Author Topic: Israel And Ben Gurion COVID-19 Reopening Master Thread (Read 668183 times)

bp27 · « **Reply #5140 on:** October 28, 2021, 11:53:30 AM »

Only in Israel can they pull off a "reopening for tourists" that will actually bring in less people than before. Almost no one in the world qualifies, as boosters are not available for most. Only now, everyone who was able to go back and forth (student visas, first degree relatives), can't unless they and all their children were vaccinated in the last 6 months.

And now a positive Covid test from most countries won't work either.

Craziness.

Yordai Dooma · « **Reply #5141 on:** October 28, 2021, 12:09:09 PM »

I qualified to go under the new rules 11/1 but now just saw this which unqualified me. Tickets and hotel were booked yesterday so time to cancel

ALL - you are about to get fairly upset (as are we) so please pay attention. The Director General of the Health Ministry made last minute changes to the plan for November 1 reversing their decision from just days ago. The major change in the policy is that:

a) All vaccines require 14 days (not including the day of the injection) before one can enter Israel
b) Recovery from COVID only applies to the EU and possibly the UK with a digital recovery certificate
c) Your vaccination or recovery CANNOT expire while in Israel. You may not be in Israel more than 180 days after your vaccine has expired according to Israeli standards.

A. Accordingly, the FINAL criteria For entering Israel are as follows - you must meet ONE of these conditions in order to enter Israel:

a. Vaccinated within 180 days of the trip with either a second vaccine or a booster and it must be at least 14 days after the shot; OR

b. Recovered within 180 days of the trip with DIGITAL proof of a positive PCR result and more than 11 days have passed since the positive result. This type of proof only exists in the EU. The UK will likely have it as well; OR

c. Recovered anytime – even more than 180 days before the trip - with DIGITAL proof of positive PCR result AND vaccinated with at least one dose within 180 days of the trip. Again at the moment the digital proof only exists in the EU and possibly the UK shortly.

d. Your vaccination or recovery CANNOT expire while in Israel, which means you may not be in Israel more than 180 days after your vaccine or recovery have expired.

CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATING THE TERMS OF ENTRY: VIOLATION OF ANY OF THE ABOVE CRITERIA CAN MEAN SANCTIONS INCLUDING BARRING YOUR ENTRY TO ISRAEL FOR 5 YEARS.

ExGingi · « **Reply #5142 on:** October 28, 2021, 12:10:17 PM »

https://twitter.com/gotomichal/status/1453648841446731777?s=20

Guidelines for entry of foreigners and proposed sanctions for violators (staying beyond 180 days from vaccine, using false paperwork).

List of countries with eligible digital certificates to prove recovery:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/eu-digital-covid-certificate_en

Dr Moose · « **Reply #5143 on:** October 28, 2021, 12:43:20 PM »

Quote from: Yordai Dooma on October 28, 2021, 12:09:09 PM

I qualified to go under the new rules 11/1 but now just saw this which unqualified me. Tickets and hotel were booked yesterday so time to cancel

I'm under the same circumstances. Was planning on traveling with a child under 12 months. I even have an ishur already, flight is after November 1st though.

Ergel · « **Reply #5144 on:** October 28, 2021, 01:24:51 PM »

What a bunch of clowns

Ergel · « **Reply #5145 on:** October 28, 2021, 01:34:20 PM »

Are we sure that old ishurim are worthless?

Ergel · « **Reply #5146 on:** October 28, 2021, 01:35:44 PM »

How do they plan on enforcing people leaving within 180 days - are they going to check vaccination cards in the airport on the way out?

mgarfin · « **Reply #5147 on:** October 28, 2021, 02:41:41 PM »

Summing up much of the unknown

https://chaimvchessed.com/questions-uncertainties-regarding-foreigner-entry-to-israel/

yungermanchik · « **Reply #5148 on:** October 28, 2021, 02:46:39 PM »

Quote from: yungermanchik on August 08, 2021, 01:57:19 PM

puddles · « **Reply #5149 on:** October 28, 2021, 03:35:05 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on October 28, 2021, 01:35:44 PM

How do they plan on enforcing people leaving within 180 days - are they going to check vaccination cards in the airport on the way out?

Agreed. Also, without the US having digital vaccine cards, how are they sure there are not forgeries.

Dan · « **Reply #5150 on:** October 28, 2021, 03:38:45 PM »

Quote from: puddles on October 28, 2021, 03:35:05 PM

Agreed. Also, without the US having digital vaccine cards, how are they sure there are not forgeries.

I have a digital COVID vaccine card.

puddles · « **Reply #5151 on:** October 28, 2021, 03:54:58 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 28, 2021, 03:38:45 PM

I have a digital COVID vaccine card.

As of now, they are not accepting digital cards (NY has one). But they are taking paper cards from the US. Which anyone can forge.

Ergel · « **Reply #5152 on:** October 28, 2021, 04:08:22 PM »

Quote from: Chaim V'chesed

Will visa holders need to conform to the same rules as tourists? If they do, any visa holder who does not meet the new entry criteria will not be permitted to return to Israel should they leave the country.

This kasha shlugs up the whole thing