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Title: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on March 19, 2019, 01:22:39 PM
Starbucks is making changes to their rewards program and part of that is a slight devaluation of stars, but they also add options:

- A free Drink (i.e. frappucino, lattes, etc) is now 150 stars instead of 125 (stars are usually 2 for every dollar spent, so now you will need to spend $75 instead of $62.50 to get a free drink (assuming no bonus stars).

- However, they are also adding new options - brewed coffee is now only 50 stars. (Previously, if you wanted a brewed coffee, you'd have to use 125 stars, so it wasn't worth it). Essentially a free cup of regular coffee for every $25 spent.

They are also going to have other options as well in terms of food and customizations that you can use stars for.

The change takes place on 4/16, so you might want to use your stars now.

https://www.starbucks.com/rewards/comingsoon
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on May 03, 2019, 08:56:35 AM
Apparently, a misto (coffee with steamed milk) codes at a 50 star item. You can then add a shot of espresso (presumably more than one), and it still codes as 50. This is the hot drink I get the most and it used to be 125.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on May 03, 2019, 09:37:59 AM
Yes, for people who primarily get plain coffee it's better. I think I need to try this with Iced Coffee over the summer and see how much it is.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on May 03, 2019, 09:50:31 AM
Yes, for people who primarily get plain coffee it's better. I think I need to try this with Iced Coffee over the summer and see how much it is.
My point is it even works for this non plain coffee drink. You can bacially build a drink that's close to a latte for 50 stars by adding steamed milk and 3 shots to coffee.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on May 03, 2019, 09:51:49 AM
$8 version for 50 stars.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Dan on May 03, 2019, 12:21:19 PM
Where does that fall on this list?
https://www.star-k.org/articles/kosher-lists/1709/starbucks/
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: stooges44 on May 03, 2019, 12:22:40 PM
Where does that fall on this list?
https://www.star-k.org/articles/kosher-lists/1709/starbucks/

Is this old or new? It's not dated...
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on May 03, 2019, 12:22:57 PM
Where does that fall on this list?
https://www.star-k.org/articles/kosher-lists/1709/starbucks/
It's hot espresso + hot coffee + hot milk.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Dan on May 03, 2019, 12:24:32 PM
It's hot espresso + hot coffee + hot milk.
So only acceptable while traveling according to the Star-K...
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Dan on May 03, 2019, 12:24:47 PM
Is this old or new? It's not dated...
They keep it updated.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: stooges44 on May 03, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
They keep it updated.


This, which is linked on that page is almost a year old though: https://www.star-k.org/articles/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Starbucks_Recommendations_July2018.pdf
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Redbull3 on May 06, 2019, 11:42:35 AM
Apparently, a misto (coffee with steamed milk) codes at a 50 star item. You can then add a shot of espresso (presumably more than one), and it still codes as 50. This is the hot drink I get the most and it used to be 125.
You my friend are a true ddfer. Great Kup (no pun intended) and just saved me a lot of money.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on May 06, 2019, 03:32:07 PM
You my friend are a true ddfer. Great Kup (no pun intended) and just saved me a lot of money.
Wasn't intentional! One day while I was mobile ordering intending to pay, I saw it came up as a 50 star item. I decided to try it out and sure enough, it went through.

Odd that iced coffee comes in at 150 but a misto is 50. Decided I need to use up my stars pretty quickly before they find the hole and fill it.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on May 07, 2019, 09:45:46 AM
Wasn't intentional! One day while I was mobile ordering intending to pay, I saw it came up as a 50 star item. I decided to try it out and sure enough, it went through.

Odd that iced coffee comes in at 150 but a misto is 50. Decided I need to use up my stars pretty quickly before they find the hole and fill it.

Almost makes me want to order a misto, and then after paying say -'hey, can you pour that over ice?' :)
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Redbull3 on May 07, 2019, 11:12:59 AM
Almost makes me want to order a misto, and then after paying say -'hey, can you pour that over ice?' :)
I'll have a misto with 4 shots over ice in a venti cup, and you know what, hold the coffeee  ;D
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2019, 11:33:27 AM
I'll have a misto with 4 shots over ice in a venti cup, and you know what, hold the coffeee  ;D
ALOL! Who's going to be the first try this  ;D
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Dan on May 22, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
Apparently, a misto (coffee with steamed milk) codes at a 50 star item. You can then add a shot of espresso (presumably more than one), and it still codes as 50. This is the hot drink I get the most and it used to be 125.
Now on SD. Hope y'all had a fun run.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Dan on May 22, 2019, 03:47:29 PM
I'll have a misto with 4 shots over ice in a venti cup, and you know what, hold the coffeee  ;D
Anyone tried this yet?
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: yuds70 on May 22, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
Anyone tried this yet?
I would have by now, but only have 49 stars....

ETA: I have asked them to separate extra shots from the coffee before when redeeming rewards - they were not happy to - but they did in the end as a 'one time' favor.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on May 23, 2019, 07:57:02 AM
I did find out that apparently cold brew is included in the free refill program. So you can buy a Brewed coffee, spill it out, and then get a cold brew refill.

YMMV, as while officially refills should be allowed to go between hot and cold drinks, I have found that most baristas do not know this and will I sit that if you ordered a hot drink, your refill can only be hot, but they would be wrong.

I don't know if free refills work on award drinks. I have never tried.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: voldemort on May 23, 2019, 11:29:34 AM
I don't know if free refills work on award drinks. I have never tried.
Of course they do, the refill has nothing to do with your original drink. Starbucks sells refills for .54 cents, But itís free for (gold?)Members as long as itís rung up as a refill.

Now what you can do is get a brewed coffee with 50 stars,drink/spill it out and than get an iced coffee refill for free.
50 stars instead of 150
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Redbull3 on May 23, 2019, 11:40:20 AM
Anyone tried this yet?
Lol it's a little too nutty no. But my DW usual (about 2x a week) is a venti misto anyway with sf cinamon dolce syrup that usually runs $4.40ish so it's a great value for us to get that for 50 stars (vs using 125 stars on my $7.30ish drink pre-change). So we owe a debt of gratitude to @shaulyaakov
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on May 26, 2019, 06:29:45 PM
Tried hacking this a little myself.
I got a brewed coffee
Almond milk
Cinnamon Dolce syrup,
Two shots of espresso
For 50 stars.

I ordered via the app, and then when I came in I asked for a cup of ice. Poured the coffee over the ice and Voila!

Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: unicorn_cactus on June 06, 2019, 11:08:54 PM
Of course they do, the refill has nothing to do with your original drink. Starbucks sells refills for .54 cents, But itís free for (gold?)Members as long as itís rung up as a refill.

Now what you can do is get a brewed coffee with 50 stars,drink/spill it out and than get an iced coffee refill for free.
50 stars instead of 150

I am ashamed to admit that I do this. I at least try to be discreet and pretend to drink a little hot coffee. I guess I am the epitome of frugality or simply being cheap.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 07, 2019, 10:25:13 AM
I am ashamed to admit that I do this. I at least try to be discreet and pretend to drink a little hot coffee. I guess I am the epitome of frugality or simply being cheap.
Is there an issur of Bal Tashchis here? Not sure it's worth violating the issur for the sake of $3-4.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on June 07, 2019, 12:19:10 PM
I am ashamed to admit that I do this. I at least try to be discreet and pretend to drink a little hot coffee. I guess I am the epitome of frugality or simply being cheap.

As I mentioned above, almost all starbucks will give you a cup of ice - just ask for a cup of Ice when you pick up your drink and pour it over.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 11, 2019, 12:49:38 PM
As I mentioned above, almost all starbucks will give you a cup of ice - just ask for a cup of Ice when you pick up your drink and pour it over.

That wouldn't solve the potential kasharus issue of hot coffee vs. getting a cold-brew.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: gozalim on June 11, 2019, 01:18:50 PM
Is there an issur of Bal Tashchis here? Not sure it's worth violating the issur for the sake of $3-4.
i'm pretty sure this wouldn't be bal tashchis, as the savings itself is a purpose.
Would not doing it be bal tashchis of $3?
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 11, 2019, 01:20:01 PM
i'm pretty sure this wouldn't be bal tashchis
Why? You are getting coffee for the sole reason of throwing it out to get a new one. How is it not?
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on June 11, 2019, 02:46:21 PM
That wouldn't solve the potential kasharus issue of hot coffee vs. getting a cold-brew.

I was assuming the person was "traveling" :)

Seriously - how is Cafe Misto not a kashrus issue, but Regular coffee is?
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 11, 2019, 02:50:48 PM
I was assuming the person was "traveling" :)

Seriously - how is Cafe Misto not a kashrus issue, but Regular coffee is?
They both are the same. I personally drink both.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on June 11, 2019, 02:56:37 PM
As do I, and my hack was for those people who wanted to use 50 stars to get an ice coffee.

Or are you suggesting that the person who is spilling out the coffee doesn't want to drink a hot coffee b/c of Kashrus reasons?

Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 11, 2019, 03:21:14 PM
As do I, and my hack was for those people who wanted to use 50 stars to get an ice coffee.

Or are you suggesting that the person who is spilling out the coffee doesn't want to drink a hot coffee b/c of Kashrus reasons?

That was my guess.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Redbull3 on June 12, 2019, 12:08:57 PM
Tried hacking this a little myself.
I got a brewed coffee
Almond milk
Cinnamon Dolce syrup,
Two shots of espresso
For 50 stars.

I ordered via the app, and then when I came in I asked for a cup of ice. Poured the coffee over the ice and Voila!
Random Q - is this drink parve?
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on June 12, 2019, 01:56:09 PM
Random Q - is this drink parve?

I assume you are talking about this drink:
Tried hacking this a little myself.
I got a brewed coffee
Almond milk
Cinnamon Dolce syrup,
Two shots of espresso...

That's a good question, I would assume that the better question is, is that drink kosher? :)

I specifically added almond milk to the drink because normally it's supposed to be a 25 point extra that I was tacking on for free.

I can' give you a definitive answer, only my own personal one - I do occasionally have this drink when I am fleishig - but I check the Almond/Soy milk to verify that it has a hasgacha on it (milks are usually sourced locally for starbucks, and not all might be kosher). AFAIK, Cinnamon Dolce syrup is sourced nationally and has an OU
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Redbull3 on June 12, 2019, 02:35:45 PM
I assume you are talking about this drink:
That's a good question, I would assume that the better question is, is that drink kosher? :)

I specifically added almond milk to the drink because normally it's supposed to be a 25 point extra that I was tacking on for free.

I can' give you a definitive answer, only my own personal one - I do occasionally have this drink when I am fleishig - but I check the Almond/Soy milk to verify that it has a hasgacha on it (milks are usually sourced locally for starbucks, and not all might be kosher). AFAIK, Cinnamon Dolce syrup is sourced nationally and has an OU
Are you saying you earn stars on reward drinks? I don't think that's accurate.. or maybe I'm misunderstanding.
Yeah my understanding on parve was same thanks.
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: Yonah on June 12, 2019, 04:35:25 PM
Are you saying you earn stars on reward drinks? I don't think that's accurate.. or maybe I'm misunderstanding.
Yeah my understanding on parve was same thanks.

No, With the new system, they're supposed to charge you 25 stars for Almond Milk and/or Flavored Syrup. When I added both to my brewed coffee, it only charged me 50 for the coffee (instead of the 100 stars I was expecting).

I also try not to go to Starbucks when I am fleishig - lifnei iver lo teetayn milchigs :)
Title: Re: Starbucks Rewards changes/devaluation
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 12, 2019, 06:29:30 PM
No, With the new system, they're supposed to charge you 25 stars for Almond Milk and/or Flavored Syrup. When I added both to my brewed coffee, it only charged me 50 for the coffee (instead of the 100 stars I was expecting).

I also try not to go to Starbucks when I am fleishig - lifnei iver lo teetayn milchigs :)
Free drinks always come with whatever modifiers you want. Under the old 125 star system it was the same. The chiddush is that adding espresso to Brewed coffee doesn't bump it up. And that a misto counts as Brewed coffee for this purpose.