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[Lurker]

An attack on any person is scary.
We can play with numbers all you want.
No other group has been persecuted in this country like the blacks have.

The Natives would like to disagree.

[Yehuda57]

You can move on to anything you want. I don't support Biden or am I here to defend him. I gave you my view of both candidates. You don't agree and that is fine.

The issue is not as much your view of the candidates, but of their supporters.

[CountValentine]

And yet, as a Jew I have a much greater chance of being attacked than any Black person.

Tell that to the mothers in the inner city that have buried their children. How many have you buried?
You really want to go down this road?

[CountValentine]

The issue is not as much your view of the candidates, but of their supporters.

People get conned all the time. How many scams over the years have been posted on this forum alone?
I was conned myself.

[Yehuda57]

Tell that to the mothers in the inner city that have buried their children. How many have you buried?
You really want to go down this road?

You're confusing bias crimes with all violent crime.

[CountValentine]

The Natives would like to disagree.

They can disagree all they want.
So we narrowed it down to the blacks and natives who have been persecuted more. Which side you want? 

[AsherO]

Tell that to the mothers in the inner city that have buried their children. How many have you buried?
You really want to go down this road?

How many of them are killed due to drug/gang violence and what is BLM doing about that?

[Chapshnell]

Tell that to the mothers in the inner city that have buried their children. How many have you buried?
You really want to go down this road?

Does black on black violence matter? To me it does. Black lives matter! All of them!

[CountValentine]

You're confusing bias crimes with all violent crime.

How many of them are killed due to drug/gang violence and what is BLM doing about that?

Does black on black violence matter? To me it does. Black lives matter! All of them!

When someone loses a child you think any of this matters to them, unbelievable!

[Lurker]

When someone loses a child you think any of this matters to them, unbelievable!

You're right. We should include car accidents, cancer, and overdoses, too.

[CountValentine]

You're right. We should include car accidents, cancer, and overdoses, too.

I lost all respect for you. You claimed the other night you back me up when I am right. You knew I was right when I said there is more hate crime against blacks than any other group. You seen the FBI stats.

For the record, the black that lives a block over from me is ten times more likely to be a victim of a hate crime than the Jew that lives on my block!!!

[TimT]

the black that lives a block over from me is ten times more likely to be a victim of a hate crime

Perpetrated by who ?

[CountValentine]

Perpetrated by who ?

I will let the FBI answer that so if you have an issue you can call them.

A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.

[TimT]

You didn’t answer the question. Are the blacks a block away from you victims of “ criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity“ ?
If yes, by whom ? Is it the Chinese, Russians, jews, Muslims. Come on, Man.

[CountValentine]

If yes, by whom ? Is it the Chinese, Russians, jews, Muslims. Come on, Man.

It can be any of the above or ones you didn't mention. A hate crime is a hate crime!!!
Now if you want me to take a guess I would say by a white person.

[TimT]

It can be any of the above or ones you didn't mention. A hate crime is a hate crime!!!
Now if you want me to take a guess I would say by a white person.

So blacks a block over from you are very likely to be victims of a hate crime committed by a white person. Ok
Can I have a zip code please ? I’d like to do a little digging

[CountValentine]

So blacks a block over from you are very likely to be victims of a hate crime committed by a white person. Ok
Can I have a zip code please ? I’d like to do a little digging

No you can't have the zip code.
When don't you question @Lurker about his statement? Why don't you ask him for his zip code? Those were rhetorical questions in case you didn't know.

If you are going to do some digging what group do you put Jews in for the purpose of FBI stats?

[TimT]

You stated that a block away from you a black is far more likely to be the victim of a hate crime (committed by a white) than a Jew is. I’d like to look through city & federal records to see wth is going on & if those are really hate or not at all related. And you don’t want me to. Very telling

[Lurker]

I lost all respect for you. You claimed the other night you back me up when I am right. You knew I was right when I said there is more hate crime against blacks than any other group. You seen the FBI stats.

For the record, the black that lives a block over from me is ten times more likely to be a victim of a hate crime than the Jew that lives on my block!!!

I will back you up when you're honestly correct. Statistically, the chances of any one Jew being the victim of a hate crime is almost 3 times more likely than a Black person. Are there more hate crimes in total against Black people? Sure. There are more of them. But on an individual basis, a Black person is less likely to be attacked because of his/her race. Fact.

Then you moved the goalposts to victims of violent crimes, without differentiating between acts of hate and internal violence. You rationalize it by saying

When someone loses a child you think any of this matters to them, unbelievable!

but apparently parents only care when they lose their child to violence and not drugs, illness, or accidents.

Come to me with set goalposts and an honest argument and I will have your back. But I can't back all of this dancing around.

[CountValentine]

You stated that a block away from you a black is far more likely to be the victim of a hate crime (committed by a white) than a Jew is. I’d like to look through city & federal records to see wth is going on & if those are really hate or not at all related. And you don’t want me to. Very telling

I gave you a guess and that all it was.
The fact is blacks are victims of hate crimes more than any other group!!!
Now answer a simple question since so we are all on the same page:

If you are going to do some digging what group do you put Jews in for the purpose of FBI stats?