frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary

[CountValentine]

IOW, it's a victim mentality based on old history that we should have gotten over already.

...and we have a winner.

[Freddie]

...and we have a winner.

So you are clueless. This is not history.

[Satmar Lady]

This is not history.

+1. You should see the missionary hospital operating in Jerusalem, with Hebrew texts quoted by the entrance, obviously targeting our less knowledgeable brethren. This is happening today and is very upsetting.

[churnbabychurn]

Yad lachim is at the forefront of the anti missionary battle in israel, on their site you should be able to find info about the extent of this problem etc.

http://www.yadlachimusa.org.il/default.asp

[CountValentine]

So you are clueless.

I guess so. 

Would you be so kind to give me an undate on the numbers for the past year for the following?
Burned at the stake
Babies snatched from parents
Torture chambers used
Convert or be killed

[churnbabychurn]

There are more than 100 missionary congregations operating in Israel. Indeed, every city has a missionary congregation that runs programs and activities aimed at luring Jews.

The annual budget of the missionaries in Israel is in the millions of dollars, often funded from foreign sources.

Under the guise of assisting the public, they open community centers, as well as drug-treatment facilities, that serve to advance their cause.

The missionaries have at their disposal kibbutzim, convention centers, youth hostels, coffee houses, publishing houses and much more to spread their poisonous message.

Three main groups are especially vulnerable to the influence of the missionaries: those who suffer from economic or emotional distress, young adults, and new immigrants, especially those who come from countries in which they were raised uneducated about their Judaism.

People who are in crisis can be lured easily by offers of assistance. The missionary groups step in and distribute food to the needy or schoolbags to their children. These programs are part of a wider strategy, a way of acquiring the trust of the needy.

At the same time, figures show that missionaries are intensifying their efforts among new immigrants, who are showing an interest in what they have to offer. Many of the immigrants are isolated; they don’t understand Hebrew, miss the homes they left behind in their native countries and yearn for human contact. This, in addition to their difficult financial situation, provides fertile ground for the missionaries.

There is another population group that is vulnerable: young Israelis, often straight out of the army, who are searching for meaning in their lives. These young people have been failed by the state educational system, which didn’t offer any sense of the beauty of Judaism, and so get caught up in cults in the Far East or in other mystical pursuits.

[Satmar Lady]

I guess so. 

Would you be so kind to give me an undate on the numbers for the past year for the following?
Burned at the stake
Babies snatched from parents
Torture chambers used
Convert or be killed

CV thinks that Jews bashing missionaries is like African-Americans asking for slavery reparations. IOW, it's a victim mentality based on old history that we should have gotten over already.

He's referring to Jews bashing missionaries. CV, Do you think this is a victim mentality?

[Moishel]

Oy vay! and how many Williamsburg people exactly did they convert? This whole panic is just that, unwarranted panic.

[churnbabychurn]

Oy vay! and how many Williamsburg people exactly did they convert? This whole panic is just that, unwarranted panic.

We are more concerned with the modern, unaffiliated, immigrant, poor, in crises, teens, etc. They are more vulnerable to missionaries.
They are very successful with these groups in israel. Not the chassidim from williamsburg.

[CountValentine]

CV, Do you think this is a victim mentality?

If you are going to use burning at the stake to make your point then yes. The point you and others are making then no.

What is the drive behind this? Are they just trying to get members to kick start their religion in Israel?

[Satmar Lady]

Oy vay! and how many Williamsburg people exactly did they convert? This whole panic is just that, unwarranted panic.

Well, they didn't last more than a week or two, due to the community's protests. If Jews would have converted had they not send them packing, nobody can say for sure.

[Satmar Lady]

If you are going to use burning at the stake to make your point then yes. The point you and others are making then no.

What is the drive behind this? Are they just trying to get members to kick start their religion in Israel?

Got you, thanks.
This is what Wikipedia had to say about the Anglican missionaries:
"The society began in the early 19th century, when leading evangelicals, including members of the influential Clapham Sect such as William Wilberforce, and Charles Simeon, decided that there was an unmet need to promote Christianity among the Jews."
I guess the large Jewish population is what brings them there.

[CountValentine]

Yad lachim is at the forefront of the anti missionary battle in israel, on their site you should be able to find info about the extent of this problem etc.

http://www.yadlachimusa.org.il/default.asp

So Christianity is a cult?
"In our battle against the missionaries we are even more motivated. We see the saving of each and every Jewish soul from Christian cults as a sacred mission. This is what drives Yad L’Achim’s relentless efforts against the mission and its members."

[churnbabychurn]

I guess they mean "cults" as in brainwashing, luring, controlling, etc.
But there are plenty of extreme christian sections or groups that are full blown cults.

[Menachem613]

I guess so. 

Would you be so kind to give me an undate on the numbers for the past year for the following?
Burned at the stake
Babies snatched from parents
Torture chambers used
Convert or be killed

I guess we are supposed to forgive and forget??

[MarkS]

So Christianity is a cult?
"In our battle against the missionaries we are even more motivated. We see the saving of each and every Jewish soul from Christian cults as a sacred mission. This is what drives Yad L’Achim’s relentless efforts against the mission and its members."

Huh?  How does that say that Christianity is a cult?
If someone has a shelter for homeless people does that mean that all people are homeless? 

[CountValentine]

I guess we are supposed to forgive and forget??

H*ll no. I hate every Jap to this day. 

[CountValentine]

Huh?  How does that say that Christianity is a cult?

Please translate for me. Does it mean none, some, many or something else?

[MarkS]

Please translate for me. Does it mean none, some, many or something else?

Some Christians belong to cults.     That doesnt mean that Christianity is a cult

[Satmar Lady]

Please translate for me. Does it mean none, some, many or something else?

I'm assuming they deem all aggressive Christian missions as cults. I can very well assure you that no Orthodox Jew thinks Christianity is a cult nowadays.