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David Smith · « **Reply #5540 on:** October 11, 2015, 08:57:38 AM »

Early this morning.

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #5541 on:** October 11, 2015, 10:07:37 AM »

Reb Moshe was only matir a hand gun. NOT a rifle.

Ergel · « **Reply #5542 on:** October 11, 2015, 10:52:26 AM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on October 11, 2015, 10:07:37 AM

Reb Moshe was only matir a hand gun. NOT a rifle.

And therefore it must mean that he held that you can't live in the gush

good sam · « **Reply #5543 on:** October 11, 2015, 11:02:52 AM »

I wonder if he would have differentiated between living in the shtachim and living among the Arabs such as in chevron or east jlem/Arab quarter.

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #5544 on:** October 11, 2015, 11:13:06 AM »

Reb Moshe was not asked, and therefore did not address where, or whether or not ppl should live.

He was asked whether the woman who live there may or may not carry handguns.
He answered this question.

To infer that reb Moshe held that people should live in a makom sakana is preposterous, disingenuous, inaccurate and halachically unprecedented.

If you interested in R Moshe's shita on the mitzva of yishuv EY you will have to look elsewhere.

Ergel · « **Reply #5545 on:** October 11, 2015, 11:27:21 AM »

1. I never said Rav Moshe said you should live there.
2. If Rav moshe felt it was assur to live there I doubt he would have answered a question about it. (Imagine someone asking a question if he could use a birth control while sleeping with an eishes ish, you think he would have answered?
3. Interestingly, you weren't asked your opinion and yet offered it

aygart · « **Reply #5546 on:** October 11, 2015, 01:35:16 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on October 11, 2015, 11:27:21 AM

1. I never said Rav Moshe said you should live there.
2. If Rav moshe felt it was assur to live there I doubt he would have answered a question about it. (Imagine someone asking a question if he could use a birth control while sleeping with an eishes ish, you think he would have answered?
3. Interestingly, you weren't asked your opinion and yet offered it

there is also the possibility that he felt they would not listen to him either way about whether or not to live there.

dovy2 · « **Reply #5547 on:** October 11, 2015, 01:54:26 PM »

I remember a sicha where the rebbe said that if everyone would populate all settlement and border areas, the Arabs would be scared to do anything

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #5548 on:** October 11, 2015, 01:57:23 PM »

Quote from: aygart on October 11, 2015, 01:35:16 PM

there is also the possibility that he felt they would not listen to him either way about whether or not to live there.

Quote from: Ergel on October 11, 2015, 11:27:21 AM

(Imagine someone asking a question if he could use a birth control while sleeping with an eishes ish, you think he would have answered if he felt the guy wouldn't listen to him anyways?)

David Smith · « **Reply #5549 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:07:33 PM »

Quote from: dovy2 on October 11, 2015, 01:54:26 PM

I remember a sicha where the rebbe said that if everyone would populate all settlement and border areas, the Arabs would be scared to do anything

And Rav Shach said about that...

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #5550 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:08:39 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on October 11, 2015, 01:57:23 PM

+1

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #5551 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:17:51 PM »

Quote from: David Smith on October 11, 2015, 02:07:33 PM

And Rav Shach said about that...

Please, it's only Sunday...

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #5552 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:20:10 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on October 11, 2015, 02:17:51 PM

Please, it's only Sunday...

+1

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #5553 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:21:06 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on October 11, 2015, 02:17:51 PM

Please, it's only Sunday...

Couldn't have chosen a better day...

aygart · « **Reply #5554 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:32:35 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on October 11, 2015, 11:27:21 AM

1. I never said Rav Moshe said you should live there.
2. If Rav moshe felt it was assur to live there I doubt he would have answered a question about it. (Imagine someone asking a question if he could use a birth control while sleeping with an eishes ish, you think he would have answered?
3. Interestingly, you weren't asked your opinion and yet offered it

Quote from: Achas Veachas on October 11, 2015, 01:57:23 PM

so you guys really think that is a comparison?

Ergel · « **Reply #5555 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:33:23 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on October 11, 2015, 02:20:10 PM

+1

And yet you can't respond to the actual argument

Ergel · « **Reply #5556 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:33:37 PM »

Quote from: aygart on October 11, 2015, 02:32:35 PM

so you guys really think that is a comparison?

That's exactly the point

David Smith · « **Reply #5557 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:35:03 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on October 11, 2015, 02:17:51 PM

Please, it's only Sunday...

Quote from: Work-for-ur-muny on October 11, 2015, 02:21:06 PM

Couldn't have chosen a better day...

aygart · « **Reply #5558 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on October 11, 2015, 02:33:37 PM

That's exactly the point

Then I guess you really do need this spoonfed. There is no tzad to say mutav shyehu shogegin regarding an eishes ish while even if you would consider living in these areas a full fledged issur on the level of eishes ish it is still not mefurash bikra and we would say mutav... Now I am not saying that it is on that level and does not need to be on that level to say that "daas torah" would prefer they not live there in the first place. I am not even sure CBC is correct in his point, but it is ridiculous to make the comparison you are making.

Ergel · « **Reply #5559 on:** October 11, 2015, 02:53:10 PM »

Vnishmartem meod lenafshoseichem is not nefurash bakra?