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Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #60 on: November 01, 2023, 01:40:01 AM »
I would like to see a new poll:

Should we first drop a warning "knock" bomb on the UN, or should we flatten it without warning them first?
Are there civilians?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #61 on: November 01, 2023, 01:42:51 AM »
Are there civilians?
Obviously, I don't think that everyone inside the UN should die. But the sentiment that so many of them deserve to die is burning in me. As a civilized non-radical, I am not going to act on that feeling and murder someone.

(Hamas would.)

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #62 on: November 01, 2023, 03:07:55 AM »
Are there civilians?
There are no innocent civilians, thats for sure...

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #63 on: November 01, 2023, 08:20:33 AM »
No mater how bad you say it is the world still cares about the UN.

UN report: All 59 killed in Hroza missile attack were civilians
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/un-report-all-59-killed-in-hroza-missile-attack-were-civilians/ar-AA1ja72b?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=5b86c9e3540940119705720061da98fa&ei=23
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2023, 09:47:21 AM »
http://twitter.com/hahussain/status/1719395445661655154
With similar claims from IDF that Hamas took over a "residential building" in the "refugee camp" and the tunnels and explosives they had all over the place caused surrounding buildings to collapse too.

They must be really stealthy guys to have hidden all this from the UNRWA admins of the camp. I could never have happened that they knowingly harbored the terrorist HQ, right?

/s
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2023, 11:31:22 AM »
With similar claims from IDF that Hamas took over a "residential building" in the "refugee camp" and the tunnels and explosives they had all over the place caused surrounding buildings to collapse too.

They must be really stealthy guys to have hidden all this from the UNRWA admins of the camp. I could never have happened that they knowingly harbored the terrorist HQ, right?

/s

In theory Hamas can dig under them and they’d never know.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2023, 11:34:07 AM »
In theory Hamas can dig under them and they’d never know.
Either this is true, or CNN has some of the dumbest reports covering this war. Many have been to the refugee camp that was bombed many times in the past year. They said they never seen a presence of Hamas.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2023, 11:40:41 AM »
Either this is true, or CNN has some of the dumbest reports covering this war. Many have been to the refugee camp that was bombed many times in the past year. They said they never seen a presence of Hamas.

Who said Hamas militants will all be in uniform and armed all the time? Un-uniformed Hamas personnel are indistinguishable from other civilians.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2023, 11:44:21 AM »
Who said Hamas militants will all be in uniform and armed all the time? Un-uniformed Hamas personnel are indistinguishable from other civilians.
You don't think they would be in charge or running the camp?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2023, 11:49:10 AM »
You don't think they would be in charge or running the camp?

Not if it’s UN- run. But even if there’s Hamas governmental officials involved, I don’t take it for granted that CNN correspondents would know where to find them, and that if they hadn’t then they don’t exist.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2023, 01:28:03 PM »
Either this is true, or CNN has some of the dumbest reports covering this war. Many have been to the refugee camp that was bombed many times in the past year. They said they never seen a presence of Hamas.

This has long been an issue in Gaza. Famously with AP, even after Israel provided plenty of evidence that they were.

There could be a few explanations:
1) They are lying because they want to portray a certain narrative.
1.b) They are basing their reports on freelance reporters who lie as they are Hamas members themselves or are Hamas apologists.
2) They are lying because otherwise Hamas will kick them out and block them from being able to report. This has happened to numerous reporters and channels.
3) Hamas hides. They uses tunnels, they don't wear uniforms or name tags, and they purposefully try blend in, especially in sensitive places like schools, mosques, medical facilities, and press offices.
4) Hamas moves around. Staying in one place is asking for Israel to hit you.


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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2023, 03:01:47 PM »
3) Hamas hides. They uses tunnels, they don't wear uniforms or name tags, and they purposefully try blend in, especially in sensitive places like schools, mosques, medical facilities, and press offices.
That is what they are saying.
There point is if they are using hospital as thier command center they would know. That isn't blending in.
We keep saying tunnels. These are basically homes underground connected by tunnels.
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2023, 03:24:12 PM »
That is what they are saying.
There point is if they are using hospital as thier command center they would know. That isn't blending in.
We keep saying tunnels. These are basically homes underground connected by tunnels.
There was an old documentary I saw more than a decade ago that managed to get footage of Hamas running their HQ in Al Shifa. The doctors denied it, the patients denied it, other media denied it, all under the threat of being killed by Hamas.

I wish I could remember who produced it or where to find it.

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2023, 04:07:36 PM »
There was an old documentary I saw more than a decade ago that managed to get footage of Hamas running their HQ in Al Shifa. The doctors denied it, the patients denied it, other media denied it, all under the threat of being killed by Hamas.

I wish I could remember who produced it or where to find it.

This?

Wide Angle: Season 6, Episode 5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wide_Angle_episodes

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/arts/television/14genz.html

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/by-geography/middle-east/gaza-er-introduction/971/

https://twitter.com/elderofziyon/status/1719039161166938484
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2023, 05:03:27 PM »
This?
No way can I spot the terrorist.  :)
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PM »
This?

Wide Angle: Season 6, Episode 5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wide_Angle_episodes
Anywhere to watch or download the full episode?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #78 on: November 09, 2023, 12:20:00 AM »
@CV, please read the whole thing when you have a chance and don't give me a "he's a hack" response.

https://twitter.com/UNWatch/status/1722287346005975448

You can watch it here instead: https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1722423600815239256

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Re: Should The USA And It’s Allies Defund The UN?
« Reply #79 on: November 09, 2023, 12:32:45 AM »

When I get a chance I will. Is EC response, ok?  :P
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