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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1723837 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4060 on: December 25, 2013, 09:14:22 PM »
Sorry for being cynical, but in a previous post you're asking for a car rental rate, and you're saying there that you're 21 years old. How can you be with Chase for 20 years? Did you open your first bank account and credit card when you were still in diapers?

I would also not trust a young 21 year old with high credit, and BIG spend :(
I've posted a lot on her for other people, maybe he wanted to arrange a rental for his son.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4061 on: December 25, 2013, 09:15:54 PM »
Sorry for being cynical, but in a previous post you're asking for a car rental rate, and you're saying there that you're 21 years old. How can you be with Chase for 20 years? Did you open your first bank account and credit card when you were still in diapers?

I would also not trust a young 21 year old with high credit, and BIG spend :(
So you can cut his CL. No reason reason to STEAL points.   >:( >:(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4062 on: December 25, 2013, 10:03:24 PM »
Nice to see people do their research, but sorry I am not 21 years old!

I assume the trigger was recently being accepted to a few new (business) cards, highering my total CL with all banks from around 80k to 110k.

I did not do any schtik with GCs etc., although applying for 6 new cards (2 succesfull 2bms and 2 other applications) within a year may be fishy.

Either way, can we stay on track, I am going to speak to my banker tomorrow, and would like to know if anyone has any experiance and advice on what to say and if/which papers I should bring along?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4063 on: December 25, 2013, 10:22:31 PM »
The banker can't do anything, even if you had millions in your Chase checking account.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4064 on: December 25, 2013, 10:32:40 PM »
The banker can't do anything, even if you had millions in your Chase checking account.

Are you speaking from experiance?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4065 on: December 25, 2013, 10:40:38 PM »
Nice to see people do their research, but sorry I am not 21 years old!

I assume the trigger was recently being accepted to a few new (business) cards, highering my total CL with all banks from around 80k to 110k.

I did not do any schtik with GCs etc., although applying for 6 new cards (2 succesfull 2bms and 2 other applications) within a year may be fishy.

Either way, can we stay on track, I am going to speak to my banker tomorrow, and would like to know if anyone has any experiance and advice on what to say and if/which papers I should bring along?
Never heard of Chase asking for tax returns etc.... a banker once told me that he had a client for years and they shut all his CC, he called in and there was nothing to do but he asked to speak higher up and said that he personally knows this guy for many years and there in no reason to close him up, and they reopened him.  So it sounds if a banker really wants to do something, there is a possibility.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4066 on: December 25, 2013, 10:51:42 PM »
Never heard of Chase asking for tax returns etc.... a banker once told me that he had a client for years and they shut all his CC, he called in and there was nothing to do but he asked to speak higher up and said that he personally knows this guy for many years and there in no reason to close him up, and they reopened him.  So it sounds if a banker really wants to do something, there is a possibility.
my banker told me there is nothing he can do he made some phone calls for me
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4067 on: December 25, 2013, 11:13:46 PM »
my banker told me there is nothing he can do he made some phone calls for me
I sometimes CAN'T wash dishes...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4068 on: December 26, 2013, 03:38:48 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4069 on: December 26, 2013, 04:11:48 PM »
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OMG when will this end sorry for you, did you lose points? did you do shtick like UR transfers?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4070 on: December 26, 2013, 06:47:38 PM »
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So they only closed your SP, and let your BA open? Were you closed for perk abuse?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4071 on: December 26, 2013, 07:10:55 PM »
So they only closed your SP, and let your BA open? Were you closed for perk abuse?
why do you say that? available credit 0

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4072 on: December 26, 2013, 07:38:06 PM »
why do you say that? available credit 0
He opened the British AFTER he was hit with the A/A...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4073 on: December 26, 2013, 10:05:20 PM »
He opened the British AFTER he was hit with the A/A...
how d'you figure
i was in a store trying to pay some $25 and my chase card is declined!
i for sure had available credit on the card i called chase they told me that my cards are revoked.
i was transferred to the lending department they claim because i have $106k in total avail. credit. and i recently applied for a new card (citi business)  i'm a risky costumer so they closed all my cc (not bank)

 i just applied for the ba 100k offer ans was approved instantly for $6k cl  :) :)
hope they wont close this one to
i understood he just applied before he was aa. but either "avaiablr credit 0" sounds like both are closed

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4074 on: December 26, 2013, 10:23:28 PM »
i applied 3 hrs. after i found out that my accounts are closed

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4075 on: December 26, 2013, 10:36:21 PM »
i applied 3 hrs. after i found out that my accounts are closed
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4076 on: December 27, 2013, 01:11:50 AM »
i applied 3 hrs. after i found out that my accounts are closed
do u have any idea why they closed it?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4077 on: December 27, 2013, 01:15:41 AM »
Just hit the trifecta. What a Christmas gift.  >:(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4078 on: December 27, 2013, 01:16:57 AM »
Just hit the trifecta. What a Christmas gift.  >:(
Uh oh. 
I feel sorry for you. 

How many points did you  have in there?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4079 on: December 27, 2013, 01:20:44 AM »
Uh oh. 
I feel sorry for you. 

How many points did you  have in there?
No big deal. I will make them pay in the long run.
A whopping 807 points.  :)
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