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Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2023, 12:49:04 PM »
What? are you for real??? Did no one read the resolution they signed on?I do.
I didn't read it but I am not obsessed with the UN. If you want to post a link, I will read it.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2023, 12:56:00 PM »
Didn't some countries state it was rejected because it did not include a statement about the innocent civilians in Gaza being killed?

Look I am wore out trying to point out the other side which I disagree with. You all should watch news that you know is anti-Israel to try at least to understand their point even when it is wrong.
Israel has already been condemned for that countless times, the one time almost everyone can agree that Hamas needs to be condemned  they shoot it down and cheer while doing so.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2023, 01:01:06 PM »
I didn't read it but I am not obsessed with the UN. If you want to post a link, I will read it.
After operative paragraph 1, Canada wanted to insert the following paragraph:
 
"Unequivocally rejects and condemns the terrorist attacks by Hamas that took
place in Israel starting on 7 October 2023 and the taking of hostages, demands the
safety,  well-being  and  humane  treatment  of  the  hostages  in  compliance  with
international law, and calls for their immediate and unconditional release
;"

This wasn't simply rejected; it was applauded. Think about that. They applauded a rejection to demanding humane treatment for hostages.

Here's a direct link to the resolution: https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/LTD/N23/319/20/PDF/N2331920.pdf

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2023, 01:26:50 PM »
After operative paragraph 1, Canada wanted to insert the following paragraph:
 
"Unequivocally rejects and condemns the terrorist attacks by Hamas that took
place in Israel starting on 7 October 2023 and the taking of hostages, demands the
safety,  well-being  and  humane  treatment  of  the  hostages  in  compliance  with
international law, and calls for their immediate and unconditional release
;"

This wasn't simply rejected; it was applauded. Think about that. They applauded a rejection to demanding humane treatment for hostages.

Here's a direct link to the resolution: https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/LTD/N23/319/20/PDF/N2331920.pdf
What do you say to the person who voted against it because it didn't also mention the killing of innocent civilians in Gaza?

In congress there will probably be a vote for aid for Israel that some will vote against. Does the reason matter why they will vote against it?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2023, 01:27:02 PM »
How about a metric that favors no one?

If you want voting rights, you must earn it. For instance, if you are involved in a conflict, you don't get to vote or condemn other conflicts. Except, if you have the UN's backing. YES, that includes the USA and Israel.

And so on for every issue. You can't violate something yourself and condemn others at the same time. It's absurd. How does Russia get to vote on a resolution calling for immediate truce in Gaza while being at war with another country? (that the UN itself has condemned) This is moronic.

I don't think ANYONE, including those who are on the Palestinian side, think that the UN is anything but a political show.

Do you realize how much corruption and self-interest exists in the UN? You think all parties will agree to your definitions of these things, let alone the rules? It’s always the other side that’s the perpetrator.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2023, 01:34:38 PM »
What do you say to the person who voted against it because it didn't also mention the killing of innocent civilians in Gaza?

In congress there will probably be a vote for aid for Israel that some will vote against. Does the reason matter why they will vote against it?
Israel has already been condemned for that countless times, the one time almost everyone can agree that Hamas needs to be condemned  they shoot it down and cheer while doing so.
Pathetic

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2023, 01:47:29 PM »
You wanted that to pass?
This is the resolution that DID in fact pass.

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2023, 01:49:25 PM »
This is the resolution that DID in fact pass.
Yes and no way with or without the addition would I have voted for it. Would you have?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2023, 02:04:26 PM »
Yes and no way with or without the addition would I have voted for it. Would you have?

But please explain why the amendment to make it slightly less anti-semitic should have been rejected from anything other than an anti-semitic point of view. All it did was add a tiny little bit of condemnation for the barbaric attacks.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2023, 02:12:31 PM »
But please explain...
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2023, 11:32:04 AM »
Is he wrong?
I can think of some that are probably worse.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2023, 11:32:42 AM »
I can think of some that are probably worse.
Ok, one of the most ;)

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2023, 03:17:49 PM »
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UN human rights official quits over "genocide" in Gaza and blames the West
From CNN's Richard Roth

A United Nations human rights official is leaving his job over what he calls a "genocide" in Gaza that the UN has failed to stop.

Craig Mokhiber, the director of the UN's New York Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, said in a letter that Gaza is a textbook case of genocide. Mokhiber said he lived in Gaza working on human rights for the UN in the 90s.

He accused the United States, the United Kingdom and European countries of giving political and diplomatic cover for Israel’s atrocities.

In the letter, which began with a statement acknowledging it would be his last official communication in his position, Mokhiber wrote that after witnessing what happened in Rwanda, Bosnia, and to Rohingya civilians in Myanmar, the UN has repeatedly failed to stop genocide.

“High Commissioner, we are failing again,” he added. The letter was sent to the UN’s human rights chief Volker Turk in Geneva.

The UN Secretary-General press secretary said Mokhiber is retiring as of Tuesday.

CNN has reached out to Mokhiber for comment

CNN's John Tara contributed reporting to this pos
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2023, 01:34:44 AM »
I would like to see a new poll:

Should we first drop a warning "knock" bomb on the UN, or should we flatten it without warning them first?