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Title: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 26, 2019, 03:04:17 PM
Hi, On behalf of other DDFers and myself, It would be great if we can help spread awareness on this credit card swiping epidemic! The heimishe daily/weekly papers in Boro Park, Williamsburg, Lakewood, Monsey are continuously running ads from these credit card companies offering up to $10k thru opening new credit cards (thankfully, there are less ads as of recently due to limited sign-up bonuses...), There are also ads for learning courses which is free if you give your social so that they can open credit cards, swipe, and take your points!!
In order to get this campaign running, we will need the following:
1. Ad wording and design
2. Donations/contributions
3. and anyone who has connections to the papers to bargain a better price as these ads are very costly... Especially if we want to run a full page ad and be in the most papers possible. Being that this is an awareness ad, papers will hopefully be inclined to offer a better rate, a free ad would really be nice...
If anybody would like to contribute please reply, send me a PM, and let's make this happen!! Thank You dan for spreading awareness!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: joey89 on February 26, 2019, 03:51:29 PM
Maybe you can add a wiki which will show how much money was raised, hopefully we can create a snowball effect where many people will join in.
Donations should be handled by a trusted member (Dan, JJ, or any other member who has credibility with the members here), while the rest of the work can be crowd sourced.
Thank you for taking the initiative to get this started.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: aro123 on February 26, 2019, 06:34:56 PM
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1685704/dont-let-this-happen-to-you-the-dark-side-of-earning-credit-card-points.html
you got a free ad
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on February 26, 2019, 06:51:32 PM
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1685704/dont-let-this-happen-to-you-the-dark-side-of-earning-credit-card-points.html
you got a free ad
Why did they write it as Dan, but don't mention that it's copied and pasted from Dan? Am I missing something?
ETA: I see the same is being discussed in the other thread.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on February 26, 2019, 07:10:21 PM
Why did they write it as Dan, but don't mention that it's copied and pasted from Dan? Am I missing something?
ETA: I see the same is being discussed in the other thread.
I hope the question was rhetorical
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Dan on February 26, 2019, 07:11:39 PM
Same reason they stole the LY ATC video and uploaded it as their own without credit and then got mad when I filed a DMCA.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on February 26, 2019, 07:13:28 PM
Same reason they stole the LY ATC video and uploaded it as their own without credit and then got mad when I filed a DMCA.
This just looks foolish because it's clearly you writing in the first person. Stealing a video is not as blatantly obvious to the unassuming reader
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: aro123 on February 26, 2019, 07:14:54 PM
Same reason they stole the LY ATC video and uploaded it as their own without credit and then got mad when I filed a DMCA.
but this is embarrassing...
for someone who doesn't know where they stole it from it looks so unprofessional and weird....
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on February 26, 2019, 07:15:58 PM
but this is embarrassing...
for someone who doesn't know where they stole it from it looks so unprofessional and weird....
The last thing they have to worry about is looking unprofessional
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on February 26, 2019, 07:24:13 PM


I hope the question was rhetorical

The only reason it wasn't

This just looks foolish because it's clearly you writing in the first person. Stealing a video is not as blatantly obvious to the unassuming reader



but this is embarrassing...
for someone who doesn't know where they stole it from it looks so unprofessional and weird....

Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: stooges44 on February 26, 2019, 07:40:51 PM
Why did they write it as Dan, but don't mention that it's copied and pasted from Dan? Am I missing something?
ETA: I see the same is being discussed in the other thread.

I dont know if this was there the whole time but I see it now:

(https://i.gyazo.com/b0aec929e8e6b7cc3e69f9a3a1152599.png)
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on February 26, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
I dont know if this was there the whole time but I see it now:

(https://i.gyazo.com/b0aec929e8e6b7cc3e69f9a3a1152599.png)
Just added
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on February 26, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Just added
I may or may not have had something to do with that
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: justaregularguy on February 26, 2019, 08:42:04 PM
I may or may not have had something to do with that
but why do things like this need to be pointed out and corrected, and not just done right in the first place?? Gosh!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on February 26, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
but why do things like this need to be pointed out and corrected, and not just done right in the first place?? Gosh!
Your guess is as good as mine...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on February 26, 2019, 08:43:56 PM
I may or may not have had something to do with that
Please dont tell me you run that site...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on February 26, 2019, 08:44:29 PM
Please dont tell me you run that site...
HELL NO!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: justaregularguy on February 26, 2019, 08:45:25 PM
Your guess is as good as mine...
what benefit do they get by not posting the origin, and what loss would they have if they did?
My guess is they just plain old arenít professional and donít think of these things 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: joey89 on February 26, 2019, 09:31:06 PM
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Robert J Hanlon
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on February 26, 2019, 10:06:54 PM
Please dont tell me you run that site...
ROFL
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 26, 2019, 10:41:08 PM
Back to business here... So we get things looking real on this project, can anyone volunteer on the writing and design? (i am not the best writer as you can tell...) We just need something sharp, minimal wording which gets the message across clearly. I feel like Dan's PSA post is too long for 1 page ad, and wouldn't register with most of the naive crowd who's ready to sign up for anything offering quick and easy cash!
I was thinking something along these lines:
 
WARNING! DON'T LET OTHERS SWIPE CREDIT CARDS WITH YOUR NAME ON IT!!
WE WOULD LIKE TO SPREAD AWARENESS TO OUR COMMUNITY REGARDING A SERIOUS AND ONGOING EPIDEMIC INVOLVING OTHERS SWIPING YOUR CREDIT CARDS...
{GIVE 2 OR 3 SHORT PERSONAL STORIES}
{LIST THE COMMON PLACES WHERE PPL GOT CAUGHT IN THIS MESS, AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED}
1. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE ADS OFFERING YOU "QUICK CASH, UP TO $10K BY SIGNING UP FOR NEW CREDIT CARDS!
2. DO NOT ALLOW A LEARNING COURSE TO TAKE YOUR LEGAL NAME & SOCIAL SECURITY # SO THAT THEY CAN OPEN CREDIT CARDS ON YOUR NAME, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE COURSE!
3. DO NOT GIVE YOUR CHILDREN'S SCHOOL/YESHIVA YOUR LEGAL INFO. FOR A CUT IN TUITION
4. DO NOT GIVE YOUR MOSED/CONGREGATION YOUR NEW 0% INTEREST FREE CREDIT CARDS IN ORDER TO "HELP" THEM OUT OF  A  "PASSING MONEY SHORTAGE"- (CUZ YOU KNOW THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A MONEY SHORTAGE.. AND YOU WILL BE LEFT IN SERIOUS DEBT!)

IF YOU GOT ANYTHING MORE TO ADD, PLEASE DO SO! OR IF YOU CAN HELP OUT WITH THE WRITING, PLEASE CONTRIBUTE!

As for raising money, there is a wiki added, in which you can add your pledge, pls let us know how much you're willing to sponsor if all goes well. Once we have a concrete drafted ad, hopefully it give you all a greater incentive to donate for the cause!


 
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zale on February 26, 2019, 11:34:04 PM
Back to business here... So we get things looking real on this project, can anyone volunteer on the writing and design? (i am not the best writer as you can tell...) We just need something sharp, minimal wording which gets the message across clearly. I feel like Dan's PSA post is too long for 1 page ad, and wouldn't register with most of the naive crowd who's ready to sign up for anything offering quick and easy cash!
I was thinking something along these lines:
 
WARNING! DON'T LET OTHERS SWIPE CREDIT CARDS WITH YOUR NAME ON IT!!
WE WOULD LIKE TO SPREAD AWARENESS TO OUR COMMUNITY REGARDING A SERIOUS AND ONGOING EPIDEMIC INVOLVING OTHERS SWIPING YOUR CREDIT CARDS...
{GIVE 2 OR 3 SHORT PERSONAL STORIES}
{LIST THE COMMON PLACES WHERE PPL GOT CAUGHT IN THIS MESS, AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED}
1. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE ADS OFFERING YOU "QUICK CASH, UP TO $10K BY SIGNING UP FOR NEW CREDIT CARDS!
2. DO NOT ALLOW A LEARNING COURSE TO TAKE YOUR LEGAL NAME & SOCIAL SECURITY # SO THAT THEY CAN OPEN CREDIT CARDS ON YOUR NAME, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE COURSE!
3. DO NOT GIVE YOUR CHILDREN'S SCHOOL/YESHIVA YOUR LEGAL INFO. FOR A CUT IN TUITION
4. DO NOT GIVE YOUR MOSED/CONGREGATION YOUR NEW 0% INTEREST FREE CREDIT CARDS IN ORDER TO "HELP" THEM OUT OF  A  "PASSING MONEY SHORTAGE"- (CUZ YOU KNOW THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A MONEY SHORTAGE.. AND YOU WILL BE LEFT IN SERIOUS DEBT!)

IF YOU GOT ANYTHING MORE TO ADD, PLEASE DO SO! OR IF YOU CAN HELP OUT WITH THE WRITING, PLEASE CONTRIBUTE!

As for raising money, there is a wiki added, in which you can add your pledge, pls let us know how much you're willing to sponsor if all goes well. Once we have a concrete drafted ad, hopefully it give you all a greater incentive to donate for the cause!

1. "Swipe" indicates physical swiping. They don't only do physical swiping, they also punch in the CC numbers. This might seem obvious to a DD'er, but it's not so obvious to the general public. "Swipe or use" should cover it, or just "use".

2. "Fooled" is not necessarily the correct term. Some of these companies are buying group type places that buy merchandise with the card. The problem with using the "fooled" word is that the CC swiping guys will "debunk" the ad by showing the soon-to-be-victim that they actually buy merchandise and that it's not a scam. I would word it "Do not respond to ads offering you "quick cash..."

3. I would add: "If you have already given your credit cards to such places, EVEN IF THEY HAVE ALREADY "MADE YOU MONEY", call those places immediately and tell them to no longer place charges on your card and that you want those cards paid off. Once those cards are paid off, cancel and shred them."

4. You must state in as few words as possible what the danger is. "Yidden have been left with hundreds of thousands of dollars in credit card debt with NO CHOICE BUT TO FILE FOR BANKRUPTCY. No matter how "safe" they tell you it is, no matter how many times they tell you that "nothing can go wrong", they are lying and the outcome can be catastrophic.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on February 27, 2019, 12:03:57 AM
Gotta point out that it ain't as easy to dispute as they think.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehuda57 on February 27, 2019, 08:05:45 AM
Anyone who has leverage with any publication that publishes these ads should push them to refuse posting them. Removing them will be more helpful than publishing a counter ad once or twice.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on February 27, 2019, 08:58:01 AM
Anyone who has leverage with any publication that publishes these ads should push them to refuse posting them. Removing them will be more helpful than publishing a counter ad once or twice.
Hard to tell them not to take $$$ for ads. I'd say if enough $ is raised, you can pay them to not accept the ads.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehuda57 on February 27, 2019, 10:08:21 AM
Hard to tell them not to take $$$ for ads. I'd say if enough $ is raised, you can pay them to not accept the ads.
Hence the first words in my post. I'm sure there are plenty of advertisers on here
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on February 28, 2019, 03:40:58 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/KXRsmPS/CC-PSA.jpg)

I put it into a picture. Added some things (which might not be 100% accurate). Might be too much of a wall of text though.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: mmgfarb on February 28, 2019, 03:46:35 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/KXRsmPS/CC-PSA.jpg)

I put it into a picture. Added some things (which might not be 100% accurate). Might be too much of a wall of text though.
Nobody is going to take that seriously.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on February 28, 2019, 03:48:40 AM
Nobody is going to take that seriously.
That's possible. Well at least I tried...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: S209 on February 28, 2019, 08:07:59 AM
Write a letter to the editor...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehudaa on February 28, 2019, 08:19:35 AM
Write a letter to the editor...
That's a good idea. Free publicity. Which publications are willing to publish letters that aren't following up on an article?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 08:43:03 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/KXRsmPS/CC-PSA.jpg)

I put it into a picture. Added some things (which might not be 100% accurate). Might be too much of a wall of text though.
Thanks Definitions! It's a good start! Gotta work on the wording though... On my draft, I wrote a bit much, it needs to be written way better... Sharp and using the fewest words possible.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: lubaby on February 28, 2019, 08:43:53 AM
That's a good idea. Free publicity. Which publications are willing to publish letters that aren't following up on an article?
You can be following up on the Ads we want removed.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 08:44:43 AM
That's a good idea. Free publicity. Which publications are willing to publish letters that aren't following up on an article?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Ami or Mishpacha write a full blown article regarding this, soon enough....
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on February 28, 2019, 09:12:12 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/KXRsmPS/CC-PSA.jpg)

I put it into a picture. Added some things (which might not be 100% accurate). Might be too much of a wall of text though.
hang in BMg
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on February 28, 2019, 09:48:41 AM
That's a good idea. Free publicity. Which publications are willing to publish letters that aren't following up on an article?
For sure the yated. Idk the rest but it can't hurt to email them anyways.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=100131.0

Thanks Definitions! It's a good start! Gotta work on the wording though... On my draft, I wrote a bit much, it needs to be written way better... Sharp and using the fewest words possible.
Yes for sure.
hang in BMg
I'll leave that to someone else :)
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: SSLPhD on February 28, 2019, 10:56:11 AM
Maybe:
"Have you seen such an ad?"
include a sample ad with identifying info redacted
"Here's how it works"
with red arrows pointing to the various parts explaining it,
"Here's what you need to know"
explaining how this could go, and has gone, downhill.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: regular on February 28, 2019, 10:59:39 AM
3. I would add: "If you have already given your credit cards to such places, EVEN IF THEY HAVE ALREADY "MADE YOU MONEY", call those places immediately and tell them to no longer place charges on your card and that you want those cards paid off. Once those cards are paid off, cancel and shred them."
It would probably be best to also email/text them this. In case the time ever came that you need the proof in writing that you didn't authorize any charges after that date.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 11:02:29 AM
Anybody have a shutterstock account? I want this pic for ad.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 01:17:31 PM
Here's the draft ad!! Any comments/critique welcome!! If anyone is good at proofreading, I can send you just the wording. Let me know. I know there's so much more to say, but we gotta just deliver the underlying message, and I feel this does the job!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 01:23:04 PM
Shoutout and thanks to @zale & @Definitions ! I played around with your wording recommendations. And thanks to anyone who has pull in the papers to get this printed!!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on February 28, 2019, 01:24:08 PM
Here's the draft ad!! Any comments/critique welcome!! If anyone is good at proofreading, I can send you just the wording. Let me know. I know there's so much more to say, but we gotta just deliver the underlying message, and I feel this does the job!
i would change the font of the words in the block boxes; to me it doesnít have a serious enough feel to it. Get what Iím saying?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: lubaby on February 28, 2019, 01:25:47 PM
It would probably be best to also email/text them this. In case the time ever came that you need the proof in writing that you didn't authorize any charges after that date.
+1

Always leave a paper trail to protect yourself.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: flyingace on February 28, 2019, 01:28:13 PM
Please spell check, there are a couple of capitalization mistakes. Also "have been lost BY not TO" in the opening sentence. Also maybe run it by an experienced marketing person to fine tune the effectiveness...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 01:30:53 PM
i would change the font of the words in the block boxes; to me it doesnít have a serious enough feel to it. Get what Iím saying?
Ye, It's just that I'm using a very limited online graphics program (postermywall), I can't italicize, bold or underline 1 single word... So every small change takes a looooong time.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
Please spell check, there are a couple of capitalization mistakes. Also "have been lost BY not TO" in the opening sentence. Also maybe run it by an experienced marketing person to fine tune the effectiveness...
Final wording, spelling and grammatical errors still being worked on. I don't know of a professional marketing guy... Again, we just want to convey awareness to our communities. 
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: mmgfarb on February 28, 2019, 01:37:12 PM
From a marketing standpoint, there is nothing right about that.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 01:39:51 PM
From a marketing standpoint, there is nothing right about that.
Care to elaborate? What's not 'right'?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehudaa on February 28, 2019, 01:49:28 PM
Care to elaborate? What's not 'right'?
I think he meant that "we just want to convey awareness to out community" doesn't mean that you don't have to market it. Good marketing will make people take it seriously.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on February 28, 2019, 01:54:28 PM
The main thing is to get the message out. Hope this thread doesnít turn into a long debate and than nothing happening
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: flyingace on February 28, 2019, 01:56:56 PM
If not done right, it will help very few. Do you really give weight to anonymous proclamations in the newspapers/flyers? I actually like the original version better than the later one. Looks more real to me...but I know nothing about marketing!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 02:01:11 PM
The main thing is to get the message out. Hope this thread doesnít turn into a long debate and than nothing happening
Ye, that's why I don't feel the need to make this all professional, spend too much time on it,  and deeply analyze all pointers listed. it may be only 5 pointers, but all are true examples of how ppl were ripped off, I've heard many personal stories myself.  It's obvious there's so much more to eleborate on, Most ppl understand that there's the selling of points involved where ppl profit off of credit card spending, so there's no need to mention in the ad how this works... This is just meant to enlighten ppl to think a little deeper before signing up for one of those deadly traps. And now, with the few big cases going on, is the time to get it in the papers. Within a month , it will be old news...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 02:04:28 PM
If not done right, it will help very few. Do you really give weight to anonymous proclamations in the newspapers/flyers? I actually like the original version better than the later one. Looks more real to me...but I know nothing about marketing!
You could be right. black on white may just be enough. The word sizing, layout, and font do make a difference though... I'm open to anyone creating their own version and voting on it. As long as this doesn't drag on and end in no place...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: ckmk47 on February 28, 2019, 02:46:47 PM
I think the ad is too vague about the reason " millions of dollars have been lost" and why people have to declare bankruptcy.
and "They are lying." is too strong to say about your erlliche brother inlaw. Add a sentence that

"Even if the user of the card is an erliche yid, with a seemingly good business, something may happen that makes him unable to pay the card even for one month and that will cost YOU interest.  And if they stop being able to pay your card at all, YOU are responsible to pay off the cc with YOUR money. "

Perhaps also add that they will not legally be able to dispute the charges.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on February 28, 2019, 02:55:29 PM
I think the ad is too vague about the reason " millions of dollars have been lost" and why people have to declare bankruptcy.
and "They are lying." is too strong to say about your erlliche brother inlaw. Add a sentence that

"Even if the user of the card is an erliche yid, with a seemingly good business, something may happen that makes him unable to pay the card even for one month and that will cost YOU interest.  And if they stop being able to pay your card at all, YOU are responsible to pay off the cc with YOUR money. "

Perhaps also add that they will not legally be able to dispute the charges.
+1

That was the main thing I wanted to convey. I skipped the design and let the words speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on February 28, 2019, 03:10:41 PM
Perhaps also add that they will not legally be able to dispute the charges.
This might be the most important part, since this is probably the reason people don't view it as an unsecured loan.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: lubaby on February 28, 2019, 05:01:15 PM
This might be the most important part, since this is probably the reason people don't view it as an unsecured loan.
Maybe add the line from DDMS:
If you wouldnít hand over a briefcase full of cash to someone, then donít hand over your credit card.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: SSLPhD on February 28, 2019, 05:54:20 PM
It feels very abstract, and too many exclamation marks!!! to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 06:15:32 PM
Ok guys! I think you're going to like this one! A fellow DDFer (who would like to remain anonymous) took the time to create a truly polished ad! Pls share your comments/critique. I think this is it!! @dan do we need your permission for using some of your wording in this??
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: SSLPhD on February 28, 2019, 06:40:43 PM
I like.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: grodnoking on February 28, 2019, 06:43:12 PM
Ok guys! I think you're going to like this one! A fellow DDFer (who would like to remain anonymous) took the time to create a truly polished ad! Pls share your comments/critique. I think this is it!! @dan do we need your permission for using some of your wording in this??
Is this ad open for distribution (for me that would be to post on social media)?

Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehudaa on February 28, 2019, 06:46:21 PM
Is this ad open for distribution (for me that would be to post on social media)?

@Dan do we need your permission for using some of your wording in this??
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 06:58:26 PM
Is this ad open for distribution (for me that would be to post on social media)?
Still waiting on other's opinions... Can those in favor like or +1?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: flyingace on February 28, 2019, 07:08:59 PM
Like.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: nescafe on February 28, 2019, 07:20:56 PM
Ok guys! I think you're going to like this one! A fellow DDFer (who would like to remain anonymous) took the time to create a truly polished ad! Pls share your comments/critique. I think this is it!! @Dan do we need your permission for using some of your wording in this??
+1
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on February 28, 2019, 07:21:49 PM
Pretty decent considering the budget.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: mmgfarb on February 28, 2019, 07:26:23 PM
Ok guys! I think you're going to like this one! A fellow DDFer (who would like to remain anonymous) took the time to create a truly polished ad! Pls share your comments/critique. I think this is it!! @Dan do we need your permission for using some of your wording in this??
Hell of a lot better than the last one 👍
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: ckmk47 on February 28, 2019, 07:30:12 PM
I like it a lot! The danger is expressed very well.

Some touch-up critique:

In the last paragraph:  connect sentence 2 and 3.  "youíll be left with the debt like lots of people who recently ,,,, "
And the last line:  Once youíve told them to stop charging your card, cancel that card so they canít charge you any more.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on February 28, 2019, 07:33:54 PM
Hell of a lot better than the last one
I'm gonna try not to get offended... Professional Writing was never my thing! But I'm glad we all shared our comments and opinions and made real progress here!! Let's hope we see this in all papers next week!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on February 28, 2019, 07:47:06 PM
I'm gonna try not to get offended... Professional Writing was never my thing! But I'm glad we all shared our comments and opinions and made real progress here!! Let's hope we see this in all papers next week!
it was ur initiative so u get the credit! Kal hakavod!!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yosefsv on February 28, 2019, 07:59:02 PM
Should it be more mentioned in the sub header that this ad is 'due to the recent stories in our community'?
The people that we are targeting didn't hear a lot about the ongoing stories, so it may grab their attention and talk more about it.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on February 28, 2019, 08:03:38 PM
Should it be more mentioned in the sub header that this ad is 'due to the recent stories in our community'?

Had the same thought. Needs more of שלא תמות כדרך שמת פלוני.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: tzifanya54 on February 28, 2019, 08:08:33 PM
Had the same thought. Needs more of שלא תמות כדרך שמת פלוני.
+1
Great add, but that needs to be added. It drives the point home.

Donít want to stir the pot here... (but we all know @aygart signature). I wonder if mayser can be used... this is for the sole cheesed of saving another yid from financial ruin.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on February 28, 2019, 08:28:32 PM
I'm gonna try not to get offended... Professional Writing was never my thing! But I'm glad we all shared our comments and opinions and made real progress here!! Let's hope we see this in all papers next week!
Nah he was talking about mine ;)
Either way I think it would also be very good if you can attach the file for people to print and hang up in their shuls.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Moshe123 on February 28, 2019, 08:44:22 PM
I like it
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Redbull3 on February 28, 2019, 09:17:05 PM
Just an idea what if you include a vanity URL that redirects to Dan's DDMS post or to the PSA thread? Something like check out AvoidFrumScammers.com for more information/a discussion on this topic
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Redbull3 on February 28, 2019, 09:17:45 PM
That's a good idea. Free publicity. Which publications are willing to publish letters that aren't following up on an article?
FJJ (Flatbush Jewish Journal) for one
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zh cohen on February 28, 2019, 09:23:39 PM
Maybe some more clarity on why disputing won't work?

Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zh cohen on February 28, 2019, 09:32:37 PM
Just an idea what if you include a vanity URL that redirects to Dan's DDMS post or to the PSA thread? Something like check out AvoidFrumScammers.com for more information/a discussion on this topic

I think calling them scammers takes away from the power of the ad. The point is that it's not safe even if the "borrower" is well meaning.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on February 28, 2019, 09:41:11 PM
Just an idea what if you include a vanity URL that redirects to Dan's DDMS post or to the PSA thread? Something like check out AvoidFrumScammers.com for more information/a discussion on this topic
QR code?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: YesThatsMe on February 28, 2019, 09:48:53 PM
Ok guys! I think you're going to like this one! A fellow DDFer (who would like to remain anonymous) took the time to create a truly polished ad! Pls share your comments/critique. I think this is it!! @Dan do we need your permission for using some of your wording in this??

An Ehrliche businessmAn
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: etech0 on February 28, 2019, 09:56:18 PM
I like.
+1
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2019, 10:29:31 PM
Ok guys! I think you're going to like this one! A fellow DDFer (who would like to remain anonymous) took the time to create a truly polished ad! Pls share your comments/critique. I think this is it!! @Dan do we need your permission for using some of your wording in this??
Looks good, is that a " instead of a ' in wouldn't though?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2019, 10:32:13 PM
Just an idea what if you include a vanity URL that redirects to Dan's DDMS post or to the PSA thread? Something like check out AvoidFrumScammers.com for more information/a discussion on this topic
http://bit.ly/CardLending
http://bit.ly/CardPSA
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: etech0 on February 28, 2019, 10:33:06 PM
Maybe CreditCardLending or CreditCardPSA?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2019, 10:34:01 PM
Maybe CreditCardLending or CreditCardPSA?
Was trying to make it short, but could.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on February 28, 2019, 11:05:48 PM
http://tiny.cc/DontBeAVictim
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on February 28, 2019, 11:59:45 PM
I think calling them scammers takes away from the power of the ad. The point is that it's not safe even if the "borrower" is well meaning.
+1
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on March 01, 2019, 12:00:59 AM
I like it a lot! The danger is expressed very well.

Some touch-up critique:

In the last paragraph:  connect sentence 2 and 3.  "youíll be left with the debt like lots of people who recently ,,,, "
And the last line:  Once youíve told them to stop charging your card, cancel that card so they canít charge you any more.
Maskim to 2 but not 1
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 01, 2019, 12:30:57 AM
We need way more pledges as well. $40 ain't buying anything
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on March 01, 2019, 12:32:22 AM
We need way more pledges as well. $40 ain't buying anything
I say this only half jokingly, but if you turn it into a raffle of sorts, I'm sure you'd raise more.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on March 01, 2019, 12:33:56 AM
Wouldn't it be helpful just passing the ad around on social media?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 01, 2019, 12:34:00 AM
I say this only half jokingly, but if you turn it into a raffle of sorts, I'm sure you'd raise more.
I think if we spend a little on these ads then we might save alot more by not needing charity, GoFundMe, etc campaigns for friends and neighbors that lost everything due to this
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 01, 2019, 12:38:11 AM
We need way more pledges as well. $40 ain't buying anything
I already have 1 Lakewood paper offering a free ad (via a DDFer) , so that's a start! I haven't reached out to any papers yet...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehuda57 on March 01, 2019, 01:21:50 AM
We need way more pledges as well. $40 ain't buying anything
How much are you hoping to collect for an ad to be published once or twice in a handful of publications?

Put that money into making a 1 minute video that can be shared on whatsapp and will be picked up for free by every website, that would have a far greater reach and impact.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 01, 2019, 01:24:08 AM
How much are you hoping to collect for an ad to be published once or twice in a handful of publications?

Put that money into making a 1 minute video that can be shared on whatsapp and will be picked up for free by every website, that would have a far greater reach and impact.
I hear...  I'm not someone that's good at that. But I am ready to chip in to whatever is needed to bring awareness. I know a few people first hand that got screwed over the years. And I actually tried warning them. But hopefully this PSA will help even one person.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on March 01, 2019, 02:08:53 AM
I hear...  I'm not someone that's good at that. But I am ready to chip in to whatever is needed to bring awareness. I know a few people first hand that got screwed over the years. And I actually tried warning them. But hopefully this PSA will help even one person.
maybe solicit funds from the victims u know...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on March 01, 2019, 02:10:08 AM
Wouldn't it be helpful just passing the ad around on social media?
for sure, everyone shud fwd to WhatsApp groups etc..
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Z56 on March 01, 2019, 02:13:52 AM
How much are you hoping to collect for an ad to be published once or twice in a handful of publications?

Put that money into making a 1 minute video that can be shared on whatsapp and will be picked up for free by every website, that would have a far greater reach and impact.

I like this idea!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: moisheyb on March 01, 2019, 06:02:49 AM
I like this idea!
+1
The add is great but I'll 2nd to adding don't get messed over like so many people recently.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on March 01, 2019, 07:24:06 AM
maybe solicit funds from the victims u know...
I'm sure they have plenty of cash to donate
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 01, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
Okay, here's the updated ad, which incorporates all of your suggestions except two of them. Some sentences have been changed a bit. If any of these changes are outvoted, he'll gladly switch it back...

Questions/opinions from the designer:
1. Does ehrliche need to be capitalized? 

2. While adding a website can be useful, I don't know if it's the best idea:

a. I think that getting a URL like frumcreditproject.com or something will look very professional on the ad, but then when someone visits it and it redirects to a DDMS post I think we'll lose trust at that point because presumably people would go online thinking that we're some organization with a website and info of our own, and just get redirected to someone else's article.

b. Dan's article begins with talking about how amazing points and miles are, which is a great way to start with DD people but kinda off-topic for someone who might've just seen an ad offering $10k or a tuition break for signing up for credit cards. 

c. Like another DDFer said, Dan calls this "The latest scheme that people are falling for" and refers to it as a scam, which might make someone just shut it out if it's their ehrliche brother-in-law or the guy that sits in front of them at night seder.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: flyingace on March 01, 2019, 10:04:47 AM
Print ads are important because many people who are attracted to these offers do not use social media/Whatsapp.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on March 01, 2019, 10:12:36 AM
Print ads are important because many people who are attracted to these offers do not use social media/Whatsapp.
+1
But ads are expensive, I highly doubt we'll get more than 1 or 2 if any.  That's why I think everyone should hang up this sign on their shul bulletin board.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 01, 2019, 10:14:31 AM
In the first paragraph, instead of "you'll be left", perhaps write "you can be left".
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: flyingace on March 01, 2019, 10:18:34 AM
+1
But ads are expensive, I highly doubt we'll get more than 1 or 2 if any.  That's why I think everyone should hang up this sign on their shul bulletin board.
Great idea and easy!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: stooges44 on March 01, 2019, 10:21:39 AM
Maybe make some bullet points of the highlights (for the millennials whose attention span is that of the latest commercials)  like:

etc.. Just a thought

Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 01, 2019, 10:24:43 AM
+1
But ads are expensive, I highly doubt we'll get more than 1 or 2 if any.  That's why I think everyone should hang up this sign on their shul bulletin board.
I am counting on free ads, being that this ad is L'tovas Klal....
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on March 01, 2019, 10:27:53 AM
In the first paragraph, instead of "you'll be left", perhaps write "you can be left".
I think "you'll be" is more accurate and "scary". Although I do think it shouldn't be abbreviated, it should be spelled out fully.
Questions/opinions from the designer:
1. Does ehrliche need to be capitalized?

I don't think so. But anyways in general I don't think the grammar has to be perfect. It's not like anyone paid for this. I think it's fine just the way it is.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on March 01, 2019, 10:31:08 AM
Print ads are important because many people who are attracted to these offers do not use social media/Whatsapp.
had that thought too
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on March 01, 2019, 10:33:51 AM
Also I think another big thing has been overlooked. We will need this to be translated to Yiddish.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 01, 2019, 10:35:37 AM
Also I think another big thing has been overlooked. We will need this to be translated to Yiddish.
Yes yes! My husband told me that's important. I'll ask the guy if he writes yiddish, or if anyone is a good yiddish writer, can help in translating.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 01, 2019, 10:36:36 AM
I think "you'll be" is more accurate.
Not if the person knows someone who signed up and wans't scammed.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on March 01, 2019, 10:56:13 AM
Not if the person knows someone who signed up and wans't scammed.
I meant based on the rest of the sentence.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: ruv on March 01, 2019, 11:10:58 AM
Iím connected with a magazine and would gladly make a full fledged interview with victims for the purpose of awareness, free of charge.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: aygart on March 01, 2019, 11:18:04 AM
How much are you hoping to collect for an ad to be published once or twice in a handful of publications?

Put that money into making a 1 minute video that can be shared on whatsapp and will be picked up for free by every website, that would have a far greater reach and impact.
+100000000000000000000

It will be much more effective to make some sort of meme to go viral and link to Dan's article than an ad which won't reach nearly enough people and even of those who see it most won't even read it.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2019, 11:25:23 AM
+100000000000000000000

It will be much more effective to make some sort of meme to go viral and link to Dan's article than an ad which won't reach nearly enough people and even of those who see it most won't even read it.
Porque no los dos?
Especially if papers will give free ads?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on March 01, 2019, 11:38:24 AM
If there's a reference to stories that have happened recently, it can't be too vague or that won't be takes seriously.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Redbull3 on March 01, 2019, 11:43:37 AM
http://bit.ly/CardLending
http://bit.ly/CardPSA
I was thinking of something.com since these are print ads
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 01, 2019, 11:44:58 AM
Iím connected with a magazine and would gladly make a full fledged interview with victims for the purpose of awareness, free of charge.
Put that on the PSA thread
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Redbull3 on March 01, 2019, 11:47:39 AM
2. While adding a website can be useful, I don't know if it's the best idea:

a. I think that getting a URL like frumcreditproject.com or something will look very professional on the ad, but then when someone visits it and it redirects to a DDMS post I think we'll lose trust at that point because presumably people would go online thinking that we're some organization with a website and info of our own, and just get redirected to someone else's article.
This is a good point but we can be transparent about it? "This ad was paid for by members of the dansdeals community. For more information on this topic, you can access the discussion directly at whatever.com". Again just a thought, not married to it.
I like this idea and will add my name to pledge B'N but thinking we would first like to know what the target $$$ needed is
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: ckmk47 on March 01, 2019, 11:48:16 AM
In the first paragraph, instead of "you'll be left", perhaps write "you can be left".
"you'll be left" is a curse.
"you can be left" is the possibility. Even though it's less threatening.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 01, 2019, 11:54:06 AM
+100000000000000000000

It will be much more effective to make some sort of meme to go viral and link to Dan's article than an ad which won't reach nearly enough people and even of those who see it most won't even read it.
Anyone is welcome to create a video if they would like! An ad in the papers will definitely be seen and read by many! I also feel like we'll be seeing soon enough an article in the Ami or Mishpacha and that will further enlighten everyone.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LNS on March 01, 2019, 11:56:00 AM
Quote
3. and anyone who has connections to the papers to bargain a better price as these ads are very costly... Especially if we want to run a full page ad and be in the most papers possible. Being that this is an awareness ad, papers will hopefully be inclined to offer a better rate, a free ad would really be nice...
If anybody would like to contribute please reply, send me a PM, and let's make this happen!! Thank You dan for spreading awareness!


@chayal101 PM sent
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yesitwasme on March 01, 2019, 12:03:17 PM
@chayal101

Can we get some sort of an idea how much these ads costs

Like that we can raise accordingly


Iím a victim here and we need to get the community awareness
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: cmey on March 01, 2019, 12:06:14 PM
Anyone is welcome to create a video if they would like! An ad in the papers will definitely be seen and read by many! I also feel like we'll be seeing soon enough an article in the Ami or Mishpacha and that will further enlighten everyone.

ďFeelĒ? Has anyone reached out to them to suggest they go with it?

I would guess that a disproportionate number of potential victims get their info from print media so I think you are on target with the print ad....
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehuda57 on March 01, 2019, 12:25:50 PM
The truth is, we just need to get Ben Shapiro to make a PSA. Every word he says is kodosh v'tahor
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Redbull3 on March 01, 2019, 12:29:18 PM
The truth is, we just need to get Ben Shapiro to make a PSA. Every word he says is kodosh v'tahor
Way too big of an audience we donít need/want national attention on this issue
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehuda57 on March 01, 2019, 12:31:59 PM
Way too big of an audience we donít need/want national attention on this issue
It's a joke
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Redbull3 on March 01, 2019, 12:37:14 PM
It's a joke
Oh durf my bad
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: mmgfarb on March 01, 2019, 12:47:03 PM
The truth is, we just need to get Ben Shapiro to make a PSA. Every word he says is kodosh v'tahor
LOL
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 01, 2019, 01:08:21 PM
This is a good point but we can be transparent about it? "This ad was paid for by members of the dansdeals community. For more information on this topic, you can access the discussion directly at whatever.com". Again just a thought, not married to it.
I like this idea and will add my name to pledge B'N but thinking we would first like to know what the target $$$ needed is
Like I said, I'm aiming for free or discounted ads, so hopefully the $$ won't be so relevant. If after reaching out to papers, depending on what they offer, we'll see how much it's costing and take it from there.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: etech0 on March 01, 2019, 01:25:02 PM
2. While adding a website can be useful, I don't know if it's the best idea:

a. I think that getting a URL like frumcreditproject.com or something will look very professional on the ad, but then when someone visits it and it redirects to a DDMS post I think we'll lose trust at that point because presumably people would go online thinking that we're some organization with a website and info of our own, and just get redirected to someone else's article.
So maybe we can get dansdeals.com/CreditCardPSA? That solves that issue.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2019, 01:28:54 PM
So maybe we can get dansdeals.com/CreditCardPSA? That solves that issue.
https://www.dansdeals.com/go/CreditCardWarning
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: etech0 on March 01, 2019, 03:40:27 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/go/CreditCardWarning
like!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zale on March 02, 2019, 07:37:47 PM
How much are you hoping to collect for an ad to be published once or twice in a handful of publications?

Put that money into making a 1 minute video that can be shared on whatsapp and will be picked up for free by every website, that would have a far greater reach and impact.

It should be both.

Williamsburg/Satmar generally donít use smartphones/internet, especially the Yeshiva and Kollel Yungerleit. As others have stated, the warning should also be in Yiddish.

Also, Iíve suggested that the publications running ads for these credit card swipers need to be made aware that they are complicit in causing tremendous damage to Jews by allowing such ads. If people see such posters hanging in their shul or on lampposts and trees (which is common in Brooklyn) they should take them down. (Or ask someone with authority in the shul to take it down) This is the only way to eradicate this toxic practice.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LNS on March 02, 2019, 08:49:38 PM
How much are you hoping to collect for an ad to be published once or twice in a handful of publications?

Put that money into making a 1 minute video that can be shared on whatsapp and will be picked up for free by every website, that would have a far greater reach and impact.

most of these ads for signing up are in local papers or magazines and are obviously doing a great job attracting people that said i think a video would get a lot of views but its important to target the same places the scammers are
It should be both.

As others have stated, the warning should also be in Yiddish.

^ VERY IMPORTANT
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 01:11:36 AM
From the designer:

"Also, upon thinking about it more I think that we lose a certain level of professionalism and community-wide relevance if the sign associates with dansdeals. People might dissociate with it If they don't think DD is a thing"

Personally, I agree with guy who put together the ad to omit a link to dansdeals post. The ad itself puts forth the main message very clearly! And for somebody who mentioned to write 'paid for by...' nobody over here is looking for any credit/recognition in organizing this ad. Who's with me on omitting the link? And Leaving ad as is? (I think the guy is still making some minor final touch ups...)
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Dan on March 03, 2019, 01:17:17 AM
"Also, upon thinking about it more I think that we lose a certain level of professionalism and community-wide relevance if the sign associates with dansdeals. People might dissociate with it If they don't think DD is a thing"
Don't know what this means.

Personally, I agree with guy who put together the ad to omit a link to dansdeals post. The ad itself puts forth the main message very clearly! And for somebody who mentioned to write 'paid for by...' nobody over here is looking for any credit/recognition in organizing this ad. Who's with me on omitting the link? And Leaving ad as is? (I think the guy is still making some minor final touch ups...)
Not saying who you are means that people wonder who is behind this and what their agenda might be.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 01:24:56 AM
Don't know what this means.
Not saying who you are means that people wonder who is behind this and what their agenda might be.
It does say on the top in small letterings: 'Urgent message from concerned members of our community' Isn't that enough??
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Eliyohu on March 03, 2019, 09:59:20 AM
I think a link would make it more legit, without people speculating who's behind it etc but otherwise it's perfect
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: SSLPhD on March 03, 2019, 09:59:40 AM
It does say on the top in small letterings: 'Urgent message from concerned members of our community' Isn't that enough??
I think it's enough.  To me, including a link says "hidden agenda."
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 10:15:05 AM
I think a link would make it more legit, without people speculating who's behind it etc but otherwise it's perfect
this was already posted on Kol Haolam? We never confirmed final ad.. I guess someone just shared it... Can we get a vote? yes link or no link?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: regular on March 03, 2019, 10:15:29 AM
Made it to Kollel Haolam WA staus
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 10:20:26 AM
Shld we just settle on 2 versions of the ad? 1 with link and 1 without so everyone can feel free to share on social media whichever ad they like better? I think on social media it's fine to include a link, but I wouldn't print it in the papers.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Eliyohu on March 03, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
this was already posted on Kol Haolam? We never confirmed final ad.. I guess someone just shared it... Can we get a vote? yes link or no link?
Yes, on their status.. I was surprised, I thought you'd post here first the final ad
I think it's enough.  To me, including a link says "hidden agenda."
I think no link and "concerned community members" says "hidden agenda" loud and clear. when there's a link it's very easy to see who's behind it then one can decide what the intentions are. I personally think a link to Dan's article is very credible and understandable where it's coming from. Concerned community members sounds like it's coming directly from someone who got screwed and there's another side to the story which may or may not be true...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on March 03, 2019, 10:53:55 AM
Originally I was of the opinion there shouldn't be a link. I couldn't explain the exact reason why I felt so.

Although I now think eliyohu is right about this comment
I think no link and "concerned community members" says "hidden agenda" loud and clear. when there's a link it's very easy to see who's behind it then one can decide what the intentions are. I personally think a link to Dan's article is very credible and understandable where it's coming from. Concerned community members sounds like it's coming directly from someone who got screwed and there's another side to the story which may or may not be true...

But I still sort of feel like the bit.ly link should be used and should just say "for a more detailed report"
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 11:10:41 AM
Next step: Papers to publish in-
Boro Park-
Yaated
Hamodia
Weekly Link
Torah Times
Luach Hatzibur- (they should also be called to STOP printing ads from these companies)
Kol Berama
 
Please add papers in your community. Maybe someone can add these to wiki and everyone can add/edit accordingly, so we're not bomarded with new messages on this? I can't add it myself as I'm using Tapatalk.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: nescafe on March 03, 2019, 11:15:33 AM
Next step: Papers to publish in-
Boro Park-
Yaated
Hamodia
Weekly Link
Torah Times
Luach Hatzibur- (they should also be called to STOP printing ads from these companies)
Kol Berama
 
Please add papers in your community. Maybe someone can add these to wiki and everyone can add/edit accordingly, so we're not bomarded with new messages on this? I can't add it myself as I'm using Tapatalk.

For these you would need a Yiddish version
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 11:17:47 AM
For these you would need a Yiddish version
correct. Still looking for a yiddish translator.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
In today's paper...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zh cohen on March 03, 2019, 11:22:27 AM
this was already posted on Kol Haolam? We never confirmed final ad.. I guess someone just shared it... Can we get a vote? yes link or no link?

Yes link, and it should be the dansdeals.com one.

An anonymous ad is more like to be ignored
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yitzgar on March 03, 2019, 12:16:15 PM
Yes link, and it should be the dansdeals.com one.

An anonymous ad is more like to be ignored
+1
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: whYME on March 03, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Yes link, and it should be the dansdeals.com one.

An anonymous ad is more like to be ignored
+1

I don't see how a completely anonymous ad can possibly seen as more legitimate.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 03, 2019, 02:15:26 PM
Maybe people will think that Dan has a financial interest in bringing these people down.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on March 03, 2019, 02:47:32 PM
Maybe people will think that Dan has a financial interest in bringing these people down.
The reason why I think it shouldn't be the dansdeals one is a combination of a few reasons.

It's sort of like I think people will think of it as a low key ad somehow. Plus I don't think dansdeals is viewed as a news source so it will be a little distracting in my opinion. It will be like cnn explaining a gemara.

But I've been outvoted above. Statistics say listening to the majority is best :)
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: joey89 on March 03, 2019, 02:57:02 PM
Maybe people will think that Dan has a financial interest in bringing these people down.
Anything is possible, however Danís financial interest is more people applying for cards not less
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 03, 2019, 02:59:41 PM
Anything is possible, however Danís financial interest is more people applying for cards not less
I'd assume farmers have their own affiliate links. It's hard to know what people will think.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: joey89 on March 03, 2019, 03:02:27 PM
I'd assume farmers have their own affiliate links. It's hard to know what people will think.
Farmers yes, people applying to swipe to get sub plus swipe points will use the link that gives them a bigger sub and many frequent dans site
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehudaa on March 03, 2019, 03:02:34 PM
I may have thought that having a dansdeals link would make people think that it's an ad to drive traffic to DDMS. Like "Here's a summary of an interesting story. To read on, visit DDMS."
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zh cohen on March 03, 2019, 03:16:32 PM
Maybe people will think that Dan has a financial interest in bringing these people down.

And if it's anonymous, it can be anyone who has a financial interest in bringing them down.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: ruv on March 03, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
correct. Still looking for a yiddish translator.

Here you go.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 03, 2019, 04:06:56 PM
Here you go.
This yiddish is 18th century.  We need plain yiddish for these newspapers
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 03, 2019, 04:09:08 PM
This is the kind of Yiddish you use for ads.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 04:16:48 PM
This is the kind of Yiddish you use for ads.
+1 very well written! thanks @ruv
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 05:11:57 PM
Thanks to a truly amazing DDFer (who will remain anonymous) and all of your comments/contributions, We have put together an awareness ad, and this all came together really fast (this guy was working from Israel) which is unbelievable!!

"Here are the final copies of the English version in JPEG (PDF version coming shortly, if it's is easier for people to print) with the link and without. To everyone here: Please post in your shuls, yeshivas, whatsapp status, whatsapp groups, other social media and wherever else it can help spread awareness.

Also attached please find the Yiddish draft, using @ruv's translation. Please provide feedback/critique on the grammar, sentence/paragraph structure and also on the fonts and layout because I've never worked with Hebrew letters before. I'm open to any suggestions! Also, can someone review that I put all the right text in red? (I barely understand a word.)

I should be able to have the final Yiddish version ready tomorrow IYH."
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: eliraps on March 03, 2019, 06:20:25 PM
Can you please post the text of the yiddish so ppl can suggest edits easily
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 10:20:14 PM
Can you please post the text of the yiddish so ppl can suggest edits easily
@ruv posted the wording in a doc file. but i think it's written very well. Only the opening sentence bugs me.

is  א זעקל מיט געלט or, א רענצל Better for opening sentence? (instead of a שעכטל...) pls correct my yiddish spelling if necessary.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 03, 2019, 10:21:44 PM
Either is fine.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 03, 2019, 10:24:05 PM
guys, I need your help with papers, I only know Boro Park. Pls share your community's most popular daily/weekly paper, so that I can reach out to them. If anyone has any connections/pull with any papers pls let me know and help us get it in. I've gotten quite afew of PMs already offering free ads in some papers.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yesitsme on March 04, 2019, 12:39:15 AM
דרינגדע ריף
makes it sound like NYC health dept Yiddish flyers, get something in lashon kodash instead,
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: grodnoking on March 04, 2019, 02:29:32 AM
guys, I need your help with papers, I only know Boro Park. Pls share your community's most popular daily/weekly paper, so that I can reach out to them. If anyone has any connections/pull with any papers pls let me know and help us get it in. I've gotten quite afew of PMs already offering free ads in some papers.
There's that one long page paper with simchas on it they give out in Lakewood daily. Forgot what called. The readers of that may be the clientele for such a psa.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: aro123 on March 04, 2019, 10:15:27 AM
There's that one long page paper with simchas on it they give out in Lakewood daily. Forgot what called. The readers of that may be the clientele for such a psa.
vivaser
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 04, 2019, 11:29:51 AM
@ruv posted the wording in a doc file. but i think it's written very well. Only the opening sentence bugs me.

is  א זעקל מיט געלט or, א רענצל Better for opening sentence? (instead of a שעכטל...) pls correct my yiddish spelling if necessary.
i like this better
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chff on March 04, 2019, 12:01:37 PM
guys, I need your help with papers, I only know Boro Park. Pls share your community's most popular daily/weekly paper, so that I can reach out to them. If anyone has any connections/pull with any papers pls let me know and help us get it in. I've gotten quite afew of PMs already offering free ads in some papers.

BP
https://kolberama.net/
http://www.dailyluach.com/

Willy
http://www.dvaryoim.com/
https://gitmorgen.wordpress.com/

Monsey
http://jayper.com/product/kol-hatzibur-2/

KJ
http://jayper.com/product/hayoim-yoim/
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: stooges44 on March 04, 2019, 12:20:54 PM
BP
https://kolberama.net/
http://www.dailyluach.com/

Willy
http://www.dvaryoim.com/
https://gitmorgen.wordpress.com/

Monsey
http://jayper.com/product/kol-hatzibur-2/

KJ
http://jayper.com/product/hayoim-yoim/

FT:
https://www.fivetownsjewishhome.com/
http://www.5tjt.com/
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: S209 on March 04, 2019, 12:22:55 PM
guys, I need your help with papers, I only know Boro Park. Pls share your community's most popular daily/weekly paper, so that I can reach out to them. If anyone has any connections/pull with any papers pls let me know and help us get it in. I've gotten quite afew of PMs already offering free ads in some papers.
Lakewood:
The Voice (http://thevoiceoflakewood.com/)
The Shopper/Family Room (http://www.lakewoodshopper.com/)
BP (https://bpweekly.com/)
Lakewood Scoop (http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/)
Kol Hayom (http://hayomdaily.com/)
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: etech0 on March 04, 2019, 12:28:16 PM
Monsey
http://jayper.com/product/kol-hatzibur-2/
Also:
The Front Page
http://onthefrontpage.com/

The Monsey View
https://themonseyview.com/

Community Connections
https://www.thecommunityconnections.com/
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Eliyohu on March 04, 2019, 01:10:26 PM


Lakewood:
The Voice (http://thevoiceoflakewood.com/)
The Shopper/Family Room (http://www.lakewoodshopper.com/)
BP (https://bpweekly.com/)
Lakewood Scoop (http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/)
Kol Hayom (http://hayomdaily.com/)

GreaterLakewood.com
LNN Instagram
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Redbull3 on March 04, 2019, 07:19:13 PM
Flatbush Jewish Journal, Queens Jewish Link?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zh cohen on March 05, 2019, 12:26:40 AM
http://matzav.com/psa-a-warning-about-credit-cards/
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 05, 2019, 11:55:06 AM
UPDATE: I've reached out to a couple of papers and I'm getting overwhelmingly positive feedback. If you have any connections with papers in your community, please let me know. Yiddish ad is still being edited.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 05, 2019, 12:19:06 PM
sad to see front page of luach hatzibur now has an ad from angel of debt. sad that we got this.. :-[
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 05, 2019, 12:23:20 PM
sad to see front page of luach hatzibur now has an ad from angel of debt. sad that we got this.. :-[
And on page 10 they have an ad to 'earn $10k per couple, annually'..
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 05, 2019, 12:29:21 PM
And on page 10 they have an ad to 'earn $10k per couple, annually'..
i emailed luach hatzibur to remove that.  lets see if it helps...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 05, 2019, 01:31:31 PM
How about a Crown heights weekly paper? You think the community is enough aware of the situation...?

I've reached out to papers across Boro Park, Monsey, Lakewood, 5 Towns, & Flatbush. Some papers were not willing to print free of charge, and the cost is around $150-$200 for a 1/4th or half page size, I don't think we can collect enough funds for that, and it honestly wouldn't be worth our $ for just a one-time run, I would just stick with what we get for free, and hope that many papers publish it, and many ppl get to see it.

i'll have to put Williamsburg and all the heimishe daily flyers on hold for now until we have final Yiddish version. (And those papers are very important...)
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yosefsv on March 06, 2019, 12:11:31 AM
I tried to adjust the Yiddish version to a more Heimeshe Yiddish.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 06, 2019, 07:46:50 AM
I tried to adjust the Yiddish version to a more Heimeshe Yiddish.
You also need to include not to give a ssn.   People think that's different
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: lubaby on March 06, 2019, 09:38:02 AM
You also need to include not to give a ssn.   People think that's different
It is different. Itís even worse then giving a card.

A card you know your limits and can view everything online as itís happening. A SSN they open cards in your name with their contact and you might not know anything about it.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 06, 2019, 04:43:38 PM
Here's the final Yiddish ad. Please feel free to share, print, hang up in shuls, etc. first one is large file size for printing, 2nd is good for online/social media sharing. If you have any pull with the heimishe daily papers in your neighborhood, please reach out to them to publish. Thanks!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 06, 2019, 07:05:50 PM
i emailed luach hatzibur to remove that.  lets see if it helps...
It didn't help. They ran that ad again today.

For whoever wants to email them asking to stop running these ads, their email address is luachads@gmail.com
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: gingyguy on March 06, 2019, 08:46:57 PM
It didn't help. They ran that ad again today.

For whoever wants to email them asking to stop running these ads, their email address is luachads@gmail.com
email sent
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yesitsme on March 06, 2019, 10:25:03 PM
Here's the final Yiddish ad. Please feel free to share, print, hang up in shuls, etc. first one is large file size for printing, 2nd is good for online/social media sharing. If you have any pull with the heimishe daily papers in your neighborhood, please reach out to them to publish. Thanks!
Why is it so unclear
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 01:36:29 AM
Why is it so unclear
I don't know... Is the attached better? If it's still unclear, send me a PM, and I'll be happy to email you a clear copy.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Yehudaa on March 07, 2019, 01:37:24 AM
I don't know... Is the attached better? If it's still unclear, send me a PM, and I'll be happy to email you a clear copy.
Still unclear
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 01:38:39 AM
Still unclear
ok, thanks. I'll check it out via computer tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: zh cohen on March 07, 2019, 01:49:47 AM
Still unclear

Looks clear to me.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: yesitsme on March 07, 2019, 02:08:40 AM
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46084.msg945360#msg945360
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Ephraimh on March 07, 2019, 09:30:22 AM
Still unclear
Itís not a PDF
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 07, 2019, 10:15:45 AM
Nice to see the ad in the kol brama today.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Moshe123 on March 07, 2019, 10:18:52 AM
Nice to see the ad in the kol brama today.

quarter page. not too small to read?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 07, 2019, 10:19:44 AM
Better than nothing.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 10:42:14 AM
Full page ad in Williamsburg Bulletin, & Kol Berama, 1/4 size page, it is a bit too small to read... I'll ask designer to create a half page size for these kinds of papers. Also in black and white, the red letterings print in light grey... If anybody has the Torah Times, lemme know if it's in there... the other papers I reached out to said they'll 'try' printing it if they have extra room.... I guess they didn't have. Maybe next week.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Joel2 on March 07, 2019, 10:53:11 AM
Full page ad in Williamsburg Bulletin, & Kol Berama, 1/4 size page, it is a bit too small to read... I'll ask designer to create a half page size for these kinds of papers. Also in black and white, the red letterings print in light grey... If anybody has the Torah Times, lemme know if it's in there... the other papers I reached out to said they'll 'try' printing it if they have extra room.... I guess they didn't have. Maybe next week.
It's in the Torah Times as well.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 10:55:51 AM
It's in the Torah Times as well.
Thanks! happy to see that!!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Joel2 on March 07, 2019, 11:28:50 AM
Thanks! happy to see that!!
My wife saw the ad before me told me that the header is very catchy and got her to read the rest. Thought you would appreciate the feedback.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: jj1000 on March 07, 2019, 11:54:51 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ButuMUfHpVX/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1gbphujs5da14
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: stooges44 on March 07, 2019, 11:59:50 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ButuMUfHpVX/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1gbphujs5da14

No HT to @chayal101 ?  :P
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: jj1000 on March 07, 2019, 12:02:18 PM
No HT to @chayal101 ?  :P
We gave a good discount.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: stooges44 on March 07, 2019, 12:10:24 PM
We gave a good discount.

HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 12:23:43 PM
No HT to @chayal101 ?  :P
No need for HT, Thanks! Speaking of social media, if there are any "instagram influencers" out there, you can share on your stories/repost and use those hashtags on Dansdeals post, maybe it will start a chain reaction of getting others to share the message. I guess you should add "Spread the message" #dontbethenextvictim or something like that...
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 09:15:27 PM
Thank You to 'The Jewish Home' magazine in Five Towns for placing the ad.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Something Fishy on March 07, 2019, 09:27:11 PM
I gotta say, I'm incredibly impressed of what was pulled off in this thread. When I saw the original post my first thought was that this is a massive waste of time, but I'm happy to be proven very wrong.

Major kudos to @chayal101 for taking the initiative, to @ruv and everyone else who helped bring this to fruition, and to the publications running it for free or at a discount. Well done, and may it bring good results.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Naftuli19 on March 07, 2019, 09:28:40 PM
I gotta say, I'm incredibly impressed of what was pulled off in this thread. When I saw the original post my first thought was that this is a massive waste of time, but I'm happy to be proven very wrong.

Major kudos to @chayal101 for taking the initiative, to @ruv and everyone else who helped bring this to fruition, and to the publications running it for free or at a discount. Well done, and may it bring good results.
+1000
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 07, 2019, 10:20:21 PM
email sent
It's still there.

If anyone wants to ask them to stop running these ads, here's their email: luachads@gmail.com
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 10:33:04 PM
It's still there.

If anyone wants to ask them to stop running these ads, here's their email: luachads@gmail.com
I believe their manager is on vacation so there's nobody to talk to now, but we gotta keep on bugging them, there were 2 cc ads in the paper today!!...
I would like to to make a shout out to the daily paper Kol Berama in Boro Park, which used to have these ads running in their paper, and once they were made aware of what's going on, they immediately stopped. They were one of the first papers to reach out to me, asking for the ready ad to print!
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 07, 2019, 10:33:56 PM
#Respect
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 07, 2019, 10:37:18 PM
I gotta say, I'm incredibly impressed of what was pulled off in this thread. When I saw the original post my first thought was that this is a massive waste of time, but I'm happy to be proven very wrong.

Major kudos to @chayal101 for taking the initiative, to @ruv and everyone else who helped bring this to fruition, and to the publications running it for free or at a discount. Well done, and may it bring good results.
Thanks! TBH I didn't know that this could be pulled off either.... was just a thought, and with everyone's help/advice/critique we made it a reality.
From the humble DDFer who created the ad:  "As my wife said, if this saves even one person from financial ruin or even just one person from a load of debt I think it was all worth it. And I think and hope that it'll have more of an affect than that."
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: as2 on March 07, 2019, 11:15:02 PM
Maybe post email address of papers running the ads, and we can email them in waves. Might make our point.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: justaregularguy on March 07, 2019, 11:48:36 PM
Saw the ad in 5TJT (pg 113) full page ad. Very easy to read. Good job :)
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: LoLo on March 12, 2019, 05:11:05 PM
I believe their manager is on vacation
Is he still on vacation? the ad is still there.
 
If anyone wants to email them to stop running these ads, here's their email address: luachads@gmail.com
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: chayal101 on March 12, 2019, 05:13:48 PM
Is he still on vacation? the ad is still there.
 
I spoke to the manager before he left of vacation (and left a message as well..) He doesn't seem very 'bothered' by this... Everyone should continue calling them to stop printing.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Joel2 on March 12, 2019, 05:15:06 PM
I spoke to the manager before he left of vacation (and left a message as well..) He doesn't seem very 'bothered' by this... Everyone should continue calling them to stop printing.
Cell number?
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Luvisrael on March 17, 2019, 08:46:09 AM
Maybe this should be next http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2019/03/first-report-yet-another-frum-woman-falls-prey-to-scammers-and-empties-bank-account.html

http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2019/03/frightening-young-lakewood-woman-loses-nearly-all-her-money-to-scam-photos-audio.html
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Mordyk on March 17, 2019, 09:14:54 AM
Maybe this should be next http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2019/03/first-report-yet-another-frum-woman-falls-prey-to-scammers-and-empties-bank-account.html

http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2019/03/frightening-young-lakewood-woman-loses-nearly-all-her-money-to-scam-photos-audio.html
This is the originals. Gullible people will always fall for it
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Definitions on March 17, 2019, 10:35:54 AM
This is the originals. Gullible people will always fall for it
I've heard of versions of this scam that were done very well. For example they made believe that someone's close relative was kidnapped and they were about to kill them if no money was given to them. They knew the names of all people and they had guys screaming to make it sound real.

Honestly I think I can fall for such a scam.
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: mmgfarb on March 17, 2019, 06:36:23 PM
I gotta say, I'm incredibly impressed of what was pulled off in this thread. When I saw the original post my first thought was that this is a massive waste of time, but I'm happy to be proven very wrong.

Major kudos to @chayal101 for taking the initiative, to @ruv and everyone else who helped bring this to fruition, and to the publications running it for free or at a discount. Well done, and may it bring good results.
+1
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: Naftuli19 on March 20, 2019, 04:04:52 PM
https://issuu.com/themonseyview/docs/issue_191_low_res/118
Title: Re: Ad Campaign for spreading awareness anti credit card swiping businesses!
Post by: ckmk47 on March 28, 2019, 01:24:55 AM

The word is getting out.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2075895#msg2075895