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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1723558 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4120 on: December 29, 2013, 06:44:16 PM »
My UA account is missing exactly 1.2mm

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4121 on: December 29, 2013, 06:45:08 PM »
1.2MM but I have no idea where to transfer to :P
transfer to me:P
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4122 on: December 29, 2013, 06:46:58 PM »
1.2MM but I have no idea where to transfer to :P
Sell half, 300k to UA and 300k to Hyatt and stop looking at my account.  >:(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4123 on: December 29, 2013, 06:53:32 PM »
Sell half, 300k to UA and 300k to Hyatt and stop looking at my account.  >:(
Sitting on 5.5MM UA and 2MM HGP, don't really know which I'll exhaust first.
Or if I'd rather KE.
Or if I'll be kicking myself when they introduce another airline the day after I transfer.
Etc...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4124 on: December 29, 2013, 06:59:06 PM »
Sitting on 5.5MM UA and 2MM HGP, don't really know which I'll exhaust first.
Or if I'd rather KE.
Or if I'll be kicking myself when they introduce another airline the day after I transfer.
Etc...
#richmansworrys
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4125 on: December 29, 2013, 07:05:46 PM »
Sitting on 5.5MM UA and 2MM HGP, don't really know which I'll exhaust first.
Or if I'd rather KE.
Or if I'll be kicking myself when they introduce another airline the day after I transfer.
Etc...


Impressive  :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4126 on: December 29, 2013, 07:09:54 PM »
Meh. I'm hardly the biggest fish in the sea.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4127 on: December 29, 2013, 07:12:42 PM »
Meh. I'm hardly the biggest fish in the sea.

Then the sea is bigger than I imagined. 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4128 on: December 29, 2013, 08:41:22 PM »
I have 700k UR don't know where to transfer to
I don't know what to tell you, the way I see it even transferring to the cheapest currency would have been good since 'something' is better than nothing, especially if you can research the best place transfer to, on the other hand I'm just one case.

The only thing that scares me is that I was not a heavy player or churner, I always considered myself to be a 'light' player, but that didn't stop Chase from coming after me.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4129 on: December 29, 2013, 10:33:00 PM »
1.2MM but I have no idea where to transfer to :P
Bli ayin hora, if you get hit with an a/a then Chase makes allot of money. IME they close down accounts just like that, they are even not embarrassed to tell you that they have the right to do so even without a reason, as per their terms

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4130 on: December 29, 2013, 11:12:06 PM »
Bli ayin hora, if you get hit with an a/a then Chase makes allot of money. IME they close down accounts just like that, they are even not embarrassed to tell you that they have the right to do so even without a reason, as per their terms
Dan getting A/A'd??  ???
I think James Dimon has more of a chance of getting A/A'd, then Dan.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4131 on: December 29, 2013, 11:14:53 PM »
I don't have any Hyatt points but have 1.2 mm united so not sure what to do

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4132 on: December 30, 2013, 09:48:14 AM »
Dan getting A/A'd??  ???
I think James Dimon has more of a chance of getting A/A'd, then Dan.
If you think LP has anything to do with marketing you're sadly mistaken.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4133 on: December 30, 2013, 10:49:18 AM »
If you think LP has anything to do with marketing you're sadly mistaken.
So then why aren't you concerned?
1) You've got tons of cards w/ them.
2) You've churned their cards.
3) You've likely done Staple and CVS games.
4) I'd assume your overall credit line is very high (although it boils down to whether your stated income can match it).

Why not transfer to avoid the risk to these 17k worth of points, and if they do introduce a new partner, then you can either buy miles transferred into that new airline account, or simply earn lots more points in a short time.

And out of curiosity, which airline is shayach (hebrew) to join that you'd really want to see?
AA - not happening
DL - haha
UA - in already
EK - w/ AMEX
CX - w/ AMEX, chart isn't anything too special
Singapore - w/ AMEX, although I could see this being nice due to the special access to suites.
Garuda - can book their F w/ KE already
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4134 on: December 30, 2013, 12:07:25 PM »
If you think LP has anything to do with marketing you're sadly mistaken.
So then why aren't you concerned?
+1
I wouldn't be sleeping at night,  That's $20,000(or more) that can disappear in a flash.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4135 on: December 30, 2013, 12:50:25 PM »
@drago -  AS.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4136 on: December 30, 2013, 01:13:27 PM »
@drago -  AS.
My bad, forgot the obvious one.
Although they do have a pretty long term relationship with BOA, including have debit cards issued by them.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4137 on: December 30, 2013, 01:56:35 PM »
Sitting on 5.5MM UA and 2MM HGP, don't really know which I'll exhaust first.
Or if I'd rather KE.
Or if I'll be kicking myself when they introduce another airline the day after I transfer.
Etc...

What's KE

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4138 on: December 30, 2013, 02:07:46 PM »
So then why aren't you concerned?
Who said I'm not concerned?
But I'm also concerned for my airline and hotel accounts as well :P
C'est la vie, that's the name of the game.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4139 on: December 30, 2013, 02:08:11 PM »
My bad, forgot the obvious one.
Although they do have a pretty long term relationship with BOA, including have debit cards issued by them.
Debit card is dead. But your point is still valid.