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Title: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Zalc on July 05, 2019, 10:29:09 AM
Hawaii economy flights available for 7.5k each way (or 12.5k in business) from anywhere in US via Turkish airlines.
Can book star alliance (United etc)

Just posted on FM: https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/7-5k-each-way-to-hawaii-with-turkish-miles-and-smiles/
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 05, 2019, 10:47:28 AM
Hawaii economy flights available for 7.5k each way (or 12.5k in business) from anywhere in US via Turkish airlines.
Can book star alliance (United etc)

Just posted on FM: https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/7-5k-each-way-to-hawaii-with-turkish-miles-and-smiles/

This is absolutely insane.
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Zalc on July 05, 2019, 10:57:20 AM
This is absolutely insane.
Seems like business may be really hard to find, and you need to email and wait to see what's truly available.

Seems like you can book free stopovers as well?

If you thought Singapore for 17.5k miles was cheap....
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: nirc on July 05, 2019, 11:58:18 AM
Hawaii economy flights available for 7.5k each way (or 12.5k in business) from anywhere in US via Turkish airlines.
Can book star alliance (United etc)

Just posted on FM: https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/7-5k-each-way-to-hawaii-with-turkish-miles-and-smiles/

Can’t believe that Turkish is an airline I don’t have access to. Between chase and capital one, I thought I covered all airlines.
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Zalc on July 05, 2019, 12:00:44 PM
Can’t believe that Turkish is an airline I don’t have access to. Between chase and capital one, I thought I covered all airlines.
you can transfer points to Turkish from Citi ThankYou Rewards (1 to 1) or from Marriott Bonvoy (60K to 25K). 

The 2 programs everyone loves to hate.
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: nirc on July 05, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
you can transfer points to Turkish from Citi ThankYou Rewards (1 to 1) or from Marriott Bonvoy (60K to 25K).

Have Marriott points but I noticed in the article:

“Note that transfers to Turkish Miles and Smiles are not instant. You will need to wait 1-2 days for miles to post.”

Not sure if I am willing to risk all on hopes that my award flights are still available once transfer is complete.
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: nirc on July 05, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Seems like business may be really hard to find, and you need to email and wait to see what's truly available.

Unless I am doing something wrong, it appears that there is 0 business availability from Chicago to OGG / LIH in a 3month window (dec-feb).
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 12HRS on July 07, 2019, 12:15:37 AM
This is absolutely insane.

Please remind us how your Turkish ticketing experience went again?
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 07, 2019, 12:22:11 AM
Please remind us how your Turkish ticketing experience went again?

You mean Lifemiles
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 12HRS on July 07, 2019, 12:23:11 AM
You mean Lifemiles

Thought it was TK that had you going back and forth to the office
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2019, 12:27:49 AM
You mean Lifemiles
That might make TK look good.
But post if you book this.
Title: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: thaber on July 12, 2019, 05:44:49 PM
Never saw this before - looks like a pain to book, but a good savings. https://awardwallet.com/blog/the-best-points-and-miles-to-use-for-free-flights-to-hawaii/ (https://awardwallet.com/blog/the-best-points-and-miles-to-use-for-free-flights-to-hawaii/)
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: thaber on July 12, 2019, 05:48:50 PM
this was discussed on Ddf
couldn't find it. sorry for the new thread
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: as2 on July 12, 2019, 07:55:10 PM
Unless I am doing something wrong, it appears that there is 0 business availability from Chicago to OGG / LIH in a 3month window (dec-feb).
Yup, not a single nonstop seat in J ORD-HNL for the whole calendar when I checked a few days ago.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on July 12, 2019, 08:03:10 PM
Availability opens some times  just like TLV routes.

Its possible and easy to book depending what email you have.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: ludmila on July 12, 2019, 08:58:29 PM
Availability opens some times  just like TLV routes.

Its possible and easy to book depending what email you have.
What email is best to use?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 13, 2019, 03:07:32 PM
Its possible and easy to book depending what email you have.

Why is email relevant?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: mmgfarb on July 13, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
Why is email relevant?
I assume he was reffering to which email for TK you have, not what email provider you have. 
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on July 13, 2019, 10:20:07 PM
I assume he was reffering to which email for TK you have, not what email provider you have.
+1 you can find ppl on FT that have booked with TK many times by having some ticketing office email address, there are  many locations that make you come in, so you really need the right one.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: yelped on July 13, 2019, 10:41:00 PM
I think @ExGingi had good experience with them. Maybe @hvaces42, too, iirc.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: hvaces42 on July 13, 2019, 10:44:14 PM
I think @ExGingi had good experience with them. Maybe @hvaces42, too, iirc.
NYC.Ticketing@thy.com
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: JudahMcB on August 08, 2019, 06:52:33 PM
Booked EWR-HNL-EWR on United for my brother and SIL for 60K Marriott -> 30K Turkish today. Took about 24 minutes on the phone.  TK provided an e-ticket number for both passengers and a PNR. When I check the PNR on the United site it shows only one passenger on the itinerary and the named passenger is my name, not my brother's name as is shown in the TK email confirmation. I checked with TK and they confirm the flights were ticketed and issued to the 2 correct passengers and that I need to follow up with United to confirm everything else. If I give United the PNR they do not see any of those details. When I give United the e-ticket number from TK they say they cannot see the details not make any changes (e.g., like assigning seats) because it is a partner ticket and that I need to contact TK to make sure the tickets were issued.

Is it possible it just takes a few days for the itinerary to be ticketed? Shouldn't United be able to see the correct number of passengers and names from my PNR? Any advice on how to proceed?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on August 08, 2019, 07:10:23 PM
There it goes.
Problems with TK start.
Is it really worth it? Isn't it cheaper (time value) just to book via a different way?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2019, 07:13:14 PM
Their call center is horrendous.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: grodnoking on August 08, 2019, 07:14:17 PM
Try the office in JFK.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: JudahMcB on August 08, 2019, 07:16:24 PM
Is it really worth it? Isn't it cheaper (time value) just to book via a different way?

Where's the fun in that? Isn't it cheaper (time value) to just use a simple 2% cash back CC and book all flights with cash? Timewise it probably is. But then there would be little use for this forum.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on August 08, 2019, 07:44:50 PM
Where's the fun in that? Isn't it cheaper (time value) to just use a simple 2% cash back CC and book all flights with cash? Timewise it probably is. But then there would be little use for this forum.
Fun -1 it's not fun to be on the phone forever and not fun to drive down....
But
In many instances your right.
That's y
Chase freedom  1.5
and many transferable points [MT/MR/UR/TY] is the right mixture.

Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on August 24, 2019, 10:45:31 PM
Booked EWR-HNL-EWR on United for my brother and SIL for 60K Marriott -> 30K Turkish today. Took about 24 minutes on the phone.  TK provided an e-ticket number for both passengers and a PNR. When I check the PNR on the United site it shows only one passenger on the itinerary and the named passenger is my name, not my brother's name as is shown in the TK email confirmation. I checked with TK and they confirm the flights were ticketed and issued to the 2 correct passengers and that I need to follow up with United to confirm everything else. If I give United the PNR they do not see any of those details. When I give United the e-ticket number from TK they say they cannot see the details not make any changes (e.g., like assigning seats) because it is a partner ticket and that I need to contact TK to make sure the tickets were issued.

Is it possible it just takes a few days for the itinerary to be ticketed? Shouldn't United be able to see the correct number of passengers and names from my PNR? Any advice on how to proceed?

resolved?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on August 24, 2019, 10:48:22 PM
When booking an award ticket this way, will having the United explorer card still give me a free checked bag?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: JudahMcB on August 24, 2019, 10:49:47 PM
resolved?

Not completely. Bro has a new United PNR and is confirmed on the flight. SIL doesn't in United's system but does in Turkish's. So there's a lot of finger pointing as to who is responsible. As per United, If they tried to check-in for this flight my SIL would not be allowed to check-in nor board. Still not sure how to resolve.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on August 24, 2019, 11:04:42 PM
Which should I use for 2 economy tickets - Marriot or Citi points?

marriot is 3:1 so would need 75k (that's incl the 5k transfer bonus)
citi is 1:1 so would need 30k TY points

per TPG, the assign a value of 0.8 cents for marriot ($600) and 1.7 cents for citi TY points ($510).
https://thepointsguy.com/guide/monthly-valuations/
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Dan on August 24, 2019, 11:06:42 PM
Personally I value Marriott at ~0.7 and Citi at ~1.4.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: mmgfarb on August 24, 2019, 11:09:58 PM
When booking an award ticket this way, will having the United explorer card still give me a free checked bag?
No
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on August 24, 2019, 11:13:37 PM
Personally I value Marriott at ~0.7 and Citi at ~1.4.

I did not mean to put much stock in TPG's valuations. Just curious which ppl thought I should use.

My logic ---- Marriot seems easier to earn (more cc) = less valuable. On the other hand, it has more conversion options = more valuable.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: mmgfarb on August 24, 2019, 11:16:15 PM
I did not mean to put much stock in TPG's valuations. Just curious which ppl thought I should use.

My logic ---- Marriot seems easier to earn (more cc) = less valuable. On the other hand, it has more conversion options = more valuable.
The possible earing rates on Marriort cards are less than on Citi cards, making Citi easier to earn in the long term.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on August 26, 2019, 03:29:21 PM
No

any suggestions on how to save the $200 in luggage fees assuming I'm taking 3 bags?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: farmbochur on August 26, 2019, 07:13:52 PM
When booking an award ticket this way, will having the United explorer card still give me a free checked bag?

No

Are you sure? I recently booked PIT-SFO using SQ miles and paid taxes using my explorer card and UA.com shows that I get free bags. I also confirmed the free bag benefit would apply with UA via Twitter.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on August 27, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
Not completely. Bro has a new United PNR and is confirmed on the flight. SIL doesn't in United's system but does in Turkish's. So there's a lot of finger pointing as to who is responsible. As per United, If they tried to check-in for this flight my SIL would not be allowed to check-in nor board. Still not sure how to resolve.

cant help. sorry. any Fuel Surcharges?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on September 10, 2019, 05:28:18 PM
Are you sure? I recently booked PIT-SFO using SQ miles and paid taxes using my explorer card and UA.com shows that I get free bags. I also confirmed the free bag benefit would apply with UA via Twitter.

Pls post after flying if luggage fees were in fact waived. BTW, are the Singapore miles under same account name as United card?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: farmbochur on September 12, 2019, 04:08:13 PM


Pls post after flying if luggage fees were in fact waived.
They were




BTW, are the Singapore miles under same account name as United card?

No. Singapore miles owner did not travel.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on September 20, 2019, 11:48:14 AM
anyone have success (or problems) signing up for a miles & smiles membership?

I am using the sign-up link from the main TurkishAirlines page and have had no success. Tried multiple browsers on different days. Either nothing at all happens or a "technical error" pops up.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: JudahMcB on September 20, 2019, 11:52:41 AM
Booked EWR-HNL-EWR on United for my brother and SIL for 60K Marriott -> 30K Turkish today. Took about 24 minutes on the phone.  TK provided an e-ticket number for both passengers and a PNR. When I check the PNR on the United site it shows only one passenger on the itinerary and the named passenger is my name, not my brother's name as is shown in the TK email confirmation. I checked with TK and they confirm the flights were ticketed and issued to the 2 correct passengers and that I need to follow up with United to confirm everything else. If I give United the PNR they do not see any of those details. When I give United the e-ticket number from TK they say they cannot see the details not make any changes (e.g., like assigning seats) because it is a partner ticket and that I need to contact TK to make sure the tickets were issued.

Is it possible it just takes a few days for the itinerary to be ticketed? Shouldn't United be able to see the correct number of passengers and names from my PNR? Any advice on how to proceed?

It took about a month convincing TK there was an issue with their system. They finally agreed to reach out to United and they resolved the issue within a few days.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on September 24, 2019, 12:16:04 PM
Soon to book my tickets as there is wide open economy non-stop availability. Just trying to decide on where to start my trip - Maui or Kauai.

PSA (thanks to JudahMcB) - email/phone inquiries to Boston office, rather than NY or CHI.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: yoshapman on November 05, 2019, 10:42:44 AM
Very simple questions, but when transferring Citi TYP to Turkish (trying to book 15,000 Hawaii flights and at the beginning of this crazy convoluted process), do you put the letters TK or just the 9 numbers after it. Don't want to do anything to mess the transfer up. Also, does anyone know if there are any restrictions when transferring or booking with Turkish on United (for instance, Korean wouldn't let me book more than 5 people including myself on Delta, and they all had to be family members and verified beforehand with birth certificates) regarding family members. Thanks!
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on November 05, 2019, 10:44:29 AM
Very simple questions, but when transferring Citi TYP to Turkish (trying to book 15,000 Hawaii flights and at the beginning of this crazy convoluted process), do you put the letters TK or just the 9 numbers after it. Don't want to do anything to mess the transfer up. Also, does anyone know if there are any restrictions when transferring or booking with Turkish on United (for instance, Korean wouldn't let me book more than 5 people including myself on Delta, and they all had to be family members and verified beforehand with birth certificates) regarding family members. Thanks!
Just FYI. Reports on FT are that TK cant do partner bookings at the moment.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2019, 10:45:34 AM
Very simple questions, but when transferring Citi TYP to Turkish (trying to book 15,000 Hawaii flights and at the beginning of this crazy convoluted process), do you put the letters TK or just the 9 numbers after it. Don't want to do anything to mess the transfer up. Also, does anyone know if there are any restrictions when transferring or booking with Turkish on United (for instance, Korean wouldn't let me book more than 5 people including myself on Delta, and they all had to be family members and verified beforehand with birth certificates) regarding family members. Thanks!
Why would you transfer before putting something on hold?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on November 05, 2019, 11:14:37 AM
Just FYI. Reports on FT are that TK cant do partner bookings at the moment.

Do they give reasons? Is this a temp glitch or a more permanent change?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on November 05, 2019, 11:54:34 AM
Do they give reasons? Is this a temp glitch or a more permanent change?

Updating systems.  8)
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: israshot on November 05, 2019, 12:28:13 PM
Has anyone tried their Turkish number ($0.01/minute w GV)? I called this number few times the past 2 months and was able to get it done (most of the times).
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: mmgfarb on November 05, 2019, 04:00:00 PM
Has anyone tried their Turkish number ($0.01/minute w GV)? I called this number few times the past 2 months and was able to get it done (most of the times).
What date was the latest time they were able to book?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: israshot on November 05, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
What date was the latest time they were able to book?
10/10
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: ah giten on November 05, 2019, 08:19:43 PM
just spoke to 2 agents and they say that they can't do partner bookings "at this time"...
 :( :(
who called the airline when it says in red not to :D
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: israshot on November 05, 2019, 08:21:43 PM
just spoke to 2 agents and they say that they can't do partner bookings "at this time"...
 :( :(
who called the airline when it says in red not to :D
I read some dp that the email from the Boston office is doing it in few hours.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: ah giten on November 05, 2019, 08:59:00 PM
I read some dp that the email from the Boston office is doing it in few hours.
maybe I"ll try later.
Thanks
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Something Fishy on November 16, 2019, 06:37:19 PM
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/turkish-changes-award-chart-act-now-for-some-sweet-spots-but-dont-panic-theres-good-news-too/
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: ah giten on November 17, 2019, 02:14:40 AM
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/turkish-changes-award-chart-act-now-for-some-sweet-spots-but-dont-panic-theres-good-news-too/
Thanks!
I beg dan to keep eyes off this, for a bit.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Baglach on November 17, 2019, 02:34:36 AM
Trying to refund a tk booking for partner flights, have huca'd many times anyone have a good contact from a ticketing office or any experience?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: brooklyndan on November 18, 2019, 01:39:10 AM
How come post says you can't book online?
My search on TK website shows 7500 mile availability EWR - OGG
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: yelped on November 18, 2019, 10:44:24 AM
How come post says you can't book online?
My search on TK website shows 7500 mile availability EWR - OGG
They just updated their search engine.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: sddd on November 18, 2019, 05:09:24 PM
when doing an award search on M & S I get a blank screen.... Are results only displayed if you have enough miles to book (I have zero)

Thanks
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: justmeha on November 18, 2019, 07:34:37 PM
not letting me make a account wont let me put in a password
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on November 18, 2019, 07:48:01 PM
when doing an award search on M & S I get a blank screen.... Are results only displayed if you have enough miles to book (I have zero)

Thanks

Showing by me and I have ZERO.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: lost_my_dolphin on November 18, 2019, 07:53:10 PM
Getting a blank screen also using Chrome. What browser are you using?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on November 18, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
Getting a blank screen also using Chrome. What browser are you using?
Chrome

R u checking correctly?

https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/booking-turkish-online-my-bumbling-experiments/
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: lost_my_dolphin on November 18, 2019, 08:03:10 PM
Was not. Thanks
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on November 18, 2019, 11:31:51 PM
How come post says you can't book online?
My search on TK website shows 7500 mile availability EWR - OGG

how?

I clicked on “Miles Transactions”, but don't have a “Star Alliance Award Ticket” area.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on November 19, 2019, 12:29:24 AM
how?

I clicked on “Miles Transactions”, but don't have a “Star Alliance Award Ticket” area.
It's on right side.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on November 19, 2019, 10:34:34 AM
It's on right side.

nothing there. tried using edge and safari.

perhaps I not see anything bec my profile is not complete (missing nationality etc)? cant add bec of system errors.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: brooklyndan on November 21, 2019, 12:03:04 AM
not letting me make a account wont let me put in a password
Read Dan's original post about the only type of password that will work
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2019, 12:15:35 AM
Such a garbage website.

Can't find anything EWR-HNL nonstop.
When I search for LAX-HNL it routes via SFO.
When I search for SFO-HNL it routes via LAX.

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Zalc on December 11, 2019, 12:28:01 PM
Has anyone found business class availability recently?
Does it show on the web search if yes?
If searching on united's site with expert mode, what are the fare classes that Turkish would have access to if they are booking?

Thanks
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: bmw on December 11, 2019, 02:25:39 PM
has anyone been able to book online for another passenger ?
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: KSMH on December 11, 2019, 04:34:54 PM
has anyone been able to book online for another passenger ?
Don't think it works.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: GAM Z. on December 11, 2019, 06:12:48 PM
Has anyone found business class availability recently?
Does it show on the web search if yes?
If searching on united's site with expert mode, what are the fare classes that Turkish would have access to if they are booking?

Thanks
I would assume it’s I
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: nirc on December 11, 2019, 06:22:19 PM
Has anyone found business class availability recently?
Does it show on the web search if yes?
Thanks

No.
In theory.
Title: Re: 15k RT to Hawaii on UA through Turkish
Post by: Something Fishy on December 11, 2019, 07:13:34 PM
Such a garbage website.

Can't find anything EWR-HNL nonstop.
When I search for LAX-HNL it routes via SFO.
When I search for SFO-HNL it routes via LAX.

 ::) ::) ::)

LMAO