Farewell Stephen Harper

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Free passes? I've never seen one from you. Time and time again you rile everyone up just so you can have your fun time. JUST STOP TROLLING and maybe keep the threads on topic for once!!!

Trolling? Saying the president is a self hating American and I am the one trolling? If you think I am trolling then you better put me on ignore because you haven't see anything yet. 

[David Smith]

Trolling? Saying the president is a self hating American and I am the one trolling? If you think I am trolling then you better put me on ignore because you haven't see anything yet. 

Saying people are self hating Americans for saying Obama isn't a courageous leader?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Saying people are self hating Americans for saying Obama isn't a courageous leader?

You called the president a self hating American. That's what happens when you troll. You can't even remember what you said. 

[David Smith]

You called the president a self hating American. That's what happens when you troll. You can't even remember what you said. 

Read back. Who started calling people self hating Americans? Now what was that last line you said about trolls?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Wrong. Read back. Who started calling people self hating Americans? Now what was that last line you said about trolls?

I said you called the president a self hating American. Stop with all the BS.

Are you one of those self hating Americans?

Nope. Our leader is, though.

[Yitz]

Yep, he will be missed. I think this is sad not only for Israel also for Canada.

[David Smith]

I said you called the president a self hating American. Stop with all the BS.

You called me a self hating American first, as you just quoted. And Obama hates America when it's not good for the blacks, the same way you're calling us hating America when it's not good for Israel or us. It's not called hating, it's called wanting to change. (I can almost predict your response.)

[jj1000]

CM seems to be confusing democracy with monarchy. It's a common misconception that you have to support the president to be American.

And on topic stinks Harper lost. But can't expect a conservative to stay in for too long, he had a good 10 years.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

You called me a self hating American first, as you just quoted. And Obama hates America when it's not good for the blacks, the same way you're calling us hating America when it's not good for Israel or us. It's not called hating, it's called wanting to change. (I can almost predict your response.)

I asked you a question. Do you know the difference? Don't try and confused the issue. This is about you calling the president a self hating American. Like I said no more free passes. You either back up your statement or retract it. I will hound you to the end of the earth until you do.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

CM seems to be confusing democracy with monarchy. It's a common misconception that you have to support the president to be American.

I am not confusing anything and you know it. Disagreeing with someone and making a baseless claim they are self hating are not the same thing. There is someone confused and if you want to know whom go find a mirror. 

[lunatic]

I am not confusing anything and you know it. Disagreeing with someone and making a baseless claim they are self hating are not the same thing. There is someone confused and if you want to know whom go find a mirror. 

Is today Friday?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Is today Friday?

You want to bad mouth the US then everyday is going to be Friday around here. 

[yakrot]

You want to bad mouth the US then everyday is going to be Friday around here. 

I understand that you want to "hound him" until he backs up his statement or retracts it.

What I want to know is what he said so wrong that prompted you to ask if he is a self hating American?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

What I want to know is what he said so wrong that prompted you to ask if he is a self hating American?

From his posts he seems not to happy with the US. That is why I asked if he was a US citizen and subsequently a self hating American. Never did I call him a self hating American.

[yochiek93]

From his posts he seems not to happy with the US. That is why I asked if he was a US citizen and subsequently a self hating American. Never did I call him a self hating American.

Being unhappy is not hating going against what's good for the country is hating

[David Smith]

From his posts he seems not to happy with the US. That is why I asked if he was a US citizen and subsequently a self hating American. Never did I call him a self hating American.

I can bring many examples of Obama saying he is unhappy with things in America. You said being unhappy with things in America makes you a self hating American, i therefore said our leader is. He was definitely worse for America than i was.

[David Smith]

Are you one of those self hating Americans?

Are you a US citizen?

Are you a US citizen?

Thanks. Just making a list of those who pretend their first loyalty is to the US.

But you just asked, right? You never called anyone disloyal Americans.

[David Smith]

I love when someone sticks there foot in their mouth and doesn't even know it. 

Bias means partiality prejudice, or predisposition, whether for or against.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

But you just asked, right?

Yes I asked but you still are trying to deflect and it is not going to work. You called the president a self hating American. Either back it up or retract it. Try and spin it anyway you want but it is still going to come back to this. No more free passes. What part of that don't you understand?

[springles]

This discussion is silly and way off topic but let me share my opinion anyway. 
I feel the phrase self hating is being thrown around here with little attention paid to the meaning.  If someone does not like the policies of a president that doesnt make them self hating.  If someone doesnt like the president that doesnt make them self hating.  A president that has views that you disagree with is also not self hating. 

I think CM is feeling frustrated with the general focus of many of us on America's policy towards Israel taking a front seat to their opinions on American policies other than that.  If that is the contention then I am not sure why he is surprised.  Speaking for myself, while I am an American I am loyal to Israel.  i dont consider that to be a contradiction as I see the 2 countries as aligned (or rather they should be) in every way.  Whats good for Israel is good for the US.