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Donny pointed to the red hands and the symbolism behind them as a way of saying, "kill the Jews." He didn't accuse him of saying those exact words.
That is not what the tweet says, and Donny is seeing what he wants to see. 
Sorry going to have to label this one Exhibit D for EC.
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Sincere question:
Do you also make an effort to post links/stories in Pro-Palestine forums trying to dispel their EC?

He is a resident on this forum, hopefully he's not there.

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That is not what the tweet says, and Donny is seeing what he wants to see. 
Sorry going to have to label this one Exhibit D for EC.

Do you know what the the red hands are for?

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Donny is seeing what he wants to see. 

At what point do we allow something which symbolized something vile, violent, and hateful to be ostensibly reappriorated to mean something just a little less offensive? Can we resymbolize a noose? A burning cross? The SS runes?
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Couldn't agree more.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ole-miss-student-expelled-from-fraternity-over-monkey-noises-is-identified-by-naacp/ar-BB1lZQeK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=e13188eb190d4323a6aae80c4b63e1a5&ei=9
Ole Miss student expelled from fraternity over monkey noises is identified by NAACP
I thought that they were just screaming at each other. If you didn't tell me, I'd have no idea that there's any significance to the 'noises'.

Donny is seeing what he wants to see.

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Do you know what the the red hands are for?
At what point do we allow something which symbolized something vile, violent, and hateful to be ostensibly reappriorated to mean something just a little less offensive? Can we resymbolize a noose? A burning cross? The SS runes?
I hear where you are coming from but here is the problem. Right after 10/7 the same thing was done to Alica Keys. She had an Instagram (might have been twitter) post with a paraglider in it. Everyone took it to mean one thing. It turned out it had zero to do with 10/7. That is what happens in an EC, you don't question things. EC does not mean you are wrong it means you just accept everything as fact without questioning it. 
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Sincere question:
Do you also make an effort to post links/stories in Pro-Palestine forums trying to dispel their EC?
I always try to dispel the EC. The problem is sometimes I am in the EC and don't even see it at first.
The picture of blood on the hands has been around and used forever. I am also aware of what it means to most here.
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I thought that they were just screaming at each other. If you didn't tell me, I'd have no idea that there's any significance to the 'noises'.
Now you know.  :)
Now if someone has another view on what he was trying to do then please present it.  ;)
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I hear where you are coming from but here is the problem. Right after 10/7 the same thing was done to Alica Keys. She had an Instagram (might have been twitter) post with a paraglider in it. Everyone took it to mean one thing. It turned out it had zero to do with 10/7. That is what happens in an EC, you don't question things. EC does not mean you are wrong it means you just accept everything as fact without questioning it.
The picture of blood on the hands has been around and used forever.

You answered yourself. The paraglider thing was unfortunate timing, but it wasn't a historic symbol identified with terrorism and the lynching of Jews. This is not that, and everyone knows it.

I am also aware of what it means to most here.

Also this is disingenuous. It's not about what it means to us here in the EC. It's what they themselves use it for. I mean, up until US college students decided it doesn't really mean that and it's really about the Palestinian blood on all of our hands, and not our literal blood on the hands of those who actually lynched Jews..
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Now you know.  :)
Now if someone has another view on what he was trying to do then please present it.  ;)

It's inexcusable, and he deserves what's coming to him.
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The paraglider thing was unfortunate timing, but it wasn't a historic symbol identified with terrorism and the lynching of Jews. This is not that, and everyone knows it.
"Blood on your hands" is a historic symbol identified with terrorism and the lynching of Jews?
I must have been absent in History class for that one. When were Jews lynched?

When he has "NEU Kills" on his shirt and blood on his hands what message you think the average person will take from that?

ETA: What does this picture mean? Kill all Jews?  ::)


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It's inexcusable, and he deserves what's coming to him.
We agree on that, but I am trying to understand those who disagree.
Would like to hear what they thought it meant.
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"Blood on your hands" is a historic symbol identified with terrorism and the lynching of Jews?
I must have been absent in History class for that one. When were Jews lynched?

When he has "NEU Kills" on his shirt and blood on his hands what message you think the average person will take from that?

I apologize, as it appears you really are unaware of what it really means. The terms "blood on your hands" has nothing to do with Jews. The use of fake blood on hands in the air, however, has been used by Palestinians as call for lynching Jews, calling on the infamous picture below of an actual Palestinian with the blood of an actual Jew he had just lynched.


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We agree on that, but I am trying to understand those who disagree.
Would like to hear what they thought it meant.

I know, but if I only leave it to those who disagree with you, then we have the appearance on another EC in which this is acceptable.
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I apologize, as it appears you really are unaware of what it really means. The terms "blood on your hands" has nothing to do with Jews. The use of fake blood on hands in the air, however, has been used by Palestinians as call for lynching Jews, calling on the infamous picture below of an actual Palestinian with the blood of an actual Jew he had just lynched.


I am aware of the picture and understand why when you see a picture of blood on hands the response it draws.
See my edit with the picture.
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I am aware of the picture and understand why when you see a picture of blood on hands the response it draws.
See my edit with the picture.

Is your picture in reference to the Palestinian cause? This is what they themselves use that symbol for. Protesters can't say they are speaking on their behalf and ignore their own symbolism in that context.
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Is your picture in reference to the Palestinian cause?
The picture is in reference to the same war.
Maybe the protester had distinct messages.
1 - NEU kills
2 - Kill all Jews

Or he had one message
NEU kills and has blood on their hands.

Now let me ask you again. What message will the average person think he was making?
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