About that "jewish" wedding

[Alexsei]

Hmmm technically they can't get divorced...

But we shouldn't hate them we should hate their sins.

יתמו חטאים ולא חוטאים

[moko]

Ok. So much to say.... Therefore won't say much at all.
I figured in Boston Philly, or Seattle this was an unfortunate reality but was shocked to see it so mainstream.
To the comments about it be sakanas nefashos, I guess they missed the part about aryos being yeherag ve'al ya'avor

[moko]

Hmmm technically they can't get divorced...

But we shouldn't hate them we should hate their sins.

יתמו חטאים ולא חוטאים

yes but then there the issue of חוטיא ומחטיא which likely applies to anyone normalizing and/or promoting/celebrating

[Dan]

Ok. So much to say.... Therefore won't say much at all.

[imayid2]

I guess they missed the part about aryos being yeherag ve'al ya'avor

Not sure if that applies to 2 women

[Alexsei]

yes but then there the issue of חוטיא ומחטיא which likely applies to anyone normalizing and/or promoting/celebrating

True, I know that nowadays "hate" has a new meaning, and unequivocally applies to any negative comment about the issue at hand, having said that:

Mussar isn't hate
Disgust isn't hate
Revulsion isn't hate
Aversion isn't hate
Sicken isn't hate
Unsupportive isn't hate
Frustration isn't hate
Disapproval isn't hate
Disagreement isn't hate


I don't think anyone has any business cursing them unless maybe a beis din

[moko]

Not sure if that applies to 2 women

[yitzgar]

Like I said, discussing it feeding right into their hands. Best to ignore it. I agree with above posters that the general topic needs to be discussed as it Rachmana litzlan seems like it will be a nisayon for the (next)? generation

[Alexsei]

אומר רבי צדוק הכהן מלובלין ע״פ הזהר שנשמות דור המבול התגלגלו פעם שניה לעולם בדור המדבר מקבלי התורה. ויתגלגלו פעם שלישית לעולם בדורו של משיח. ואז יהיה התיקון הגמור, כוחות הטוב יגברו על הרע ויהפכו אותו לטוב (צדקת הצדיק צה)

[Euclid]

6-7 years ago I mentioned to a couple askanim that the frum organizations need to start publicly addressing how to deal with LGBTQ in the frum community on a practical level. It seemed to fall on deaf ears. :/

[chevron]

Ok. So much to say.... Therefore won't say much at all.
I figured in Boston Philly, or Seattle this was an unfortunate reality but was shocked to see it so mainstream.
To the comments about it be sakanas nefashos, I guess they missed the part about aryos being yeherag ve'al ya'avor

Really ?!? This is what vexes me... People playing God.

What part of the Torah says that female homosexuality is aryos?

Not in any part of yk reading .. it says

ואת זכר לא תשכב משכבי אשה תועבה הוא

I hate when people start taking stuff that's miderabanan and making it yehareg v'al yaavor

[moko]

Really ?!? This is what vexes me... People playing God.

What part of the Torah says that female homosexuality is aryos?

Not in any part of yk reading .. it says

ואת זכר לא תשכב משכבי אשה תועבה הוא

I hate when people start taking stuff that's miderabanan and making it yehareg v'al yaavor

you clearly missed the boat despite it being spelled out.
But I'll let you have your indignant ignorant moment in the sun once again

[Alexsei]

Really ?!? This is what vexes me... People playing God.

What part of the Torah says that female homosexuality is aryos?

Not in any part of yk reading .. it says

ואת זכר לא תשכב משכבי אשה תועבה הוא

I hate when people start taking stuff that's miderabanan and making it yehareg v'al yaavor

לדעת רוב הפוסקים איסור משכב זכר נחשב כגילוי עריות, שהוא אחד משלושת האיסורים שחל עליהם דין ייהרג ואל יעבור

[imayid2]

I hate when people start taking stuff that's miderabanan and making it yehareg v'al yaavor

כמעשה ארץ מצרים
ובחוקותיהם
are reasons for דאורייתא according to many.

[chevron]

לדעת רוב הפוסקים איסור משכב זכר נחשב כגילוי עריות, שהוא אחד משלושת האיסורים שחל עליהם דין ייהרג ואל יעבור

And zachor and nekeyva are the same?

[Lurker]

So... are they allowed to drink on their wedding night?

[chevron]

כמעשה ארץ מצרים
ובחוקותיהם
are reasons for דאורייתא according to many.

So this may fall out as masse mitzrayim.. and then you'd stretch this as giluy aryos and yehareg v'al yaavor too.

[chevron]

Is a male who sexually molests a male, giluy aryos for which yehareg v'al yaavor?

There are plenty of those in the frum community getting aliyos and what not... Certainly no big deal apparently only if they are 2 girls

[imayid2]

So this may fall out as masse mitzrayim.. and then you'd stretch this as giluy aryos and yehareg v'al yaavor too.

They are promoting all the letters that come after the L too which is indeed giluy aryos

[imayid2]

Is a male who sexually molests a male, giluy aryos for which yehareg v'al yaavor?

There are plenty of those in the frum community getting aliyos and what not... Certainly no big deal apparently only if they are 2 girls

Do you not see the difference between a celebration of "marriage" and the above?
Cmon now.