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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1920 on: February 07, 2022, 08:32:38 PM »

 Is it a code that must be entered on your phone? where is the menu where you put it in?
The unlock menu is accessed by dialing: #TFUNLOCK# (#83865625#) to access the TF UNLOCK Menu. You will then need two 16 number long codes.
It should probably also come up automatically when you insert an unsupported Sim card into the phone. I will try this method when I can get my hands on an unsupported sim (shouldn't take too long).

My phone is eligible for unlock, so I very likely may sell it soon bc I have another lg classic to use when I sell it (I am staying on Tracfone). i'll let you know about the process
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« Reply #1921 on: February 07, 2022, 08:35:09 PM »
Verizon?
ATT
Tmobile?

Assuming ATT / T mobile do. Someone told me Verizon doesn't work in unlocked phones, I'll try all 3 and let you know.
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« Reply #1922 on: February 10, 2022, 01:55:41 PM »
When I called tracfone today, they told me that b/c of the verizon buying them out, you can put a verizon sim in a tracfone phone. I have not tested it and wouldn't rely on it to work until I try.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1923 on: February 10, 2022, 11:28:58 PM »
When I called tracfone today, they told me that b/c of the verizon buying them out, you can put a verizon sim in a tracfone phone. I have not tested it and wouldn't rely on it to work until I try.
This would be huge for Verizon customers that want to buy LG Classic, if I'm understanding correctly

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« Reply #1924 on: February 11, 2022, 03:06:16 PM »
This would be huge for Verizon customers that want to buy LG Classic, if I'm understanding correctly
Yes. The question is whether they know what they're talking about. Also, it's becoming exceedingly harder to buy LG classic.
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« Reply #1925 on: February 13, 2022, 02:49:39 PM »
Yes. The question is whether they know what they're talking about. Also, it's becoming exceedingly harder to buy LG classic.
Is this place legit? yes they dont ship in the us.
https://marketplace.oorjit.net/en/tracfone-carrier-locked-lg-classic-flip-4g-lte-prepaid-flip-phone-black-4gb-sim-card-included-cdma.html
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« Reply #1926 on: February 13, 2022, 02:57:10 PM »
Yes. The question is whether they know what they're talking about. Also, it's becoming exceedingly harder to buy LG classic.
You can get it for $45 with a 30 month plan.
and use coupon code for additional money off.

USI15 Coupon code.

Total wireless has them in stock.
 Once you have the phone you can use it on TracFone or wherever. or just use it for two months and get it unlocked and get service for $10..
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1927 on: February 13, 2022, 04:53:45 PM »
How do you screen shot on the LG classic?

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« Reply #1928 on: February 13, 2022, 05:09:06 PM »
How do you screen shot on the LG classic?
Hold down PowerBtn+VolumeDown

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« Reply #1929 on: February 13, 2022, 08:17:05 PM »
You can get it for $45 with a 30 month plan.
and use coupon code for additional money off.

USI15 Coupon code.

Total wireless has them in stock.
 Once you have the phone you can use it on TracFone or wherever. or just use it for two months and get it unlocked and get service for $10..
30 day I'm assuming?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1930 on: February 14, 2022, 02:01:05 PM »
When I called tracfone today, they told me that b/c of the verizon buying them out, you can put a verizon sim in a tracfone phone. I have not tested it and wouldn't rely on it to work until I try.
I just tried putting in a Verizon sim card and it did NOT work. I hope to try again in a phone that was activated after November 23, maybe that will work but I doubt it.

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« Reply #1931 on: February 15, 2022, 03:02:39 PM »
I just tried putting in a Verizon sim card and it did NOT work. I hope to try again in a phone that was activated after November 23, maybe that will work but I doubt it.
You need it unlocked first. the hardware didnt change in the phone.

30 day I'm assuming?
Yes.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1932 on: February 22, 2022, 08:53:22 AM »
Whats the easiest way to remove apps from the a tracfone flip phone/Kai OS?

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« Reply #1933 on: February 22, 2022, 08:22:34 PM »
Are you referring to making it Kosher? Or simply removing downloaded apps?

Model Number? Depending on the model, bananahackers may do the job.
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« Reply #1934 on: February 23, 2022, 03:43:57 PM »
Are you referring to making it Kosher? Or simply removing downloaded apps?

Model Number? Depending on the model, bananahackers may do the job.

Just removing the apps.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1935 on: February 23, 2022, 08:30:52 PM »
Just removing the apps.
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If itś apps you got from KaiOS store, I believe you just go home screen > Menu > Go to the app (don´t open it, just scroll to it) > options (right Softkey) > You should see the option (either remove, delete, uninstall etc.)

Let me know if it works.

If itś a default app that came with the phone, you can only remove it with bananahackers.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1936 on: February 23, 2022, 10:28:14 PM »
If itś apps you got from KaiOS store, I believe you just go home screen > Menu > Go to the app (don´t open it, just scroll to it) > options (right Softkey) > You should see the option (either remove, delete, uninstall etc.)

Let me know if it works.

If itś a default app that came with the phone, you can only remove it with bananahackers.

Looking to remove default apps that came preinstallled.
bananahackers have to root the phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1937 on: February 24, 2022, 02:01:04 PM »
Looking to remove default apps that came preinstallled.
bananahackers have to root the phone.
Correct. Unfortunately, I don't think there is another way, except maybe through TAG
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1938 on: March 02, 2022, 11:40:48 PM »
Correct. Unfortunately, I don't think there is another way, except maybe through TAG

TAG told me no, BananaHackers unsure of where they are leading me....anyone have any more advice of what i can potentially achieve with Banana Hackers?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1939 on: March 03, 2022, 10:43:21 AM »
Did anyone else have this problem:
The cricket kosherphone with at&t service got deactivated and now the sim card suddenly only works in the AT&T branded phone?
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