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It wasn’t invented to describe where Jews lived. The area that became the Jewish ghetto was the local foundry, that’s how it came to be known as the gheto even before it was the Jewish area.
Nowhere does it say the term ghetto was used to refer to that area before it was designated as the Jewish Ghetto. Perhaps the term Ghetto to refer to the Jewish Ghetto came from the foundry there, but that doesn't contradict what I said IMO.

For example, If a group of Romulans get relocated next to a marble factory, and for 200 years they are called as living in the
Romulan Marbhel. And then other poor neighborhoods start getting called the Marbhel, that term was created for them. It has a whole new meaning from anything before it and anyone else using the term, is taking a piece of Romulan culture.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironclad_warship

An ironclad was a steam-propelled warship protected by steel or iron armor constructed from 1859 to the early 1890s. The ironclad was developed as a result of the vulnerability of wooden warships to explosive or incendiary shells. The first ironclad battleship, Gloire, was launched by the French Navy in November 1859, narrowly preempting the British Royal Navy. However, Britain built the first completely iron-hulled warships.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironclad_warship

An ironclad was a steam-propelled warship protected by steel or iron armor constructed from 1859 to the early 1890s. The ironclad was developed as a result of the vulnerability of wooden warships to explosive or incendiary shells. The first ironclad battleship, Gloire, was launched by the French Navy in November 1859, narrowly preempting the British Royal Navy. However, Britain built the first completely iron-hulled warships.
The ironclad is long obsolete.
Anyway, is he sending the USS Monitor or the USS Cairo?  ;D
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Nowhere does it say the term ghetto was used to refer to that area before it was designated as the Jewish Ghetto. Perhaps the term Ghetto to refer to the Jewish Ghetto came from the foundry there, but that doesn't contradict what I said IMO.

For example, If a group of Romulans get relocated next to a marble factory, and for 200 years they are called as living in the
Romulan Marbhel. And then other poor neighborhoods start getting called the Marbhel, that term was created for them. It has a whole new meaning from anything before it and anyone else using the term, is taking a piece of Romulan culture.

You said word, now you’re saying term.

The word wasn’t invented for this term, it predates it. The term (or additional definition for the word Ghetto) was invented for this purpose, but that isn’t what you said.
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You said word, now you’re saying term.

The word wasn’t invented for this term, it predates it. The term (or additional definition for the word Ghetto) was invented for this purpose, but that isn’t what you said.
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That is a pretty normal word.
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You missed a nit.

I did?

To be clear, the word Ghetto was literally invented to describe where Jews lived. The origin of the word Ghetto is undisputed.
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People who are believed to belong to the same genetic stock
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Don't we all come from the same genetic stock?
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Don't we all come from the same genetic stock?
Sure, further back still.
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Sure, further back still.
So we are all one race?
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So we are all one race?
Hence the phrase, "The human race."
Every other race designated is a particular genetic stock under that original one.
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Hence the phrase, "The human race."
Every other race designated is a particular genetic stock under that original one.
I had a feeling we were looking at "genetic stock" differently, so I Googled it. I was correct. The first thing that came up:
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