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Title: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 07, 2019, 05:43:54 PM
I'm looking to put together a family Europe trip.
Ideally I would like for it to be over Shabbos.
I'm looking for somewhere in the mid January area.

Any tips would be appreciated

I would need a tour guide that knows the area.
Where to stay for Shabbos
Any other beneficial pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 07, 2019, 08:42:48 PM
Each of those locations have a lot in them, you'd need a while to properly cover them all....
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 08, 2019, 01:51:15 AM
Now that I have more time, let me explain...
I recently did Poland in a week, we were very rushed to cover ground, and yet I feel like we still didn't cover it all.
You can add to a trip like mine Kerestrir/Budepest which is half the distance as Berlin from Krakow. Prague AFAIK will need more than just a day or 2.
Warsaw is a day or 2 of what to do.
Lublin is easy another day.
And Krakow is a 2 or more days with Auschwitz/Auschwitz-birkenau.
That right there is a week without shabbos, and than there is all the other places on the way such as;
Przeworsk (Pshivorsk, Not sure what's still there)
Dynov
Warka (Vorka)
Ger
Kozienicki (Koshnitz)
Kazimierz (Koshmier)
Shinov
Ropshitz
Riminov
Majdenak
And a whole lot more.
The list goes on and on, not sure how much kvarim you intend to visit, but even the basics, with the other attractions, such as Museums, Ancient Shuls etc. is plenty for a week in Poland alone, especially if you're not a small group. Also remember the weather there is bitter in the winter.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 08, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
Okay you gave me a lot to think about can you recommend a tour guide
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 08, 2019, 10:04:49 PM
There's two focuses of the trip. Germany, with a target of r Samson Rachel Hirsch, yartziet is right after channuka. Hoping to plan around that..

And Auschwitz.

The girl is there's plenty of things along the way and Poland, pruage ect that can fill up the week.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 08, 2019, 10:08:29 PM
Okay you gave me a lot to think about can you recommend a tour guide
I was my own guide, so I have no first or second hand knowledge of a tour guide there
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: ad120 on April 10, 2019, 03:20:34 AM
I was my own guide, so I have no first or second hand knowledge of a tour guide there
How did you secure tickets?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 10, 2019, 03:21:07 AM
How did you secure tickets?
To?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: ad120 on April 10, 2019, 04:26:27 AM
To?
Auchwitz.
No tickets available for my date, 29 April 2019. 
They also said a private tour is no longer available.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 10, 2019, 10:16:39 AM
Auchwitz.
No tickets available for my date, 29 April 2019. 
They also said a private tour is no longer available.
I honestly didn't I didn't realize they sell out.
I went to the desk asked for tickets, and they gave us tickets for they next opening about 15 minutes later.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: damaxer91 on April 10, 2019, 11:50:50 AM
Okay you gave me a lot to think about can you recommend a tour guide

Yehuda Geberer who is based in Israel but comes to Eastern Europe often to take groups and families etc around is tops in my opinion.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: ad120 on April 10, 2019, 02:05:26 PM
Yehuda Geberer who is based in Israel but comes to Eastern Europe often to take groups and families etc around is tops in my opinion.
What is his rate?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: ad120 on April 10, 2019, 02:06:51 PM
Dear Sir or Madam,

 

Auschwitz II-Birkenau is accessible for individuals without reservation all day long within its opening hours.

Admission to the grounds of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial is free of charge.

 

Best Regards,
Piotr Hałat



Is there a point in going if you cannot enter the museum?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 10, 2019, 02:16:35 PM


Dear Sir or Madam,

 

Auschwitz II-Birkenau is accessible for individuals without reservation all day long within its opening hours.

Admission to the grounds of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial is free of charge.

 

Best Regards,
Piotr Hałat



Is there a point in going if you cannot enter the museum?
Auschwitz-Birkenau doesn't need tickets, and is the more important one.
Auschwitz needs a (free) ticket and is pretty much a museum.
What museum are you referring to?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: ad120 on April 10, 2019, 02:42:11 PM
Auschwitz-Birkenau doesn't need tickets, and is the more important one.
Auschwitz needs a (free) ticket and is pretty much a museum.
What museum are you referring to?
To be honest, I am not sure.
Dear Sir or Madam,

 

Unfortunately entry passes without an educator which were available online for that day are already booked. The number of Entry Passes available online is limited and cannot be increased.

I’d like to inform you that a person who arrives without a booked reservation will be able to enter the Museum. The entry pass will be issued at the visitors’ centre. Entry will only be possible, however, in the first available hour. During busy periods, this may result in a long waiting time.

 

If you would like to visit the Memorial without a guide you can do it between 7.30 a.m. and 10.00 a.m. or after 4.00 p.m. an you can stay on the grounds of the Museum as long as you wish during the opening hours – that’s not apply in Birkenau. Auschwitz II-Birkenau is accessible for individuals without reservation all day long within its opening hours.

 

Best Regards,

Piotr Hałat

 

Obsługa Odwiedzających / Visitor Services

Państwowe Muzeum Auschwitz-Birkenau / Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum

tel. (+48) 33 844 8100 (8099),

w dniu wizyty/ at visit day: (+48) 33 844 8102

www.auschwitz.org

www.visit.auschwitz.org




What is he referring to?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: travel agent on April 11, 2019, 08:15:05 AM
he is referring to Auschwitz.

i was there 2 weeks ago with a group, we arrived there at 12:45, we got tickets only for 2:00, so we left to Birkenau & retuened at 2:00
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: ad120 on April 11, 2019, 10:41:05 PM
he is referring to Auschwitz.

i was there 2 weeks ago with a group, we arrived there at 12:45, we got tickets only for 2:00, so we left to Birkenau & retuened at 2:00
We will only be arriving at 2PM.
So I hope that we can get tickets and do Birkenau while waiting.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 11, 2019, 11:04:56 PM
he is referring to Auschwitz.

i was there 2 weeks ago with a group, we arrived there at 12:45, we got tickets only for 2:00, so we left to Birkenau & retuened at 2:00
We will only be arriving at 2PM.
So I hope that we can get tickets and do Birkenau while waiting.
Auschwitz-Birkenau should be taking a while longer than an hour and 15 minutes..., Auschwitz-Birkenau is the main thing, so don't let plans for Auschwitz effect a proper visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: travel agent on April 12, 2019, 08:47:18 AM
Auschwitz-Birkenau should be taking a while longer than an hour and 15 minutes..., Auschwitz-Birkenau is the main thing, so don't let plans for Auschwitz effect a proper visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau.

its possible to return again to Birkenau after finishing Auschwitz, thats the best solution.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 14, 2019, 12:46:27 PM
Bottom line, books tickets for Aushwitz, can you do it in advance or only the day of?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: DoreshEmes on April 14, 2019, 02:01:58 PM
For traveling between multiple countries in the same day with stops along the way, I recommend to use MyDayTrip.com.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: DoreshEmes on April 14, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
I'm looking to put together a family Europe trip.
Ideally I would like for it to be over Shabbos.
I'm looking for somewhere in the mid January area.

Any tips would be appreciated

I would need a tour guide that knows the area.
Where to stay for Shabbos
Any other beneficial pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Which country would you like to be in for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 14, 2019, 05:39:33 PM
Don't know yet That's why I turned here.
Which country do I want to be in? Prauge?
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: DoreshEmes on April 14, 2019, 05:46:31 PM
Don't know yet That's why I turned here.
Which country do I want to be in? Prauge?

In Prague you can eat at kosher restaurants on Shabbos.
In Berlin, Vienna, Budapest you can find home hospitality.
In Poland (and all of them) there's Chabad.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 14, 2019, 07:52:19 PM
That's just for the food, where is the best ambience.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: DoreshEmes on April 14, 2019, 07:57:36 PM
That's just for the food, where is the best ambience.

Depends what you like.  Personally I prefer home hospitality and getting a sense of how locals live in various Jewish communities when I travel, but Prague is probably most interesting to walk around if you don't mind eating in restaurants.  The food is great and the restaurants are very nice.  You'll be mostly with tourists, I'd imagine, but as far as ambiance you might like it better than the other places you mentioned.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: ad120 on April 15, 2019, 02:12:23 AM
Bottom line, books tickets for Aushwitz, can you do it in advance or only the day of?
You can book Auchwitz in advance. It depends on availability. The do hold some tickets that are released every day for that at the ticket office.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 15, 2019, 10:31:34 PM
Depends what you like.  Personally I prefer home hospitality and getting a sense of how locals live in various Jewish communities when I travel, but Prague is probably most interesting to walk around if you don't mind eating in restaurants.  The food is great and the restaurants are very nice.  You'll be mostly with tourists, I'd imagine, but as far as ambiance you might like it better than the other places you mentioned.
with a group of 25 people can't really pile into one person's house
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: E R K on April 16, 2019, 12:39:54 AM
Have you considered a private tour? My kids went with their seminary and they used Heritage Seminars. They now also offer adult groups. And it sounds like you have a lot of people that you could be your own group. The website is http://heritageseminars.org/
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yeki89 on April 16, 2019, 02:38:35 PM
I want a private tour. I need someone to say here is the comlete trip. Bus, tour guide, route, food Shabbos ect
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: Yehudaa on April 16, 2019, 02:50:00 PM
I want a private tour. I need someone to say here is the comlete trip. Bus, tour guide, route, food Shabbos ect
https://www.nesivos.com/contact-us/

Try him, he has a kitchen there and works with guides, hotels, etc and does tons of groups.
Title: Re: Europe Trip - Germany, Prauge, Poland, Auschwitz, and the surrounding area
Post by: G11600 on April 17, 2019, 06:41:00 AM
In Prague you can eat at kosher restaurants on Shabbos.
In Berlin, Vienna, Budapest you can find home hospitality.
In Poland (and all of them) there's Chabad.

You can also go to retaurant for shabbat meals in Vienna and Budapest. I think also Berlin, but not sure.
I had shabbat meals recently at Alef Alef in Vienna, food was excellent and right next door to the shul.
Very pleasant experience, highly recommend. I thought it was reasonably priced @ EUR 35 all-in including salads, fish, soup, main, desserts, wine, soft drinks etc