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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1860 on: June 30, 2015, 03:50:17 PM »
I didn't ask nothing about affecting , I want to avoid getting points on my license even it just in nj and if there is a way

Tnx
(Just trying to explain him)
I think he meant that because your license is from NY and the points are from NJ, then NJ doesn't have how/where to process it on. so it basically stays hanging in the air (metaphor....) and it never goes onto your license.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1861 on: June 30, 2015, 03:52:24 PM »
(Just trying to explain him)
I think he meant that because your license is from NY and the points are from NJ, then NJ doesn't have how/where to process it on. so it basically stays hanging in the air (metaphor....) and it never goes onto your license.
NJ still has their own records and can revoke a NY driver's privilege in their (NJ) state.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1862 on: June 30, 2015, 03:58:54 PM »
(Just trying to explain him)
I think he meant that because your license is from NY and the points are from NJ, then NJ doesn't have how/where to process it on. so it basically stays hanging in the air (metaphor....) and it never goes onto your license.
Exactly

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1863 on: June 30, 2015, 04:00:07 PM »
NJ still has their own records and can revoke a NY driver's privilege in their (NJ) state.
never heard if that, but then you have to know how many points does that, and how long does it stay on their records.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1864 on: June 30, 2015, 04:09:49 PM »
NJ still has their own records and can revoke a NY driver's privilege in their (NJ) state.
You sure of this?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1865 on: June 30, 2015, 04:18:15 PM »
You sure of this?
Sure about revocation ability (happened to a friend of mine).  not sure about the points or how they decide.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1866 on: June 30, 2015, 04:41:38 PM »
Sure about revocation ability (happened to a friend of mine).  not sure about the points or how they decide.


That is a scofflaw finding, not a traffic ticket conviction. There are other exceptions as well, such as CDL license and DWIs.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1867 on: June 30, 2015, 05:11:28 PM »
But isn't it true that after a certain amount of time (like 3 years in NY) insurance can't take them into account?

Yes, Car insurance companies in NY are restricted to only looking at convictions which are on the "three year record" (See the wiki about this). However this has nothing to do with the 5 hour course.

I have a NJ license which is temporary as i only had a visa in the US and i got a ticket in NY which i paid in full. I recently got in the mail the $300 Driver assesment Fee. Does anyone know if i need to pay it? My actual license expires in a year and its not as if i can renew it. But i dont want to get messed up as i may want to move there one day.

You are required to pay it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/DriverRespAssessment/ or the next time that you drive in NYS you can be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor.

a friend got 4 tickets (at one time) in Monsey.

not stopping at a stop sign
failure to signal (x2)
unregistered vehicle

what is he up against? what are his options?

He is looking at 7 points and over $1000 in fines. He can plead it down somewhat by himself, or hire an attorney to represent him.

Got a ticket in nj for careless driving , is it points? Is it worth to take a lawyer ? Do they do plea bargains in paramus nj? Ny license

The state of NJ does not record traffic convictions for drivers from other states. The local traffic court does record the conviction on its internal record, however it is questionable how this conviction will hurt you. While a local NJ judge can suspend your NJ driving privileges, this is a very rare penalty, even for convictions of speeding 100 MPH. Your careless driving ticket is a considered a minor traffic infraction.

Unless you have a CDL, you should either plead it down yourself or just pay it.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1868 on: June 30, 2015, 05:21:22 PM »
NJ still has their own records and can revoke a NY driver's privilege in their (NJ) state.
Have you ever seen it happen and what were the circumstances?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1869 on: June 30, 2015, 05:26:28 PM »
Have you ever seen it happen and what were the circumstances?
Don't know his details I just know I had to switch seats   I can ask him.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1870 on: June 30, 2015, 05:41:17 PM »
I didn't ask nothing about affecting , I want to avoid getting points on my license even it just in nj and if there is a way

Tnx
what he is saying is that you wont get points, it wont show in nj that you ever got them

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1871 on: June 30, 2015, 05:44:05 PM »
Don't know his details I just know I had to switch seats   I can ask him.
please do we all would like to know

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1872 on: June 30, 2015, 05:49:35 PM »
Have you ever seen it happen and what were the circumstances?
I was a passenger in a car when this did happen to the driver being stopped in nj , with a ny license , it was in middle of the night with a full van with family and he was kind and just turned his back and let us go instead of arresting the driver , since there were no one in the car with license

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1873 on: June 30, 2015, 05:51:08 PM »
what he is saying is that you wont get points, it wont show in nj that you ever got them
I mean in nj I will have 2 points and have to wait 3 years to get it off ,am I wrong? Something I'm missing here

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1874 on: June 30, 2015, 05:52:56 PM »
@Hirshthg-are you saying that if someone gets points in NY (and has a NY license) and then takes a class to remove the points that it has no impact on insurance (only on suspension after 12 points)?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1875 on: June 30, 2015, 05:56:36 PM »
I mean in nj I will have 2 points and have to wait 3 years to get it off ,am I wrong? Something I'm missing here
if points transfer then you will have points in ny and nj if they dont then you will have no points giyf

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1876 on: June 30, 2015, 05:58:57 PM »
if points transfer then you will have points in ny and nj if they dont then you will have no points giyf
But I will have points in nj !! Yuck !

I'm trying to avoid any points in nj

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1877 on: June 30, 2015, 06:00:27 PM »
But I will have points in nj !! Yuck !

I'm trying to avoid any points in nj
why do you say that do you know for sure if the points transfer?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1878 on: June 30, 2015, 06:01:38 PM »
why do you say that do you know for sure if the points transfer?
Points not transferring into ny , but in nj itself its nj points on license

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1879 on: June 30, 2015, 06:03:48 PM »
Points not transferring into ny , but in nj itself its nj points on license
on a ny license?