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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2820 on: May 23, 2024, 05:29:59 PM »
i need actual sim chip what is not e-sim ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2821 on: May 23, 2024, 06:21:08 PM »
i need actual sim chip what is not e-sim ?

Look on amazon and ebay then...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2822 on: May 26, 2024, 11:44:03 AM »
Hi,
I am planning to go to st moritz for the end of August, and would like to know where I can get an engadin pass, I know I will only get it for free from an hotel but I am willing to pay for it.
Which card is the best?
Where can I get it?
Thank you.

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« Reply #2823 on: May 26, 2024, 07:12:51 PM »
Hi,
I am planning to go to st moritz for the end of August, and would like to know where I can get an engadin pass, I know I will only get it for free from an hotel but I am willing to pay for it.
Which card is the best?
Where can I get it?
Thank you.
https://www.engadin.ch/en/summer-tariffs-mountain-railways-hiking-pass/

Read the details. Kids under 17 are greatly reduced or free with this.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2824 on: May 27, 2024, 08:53:19 AM »
Is there a place to buy kosher food in saas fee? Anything more then the food you can buy in denner or coop?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2825 on: May 27, 2024, 01:38:05 PM »
Hi,
I'm looking to plan a trip with my husband this Summer in the month of July.  We want to spend about 2 weeks in the areas of Italy, Switzerland and Venice.  We will be flying to Israel hopefully after that. 
1.is it worthwhile to rent a car or can we get around with trains?
2. If we rent a car: I was told its very expensive to pick up the rental at one location and return to another.  Is this true?
If it is, what makes sense for us to choose as the city to land in? 
3.Is the following a good route: land in Zurich, tour that area, travel to Venice, travel to Cranzei (My Kosher Hotel), travel to St. Moritz, travel back to Zurich and leave from there to Israel?
4.anyone have current kosher lists for Switzerland and Italy
5.recommendations for kosher hotels in or around these areas or restaurants
6.I might consider paying someone to help organize this for me if the price is reasonable
7.Any ideas where I can get a Sim that has incoming and outgoing calls to USA from all locations as well as data?

Thanks!

Zurich is a beautiful town. If the weather is nice, walking along the lake or taking the boat is a dream. Or walking along the river behind the train station! Then you have the old town of Zurich, which has houses that once belonged to the Jews dated 1300.  There's even a house with some of the 86 coat of arms all with Jewish inscriptions dated 1300 ! Take a walk through the original medieval sewage system. Enter the house which was once a famous Jeshive in Europe date 1300
For a short stay there are Jewish appartments for rental

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2826 on: May 27, 2024, 09:47:09 PM »
Is there a place to buy kosher food in saas fee? Anything more then the food you can buy in denner or coop?

No

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2827 on: May 27, 2024, 10:45:34 PM »
Thank you!
Is there a way to order dairy products from zürich?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2828 on: Yesterday at 08:20:41 PM »
I got a speeding ticket by camera a few years back while visiting switzerland. i didnt pay as its an outrageous amount. Will I have issues if I return to switzerland when i present my passport by customs? what about other EU countries , do they work together?

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« Reply #2829 on: Yesterday at 09:43:33 PM »
Thank you!
Is there a way to order dairy products from zürich?

I don't believe so. Are you flying into ZRH? If so it's easy to go into town and pick up dairy items at the kosher grocery prior to heading up to Saas Fee.

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« Reply #2830 on: Yesterday at 10:03:08 PM »
Thank you!
Is there a way to order dairy products from zürich?
The grocery may ship to you if you pay for the post. The butcher offers this.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2831 on: Today at 12:39:23 AM »
I got a speeding ticket by camera a few years back while visiting switzerland. i didnt pay as its an outrageous amount. Will I have issues if I return to switzerland when i present my passport by customs? what about other EU countries , do they work together?

If you fly back into Switzerland, you will be let in, but you will be forced to pay the speeding fine on the spot.  It's not enforced by immigration of other EU countries yet. However, Switzerland does work with other EU countries, and has bilateral agreements - enforcing that other EU countries can enforce and collect the fines of their citizens. 

Also, starting in 2025, foreign travelers heading to Europe/Schengen will need to obtain pre-travel authorization (ETIAS). Consequently, it's likely you will be denied, as your name would then be flagged in a central database, and Switzerland treats speeding as a criminal offense.