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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #220 on: April 21, 2024, 11:57:16 PM »
Didn't expect that from you.
I was writing an extreme statement that obviously you wouldn't say to show you what is going on here.

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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #221 on: April 22, 2024, 12:08:26 AM »
When people are deeply personal involved, they have a hard understand what they are even saying. I will leave it at that.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #222 on: April 22, 2024, 12:09:23 AM »
When people are deeply personal involved, they have a hard understand what they are even saying. I will leave it at that.
Agreed.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #224 on: April 25, 2024, 02:09:52 PM »
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #225 on: April 25, 2024, 02:16:32 PM »
Have they updated their charter?
Or did they mean a state from the river to the sea?

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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #226 on: April 25, 2024, 03:01:50 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-officials-say-group-willing-to-disarm-if-palestinian-state-is-established/ar-AA1nF3tp
Hamas officials say group willing to disarm if Palestinian state is established

Do you know that Hamas only started using the Palestinian flag in 2016 (IIRC, if I'm wrong it's still long after they took control of Gaza). Palestinian self determination has never been a goal of theirs. Ever. Like the flag they're using this as a plot to gain support.

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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #227 on: April 25, 2024, 03:05:53 PM »
Do you know that Hamas only started using the Palestinian flag in 2016 (IIRC, if I'm wrong it's still long after they took control of Gaza). Palestinian self determination has never been a goal of theirs. Ever. Like the flag they're using this as a plot to gain support.
PR game.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #228 on: April 25, 2024, 03:09:08 PM »
PR game.
Yup. And sad that people buy into pr moves made by the same scum who burn people alive.

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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #229 on: April 25, 2024, 03:11:03 PM »
Have they updated their charter?
Or did they mean a state from the river to the sea?
You need to be more specific. Hamas or the Likud party?  ;)
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #231 on: May 03, 2024, 10:32:51 AM »
You hear over and over that Israel is doing everything they can to limit civilian deaths. That compared to any other war they are accomplishing this. So, my question is how many civilians have been killed so far?
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #232 on: May 03, 2024, 10:37:26 AM »
You hear over and over that Israel is doing everything they can to limit civilian deaths. That compared to any other war they are accomplishing this. So, my question is how many civilians have been killed so far?
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/04/09/hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry-admits-to-flaws-in-casualty-data/
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/05/02/gaza-health-ministry-cannot-provide-names-for-more-than-10000-it-says-have-died/

That would make for about 24K dead, including at least 13K terrorists:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-says-least-13000-terrorists-among-palestinians-killed-2024-03-10/
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #233 on: May 03, 2024, 10:41:29 AM »
You hear over and over that Israel is doing everything they can to limit civilian deaths. That compared to any other war they are accomplishing this. So, my question is how many civilians have been killed so far?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67327079


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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #236 on: May 03, 2024, 10:48:20 AM »
Israel can be inflating the eliminated terrorist number or can be very liberal in who they are including.
Of course they are. They will also underestimate the number of civilians killed but we get some idea.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #237 on: May 03, 2024, 10:49:17 AM »
You hear over and over that Israel is doing everything they can to limit civilian deaths. That compared to any other war they are accomplishing this. So, my question is how many civilians have been killed so far?

It's a good question.
Just I'm really not sure why it's relevant out of context of each specific mission and campaign.
How many were human shields, mistaken identities, unknown that they were there, known that they would be in danger but the target was valuable enough, were in areas of announced fighting and chose not to leave...
Unless the idea is "well X amount per week means that you're OK and "doing enough", and more than that is "not acceptable""
Which is quite a stupid (and possibly anti-semetic) idea if I may say so.
I dont remember any other western (or any other!) force being judged on this metric ever - in real time or even post facto (aside from some moron leftists who hit on the US record in WWII)
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #238 on: May 03, 2024, 10:49:35 AM »
Of course they are. They will also underestimate the number of civilians killed but we get some idea.

Exactly. We can get a vague idea but we shouldn't think that Israel's number are the word of G-d.
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Re: CV's Copy - ISRAEL-HAMAS
« Reply #239 on: May 03, 2024, 10:51:41 AM »
Exactly. We can get a vague idea but we shouldn't think that Israel's number are the word of G-d.
Who said otherwise? We have ballpark numbers.

Hamas has produced 24K names. Israel says over 13K are terrorists.

Are those numbers rounded? Would some of those people have died of natural causes anyway? Of course.

But either way, they are historically low civilian death ratios for wartime.
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