russia doesn't allow the press watching their front or battles with Ukraine).
Those who are pro-Israel will stay that way and those who hate will continue hating regardless of the effort.

I recoiled at first when I saw this post, but now I actually think that this position has merit, and in fact may make it easier for Biden to continue supporting Israel.

Let's face it: most of the world's media outlets at this point focus most of their reporting spreading Hamas propaganda, which is really Hamas's only hope of survival and their go-to tactic ever since they've sullied this planet with their existence. The reason: antisemitism and a leftist ideology which biases the media to make sense of the reality in a way that fits their worldview.

I don't think Israel should shut down their official communications with the press or quit giving interviews. I think it is a basic responsibility to inform the international community (and especially the Jewish public) about the realities on the ground. But without a constant stream of footage from Gaza, this story will likely die or slow to a trickle just like the Russia/Ukraine conflict. (Presumably, Elon Musk would have to be on board.)

Even were they find a way to communicate via text or voice to the media, at the end of the day, without the shock value of the constant stream of footage from "journalists" sympathetic to Hamas and Hamas's communication network, the story won't generate views, and therefore revenue, to the media outlets.

If the US stance is as many here assume, which is that Biden instinctively sides with Israel but is beginning to realize that he must contend with the left flank of his voter base possibly staying home if this war (with his support) carries on much longer, this would be the perfect strategy to ease up some of the public pressure from the halls of "academia."

The only logical argument for a different outcome that comes up for me right now is that when Jews are involved, things seem to be different. The world at times seems to be obsessed with its Jews and there may be hatred so strong that won't let this this story die no matter whether it's profitable or not.

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