CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS

[aygart]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-tees-up-votes-on-ukraine-and-israel-aid-as-speaker-johnson-defies-his-right-flank/ar-AA1nj8hE
House tees up votes on Ukraine and Israel aid as Speaker Johnson defies his right flank

Speaker Mike Johnson, facing intense opposition from right-wing members, received crucial help from Democrats to move forward with the votes. More Democrats (165) than Republicans (151) voted to pass the “rule,” a procedural step to set up the votes.

That is not surprising considering how it includes Ukraine aid which many Rs are against.
Either way, the fact check on the amendment ir that his statement was true.

[CountValentine]

That is not surprising considering how it includes Ukraine aid which many Rs are against.

Maybe they are closet antisemites and using Ukraine as a smoke screen?
Wonder if they are MAGA, hmmm.

[aygart]

Maybe they are closet antisemites and using Ukraine as a smoke screen?
Wonder if they are MAGA, hmmm.

Well, how did they vote on the stand-alone Israel bill that the Senate rejected?

[CountValentine]

Well, how did they vote on the stand-alone Israel bill that the Senate rejected?

Lets wait and see now that Johnson did the right thing with the help of the D's and not the MAGA R's.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/us/politics/democrats-vote-ukraine-bill.html

"The action was unfolding only hours after Republicans banded together with Democrats to take a major step Thursday night toward bringing up the bill. A 9-to-3 bipartisan vote in the Rules Committee was the part of the convoluted process the House is expected to go through over the next couple of days to approve the $95 billion aid package. It reflected the extent of far-right anger over Speaker Mike Johnson’s plan to push through the legislation over the opposition of ultraconservative Republicans, and underscored how heavily the speaker is relying on Democrats to push it across the finish line."

No need to ask. 3 no votes were from R's.

"The rule is critical to Mr. Johnson’s plan to push the foreign aid package through the House, because it would allow separate votes on aid to Israel and aid to Ukraine, which are supported by different coalitions, but then would fold them together without requiring lawmakers to cast an up-or-down vote on the entire bill."

[smurf]

Semantics. It is the opposing person/group. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

He was there to instigate, plain and simple. Now he wants a counter march calling it a walk. Let's get real here.

I can't speak to his truest intentions but yes, he was being provocative, but he was trying to make a point, which is that these so called "Safe" protests are about as safe for jews as (checks notes..) A BLM protest is to a guy with a MAGA hat and back the blue shirt.

Do you think it is okay to allow protests that are a threat to ordinary citizens simply because of their religion or the way they look?
Also these protests are popping up everywhere, how far are we from an official stay at home order for jews?

[CountValentine]

Do you think it is okay to allow protests that are a threat to ordinary citizens simply because of their religion or the way they look?

Of course not. There are a ton of examples, but this isn't one of them.

It is very easy for a peaceful protest to become violent. I am with the police on this one.

[CountValentine]

Also these protests are popping up everywhere, how far are we from an official stay at home order for jews?

The advice I would give to my kids about any protest. If you are part of the protest is one thing. If you are not, then stay away from it.

[Dan]

Has everyone lost their mind. Forget about Israel/Hamas.

Lets make it BLM and Blue Lives Matter.

There is a march supporting BLM down the street. I have a Blue Lives Matter sign on my head. I want to cross right through the march. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

You have a ton of situations to prove your point. Someone trying to instigate trouble is not one of them!!!

Are they protesting Jews or Zionists?

The advice I would give to my kids about any protest. If you are part of the protest is one thing. If you are not, then stay away from it.

100%, but let's not pretend these aren't anti-semitic in nature.

[CountValentine]

Are they protesting Jews or Zionists?

I don't know what they are protesting.

[EliJelly]

I don't know what they are protesting.

Can you even fathom protesting Jews??

[CountValentine]

Maybe @Dan will come back from the dark side. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-vetoes-un-bid-to-make-palestine-a-full-member-of-world-body/ar-AA1ngiZa?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=562e814259f04fcb84ceb3e14bfdd358&ei=18
US Vetoes UN Bid to Make Palestine a Full Member of World Body

DON"T

[CountValentine]

Why tweets like this are meaningless and serve no useful purpose. Any moron can have an amendment. Not useful to the war discussions.

https://twitter.com/RitchieTorres/status/1781324718554919365?

https://twitter.com/juliegraceb/status/1780746806692859936?

[Just A Jew]

I don't know what they are protesting.

Israel and Gaza. The fact the looking like a Jew automatically makes you "the opposing side" shows that the protests have a lot more to do with Jews in general than the world is ready to admit, because if we're ok with protesting against anyone who looks like a Jew, we're back in Nazi Germany.

[CountValentine]

Israel and Gaza. The fact the looking like a Jew automatically makes you "the opposing side" shows that the protests have a lot more to do with Jews in general than the world is ready to admit, because if we're ok with protesting against anyone who looks like a Jew, we're back in Nazi Germany.

Let's call it a pro-Hamas protest since most believe that anyway.
If a visible Jew shows up to that protest what in the real world do you expect. Any normal person will look at them as the opposing side. 

If there was a pro-Israel protest and a visible Palestinian shows up, he is automatically the opposite side.

[yelped]

So you don't care if it is accurate or not? As long as anything supports your narrative you post it?

Is this a court where I have to double check that the chain of evidence is there? Ritchie Torres is a not a Palestinian with a history of lying.

[yelped]

Semantics. It is the opposing person/group. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

He was there to instigate, plain and simple. Now he wants a counter march calling it a walk. Let's get real here.

Where is the missing the point gif? This is why I feel like Chaim here.

[Just A Jew]

Let's call it a pro-Hamas protest since most believe that anyway.
If a visible Jew shows up to that protest what in the real world do you expect. Any normal person will look at them as the opposing side. 

If there was a pro-Israel protest and a visible Palestinian shows up, he is automatically the opposite side.

If in the real world I can expect violence, then in the real world I expect people to call it what it is... and police to act accordingly.

And if a Palestinian showed up to a pro-Israel march, not a single cop in the world would worry for his safety.

(Which should lead you to ask a few questions... Who are these violent people who support Palestine? Why are there so many of them? What are we doing about it? Should Jews around the world be worried for their future?)

[CountValentine]

Is this a court where I have to double check that the chain of evidence is there? Ritchie Torres is a not a Palestinian with a history of lying.

No but just a simple Google search helps. Lying and slanting to give a false narrative is not the same.

[CountValentine]

Where is the missing the point gif? This is why I feel like Chaim here.

We all get the point Jews are being singled out. You are missing the point this is a terrible example. It is an example of a Jew trying to instigate something.

[CountValentine]

If in the real world I can expect violence, then in the real world I expect people to call it what it is... and police to act accordingly.

I am with you.
This was just a terrible example. It was an example of someone trying to instigate.