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Title: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on August 19, 2019, 04:55:16 PM
Take your seat in history. Tickets to The Siyum now available! Reserve your seat now at thesiyum.org or by calling 1-877-SIYUM-13

 Curios what level seats you guys are buying?
$36, $54?
 Or a machar on the ground level?

Title: Re: Tickets for the "2020 Siyam Hashas" Now open to the public to book!
Post by: myi on August 19, 2019, 06:20:27 PM
https://app.tixter.io/e/nR/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=mainimage&utm_campaign=ticketsaleslaunch

(https://i.ibb.co/NyPrv4b/siyam.png) (https://ibb.co/pL8Q7m5)
 Can you tell me where the dayis will be if the 1800$ tickets are facing this way? and the ladies are all facing the same way, makes sense that the ladies would be the same way as the 1800$ tickets? and the rest for thye men are facing backwards?

And $600 tickets are all facing backwards?

(https://i.ibb.co/z6VbT0Z/siyam.png) (https://ibb.co/vX4m6Kk)
Title: Re: Tickets for the "2020 Siyam Hashas" Wheres the Dayis going to be positioned?
Post by: stooges44 on August 20, 2019, 06:12:54 AM
Take your seat in history. Tickets to The Siyum now available! Reserve your seat now at thesiyum.org or by calling 1-877-SIYUM-13

 Curios what level seats you guys are buying?
$36, $54?
 Or a machar on the ground level?

You mean a fine shmecker? But hey if you can legitimately afford it, got for it.
Title: Re: Tickets for the "2020 Siyam Hashas" Wheres the Dayis going to be positioned?
Post by: gingyguy on August 20, 2019, 07:28:18 AM
Title gets an Ouch!
Title: Re: Tickets for the "2020 Siyam Hashas" Wheres the Dayis going to be positioned?
Post by: myi on August 20, 2019, 09:59:08 PM
Title gets an Ouch!
Your right I agree horrible title!
   
The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
 
  Any better?
       Maybe we can get a mod to change it, or if you have a better idea go for it.
Title: Re: Tickets for the "2020 Siyam Hashas" Now open to the public to book!
Post by: shmebeble on August 20, 2019, 10:09:04 PM
https://app.tixter.io/e/nR/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=mainimage&utm_campaign=ticketsaleslaunch

(https://i.ibb.co/NyPrv4b/siyam.png) (https://ibb.co/pL8Q7m5)
 Can you tell me where the dayis will be if the 1800$ tickets are facing this way? and the ladies are all facing the same way, makes sense that the ladies would be the same way as the 1800$ tickets? and the rest for thye men are facing backwards?

And $600 tickets are all facing backwards?

(https://i.ibb.co/z6VbT0Z/siyam.png) (https://ibb.co/vX4m6Kk)
The women often enable the learning, so should definitely be facing forward.
Title: Re: Tickets for the "2020 Siyam Hashas" Wheres the Dayis going to be positioned?
Post by: myi on August 20, 2019, 10:11:47 PM
The women often enable the learning, so should definitely be facing forward.
Lol.
  Saying good.

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on August 21, 2019, 12:20:41 AM
The women often enable the learning, so should definitely be facing forward.

So might be like what you said where the ladies get the front of the Stage, while the men would be ok to watch the big projectors unless you pay $1800.

(https://app.tixter.io/assets/agudah/public/new/images/stadium-sm.png)

And thanks jj
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on August 21, 2019, 01:04:23 AM
I was going to grab the $54 seats but looks like that's out of the option, now I'll go for the $36.
 Curios if guys bought 100s of the $54 and flipping them for $70 or so on Ticketmaster or ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on August 21, 2019, 07:44:57 AM
Just make sure @jj1000 gets the best seat in the house. We’re all counting on him.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on August 21, 2019, 08:50:14 AM
Just make sure @jj1000 gets the best seat in the house. We’re all counting on him.
Which seat we pitching in for?
The $1800? Or field level? You got $5 from me! Keep the campaign going! 😋
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on August 21, 2019, 06:30:13 PM
Was there an 18 dollar option when it was 1st released?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: grodnoking on August 21, 2019, 06:31:17 PM
Was there an 18 dollar option when it was 1st released?
No
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on August 21, 2019, 08:18:38 PM
Can it be that the $1,800 are backwards, but they are directly behind the dais, while the closest forward facing seats are across the court, so they're cheaper? That would be my guess.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yehuda57 on August 22, 2019, 07:25:05 AM
Can it be that the $1,800 are backwards, but they are directly behind the dais, while the closest forward facing seats are across the court, so they're cheaper? That would be my guess.
You could argue either way. It's a chalukei dais.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: churnbabychurn on August 22, 2019, 08:39:36 AM
You could argue either way. It's a chalukei dais.
Very true
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: 12HRS on August 22, 2019, 04:03:06 PM
the poll missed the best option
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on August 23, 2019, 12:43:11 AM
the poll missed the best option
And what may that be?
  I can add it for the mod. 😜
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: jj1000 on August 23, 2019, 07:50:46 AM
Who wants to sponsor my ticket to fly in this year :)

I'm thinking we can do more of a Superbowl type live stream with 3 rabbis commenting throughout on what's happening and giving us a play by play.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on August 23, 2019, 07:57:17 AM
Who wants to sponsor my ticket to fly in this year :)

I'm thinking we can do more of a Superbowl type live stream with 3 rabbis commenting throughout on what's happening and giving us a play by play.
Don't forget the drones
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: jj1000 on August 23, 2019, 08:39:40 AM
Don't forget the drones
Probably restricted airspace.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: 12HRS on August 23, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
And what may that be?
  I can add it for the mod. 😜

Barclays center overflow
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mercaz1 on August 23, 2019, 03:30:55 PM
does the Agudah have a plan if there is inclement weather?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on August 23, 2019, 04:13:47 PM
I paid 25
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on August 25, 2019, 07:41:56 AM
Who wants to sponsor my ticket to fly in this year :)

I'm thinking we can do more of a Superbowl type live stream with 3 rabbis commenting throughout on what's happening and giving us a play by play.

A person with the last name of Eleff that's looking to spend cash on a flight doesn't sound right. Who are you and where's the real @jj1000  ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: moko on August 25, 2019, 11:35:08 AM
does the Agudah have a plan if there is inclement weather?
yes. Abridged program
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on August 25, 2019, 12:32:07 PM
does the Agudah have a plan if there is inclement weather?
Hand out umbrellas or ponchos!
 It's mid winter at worst it will snow!

 
Who wants to sponsor my ticket to fly in this year :)

I'm thinking we can do more of a Superbowl type live stream with 3 rabbis commenting throughout on what's happening and giving us a play by play.
I'm sure they have a BUS going from your home town to Metlife, or maybe not being that it's quite a drive.
 For example places like Toronto,Canada will be having busses to the siyam hashas.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on August 25, 2019, 12:54:29 PM
  I'm sure they have a BUS going from your home town to Metlife, or maybe not being that it's quite a drive.
 For example places like Toronto,Canada will be having busses to the siyam hashas.
Umm
Here at DansDeals we don’t do buses (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/35313)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on August 25, 2019, 12:59:12 PM
Umm
Was waiting for that response......
   With AA, BA, and United close in fee, Aeroplan with some avlbtly but lots of taxes , your left with the old busses..
   And then calculating delays and flight time you might just come out ahead with taking a bus..
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Z56 on August 25, 2019, 03:32:13 PM
Boxed seats not an option in the votes ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on August 25, 2019, 10:58:06 PM
A person with the last name of Eleff that's looking to spend cash on a flight doesn't sound right. Who are you and where's the real @jj1000  ?
"Three sources within the Dans Deals hierarchy have shared that JJ may have taken Dan captive in some unknown location. Another two sources, who don't want to be named, have said that JJ has been drinking a lot of Red Bull yesterday. A lawyer, who is scared of JJ and will therefore not allow us to disclose his name, noted that JJ didn't deny holding Dan hostage. Another source also confided that JJ may have been jealous of the business being called DansDeals and not JJDeals, or at least EleffDeals. 12 former forum participants said that Dan hadn't posted a deal in 18 minutes. JJ likes Red Bull, CNN has confirmed."
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on September 17, 2019, 12:16:18 AM
The website says that all tickets cheaper than $180 are sold out. Is this surprising, or maybe not reflective of the real number of available tickets?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shmooz on September 17, 2019, 06:59:50 AM
Shuls and groups bought chunks of tickets, you can look to join
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: db23 on September 17, 2019, 10:08:07 AM
anyone know what time its suppose to start?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on September 17, 2019, 10:11:02 AM
anyone know what time its suppose to start?
1pm
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: db23 on September 17, 2019, 10:39:57 AM
wow..didn't realize so early, i didn't see anywhere on the advertisements a time.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 17, 2019, 11:49:23 AM
The website says that all tickets cheaper than $180 are sold out. Is this surprising, or maybe not reflective of the real number of available tickets?
Are people really reselling it or flipping them?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on September 17, 2019, 11:55:13 AM
Are people really reselling it or flipping them?

I have a $25 dollar ticket, sitting with some ppl from my shul.  How much you offering?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 17, 2019, 11:57:14 AM
I have a $25 dollar ticket, sitting with some ppl from my shul.  How much you offering?
I have $36 so  doubt I'll want the 25 unless the sets is in fact better and facing the dayis?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: David61 on September 17, 2019, 12:42:31 PM
The website says that all tickets cheaper than $180 are sold out. Is this surprising, or maybe not reflective of the real number of available tickets?

Seeing the same. And not seeing resale tickets on ticketmaster. I guess there will be additional locations for overflow.
They also only have women's seats in the wheelchair accessible area, which means they are probably nearly sold out.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealben on September 17, 2019, 03:04:44 PM
Seeing the same. And not seeing resale tickets on ticketmaster. I guess there will be additional locations for overflow.
They also only have women's seats in the wheelchair accessible area, which means they are probably nearly sold out.
I spoke to them about this today, was told that tickets for an overflow location will probably be available after Y"T
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ushdadude on September 17, 2019, 03:07:17 PM
yes. Abridged program


that should be the likatchila


all we need is siyum and dancing
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 17, 2019, 03:18:39 PM
I spoke to them about this today, was told that tickets for an overflow location will probably be available after Y"T
I'm sure many shuls bought bulk amounts and will have many extras.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on September 17, 2019, 04:24:26 PM
wow..didn't realize so early, i didn't see anywhere on the advertisements a time.

It's on the tix vendor site: https://app.tixter.io/e/nR?

(https://i.gyazo.com/7ea5417c75a13b21458e7c6392f4f93e.png)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on September 17, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
I'm sure many shuls bought bulk amounts and will have many extras.
I thought the groups and shuls just got a group code to have their members buy in the same area as each other. Didnt think they had to buy bulk in advance
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dave321 on September 17, 2019, 10:36:29 PM
A suite is 100k
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on September 17, 2019, 10:52:18 PM
A suite is 100k
DO?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 17, 2019, 11:17:00 PM
DO?
We could split one, does that work?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: David61 on September 17, 2019, 11:41:30 PM
Anyone selling $25/36/54 seats for twice face value or less?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 17, 2019, 11:49:52 PM
Anyone selling $25/36/54 seats for twice face value or less?
Just wait till it's a bit close, and I'm sure the shuls and battai medrashim will be selling all their extra or ask around for people who bought extras.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on September 18, 2019, 12:13:20 AM
A suite is 100k
Heard they are going for 150k, guess the amount isn't set in stone but what they can get out of a donor.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on September 18, 2019, 10:20:55 AM

that should be the likatchila


all we need is siyum and dancing

TITCR

I'm planning to tailgate for most of it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ushdadude on September 18, 2019, 10:44:26 AM
DO?
Only 30 seats
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on September 18, 2019, 12:10:00 PM
I can't wait for a DDMS post that goes something like this:

HOT! Siyum Hashas Tickets Starting at Just $0.24 After Member Discount and Stacking Coupons!

Not sure exactly what the post would be, but it would include these key phrases:

-Check off that you are a daf yomi learner. There is no way for them to verify it and you can always identify as one.
-Handicap seating will get you closer, and they can't actually stop you from entering if you're not handicap.
-Mark off that you are a shiur attendee AND a maggid shuir. Each box gets you $6 off and the system will allow you to check both.
-Write a random number in the "Agudah donor number". The system won't red-flag you even if your donor number indicates that your name is Ralph Herzka but the actual name on the ticket says Henche.
-Don't forget to use an AMEX, so your ticket can be refunded via trip insurance in the case of inclement weather.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on September 18, 2019, 12:32:51 PM
-Don't forget to use an AMEX, so your ticket can be refunded via trip insurance in the case of inclement weather.
Good luck getting a refund from Amex. You are much better off using chase  ;)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Sr44489 on September 22, 2019, 07:05:21 PM
Does anyone have any extra tickets to sell?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on September 24, 2019, 10:40:31 AM
Does anyone have any extra tickets to sell?
I have 6 extra $36 tickets selling for $72 each obo
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Boruch Parnes on September 24, 2019, 10:43:00 AM
I have 6 extra $36 tickets selling for $72 each obo
wow insane  shouldve stocked up  :-[
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Sr44489 on September 24, 2019, 11:13:53 AM
I have 6 extra $36 tickets selling for $72 each obo
i wanna buy 4 tickets and willing to pay $50 each
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: The Thinker on September 24, 2019, 11:55:59 AM
Anyone have extra an 2 seats for Women?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: 12HRS on September 24, 2019, 12:12:13 PM
Post prices or I'm gonna end up a mod here as well  :P
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: The Thinker on September 24, 2019, 12:27:49 PM
Anyone have extra an 2 seats for Women?
Willing to pay $50 for the $36 tickets, or $70 for the $54 tickets
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 24, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Post prices or I'm gonna end up a mod here as well  :P
  :P.  Sorry stick to your boards.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on September 24, 2019, 07:25:04 PM
I have 6 extra $36 tickets selling for $72 each obo

I'm sorry but that's gross.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on September 24, 2019, 07:29:06 PM
I'm sorry but that's gross.
I’m not dying to sell. I don’t mind keeping them people here we’re asking for it so I offered it. If I want to sell it at face there are a lot of people I know willing to take them.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on September 24, 2019, 07:33:00 PM
Look what pops up when you start typing on Amazon...

No, there are no actual results that are for tickets.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Sr44489 on September 24, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
I’m not dying to sell. I don’t mind keeping them people here we’re asking for it so I offered it. If I want to sell it at face there are a lot of people I know willing to take them.
Where can i contact you?
I wanna buy
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: 12HRS on September 24, 2019, 09:16:48 PM
I'm sorry but that's gross.

Capitalism disappears when it comes to jews/siyum hashas? or some other reason?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: docbjg on September 24, 2019, 10:50:43 PM
Looking for transportation options to Metlife. My only priority is to be able to exit the parking lot after the siyum in the shortest time possible. Thought Uber, but a lot of discouraging stuff written online about that. Thought train, but I don't know if the special stadium service will be running for the siyum, and a lot written about packed platform. And driving--well everyone knows how long it takes lots to empty. Also, there's a restaurant and hotels nearby that you can pay to park at, and their shuttle will take you, but don't know if (1) they will have a shuttle to this non-game/non-concert event, and (b) if the shuttle will similarly get stuck in the exiting traffic.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 24, 2019, 11:13:26 PM
Where can i contact you?
I wanna buy
(https://i.ibb.co/gMyqvV9/sketch-1569381137042.png) (https://ibb.co/27qV8Nh)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shmooz on September 25, 2019, 09:44:43 AM
you guys trying to buy the tickets know that no one has tickets yet? you are entering in an agreement to have them shipped to you when they are delivered in a couple months.

there should be shuls that bought chunks and have still to sell, shouldn't need to pay a premium on them. Ask around.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on September 25, 2019, 10:16:35 AM
you guys trying to buy the tickets know that no one has tickets yet? you are entering in an agreement to have them shipped to you when they are delivered in a couple months.

there should be shuls that bought chunks and have still to sell, shouldn't need to pay a premium on them. Ask around.
People keep saying that, but why would shuls have bought chunks? They introduced a system this time where each group gets a code. That was everyone can still buy on their own, but still be seated with their group (based on the code). That removes the need to buy for the whole shul group at the same time.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shmooz on September 25, 2019, 10:44:03 AM
Because they knew people wouldn't do it so fast, or for some other reason, but they did. They may not be willing to sell to outsiders or they might.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 25, 2019, 03:11:33 PM
People keep saying that, but why would shuls have bought chunks? They introduced a system this time where each group gets a code. That was everyone can still buy on their own, but still be seated with their group (based on the code). That removes the need to buy for the whole shul group at the same time.
For all those who don't have internet or to lazy to order right away, you always have those, and any big shul which wants all the mispallim together bought 100 or 200-400 tickets and will flip what ever they don't use.
  Just wait it out until the tickets are shipped out.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on September 25, 2019, 09:23:03 PM
Capitalism disappears when it comes to jews/siyum hashas? or some other reason?

Yes.

If you bought an extra ticket, sell it for cost.  You shouldnt be making a market in this.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on September 25, 2019, 09:37:26 PM
Yes.

If you bought an extra ticket, sell it for cost.  You shouldnt be making a market in this.
thank you for telling me what to do.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ib3 on September 25, 2019, 09:39:11 PM


there should be shuls that bought chunks and have still to sell, shouldn't need to pay a premium on them. Ask around.

Then how come we didn't hear yet from any shul stating that? It's not like they are trying to keep it a secret from their members.

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Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ib3 on September 25, 2019, 09:43:07 PM


Looking for transportation options to Metlife. My only priority is to be able to exit the parking lot after the siyum in the shortest time possible. Thought Uber, but a lot of discouraging stuff written online about that. Thought train, but I don't know if the special stadium service will be running for the siyum, and a lot written about packed platform.

Last time there was special service.  The siyum ran late a and they kept announcing that the last train will leave at 11:00

They make you purchase a round trip ticket on the way going so that there shouldn't be a mad rush to purchase tickets when everyone wants to leave the same time.


Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: grodnoking on September 25, 2019, 09:54:28 PM

Last time there was special service.  The siyum ran late a and they kept announcing that the last train will leave at 11:00

They make you purchase a round trip ticket on the way going so that there shouldn't be a mad rush to purchase tickets when everyone wants to leave the same time.
I'm gonna assume that special service train will be running all day by the time the siyum hashas comes around. Usually they run special service for games and events, but the mall will be open then which I assume means they will run a train to that platform all day, everyday.

Eta: according to this NJ Ttansit is a typical governmental mess and may not have service up and running in time.

https://www.nj.com/traffic/2019/07/american-dream-had-to-reveal-its-transit-plan-problem-is-it-doesnt-have-one-yet.html
But will have buses to secaucus.
And maybe this too "A special express bus from Port Authority: NJ Transit announced they will run a special direct express bus from Port Authority to American Dream. The #355 expresses from Port Authority to the mall, and vice versa, with no other stops. It begins October 25. This is to take New York City shoppers back and forth to American Dream. It will depart every 30 minutes. NJ Transit wants to charge customers a new premium fare for this "frequent, express bus service." NJ Transit is not yet revealing what they want this premium fare to be."

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on September 25, 2019, 10:15:55 PM
Yes.

If you bought an extra ticket, sell it for cost.  You shouldnt be making a market in this.
I assume that if no one wanted to buy it at my cost it’s ok for me to sell it below cost.... right? So I’m allowed to lose $ on it but not make according to you
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: grodnoking on September 25, 2019, 10:38:55 PM
I assume that if no one wanted to buy it at my cost it’s ok for me to sell it below cost.... right? So I’m allowed to lose $ on it but not make according to you
Yes.
Last time i received a free ticket from a casual acquaintance because he had an extra. I believe most people in my community would definitely not offer their extra tickets at more than cost, even if there is a demand for it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 25, 2019, 10:51:50 PM

Then how come we didn't hear yet from any shul stating that? It's not like they are trying to keep it a secret from their members.

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cuz no one has a ticket in hand yet.
  Selling something they don't own yet.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on September 25, 2019, 10:52:22 PM
If things are being sold above face, shouldn't it be in the goods for sale board?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 25, 2019, 10:58:49 PM
I assume that if no one wanted to buy it at my cost it’s ok for me to sell it below cost.... right? So I’m allowed to lose $ on it but not make according to you
You can do what ever you like, just because there are those that woke up now too bad on them, you snooze you loose.
 
  Yes theoretically speaking don't know if they want people buying and flipping at a profit. Vs by Agudah it's all going towards AIOA (Agudah Israel of America).
       They very well knew that many people will be buying to resell and hard to prevent such acts, many bought for family and siblings and ....
      Definitely some money to made here should one have bought hundreds of tickets for resale.
   Good luck on all you 300 ticket sales!
   

If things are being sold above face, shouldn't it be in the goods for sale board?
Yes someone already created such a thread, but in the context of the thread people went and offered their tickets for sale.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on September 25, 2019, 11:09:19 PM
Yes.

If you bought an extra ticket, sell it for cost. 
Why not? Do you find it gross that the Aguda makes this into a market?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on September 25, 2019, 11:11:43 PM
Why not? Do you find it gross that the Aguda makes this into a market?
Considering they are paying 10s of thousands to rent and staff metlife, I don't think they are raking it in.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on September 25, 2019, 11:14:48 PM
Considering they are paying 10s of thousands to rent and staff metlife, I don't think they are raking it in.
They're definitely making money. Regardless, there's nothing wrong with buying and reselling for profit.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on September 26, 2019, 09:35:36 AM
Anyone know that their shul bought for their members?
The idea of the group code was to avoid a shul having to layout the money.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on September 26, 2019, 09:52:25 AM
They seem to be making more tickets available. Two weeks ago, all the $100 tickets were sold out. Now there are $100 tickets available. https://app.tixter.io/e/nR?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on September 26, 2019, 10:04:32 AM
Considering they are paying 10s of thousands to rent and staff metlife, I don't think they are raking it in.

LOL!! Tens of thousands? Not raking it in? I wouldn't even know where to start.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on September 26, 2019, 10:18:06 AM
LOL!! Tens of thousands? Not raking it in? I wouldn't even know where to start.
How much do you think it costs to rent out metlife?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on September 26, 2019, 10:26:14 AM
How much do you think it costs to rent out metlife?
*"cost of renting out Metlife" trending on Google*
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Boruch Parnes on September 26, 2019, 11:39:55 AM
How much do you think it costs to rent out metlife?
Call them ask them for a quote  ;)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on September 26, 2019, 11:48:08 AM
And there's nosayin that they'll even be able to fill up the expensive seats at face value.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avromie7 on September 26, 2019, 11:59:07 AM
They seem to be making more tickets available. Two weeks ago, all the $100 tickets were sold out. Now there are $100 tickets available. https://app.tixter.io/e/nR?
There are only 6 available.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on September 26, 2019, 01:00:14 PM
There are only 6 available.
You think that or there capping it at 6 per person, as they don't want people buying and flipping?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avromie7 on September 26, 2019, 01:16:04 PM
You think that or there capping it at 6 per person, as they don't want people buying and flipping?
You're probably correct. It says "A group code is required to purchase a $100 ticket"
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on September 26, 2019, 02:57:17 PM
How much do you think it costs to rent out metlife?

Blindly? I would guess somewhere between 3 and 4 mill fully staffed. But i have nothing to base that on other than the fact it cost a billion to build. In terms of revenue we are talking about a number many times that.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on September 26, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
Blindly? I would guess somewhere between 3 and 4 mill fully staffed. But i have nothing to base that on other than the fact it cost a billion to build. In terms of revenue we are talking about a number many times that.
If they sell the expensive seats at face value.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on September 26, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
Blindly? I would guess somewhere between 3 and 4 mill fully staffed. But i have nothing to base that on other than the fact it cost a billion to build. In terms of revenue we are talking about a number many times that.
This number is way too high, I doubt its anywhere close to that
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on September 26, 2019, 03:45:17 PM
If they sell the expensive seats at face value.

that will determine HOW many times, but they are going to make many times the cost of the venue regardless. Something to consider: it's going to be in middle of winter so there should be a stronger willingness to pay for a seat that provides indoor access.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on September 26, 2019, 03:46:56 PM
This number is way too high, I doubt its anywhere close to that

There is no competition that can offer anything remotely close to the size of Metlife. Why in the world would they charge anything less??
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on September 26, 2019, 03:49:14 PM
I know the agudah makes money, but their profit is from selling the field level and luxury seating, not from the $18, $36, and $54 seating.

It's also possible that the tisch family donates a lot to Agudah in the form of a subsidy (Co owners of the giants and have someone on the Artscroll board).
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on September 26, 2019, 03:52:19 PM
There is no competition that can offer anything remotely close to the size of Metlife. Why in the world would they charge anything less??
Because no one would pay that. Doing some quick online research and to rent out an arena which usually holds 20,000 people the going rate is $20K a night so I dont see anyway metlife is getting 3-4 million
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on September 26, 2019, 04:01:40 PM
Because no one would pay that. Doing some quick online research and to rent out an arena which usually holds 20,000 people the going rate is $20K a night so I dont see anyway metlife is getting 3-4 million

Think about the revenue that any event (Concerts, Sporting events etc.) that could generate for renting out Metlife VS renting out say MSG. MSG has to compete with Barclays etc so it will be relatively more competitive.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on September 26, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
Think about the revenue that any event (Concerts, Sporting events etc.) that could generate for renting out Metlife VS renting out say MSG. MSG has to compete with Barclays etc so it will be relatively more competitive.
So why don't they charge 50 mil? ::)
Because no one would pay that.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: David61 on September 26, 2019, 11:29:27 PM
Blindly? I would guess somewhere between 3 and 4 mill fully staffed. But i have nothing to base that on other than the fact it cost a billion to build. In terms of revenue we are talking about a number many times that.

Logically, and based on some quick research I'd guess cost for Metlife is $5-$10/seat * 80,000 seats = i.e. between $400,000-$800,000. There is probably not a lot of competition for an open stadium on a winter day.

In terms of revenue, If you assume average seat price  at the siyum is $75 * 80,000 = $6 million in revenue, so they should walk away with a nice profit, even after heavy marketing.

It's hard to find a better cause. They do what no one can do in Washington DC, Albany etc, and if you wanted to try to evaluate that in dollar terms, I'd guess they save the broader community and especially schools at least many tens of millions of dollars a year.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Eliyohu on September 27, 2019, 12:15:56 AM
I thought I remember hearing last time around that the rain insurance alone was a few hundred k.. which would only make sense if the rental was in the range of $4m..  just making a quick cheshbon I'd imagine there's well over 1000 MetLife employees at the event.. prob 7-8 hours of work prior, during & post... Even at minimum wage that's already 70-80k.. they're likely union workers which prob triples whatever wage they should really be paid.. & thats before anything else..
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: grodnoking on September 27, 2019, 12:58:18 AM
So basically no one actually has any clue.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on September 27, 2019, 03:17:17 AM
So basically no one actually has any clue.
Duh, this is DDF, when was the last time we had a discussion about something someone actually knew something about?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on September 27, 2019, 10:34:15 AM
Logically, and based on some quick research I'd guess cost for Metlife is $5-$10/seat * 80,000 seats = i.e. between $400,000-$800,000. There is probably not a lot of competition for an open stadium on a winter day.

In terms of revenue, If you assume average seat price  at the siyum is $75 * 80,000 = $6 million in revenue, so they should walk away with a nice profit, even after heavy marketing.

It's hard to find a better cause. They do what no one can do in Washington DC, Albany etc, and if you wanted to try to evaluate that in dollar terms, I'd guess they save the broader community and especially schools at least many tens of millions of dollars a year.

They are charging 100k a suite and have to imagine the median price per ticket will be far higher
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Sr44489 on October 23, 2019, 08:11:15 PM
Does anyone has any extra tickets to sell?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: puddles on October 24, 2019, 08:49:20 AM
Logically, and based on some quick research I'd guess cost for Metlife is $5-$10/seat * 80,000 seats = i.e. between $400,000-$800,000. There is probably not a lot of competition for an open stadium on a winter day.

In terms of revenue, If you assume average seat price  at the siyum is $75 * 80,000 = $6 million in revenue, so they should walk away with a nice profit, even after heavy marketing.

It's hard to find a better cause. They do what no one can do in Washington DC, Albany etc, and if you wanted to try to evaluate that in dollar terms, I'd guess they save the broader community and especially schools at least many tens of millions of dollars a year.

Yes, the Agudah does so much for schools that I still pay $16,000 for tuition in the Five towns. And when Yeshivas in Flatbush get money for PreK they still charge full tuition to parents. I would love to see a list of actual accomplishments of the Aguda.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on October 24, 2019, 09:42:55 AM
Yes, the Agudah does so much for schools that I still pay $16,000 for tuition in the Five towns. And when Yeshivas in Flatbush get money for PreK they still charge full tuition to parents. I would love to see a list of actual accomplishments of the Aguda.
Is 16000 supposed to be high or low and on what basis are you saying this?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: puddles on October 24, 2019, 09:43:46 AM
Is 16000 supposed to be high or low and on what basis are you saying this?
To me its high since I always hear how they help with my tuition. And on what basis am I saying what?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on October 24, 2019, 09:48:20 AM
To me its high since I always hear how they help with my tuition. And on what basis am I saying what?
That the number is high? That is feels high to you does not qualify as an answer. If the cost of the school per child is 20k and you are only paying 16k because of government funding then you are getting a great value possibly because of the Agudah.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: puddles on October 24, 2019, 09:49:03 AM
That the number is high? If the cost of the school per child is 20k and you are only paying 16k because of government funding then you are getting a great value possibly because of the Agudah.
Who said its supposed to be $20,000
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on October 24, 2019, 09:50:39 AM
Who said its supposed to be $20,000
I made no claims as to whether it was high or low. You seem to feel it is high. How do you know it is less than that?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on October 24, 2019, 11:28:00 AM
https://matzav.com/hasiyum-publication-the-business-of-supporting-torah-through-the-siyum/
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on October 24, 2019, 12:06:35 PM
Does anyone has any extra tickets to sell?
I heard that they will be releasing more cheaper seats in the near future.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on December 04, 2019, 01:33:12 PM
Anyone get tickets in the mail ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yungermanchik on December 04, 2019, 02:34:22 PM
While we're in the mode of spending money to express Kavod HaTorah let's not foget about the Marbitzai Torah and Milamdai Tinokos and donate to the organaztion that makes life easier for them: https://chasdeilev.org/donate/ (https://chasdeilev.org/donate/)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 05, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
Anyone get tickets in the mail ?
Not yet, ordered 5 pretty much when they became avlb for sale!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on December 05, 2019, 01:07:17 PM
Will there be a DO?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 05, 2019, 01:08:35 PM
Does anyone know if NJ Transit is running event service bus or trains?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on December 05, 2019, 01:14:09 PM
Does anyone know if NJ Transit is running event service bus or trains?
They did last time if that means anything
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 05, 2019, 01:15:02 PM
They did last time if that means anything
Thanks. I'd think they would, but it will be expensive to do so on a holiday so wasn't sure how they'd come done.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Traveler718 on December 05, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
I have 4 $100 men's tickets that I don't need. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Boruch Parnes on December 05, 2019, 04:14:09 PM
Werent the barclay tickets suppose to launch today??
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shapsam on December 05, 2019, 06:18:47 PM
Werent the barclay tickets suppose to launch today??
They are available in select judaica stores.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Boruch Parnes on December 05, 2019, 06:24:40 PM
They are available in select judaica stores.
names?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 05, 2019, 06:25:25 PM
Werent the barclay tickets suppose to launch today??
Will there be anything live in Barclay's or is it all just a stream from metlife?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on December 05, 2019, 06:34:14 PM
They are available in select judaica stores.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on December 05, 2019, 06:37:53 PM
Got tix today via fedex. I guess that’s why shipping was so much.

But why? Why did they need to ship them fedex?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yuneeq on December 05, 2019, 09:37:40 PM
I see one of the Agudah organizers pretty often - so what gripes would you guys want me to pass along?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on December 05, 2019, 11:32:12 PM
I see one of the Agudah organizers pretty often - so what gripes would you guys want me to pass along?
Nothing. We'd rather grumble about the agudah than actually fix perceived problems.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on December 05, 2019, 11:33:12 PM
So basically no one actually has any clue.
As they say, turn around for better clarity....
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on December 05, 2019, 11:33:57 PM
I see one of the Agudah organizers pretty often - so what gripes would you guys want me to pass along?
how much did they pay for MetLife?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on December 07, 2019, 06:31:58 PM
I see one of the Agudah organizers pretty often - so what gripes would you guys want me to pass along?

That the siyum has nothing to do with the daf. They’ve watered it down to just being the agudas every seven year event. This time they didn’t even bother making it when the daf finishes.

That’s with the ads that everyone can learn 2 pages of gemara and be part of the siyum. The heck you’re part of it. Learn a daf every day for most of a decade, then you’ll be part of it.

Get the gedolim off the stage. The daf is the baalabatims learning.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on December 12, 2019, 03:33:33 PM
Will there be anything live in Barclay's or is it all just a stream from metlife?
yes there will be a local program and live band on location and a live stream of metlife
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 12, 2019, 03:41:23 PM
yes there will be a local program and live band on location and a live stream of metlife
Sounds a lot more appealing than gekng in the cold. Alas, I have my ticket for metlife and live in Bergen county.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on December 17, 2019, 12:46:43 PM
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on December 17, 2019, 01:18:49 PM

https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2019/12/oorah-giving-away-free-100-siyum-hashas-tickets-first-come-first-serve.html
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on December 17, 2019, 01:32:50 PM
PSA - For those attending live in the Meadowlands, please be aware that they are restricting what can be brought in (clear plastic bags, no umbrellas, etc).

https://www.metlifestadium.com/alert-detail-page/lists/info-news-alerts/13th-global-siyum
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yammer on December 17, 2019, 01:58:15 PM
Nothing. We'd rather grumble about the agudah than actually fix perceived problems.
Belongs in the best one liners...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on December 17, 2019, 08:47:38 PM
I see one of the Agudah organizers pretty often - so what gripes would you guys want me to pass along?

Nu, what did she say?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chaaarvy on December 17, 2019, 09:39:41 PM
Does anyone know if NJ Transit is running event service bus or trains?

https://www.metlifestadium.com/event/2020/01/01/metlife-stadium/13th-global-siyum-hashas-of-daf-yomi

NJ TRANSIT TRAIN:  Will be operational from Secaucus Junction starting at 10:30am.
More info at: http://bit.ly/njtransitmeadowlands
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Blazer on December 18, 2019, 04:58:49 PM
Anyone have $25 tickets, looking to buy 2
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on December 18, 2019, 10:38:04 PM
Any news on speakers? Heard R’ Ausbond but not confirmed
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 23, 2019, 07:56:24 PM
Anyone have $25 tickets, looking to buy 2
There's a thread made for tickets being sold on the forum, you might have better luck there.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 23, 2019, 07:57:24 PM
Any news on speakers? Heard R’ Ausbond but not confirmed
Trump, Boris Johnson, and Mahmoud Abas
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 23, 2019, 07:58:45 PM
Trump, Boris Johnson, and Mahmoud Abas
Li'Havdil ...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: jose34 on December 23, 2019, 08:19:16 PM

Did'nt Trump want to come also?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on December 23, 2019, 08:31:25 PM
Did'nt Trump want to come also?
Wanted is one thing, coming is another.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 23, 2019, 09:49:23 PM
Did'nt Trump want to come also?
can I know what's the purpose of him coming?
 It's not a football game it's a siyam Hashas!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on December 24, 2019, 06:25:47 AM
Maybe he's seen Jared with "those red books." :)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mercaz1 on December 24, 2019, 11:47:15 AM
Maybe he's seen Jared with "those red books." :)

why would Jared be using Soncino and not artscroll
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on December 24, 2019, 12:37:47 PM
why would Jared be using Soncino and not artscroll

Its a story that  R Frand told a few years ago, IIRC just after R Zlotowitz passed away. A guy was on an airplane learning with an Artscroll gemara and the stewardess said to him, "oh you have one of those red books too?"

The artscroll gemaras (which in my mind look more red than brown) have become so widespread that the flight attendants on the airlines recognize them...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mercaz1 on December 24, 2019, 01:22:17 PM
is this like the dress

is Artscroll red or brown?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chaaarvy on December 25, 2019, 11:42:05 PM
So, at the Moed (?) siyum in Lakewood, Rabbi Frand told a story where Jay Schottenstein went into a fancy hotel. The bell hop saw his name and asked, "Are you connected to those maroon books?".
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on December 26, 2019, 12:32:15 AM
If there is an official color for UPS Brown (https://encycolorpedia.com/644117) there can also be an official color for Artscroll Maroon...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on December 26, 2019, 02:32:23 AM
Will there be a DO?
?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on December 26, 2019, 11:58:16 AM
?

You mean there are frum people who are members? I would assume the whole stadium is the DO.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 26, 2019, 12:08:34 PM
Anyone know what kind of food will be sold? Deciding if I need to pack lunch or if I can buy.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on December 26, 2019, 12:30:04 PM
Anyone know what kind of food will be sold? Deciding if I need to pack lunch or if I can buy.

You can find the official Siyum Guide with all info on TLS
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on December 26, 2019, 12:39:22 PM
https://thesiyum.org/guide

But it does not discuss food.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on December 26, 2019, 03:46:51 PM
Anyone know what kind of food will be sold? Deciding if I need to pack lunch or if I can buy.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HM9W36N
If you do pack lunch.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Sr44489 on December 26, 2019, 08:56:05 PM
Does anyone have any extra tickets to sell??
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: joeb1 on December 26, 2019, 09:48:22 PM
there are many chats with ppl dumping their tickets
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on December 27, 2019, 12:50:42 AM
Does anyone have any extra tickets to sell??
The Lakewood Scoop opened whatsapp groups with lots of tickets being sold.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: theduke on December 27, 2019, 02:03:54 PM
Can someone explain to me why the schools are closed in lakewood for the siyum?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on December 27, 2019, 02:08:55 PM
Can someone explain to me why the schools are closed in lakewood for the siyum?
so kids can go I'm guessing....
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: theduke on December 27, 2019, 02:16:48 PM
so kids can go I'm guessing....
Parents can take their kids out if needed. Not everyone is going for whatever reason, and besides school should never be canceled.
אמר רב יהודה אמר רב מאי דכתיב אל תגעו במשיחי ובנביאי אל תרעו אל תגעו במשיחי אלו תינוקות של בית רבן ובנביאי אל תרעו אלו תלמידי חכמים אמר ריש לקיש משום רבי יהודה נשיאה אין העולם מתקיים אלא בשביל הבל תינוקות של בית רבן אמר ליה רב פפא לאביי דידי ודידך מאי אמר ליה אינו דומה הבל שיש בו חטא להבל שאין בו חטא ואמר ריש לקיש משום רבי יהודה נשיאה אין מבטלין תינוקות של בית רבן אפילו לבנין בית המקדש ואמר ריש לקיש לרבי יהודה נשיאה כך מקובלני מאבותי ואמרי לה מאבותיך כל עיר שאין בה תינוקות של בית רבן מחריבין אותה רבינא אמר מחרימין אותה

Rav Yehuda said that Rav said: What is the meaning of that which is written: “Do not touch My anointed ones and do My prophets no harm” (I Chronicles 16:22)? “Do not touch My anointed ones,” these are the schoolchildren, who are as precious and important as kings and priests (Maharsha); “and do not harm My prophets,” these are Torah scholars. Reish Lakish said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda Nesia: The world only exists because of the breath, i.e., reciting Torah, of schoolchildren. Rav Pappa said to Abaye: My Torah study and yours, what is its status? Why is the Torah study of adults worth less? He said to him: The breath of adults, which is tainted by sin, is not similar to the breath of children, which is not tainted by sin. And Reish Lakish said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda Nesia: One may not interrupt schoolchildren from studying Torah, even in order to build the Temple. And Reish Lakish said to Rabbi Yehuda Nesia: I have received from my ancestors, and some say that he said to him: I have received from your ancestors as follows: Any city in which there are no schoolchildren studying Torah, they destroy it. Ravina said: They leave it desolate.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on December 27, 2019, 02:18:26 PM
Parents can take their kids out if needed. Not everyone is going for whatever reason, and besides school should never be canceled.
אמר רב יהודה אמר רב מאי דכתיב אל תגעו במשיחי ובנביאי אל תרעו אל תגעו במשיחי אלו תינוקות של בית רבן ובנביאי אל תרעו אלו תלמידי חכמים אמר ריש לקיש משום רבי יהודה נשיאה אין העולם מתקיים אלא בשביל הבל תינוקות של בית רבן אמר ליה רב פפא לאביי דידי ודידך מאי אמר ליה אינו דומה הבל שיש בו חטא להבל שאין בו חטא ואמר ריש לקיש משום רבי יהודה נשיאה אין מבטלין תינוקות של בית רבן אפילו לבנין בית המקדש ואמר ריש לקיש לרבי יהודה נשיאה כך מקובלני מאבותי ואמרי לה מאבותיך כל עיר שאין בה תינוקות של בית רבן מחריבין אותה רבינא אמר מחרימין אותה

Rav Yehuda said that Rav said: What is the meaning of that which is written: “Do not touch My anointed ones and do My prophets no harm” (I Chronicles 16:22)? “Do not touch My anointed ones,” these are the schoolchildren, who are as precious and important as kings and priests (Maharsha); “and do not harm My prophets,” these are Torah scholars. Reish Lakish said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda Nesia: The world only exists because of the breath, i.e., reciting Torah, of schoolchildren. Rav Pappa said to Abaye: My Torah study and yours, what is its status? Why is the Torah study of adults worth less? He said to him: The breath of adults, which is tainted by sin, is not similar to the breath of children, which is not tainted by sin. And Reish Lakish said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda Nesia: One may not interrupt schoolchildren from studying Torah, even in order to build the Temple. And Reish Lakish said to Rabbi Yehuda Nesia: I have received from my ancestors, and some say that he said to him: I have received from your ancestors as follows: Any city in which there are no schoolchildren studying Torah, they destroy it. Ravina said: They leave it desolate.
This is a once every 7.5 years event. Im sure the teachers want to go too.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: theduke on December 27, 2019, 02:23:00 PM
Pretty sure the beis hamikdash wasn't built annually either. Teachers and rebbeim have a job, if they want to take a day off they are welcome to but that is not an excuse to close a yeshiva!
Rant over
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on December 27, 2019, 02:25:48 PM
Pretty sure the beis hamikdash wasn't built annually either. Teachers and rebbeim have a job, if they want to take a day off they are welcome to but that is not an excuse to close a yeshiva!
Rant over
Ok, you're right. You are hereby appointed the position of scheduler for all east coast schools. Oh, 65% of your staff called off for news years by the way. Have fun!

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 27, 2019, 02:30:02 PM
According to this, why would you close yeshivas on Chol Hamoed, or for summers, or anything else?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 28, 2019, 07:26:20 PM
$40 for a vehicle to park at the met life? they out of their minds?!?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on December 28, 2019, 07:55:13 PM
$40 for a vehicle to park at the met life? they out of their minds?!?
Email I just got says $46
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on December 28, 2019, 08:00:29 PM
$40 for a vehicle to park at the met life? they out of their minds?!?
Email I just got says $46

"They are NOT available through the Agudah offices, and the parking fee ($46 per pass) goes entirely to MetLife Stadium. "
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shapsam on December 28, 2019, 08:01:20 PM
How much is parking at a football game?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 28, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
"They are NOT available through the Agudah offices, and the parking fee ($46 per pass) goes entirely to MetLife Stadium. "
From the website.
Day of Event Parking Cost: $40 per car; $160 per Bus/RV. Cash and Credit Cards Accepted

(https://i.ibb.co/JzRjTv8/Screenshot-20191228-200821.png) (https://ibb.co/8jDgwrG)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on December 28, 2019, 08:17:53 PM
From the website.
Day of Event Parking Cost: $40 per car; $160 per Bus/RV. Cash and Credit Cards Accepted

(https://i.ibb.co/JzRjTv8/Screenshot-20191228-200821.png) (https://ibb.co/8jDgwrG)
Hmmm(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191229/2f9293470208dba8bd0cbc623cdfd97e.jpg)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: docbjg on December 29, 2019, 05:21:01 PM
Your screenshot is of a webpage dated 2014. Currently it's $40 to park at games https://www.metlifestadium.com/getting-here/nfl-parking-information (https://www.metlifestadium.com/getting-here/nfl-parking-information) and at the siyum https://www.metlifestadium.com/alert-detail-page/lists/info-news-alerts/13th-global-siyum
 The $46 option promises "expedited entry to The Siyum and be able to park in special reserved parking lots which are much closer to the entrances of the stadium." Doesn't say which lot. Not that I know enough about the lots to judge.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on December 29, 2019, 07:50:41 PM
The page on Ticketmaster to reserve parking is not working!
Anyone else have this problem??
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 29, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
The page on Ticketmaster to reserve parking is not working!
Anyone else have this problem??
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/00005768BBE67236?did=siyumvipparking
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 29, 2019, 09:27:30 PM
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/00005768BBE67236?did=siyumvipparking
You need a code to buy.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on December 29, 2019, 09:31:18 PM
You need a code to buy.

How do I get such a code?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on December 29, 2019, 09:31:38 PM
I’m a major VIP...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 29, 2019, 09:38:05 PM
I’m a major VIP...
If so, you should've gotten an email from Agudah
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on December 29, 2019, 09:54:56 PM
If so, you should've gotten an email from Agudah

עולם הפוך ראיתי...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: MarkS on December 29, 2019, 10:10:45 PM
Can someone explain to me why the schools are closed in lakewood for the siyum?
What school is closed? My sons is open
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on December 29, 2019, 10:25:20 PM
How do I get such a code?

comes with each vip ticket. can make a resale thread because if you buy 3 tickets you can buy three passes.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: MarkS on December 29, 2019, 10:33:18 PM
Your screenshot is of a webpage dated 2014. Currently it's $40 to park at games https://www.metlifestadium.com/getting-here/nfl-parking-information (https://www.metlifestadium.com/getting-here/nfl-parking-information) and at the siyum https://www.metlifestadium.com/alert-detail-page/lists/info-news-alerts/13th-global-siyum
 The $46 option promises "expedited entry to The Siyum and be able to park in special reserved parking lots which are much closer to the entrances of the stadium." Doesn't say which lot. Not that I know enough about the lots to judge.
The VIP Parking says Lots E F and G
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: MarkS on December 29, 2019, 10:35:12 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/sVrrBvx/2013-mls-map.png) (https://ibb.co/5RVV7Wp)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on December 30, 2019, 09:23:58 AM
Bigger question then parking- What is everyone bringing with them? Blankets? Food? Etc..
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 30, 2019, 09:28:06 AM
Bigger question then parking- What is everyone bringing with them? Blankets? Food? Etc..
If bringing anything, make sure to put it in a clear bag - either stadium approved or a gallon zip lock. I don't even think shipping bags are allowed.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on December 30, 2019, 09:33:21 AM
If bringing anything, make sure to put it in a clear bag - either stadium approved or a gallon zip lock. I don't even think shipping bags are allowed.

I know, that's why I'm asking. What are others doing?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on December 30, 2019, 10:03:32 AM
If there is an official color for UPS Brown (https://encycolorpedia.com/644117) there can also be an official color for Artscroll Maroon...
UPS's is probably trademarked (while Artscroll's is probably not). I have a lawyer friend that deals with these kinds of trademarks full-time for a large firm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_trade_mark#United_States
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on December 30, 2019, 10:05:17 AM
https://thesiyum.org/guide

But it does not discuss food.
Is there no guide for Barclay Center?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on December 30, 2019, 10:58:50 AM
https://matzav.com/expedited-siyum-hashas-parking-available-at-american-dream/ (https://matzav.com/expedited-siyum-hashas-parking-available-at-american-dream/)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: davidd75 on December 30, 2019, 12:10:49 PM
most speeches will be in English?

if not will there be free headphones for translations?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Z56 on December 30, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
With is the schedule for the day?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 30, 2019, 12:28:36 PM
With is the schedule for the day?
Gates open 11am, then "pre-siyum programming".

Mincha followed by siyum at 1pm, concluding between 4 and 5, and will undoubtedly be on the later end, if not past 5 if the last siyum is any indication.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 30, 2019, 12:29:40 PM
Are people actually finishing in time for the siyum, ie speeding through the last 2 blatt to be done and then just waiting until Sunday to start brachos? Personally I'm behind but just curious.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on December 30, 2019, 02:24:22 PM
Friend of mine looking for 3 tickets to metlife siyum...pm if u have or know.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on December 30, 2019, 02:54:51 PM
Friend of mine looking for 3 tickets to metlife siyum...pm if u have or know.
I'd post here (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=108173.0;topicseen)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 30, 2019, 05:01:20 PM
https://matzav.com/expedited-siyum-hashas-parking-available-at-american-dream/ (https://matzav.com/expedited-siyum-hashas-parking-available-at-american-dream/)
?! Link?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on December 30, 2019, 05:11:16 PM
?! Link?
Gone now I guess...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Deal Guy on December 30, 2019, 07:36:40 PM
Are the $1800 seats facing the speaker, or sitting behind the speakers?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: travel-ing on December 30, 2019, 07:42:57 PM
anyone buy the vip parking? at checkout it says general admission??
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: gogreen on December 30, 2019, 08:13:25 PM
Are the $1800 seats facing the speaker, or sitting behind the speakers?
I saw somewhere that some speeches will be facing one direction while others will face the other direction.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chaaarvy on December 31, 2019, 12:30:54 AM
https://agudathisrael.org/expedited-siyum-hashas-parking-available-at-american-dream/
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on December 31, 2019, 09:15:44 AM
https://agudathisrael.org/expedited-siyum-hashas-parking-available-at-american-dream/
bad link
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Toasted on December 31, 2019, 09:47:47 AM
I saw somewhere that some speeches will be facing one direction while others will face the other direction.
https://hamodia.com/prime/ceo-coo-siyum/
(https://images.hamodia.com/hamod-uploads/2019/12/First-spread-with-graphs-1024x625.jpg)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: nucheiner on December 31, 2019, 10:08:41 AM
Is it generally quicker for an Uber vehicle to enter and exit the stadium? Are they subject to the same security etc? Aside from the traffic, waiting until each private vehicle pays for parking can be quite bad.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 10:13:15 AM
https://hamodia.com/prime/ceo-coo-siyum/
(https://images.hamodia.com/hamod-uploads/2019/12/First-spread-with-graphs-1024x625.jpg)
Clearly more financially prudent to only have 2 venues instead of 5. They're lucky that there's no blizzard.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on December 31, 2019, 10:55:26 AM
most speeches will be in English?

if not will there be free headphones for translations?

When I went to MSG in 1997 and 2005 there were headphones for purchase. I don't believe there was an option at MetLife 2012 and I am certain they wont be free.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 10:57:40 AM
When I went to MSG in 1997 and 2005 there were headphones for purchase. I don't believe there was an option at MetLife 2012 and I am certain they wont be free.
MetLife 2012 had a call in line that was impossible to hear.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on December 31, 2019, 10:58:38 AM
Are people actually finishing in time for the siyum, ie speeding through the last 2 blatt to be done and then just waiting until Sunday to start brachos? Personally I'm behind but just curious.

Our shul (YIWH) is having Rabbi Rosner Thursday Night and then doing a siyum on Shabbos which is the actual end date.

Also, if you live in WH please PM me as I am hosting a tish Friday Night where we will iyh do Friday and Shabbos' daf so that we can make the siyum in shul as part of the kiddush after davening Shabbos morning.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on December 31, 2019, 10:59:51 AM
From: Rabbi Ron Yitzchok Eisenman, Rabbi, Ahavas Israel Passaic
The Short Vort
Good Morning!

Today is Tuesday the third of Teves 5780 and December 31, 2019

Important Final Preparation for the Siyum HaShas


As the horrifying events of Monsey are still so fresh in our minds, coupled with other over manifestations of anti-Semitism in the New York area, it behooves all of us to rethink our preparations for the great convocation of Jews on Wednesday in Met-Life Stadium.
As so many of us are involved in our frantic final preparations before heading off to Met Life Stadium or the Barclay Center or to any other venue for Wednesday’s big event, it’s time to make sure we haven’t forgotten anything at home.
With the help of Hashem, almost 100,000 of us will gather at Met Life Stadium with up to another 20,000 or so at the Barclay Center.
In the New York City area alone, , there will be over 100,000 openly observant and clearly recognizable Jews of all stripes and colors, men, women and children who will descend upon arenas whose usual clientele is, to say the least, not arriving for spiritual sustenance.
The law-enforcement individuals who will be (with the Help of Hashem) providing the security have undergone sensitivity training in interacting with a population whose needs and sensitivities are different than your average attendee to an event at Met Life or the Barclay Center.
Therefore, it behooves us, we as Jews who the Mishna describes, “Beloved are Israel, for they are called children of Hashem” to undergo a last minute sensitivity training in order to allow us to enhance this unique event to its fullest potential.
I have therefore compiled a checklist of items to bring.
Keep in mind that this event is a momentous one for Kavod HaTorah and for Kavod Shomayim.

The last-minute items to remember to pack:

1.      SMILE
a.      Most important: remember to bring your best smile with you.
b.      Even if you have not used it a in while, make sure you take it out before you head off to Met Life Stadium or the Barclays Center and shine it up so it looks like new.
c.      Make certain your smile is in excellent operating condition as it will be getting a work-out on Wednesday.
d.     Remember to use that smile constantly and consistently as soon as you arrive at the arena.
e.     Keep in mind that all of the workers, security people, police, maintenance people, cleaning staff, parking attendants and anyone else working are human beings.
f.       These are the same human beings who our Sages say about them, “Beloved are human beings, for they was created in the image of Hashem…as it says, “For in the image of G‑d, He made human beings". (Genesis 9:6)
g.      You must smile when you see someone created in the image of Hashem.
h.     Can you think of any other greater irony than for 100,000 plus people who are the children of Hashem who have come to give honor to Hashem, not recognizing those who are also created in His image?
i.       Smile, smile and smile more at each and every person you meet.

2.      Happy New Year!
a.      These people are all working on what is to them one of the most important and universally observed holidays: the day which is called New Years Day.
b.     It is totally irrelevant that these people are also getting paid for their services (even if they are getting time and a half), nevertheless, it behooves us to realize that this day is usually a day off for them and it is “New Years Day” for them.
c.      Irrespective of if you have no problem saying “Happy New Year” or if you are more comfortable having in mind that you are giving someone a belated greeting from Rosh Hashanah, remember to say Happy New Year!
d.      In the eyes and in the minds of the people you will meet if you don’t say “Happy New Year” you are not saying “Good Morning”.
e.     You can also have in mind it’s the New Year for the new cycle of the Daf Yomi. Whatever you are thinking, remember to say, “Happy New Year!”

3.      Thank You
a.      This might be the most important item to remember to bring.
b.     Chazal stressed the importance of recognizing and expressing our gratitude to others. There are countless stories of our great ones – for instance Rav Moshe Feinstein who was always careful to say thank you to the cook in yeshiva- which impress upon us the critical importance of Hakoras HaTov, gratitude.
c.      Remember, and you can start to practice this at home before you leave the house, remember to say thank you to everyone. This of course must be accomplished together and simultaneously with the big smile on your face!
d.     Make sure to say thank you to everyone and anyone. From the man in the parking lot with the illuminated wand, to the security man with the electronic metal detector wand, to the man with the bomb-sniffing dog, to all these and more, remember to say “Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!”

This event, which takes place just once in seven and a half years, is not simply a Siyum HaShas, it is an opportunity to sanctify His name.
Particularly in our times when Eisav has lifted his hand, it is incumbent upon Yakov to make his Kol- his voice- heard loud and clear.
The voice coming from the mouths of all of the descendants of Yakov, has to be the Kol of “Thank you!”
Accompanying the voice of Yakov saying “Thank you”, has to be the smile of Yakov which is being flashed by over 100,000 men, women and children.
As with the Mitzvah of retelling the exodus from Egypt on Pesach, so too with regard to the Mitzvah of saying, “Thank you”, “Happy New Year” – all of course with a big smile- we can say, “Kol HaMarbeh L’Hagid “Thank you” V’Happy New Year”, Mit a Schmeichel Oif dein Ponim -with a smile on your face, “HaRei Zeh Meshubach!”
“The more a person says “Thank you, Happy New Year and does so with a smile on their face, the more praiseworthy they are before Hashem.”
On Wednesday January 1st, we have an opportunity to have the entire world hear over 100,000 times Thank You and over 100,000 times Happy New Year!
We have the chance to flash hundreds of thousands of smiles throughout the day.
Most importantly, we have the opportunity to bring Kavod and honor to His Holy name.
Let us not squander the opportunity.
These items take up no extra room and you don’t have to place them in a clear plastic bag, just keep them on your beautiful face the entire day.
With the “Thank You”s and the smiles of over 100,000 of His children on January 1st, we should merit to say Thank you to Him speedily in Yerushalayim.

“If Not Now, Then When?”- Hillel
Ron Yitzchok Eisenman
Rabbi
Congregation Ahavas Israel
Passaic, NJ
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on December 31, 2019, 03:15:17 PM
https://greaterlakewood.com/see-it-the-siyum-hashas-program/
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avromie7 on December 31, 2019, 03:57:21 PM
Clearly more financially prudent to only have 2 venues instead of 5. They're lucky that there's no blizzard.
I don't think it was a financial decision.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Tomorrow on December 31, 2019, 04:24:00 PM
When I went to MSG in 1997 and 2005 there were headphones for purchase. I don't believe there was an option at MetLife 2012 and I am certain they wont be free.
7184323475 for English. Bring earphones and your phone.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on December 31, 2019, 04:28:37 PM
Finally some schedule posted, why cant Agudah post it directly?

https://greaterlakewood.com/see-it-the-siyum-hashas-program/


Why is there no CHASIDIC rabbi speaking or talking other then Novominsker rebbe? is there discrimination? Should Chasidim abstain and not attend?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 04:32:19 PM
Finally some schedule posted, why cant Agudah post it directly?

https://greaterlakewood.com/see-it-the-siyum-hashas-program/


Why is there no CHASIDIC rabbi speaking or talking other then Novominsker rebbe? is there discrimination? Should Chasidim abstain and not attend?
There's no modern orthodox Rabbi's speaking either. It's Agudah's show - they get to run it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: gogreen on December 31, 2019, 04:35:15 PM
Why is there no CHASIDIC rabbi speaking or talking other then Novominsker rebbe? is there discrimination? Should Chasidim abstain and not attend?
Rav Aharon Shiff, rov of Antwerp is chassidish and will be speaking in Yiddish.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on December 31, 2019, 04:36:19 PM
There's no modern orthodox Rabbi's speaking either. It's Agudah's show - they get to run it.

I get it, they should be called out though, and they should be making it for KLAL YISROEL.

The agudah should reflect its people. They are actively trying to get Chasidim to be part of their organization.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on December 31, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
Rav Aharon Shiff, rov of Antwerp is chassidish and will be speaking in Yiddish.

Missed that one. I am guessing a lot of hard work went into making the schedule but as a non expert in this field I just don't find it reflective of the general participants that will most likely be attending and that includes not only Chasish but as stated (by others) Modern orthodox and others. Again i'm no expert but at a first glance that's what I see.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on December 31, 2019, 04:42:37 PM
I get it, they should be called out though, and they should be making it for KLAL YISROEL.

The agudah should reflect its people. They are actively trying to get Chasidim to be part of their organization.
Finally some schedule posted, why cant Agudah post it directly?

https://greaterlakewood.com/see-it-the-siyum-hashas-program/


Why is there no CHASIDIC rabbi speaking or talking other then Novominsker rebbe? is there discrimination? Should Chasidim abstain and not attend?
Seriously? Get a life. And might as well get your facts straight.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on December 31, 2019, 04:43:56 PM
I have two parking codes available please post if used    TGykW5

THE LINK TO ORDER YOUR PRE-PAID PARKING PASS(ES) IS: https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/00005768BBE67236?did=siyumvipparking

Siyum HaShas Pre-Paid Parking

The following PASSWORD(S) must be entered in order to purchase your passes.  A single password entitles you to purchase up to 3 parking passes.  If you have ordered more than 9 seats, you are receiving 1 password for each 9 seats ordered.

HERE IS/ARE YOUR PASSWORD(S):  PASSWORDS ARE CASE-SENSITIVE.

TGykW5

Due to the limited number of spaces available reserved lots, we respectfully, request that you not share your password with others.

Please note that once you purchase your passes, they are not returnable and non-refundable.  In addition, you must print out the physical pass that will appear on the screen after your purchase, as the Stadium will not allow entry even if you have your pass on any mobile device. A PHYSICAL  PARKING PASS IS REQUIRED.

We are honored that you have chosen to support the Siyum HaShas with your seat purchase, and we are pleased to offer this amenity in order to enhance your experience on the day of The Siyum.  We look forward to your participation in this monumental event l’kovod haTorah.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on December 31, 2019, 04:44:30 PM
Finally some schedule posted, why cant Agudah post it directly?

https://greaterlakewood.com/see-it-the-siyum-hashas-program/


Why is there no CHASIDIC rabbi speaking or talking other then Novominsker rebbe? is there discrimination? Should Chasidim abstain and not attend?
i was thinking the same, the leadership @ aguda used to be more colorful, as of the last few years its not as colorful as it once was you can see it stand out by their conventions also. The irony here is that the founder of daf hayomi was a staunch tzortkov chossid. In my opinion having one chasidic speaker and probaly the only speach in yiddish is odd.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: gogreen on December 31, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
Slightly surprised that the Klausenberger didn't get Kabolas Ol Malchus Shomayim. IIRC, he's done it for at least the last 3 siyumim and his father before him as well.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Tomorrow on December 31, 2019, 04:48:40 PM
I'd say that the majority of the people who speak Yiddish understand English, and not Visa vie, so wouldn't it make sense to have the majority of the speeches in English?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on December 31, 2019, 04:51:45 PM
Seriously? Get a life. And might as well get your facts straight.
i was thinking the same, the leadership @ aguda used to be more colorful, as of the last few years its not as colorful as it once was you can see it stand out by their conventions also. The irony here is that the founder of daf hayomi was a staunch tzortkov chossid. In my opinion having one chasidic speaker and probaly the only speach in yiddish is odd.

@yelped Some might think like you and some might think like myself.

I just hope most think like you, but sadly I think its the other way around. My friends and family  I've spoken to feel the same way, and I have a colorful variety.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on December 31, 2019, 04:51:51 PM
Anyone know what the rules are for bringing stuff into Barclay? Will there be kosher food sold? There's a guide for all this stuff for MetLife but not Barclay.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 04:52:31 PM
I'd say that the majority of the people who speak Yiddish understand English, and not Visa vie, so wouldn't it make sense to have the majority of the speeches in English?
Obviously. Doesn't mean they'll do it, as English isn't "frim".
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on December 31, 2019, 05:14:23 PM
I'd say that the majority of the people who speak Yiddish understand English, and not Visa vie, so wouldn't it make sense to have the majority of the speeches in English?
There's a reason they always used to have most speakers in Yiddish probably because most of our grandparents spoke it, having said that I'm not saying all should be in Yiddish but I think one or two speeches in Yiddish is too little, maybe we should also have a Hebrew speaker just saying.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on December 31, 2019, 05:15:03 PM
Slightly surprised that the Klausenberger didn't get Kabolas Ol Malchus Shomayim. IIRC, he's done it for at least the last 3 siyumim and his father before him as well.
I hear he's not feeling well
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Boruch Parnes on December 31, 2019, 05:22:21 PM
Can someone make a list who they would have as speakers if they would be in charge
Its impossible to have it perfect but I do think agudah did close to perfect
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on December 31, 2019, 05:22:26 PM
I have two parking codes available please post if used    TGykW5

THE LINK TO ORDER YOUR PRE-PAID PARKING PASS(ES) IS: https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/00005768BBE67236?did=siyumvipparking

Siyum HaShas Pre-Paid Parking

The following PASSWORD(S) must be entered in order to purchase your passes.  A single password entitles you to purchase up to 3 parking passes.  If you have ordered more than 9 seats, you are receiving 1 password for each 9 seats ordered.

HERE IS/ARE YOUR PASSWORD(S):  PASSWORDS ARE CASE-SENSITIVE.

TGykW5

Due to the limited number of spaces available reserved lots, we respectfully, request that you not share your password with others.

Please note that once you purchase your passes, they are not returnable and non-refundable.  In addition, you must print out the physical pass that will appear on the screen after your purchase, as the Stadium will not allow entry even if you have your pass on any mobile device. A PHYSICAL  PARKING PASS IS REQUIRED.

We are honored that you have chosen to support the Siyum HaShas with your seat purchase, and we are pleased to offer this amenity in order to enhance your experience on the day of The Siyum.  We look forward to your participation in this monumental event l’kovod haTorah.
I was just PM'd, they were both used.

It was one code for two.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on December 31, 2019, 06:32:58 PM
There's no modern orthodox Rabbi's speaking either. It's Agudah's show - they get to run it.
Isn't RHS speaking?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Boruch Parnes on December 31, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
Isn't RHS speaking?
#FakeNews
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 06:35:55 PM
Isn't RHS speaking?
Wasn't on the published schedule for metlife.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: DTM on December 31, 2019, 06:40:25 PM
Will there a simulcast available online, and, if so, where?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yitz on December 31, 2019, 06:50:54 PM
Charging more for parking at the siyum Hashas than for a regular event is not right.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 31, 2019, 07:05:17 PM
Charging more for parking at the siyum Hashas than for a regular event is not right.
This has n/t to do with Agudah, and is completely handled/charged by Metlife. If you feel it's not right, you can go via public trans
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 31, 2019, 07:06:11 PM
Can someone make a list who they would have as speakers if they would be in charge
Its impossible to have it perfect but I do think agudah did close to perfect
+1
Impossible to please all
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yitz on December 31, 2019, 07:15:09 PM
This has n/t to do with Agudah, and is completely handled/charged by Metlife. If you feel it's not right, you can go via public trans
Nice idea not practical as i am going with 5 people. Why are you saying that it is not the agudah that is charging and making extr profit. They write clearly if you want to park in American Dream Mall they are charging 40.00 and they are getting back 20.00 from them.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 31, 2019, 07:22:54 PM
Nice idea not practical as i am going with 5 people. Why are you saying that it is not the agudah that is charging and making extr profit. They write clearly if you want to park in American Dream Mall they are charging 40.00 and they are getting back 20.00 from them.
Perhaps you got a diff link/parking area than I did. My parking has n/t to do w/Aagudah (although I would prefer Agudah get 50% back)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on December 31, 2019, 07:59:32 PM
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2019/12/30/siyum-hashas-metlife-security-priority-after-monsey-stabbing/2774742001/

Quote
"I don't think there will be a bomb sniffing dog in New Jersey that won't be in the stadium," Golding added.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on December 31, 2019, 08:06:20 PM
#FakeNews
Definitely not fakenews. Just may not end up happening
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: moka on December 31, 2019, 09:06:59 PM
Anyone familiar with the food situation for the $600 and $1800 seats?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on December 31, 2019, 09:11:34 PM
VIP parking is sold out
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on December 31, 2019, 09:22:29 PM
What will food prices be like at metlife ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 09:34:29 PM
What will food prices be like at metlife ?
Impo$$ible to $ay...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on December 31, 2019, 09:46:44 PM
Impo$$ible to $ay...
Which is the best card to use ? :)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 09:51:40 PM
Which is the best card to use ? :)
Someone else's.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on December 31, 2019, 09:54:04 PM
Is the bag police one clear bag per person or could I bring 2?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Willie on December 31, 2019, 10:04:56 PM
What will food prices be like at metlife ?
Will there be food for sale?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on December 31, 2019, 10:09:33 PM
Will there be food for sale?
Yes.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on December 31, 2019, 10:13:57 PM
Where can I find a seating chart for all the sections? (https://www.metlifestadium.com/images/default-source/default-album/updated-concierge-map-page-001735000ca27116db1b361ff0000e46f00.jpg?sfvrsn=b1416d7b_0)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yungermanchik on December 31, 2019, 10:29:14 PM
Program:
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on December 31, 2019, 10:34:39 PM
Will there a simulcast available online, and, if so, where?
https://olami.org/o/live/
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 31, 2019, 10:39:28 PM
When I went to MSG in 1997 and 2005 there were headphones for purchase. I don't believe there was an option at MetLife 2012 and I am certain they wont be free.
There will be English and Spanish translations. Bring your own headphones.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 31, 2019, 10:43:11 PM
Is the bag police one clear bag per person or could I bring 2?
one
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on December 31, 2019, 10:56:58 PM
Anyone familiar with the food situation for the $600 and $1800 seats?
more commercial like, I think
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on December 31, 2019, 11:05:20 PM
more commercial like, I think

which caterer?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on December 31, 2019, 11:49:29 PM
Free drinks can only mean only one thing.........looooooong lines for the bathroom  ;) ;)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Tomorrow on December 31, 2019, 11:53:16 PM
Anyone familiar with the food situation for the $600 and $1800 seats?
All I know is food for 600 and 1800 is different.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 01, 2020, 12:12:54 AM
All I know is food for 600 and 1800 is different.

Not sure what percentage, but some 600 were upgraded to 1800
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 01, 2020, 12:21:00 AM
Not sure what percentage, but some 600 were upgraded to 1800
Indeed.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on January 01, 2020, 12:30:00 AM
All food is coming from Michael schick catering
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 01, 2020, 12:43:50 AM
Free drinks can only mean only one thing.........looooooong lines for the bathroom  ;) ;)
Atleast its not wrigley field!!
😂
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 01, 2020, 12:51:10 AM
Atleast its not wrigley field!!

ALOL
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yuneeq on January 01, 2020, 01:26:22 AM
Why is there no CHASIDIC rabbi speaking or talking other then Novominsker rebbe? is there discrimination? Should Chasidim abstain and not attend?

Funny you say that. Why do 40% of the  speeches (and probably 60% of the speech time) have to be in a language that not everyone understands? Enough with the mesorah crap it’s a European language with absolutely nothing special about it.

But at least a subset of people can feel elite for the extra 20 minutes that the Yiddish speakers need to ramble on.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: bingit on January 01, 2020, 02:06:38 AM
Finally some schedule posted, why cant Agudah post it directly?

https://greaterlakewood.com/see-it-the-siyum-hashas-program/


Why is there no CHASIDIC rabbi speaking or talking other then Novominsker rebbe? is there discrimination? Should Chasidim abstain and not attend?
Why are you making a big deal? Did you see the program for the Barclay center Siyum Hashas?!?! They are having at least 3 Chasidish Rebbas speaking there! (Viznitz, Kossov, Vyelopol & maybe more) so don't think they are discriminating against Chassidim! Besides the 2 Chasidish speakers in MetLife.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: User6669 on January 01, 2020, 02:49:12 AM
what's the current best option for parking? Willing to pay.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 01, 2020, 06:34:51 AM
Wheres the best place to park near metlife? Can I take a train etc?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Moshe123 on January 01, 2020, 06:53:22 AM
Funny you say that. Why do 40% of the  speeches (and probably 60% of the speech time) have to be in a language that not everyone understands? Enough with the mesorah crap it’s a European language with absolutely nothing special about it.

But at least a subset of people can feel elite for the extra 20 minutes that the Yiddish speakers need to ramble on.

As a Sephardi, you can demand speeches in Hebrew.
And for Ashkenazim, it's a lot more than a "European language."
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 01, 2020, 07:15:00 AM
one

But what kind of bag? A big ziplock?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: sguitarist18 on January 01, 2020, 07:22:12 AM
I'm planning on bringing my winter coat with BIG pockets, and just putting lots of food in there.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 07:40:27 AM
But what kind of bag? A big ziplock?
Either a 1 gallon zip lock or a special clear plastic tote (I bought off Amazon for like $6 for 2).
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on January 01, 2020, 07:41:52 AM
Why are you making a big deal? Did you see the program for the Barclay center Siyum Hashas?!?! They are having at least 3 Chasidish Rebbas speaking there! (Viznitz, Kossov, Vyelopol & maybe more) so don't think they are discriminating against Chassidim! Besides the 2 Chasidish speakers in MetLife.
Exactly the point they sent them to Barclays so they dont have to give them any of the kibudim
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on January 01, 2020, 07:42:56 AM
As to rabbi schachter talking I hear it's not fake news he talks in one of the video presentations
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on January 01, 2020, 07:47:11 AM
Why are you making a big deal? Did you see the program for the Barclay center Siyum Hashas?!?! They are having at least 3 Chasidish Rebbas speaking there! (Viznitz, Kossov, Vyelopol & maybe more) so don't think they are discriminating against Chassidim! Besides the 2 Chasidish speakers in MetLife.
Can you post the program for Barclay center?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 07:57:12 AM
Funny you say that. Why do 40% of the  speeches (and probably 60% of the speech time) have to be in a language that not everyone understands? Enough with the mesorah crap it’s a European language with absolutely nothing special about it.

But at least a subset of people can feel elite for the extra 20 minutes that the Yiddish speakers need to ramble on.
Wow you sound bitter
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yuneeq on January 01, 2020, 08:01:12 AM
As a Sephardi, you can demand speeches in Hebrew.
And for Ashkenazim, it's a lot more than a "European language."

How about the language of the country we live in. Is that really too much to ask?
If the speeches are meant to inspire and a make a kiddush hashem, why exclude a large amount of people. Unless of course, giving a speech in a German based dialect is more important than making a kiddush hashem.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 01, 2020, 08:05:14 AM
Can you post the program for Barclay center?
http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2019/12/siyum-hashas-official-program.html
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yuneeq on January 01, 2020, 08:08:32 AM
Wow you sound bitter

I can see how I  came off that way. But yes definitely very annoying to sit through Yiddish speeches. I think at least 15-20% of people think the same. For what?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 08:46:18 AM
I can see how I  came off that way. But yes definitely very annoying to sit through Yiddish speeches. I think at least 15-20% of people think the same. For what?
I think it has a lot to do with who is speaking. The ones who speak yiddish will speak yiddish.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 08:51:33 AM
I can see how I  came off that way. But yes definitely very annoying to sit through Yiddish speeches. I think at least 15-20% of people think the same. For what?
What percentage of the crowd do you think will be chassidim who use yiddish as their first language?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: good sam on January 01, 2020, 08:53:41 AM
I'm planning on bringing my winter coat with BIG pockets, and just putting lots of food in there.
I'm surprised football fans never thought of that.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 01, 2020, 08:55:49 AM
As to rabbi schachter talking I hear it's not fake news he talks in one of the video presentations
How do you know, that what you heard isnt fake news?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cmey on January 01, 2020, 09:00:10 AM
All food is coming from Michael schick catering

In the words of Chazal,  כל העולם כולו ניזון בשביל חנינא בני, וחנינא בני דיו בקב חרובין מערב שבת לערב שבת

Translated into today’s terms: The guys sitting in the warm boxes munching on hors d'oeuvres and fine beverages, are doing so in the zechus of the talmidei chachamim huddled in coats and scarves eating Reismans brownie bars and drinking water in the nosebleed section!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 01, 2020, 09:29:37 AM
In the words of Chazal,  כל העולם כולו ניזון בשביל חנינא בני, וחנינא בני דיו בקב חרובין מערב שבת לערב שבת

Translated into today’s terms: The guys sitting in the warm boxes munching on hors d'oeuvres and fine beverages, are doing so in the zechus of the talmidei chachamim huddled in coats and scarves eating Reismans brownie bars and drinking water in the nosebleed section!
If you're really that jealous, I may be able to find you an extra seat in my box
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cmey on January 01, 2020, 09:35:35 AM
If you're really that jealous, I may be able to find you an extra seat in my box
Let’s just say I’m not sitting in the nosebleed section :)

It’s actually kind of a symbiotic relationship: The guys in the boxes are somewhat subsidizing the cost of the nose bleed seats, but no one would be interested in paying for the boxes if not for the 85,000 people sitting outside.....
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 01, 2020, 09:38:50 AM
Let’s just say I’m not sitting in the nosebleed section :)

It’s actually kind of a symbiotic relationship: The guys in the boxes are somewhat subsidizing the cost of the nose bleed seats, but no one would be interested in paying for the boxes if not for the 85,000 people sitting outside.....


any info on if the bar will be open in the coaches club?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 09:42:41 AM
If you're really that jealous, I may be able to find you an extra seat in my box
I'd take you up on that...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 01, 2020, 09:49:11 AM
any info on if the bar will be open in the coaches club?
From what I understood, the event will be dry.
I'd take you up on that...
Unfortunately it was a joke. I wish I could.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yard sale on January 01, 2020, 10:05:07 AM
In the words of Chazal,  כל העולם כולו ניזון בשביל חנינא בני, וחנינא בני דיו בקב חרובין מערב שבת לערב שבת

Translated into today’s terms: The guys sitting in the warm boxes munching on hors d'oeuvres and fine beverages, are doing so in the zechus of the talmidei chachamim huddled in coats and scarves eating Reismans brownie bars and drinking water in the nosebleed section!

Some of those in the boxes are real “Zevulons” (the “adopt a kollel” box etc.) if they get equal schar does that mean that they share in the בשביל חנינה בני as well?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 01, 2020, 10:15:09 AM
There seems to be two livestreams, not sure the exact difference.

https://www.torahanytime.com/#/post?id=40566
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Toasted on January 01, 2020, 10:19:11 AM
Anyone know if there will be plain hot water? Thinking of bringing some tradition soups.

Is a thermos with hot water ok?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yard sale on January 01, 2020, 10:22:52 AM
Anyone know if there will be plain hot water? Thinking of bringing some tradition soups.

Is a thermos with hot water ok?

No thermoses allowed
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Z56 on January 01, 2020, 10:32:28 AM
I will be Private Suites and have a field ticket
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Moshe123 on January 01, 2020, 10:36:26 AM
How about the language of the country we live in. Is that really too much to ask?
If the speeches are meant to inspire and a make a kiddush hashem, why exclude a large amount of people. Unless of course, giving a speech in a German based dialect is more important than making a kiddush hashem.

שלא שינו את לשונם...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:36:54 AM
I will be Private Suites and have a field ticket
Aren't those 2 mutually exclusive?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:37:53 AM
שלא שינו את לשונם...
You are aware the Yiddish is just a derivative of high middle German right? So "yeshivish" English speak has the same significance. If the siyum were in Hebrew, you'd have a point.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 01, 2020, 10:44:29 AM
How about the language of the country we live in. Is that really too much to ask?
If the speeches are meant to inspire and a make a kiddush hashem, why exclude a large amount of people. Unless of course, giving a speech in a German based dialect is more important than making a kiddush hashem.
If you bring headphones, you will be able to listen to English or Spanish translations. Relax.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 01, 2020, 10:45:55 AM
No thermoses allowed
They will be serving coffee, though
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 01, 2020, 10:46:35 AM
You are aware the Yiddish is just a derivative of high middle German right? So "yeshivish" English speak has the same significance. If the siyum were in Hebrew, you'd have a point.

Rav Aharon Kotler said that people (in his days) should speak Yiddish for three reason. (Some wouldn't apply today)

1- To be a Havdalah from the Amim

2- So that Jews around the world can communicate with each other even if their native languages vary. (not applicable today)

3- It has become a holy language because Torah was learned in Yiddish for hundreds of years.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:46:57 AM
No liquids other than factory sealed water bottles allowed.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Toasted on January 01, 2020, 10:51:49 AM
Anyone verify whether parking in non-Agudah sections of the mall is free?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:57:27 AM
Anyone verify whether parking in non-Agudah sections of the mall is free?
I assume event pricing will be in effect.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:58:20 AM
Rav Aharon Kotler said that people (in his days) should speak Yiddish for three reason. (Some wouldn't apply today)

1- To be a Havdalah from the Amim

2- So that Jews around the world can communicate with each other even if their native languages vary. (not applicable today)

3- It has become a holy language because Torah was learned in Yiddish for hundreds of years.
So why not Hebrew? All those reasons should apply.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on January 01, 2020, 11:01:24 AM
Rav Aharon Kotler said that people (in his days) should speak Yiddish for three reason. (Some wouldn't apply today)

1- To be a Havdalah from the Amim

2- So that Jews around the world can communicate with each other even if their native languages vary. (not applicable today)

3- It has become a holy language because Torah was learned in Yiddish for hundreds of years.
So why not Hebrew? All those reasons should apply.
1- We need a havdalah from the zionists too. :)
2- Maybe.
3- Nobody has been using hebrew up until very recently, plus, a language made for unholy reasons will never be holy.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 01, 2020, 11:06:05 AM
Anyone verify whether parking in non-Agudah sections of the mall is free?
I heard agudah backed out of the mall parking contract
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 11:13:52 AM
1- We need a havdalah from the zionists too. :)
2- Maybe.
3- Nobody has been using hebrew up until very recently, plus, a language made for unholy reasons will never be holy.
The language is from the troah. Whether you want to use modern Hebrew or not, the core is still from the Torah. According to the Rambam it's a Mitzvah to speak lashon hakodesh.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on January 01, 2020, 11:18:40 AM
The language is from the troah. Whether you want to use modern Hebrew or not, the core is still from the Torah. According to the Rambam it's a Mitzvah to speak lashon hakodesh.
The language is most definitely not from the torah, it uses words of the torah and many times contorts their meaning.
In addition, the language was intended with the express purpose of promoting an anti-torah philosophy. That in itself makes it unholy.
The Rambam would be referring to an actual holy tongue, not that trash.
R' Ahron Kotler himself ruled it was assur for the Bais Yaakov to teach in that language.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 11:49:49 AM
Snack menu. Also free tea and coffee.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 11:50:31 AM
Yes hot water.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 12:21:15 PM
Someone posted that hot food is for sale at section 120.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 01, 2020, 12:26:55 PM
Snack menu. Also free tea and coffee.
Good ole stadium price gouging.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 01, 2020, 01:31:31 PM
Mincha at the siyum: Never been by any davening with this many women, and it be this quiet.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 01:34:33 PM
Mincha at the siyum: Never been by any davening with this many women, and it be this quiet.
That's unnecessary. Plenty of men regularly talk in shul.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 01, 2020, 01:39:01 PM
That's unnecessary. Plenty of men regularly talk in shul.
I guess it depends on the shul. Where I daven, neither men or women really talk
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 01, 2020, 01:43:20 PM
That's unnecessary. Plenty of men regularly talk in shul.
It's a joke, not jawbreaker. Don't take it so hard.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Tomorrow on January 01, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
Does field level get food?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 01:53:02 PM
Does field level get food?
No
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 02:09:44 PM
My son just reminded me how I the way out from the last siyum we heard two of the staff commenting to each other how they never got so many thank yous before.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 01, 2020, 02:17:07 PM
Does field level get food?
If you come to the coaches club I can pass you something
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 03:31:14 PM
The language is most definitely not from the torah, it uses words of the torah and many times contorts their meaning.
In addition, the language was intended with the express purpose of promoting an anti-torah philosophy. That in itself makes it unholy.
The Rambam would be referring to an actual holy tongue, not that trash.
R' Ahron Kotler himself ruled it was assur for the Bais Yaakov to teach in that language.
Someone should tell Rav Kanievsky shlita.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on January 01, 2020, 03:41:44 PM
In the spirit.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on January 01, 2020, 04:15:37 PM
Someone should tell Rav Kanievsky shlita.
I never said it's assur to speak. But it doesn't meet the criteria of a holy language.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 04:31:30 PM
Find Waldo.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 01, 2020, 04:41:08 PM
Rabbi Gold is pure gold.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on January 01, 2020, 04:44:33 PM
Rabbi Gold is pure gold.
+1
I think he was the best speaker of all. They should've gave him the most time.

I think the stadium was the quietest when he spoke.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 04:45:46 PM
Rabbi Gold is pure gold.
+100
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 05:09:01 PM
Incredible! But I found some guys treating it like a sports game? Waiving your hands to the camera?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: 12HRS on January 01, 2020, 05:10:19 PM
Incredible! But I found some guys treating it like a sports game? Waiving your hands to the camera?

will you ever not be critical?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 05:13:10 PM
I left after the dancing but it should be noted that only one speech was in Yiddish to that point.

I would also comment that there are women who learn as well, whether daf yomi or otherwise, with the blessing of Talmidei Chachamim, and even if the Aguda doesn't want to publically recognize that reality, they would be wise to at least tone down the "wives of learners" rhetoric.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 05:22:06 PM
will you ever not be critical?

I'm not critical. The event was incredible. I like the Waldo guy ;)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: 12HRS on January 01, 2020, 05:24:50 PM
L as in Larry
M as in Mishnayos

L as in Limud?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on January 01, 2020, 05:31:31 PM
The highlight of the event was the dancing!!!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on January 01, 2020, 05:43:18 PM
I left after the dancing but it should be noted that only one speech was in Yiddish to that point.

I would also comment that there are women who learn as well, whether daf yomi or otherwise, with the blessing of Talmidei Chachamim, and even if the Aguda doesn't want to publically recognize that reality, they would be wise to at least tone down the "wives of learners" rhetoric.
It's a much bigger mitzvah to be "wives of learners" than a woman who learns.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 05:45:37 PM
It's a much bigger mitzvah to be "wives of learners" than a woman who learns.
[citation needed]
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on January 01, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
[citation needed]
Gadol metzuveh v'oseh m'mi sheaino metzuveh v'oseh+Ishto Kegufo=
It's a much bigger mitzvah to be "wives of learners" than a woman who learns.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 05:55:12 PM
Gadol metzuveh v'oseh m'mi sheaino metzuveh v'oseh+Ishto Kegufo=
Is that actually brought down that ishto kegufo applies here? We don't say that a man can eat double matzah for his wife.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 05:57:29 PM
Also there are many unmarried women who learn. So that should count.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 01, 2020, 06:02:41 PM
Rabbi Gold is pure gold.
I missed it. Had to leave by the dancing. I thought Rabbi Schiff from Antwerp spoke really really well. Covered all bases. What did Rabbi Gold speak about? Which Rabbi Gold is this?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 06:04:03 PM
I missed it. Had to leave by the dancing. I thought Rabbi Schiff from Antwerp spoke really really well. Covered all bases. What did Rabbi Gold speak about? Which Rabbi Gold is this?
The call in line kept prompting me to push a number. Happened like 6 times during his speech.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 01, 2020, 06:04:30 PM
I missed it. Had to leave by the dancing. I thought Rabbi Schiff from Antwerp spoke really really well. Covered all bases. What did Rabbi Gold speak about? Which Rabbi Gold is this?
Rabbi Yoel Gold. He didn’t go up to the dais. He stood surrounded by the heroes of his inspirational story.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on January 01, 2020, 06:12:39 PM
Is that actually brought down that ishto kegufo applies here? We don't say that a man can eat double matzah for his wife.
I think the point of all those speeches was that the wife gets schar for the husband's learning...
Also there are many unmarried women who learn. So that should count.
Maybe, but still a bigger compliment and more important to be "wives of learners".
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 01, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
Rabbi Yoel Gold. He didn’t go up to the dais. He stood surrounded by the heroes of his inspirational story.
Thanks. I guess I'll watch the rest of the siyum that I missed. It was really beautiful.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 06:37:25 PM
Incredible! But I found some guys treating it like a sports game? Waiving your hands to the camera?
Don't you find it beautiful that this is our "sports game"?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: jose34 on January 01, 2020, 06:48:35 PM
Don't you find it beautiful that this is our "sports game"?
+1; couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 01, 2020, 06:52:17 PM
Find Waldo.
I like this caption:
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 07:49:58 PM
Don't you find it beautiful that this is our "sports game"?

The guy was singing Ani maamim right after the tribute to the kedoshim and the guys in bleachers behind him or waiving like showing up on a sports screen.

Yeah I'm a little sensitive.. I get it, it's a big simcha
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on January 01, 2020, 07:59:05 PM
The guy was singing Ani maamim right after the tribute to the kedoshim and the guys in bleachers behind him or waiving like showing up on a sports screen.

Yeah I'm a little sensitive.. I get it, it's a big simcha
Is it possible these kids never went to a baseball game and are really excited?

Not am excuse and disgusting but nevertheless a possibility.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 08:40:11 PM
The guy was singing Ani maamim right after the tribute to the kedoshim and the guys in bleachers behind him or waiving like showing up on a sports screen.

Yeah I'm a little sensitive.. I get it, it's a big simcha
They are kids.

The guy playing guitar was rocking away too.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 08:45:40 PM
What I found annoying was the way they were zooming in on people in the middle of shmoneh esrei.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on January 01, 2020, 08:46:25 PM
What I found annoying was the way they were zooming in on people in the middle of shmoneh esrei.
+1 and that peak!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 08:51:38 PM
I left after the dancing but it should be noted that only one speech was in Yiddish to that point.

I would also comment that there are women who learn as well, whether daf yomi or otherwise, with the blessing of Talmidei Chachamim, and even if the Aguda doesn't want to publically recognize that reality, they would be wise to at least tone down the "wives of learners" rhetoric.
This is the Agudah and they are going to go with their way of doing things.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 08:56:31 PM


The guy was singing Ani maamim right after the tribute to the kedoshim and the guys in bleachers behind him or waiving like showing up on a sports screen.

Yeah I'm a little sensitive.. I get it, it's a big simcha

Why are you always so concerned with what other people are doing? Why does everyone have to get the same meaning out of something that you did? Why ruin such a beautiful and moving experience for yourself worrying about other people? I didn't even watch the screen most of that performance, I had my eyes closed thinking about what it meant to have almost 100k frum Jews of all stripes gathered to celebrate the continuity of Torah and Torah Judaism just 75 years after Hitler tried to wipe all of that out. The video tribute and following songs were one of the most moving things I've been a part of in my life. It's not often you get to really feel what it means to be a part of something as truly great and awesome as klal Yisroel and I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. Honestly I find it sad that whatever meaning you got out of this was overshadowed by what other people were doing. I hope that by the next siyum you are as taken in by the beauty of what we've accomplished as a nation as I was that you won't even notice what someone else is doing or not doing.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 08:57:48 PM

Why are you always so concerned with what other people are doing? Why does everyone have to get the same meaning out of something that you did? Why ruin such a beautiful and moving experience for yourself worrying about other people? I didn't even watch the screen most of that performance, I had my eyes closed thinking about what it meant to have almost 100k frum Jews of all stripes gathered to celebrate the continuity of Torah and Torah Judaism just 75 years after Hitler tried to wipe all of that out. The video tribute and following songs were one of the most moving things I've been a part of in my life. It's not often you get to really feel what it means to be a part of something as truly great and awesome as klal Yisroel and I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. Honestly I find it sad that whatever meaning you got out of this was overshadowed by what other people were doing. I hope that by the next siyum you are as taken in by the beauty of what we've accomplished as a nation as I was that you won't even notice what someone else is doing or not doing.
+1000000000000
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 01, 2020, 09:00:22 PM
What I found annoying was the way they were zooming in on people in the middle of shmoneh esrei.
Guys manning the videos are not Jewish btw
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 01, 2020, 09:08:19 PM
What I found annoying was the way they were zooming in on people in the middle of shmoneh esrei.
Yup. Thought the same thing
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on January 01, 2020, 09:12:45 PM

Why are you always so concerned with what other people are doing? Why does everyone have to get the same meaning out of something that you did? Why ruin such a beautiful and moving experience for yourself worrying about other people? I didn't even watch the screen most of that performance, I had my eyes closed thinking about what it meant to have almost 100k frum Jews of all stripes gathered to celebrate the continuity of Torah and Torah Judaism just 75 years after Hitler tried to wipe all of that out. The video tribute and following songs were one of the most moving things I've been a part of in my life. It's not often you get to really feel what it means to be a part of something as truly great and awesome as klal Yisroel and I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. Honestly I find it sad that whatever meaning you got out of this was overshadowed by what other people were doing. I hope that by the next siyum you are as taken in by the beauty of what we've accomplished as a nation as I was that you won't even notice what someone else is doing or not doing.

He is expressing his personal opinion that people that are celebrating the torah should not act that way.  Maybe this post will be read by a teacher in a school that can influence his students positively what it means to be respectful for the TORAH.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: sams on January 01, 2020, 09:13:33 PM
Rabbi Yoel Gold. He didn’t go up to the dais. He stood surrounded by the heroes of his inspirational story.
Just because your a great motivational speaker doesn’t mean you deserve a spot on dais (no offense to r gold) Just good to know
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 09:13:39 PM
Guys manning the videos are not Jewish btw
I figured. Maybe someone will see this and next time tell them not to do it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 09:14:21 PM
Just because your a great motivational speaker doesn’t mean you deserve a spot on dais (no offense to r gold) Just good to know
I think he meant that he didn't speak from the podium.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 01, 2020, 09:17:23 PM
I think he meant that he didn't speak from the podium.
Exactly. What else could it have meant ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: sams on January 01, 2020, 09:19:09 PM
Oh sorry misunderstood
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Is it possible these kids never went to a baseball game and are really excited?

Not am excuse and disgusting but nevertheless a possibility.

I was just trying to put it into context and as someone said that I'm always critical.

I thought it was incredible . The survivers etc and Ani maamin..  and then kids waiving.. sorry to rant
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 09:24:08 PM

Why are you always so concerned with what other people are doing? Why does everyone have to get the same meaning out of something that you did? Why ruin such a beautiful and moving experience for yourself worrying about other people? I didn't even watch the screen most of that performance, I had my eyes closed thinking about what it meant to have almost 100k frum Jews of all stripes gathered to celebrate the continuity of Torah and Torah Judaism just 75 years after Hitler tried to wipe all of that out. The video tribute and following songs were one of the most moving things I've been a part of in my life. It's not often you get to really feel what it means to be a part of something as truly great and awesome as klal Yisroel and I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. Honestly I find it sad that whatever meaning you got out of this was overshadowed by what other people were doing. I hope that by the next siyum you are as taken in by the beauty of what we've accomplished as a nation as I was that you won't even notice what someone else is doing or not doing.

You know you are putting words into my mouth... Btw a ke'h 94 year old aushwitz surviver sits next to me in shull.. trust me, it was very deep and emotional.

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 09:29:51 PM
Where can I find the video with subtitles either on English or Hebrew
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 09:30:41 PM
I was just trying to put it into context and as someone said that I'm always critical.

I thought it was incredible . The survivers etc and Ani maamin..  and then kids waiving.. sorry to rant
I understand that watching it on the screen that could take away from the moment.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 09:33:26 PM
You know you are putting words into my mouth... Btw a ke'h 94 year old aushwitz surviver sits next to me in shull.. trust me, it was very deep and emotional.
And yet you still felt the need to post about what some children were doing wrong.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 09:37:48 PM


And yet you still felt the need to post about what some children were doing wrong.



I understand that watching it on the screen that could take away from the moment.

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: KSMH on January 01, 2020, 09:39:59 PM
https://youtu.be/7R_XW6CJtvc?t=310

+1 and that peak!
and then the peak
https://youtu.be/7R_XW6CJtvc?t=350


Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 09:41:45 PM
And yet you still felt the need to post about what some children were doing wrong.

I give up.. maybe you need to ask yourself why you feel the need to be so critical of me?

You attack me for finding fault in something ? Kol haposel, b'mumo posel.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 09:44:31 PM
This is the Agudah and they are going to go with their way of doing things.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 09:51:21 PM
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something.
Their position is that this is the way it should be done.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 01, 2020, 10:10:36 PM
Hate that the program was literally started with someone's agenda.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Willie on January 01, 2020, 10:16:41 PM
Anyone who parked outside the lot and got towed pm me...a cop told me they were towing illegally and wants to get people their money back.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:18:09 PM
Anyone who parked outside the lot and got towed pm me...a cop told me they were towing illegally and wants to get people their money back.
What's the Hava Amina to tow?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Willie on January 01, 2020, 10:26:50 PM
What's the Hava Amina to tow?
Parked at a Popeyes....
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:27:36 PM
Parked at a Popeyes....
Then that sounds like a fair reason to get towed, no?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 01, 2020, 10:34:15 PM
Hate that the program was literally started with someone's agenda.
?
 Mincha is someone else's agenda?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:36:53 PM
?
 Mincha is someone else's agenda?
Maybe he's referring to the part where the Rav (I forget which one) went on the attack against secular Israelis/politicians.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 01, 2020, 10:37:49 PM
Maybe he's referring to the part where the Rav (I forget which one) went on the attack against secular Israelis/politicians.
Whyis that someone else's agenda? He is literally the head of the agudah.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:41:11 PM
Whyis that someone else's agenda? He is literally the head of the agudah.
Quote
Hate that the program was literally started with someone's agenda.

Nothing to do with "else" agenda, just didn't really seem necessary to bring that kind of politics to a siyum, especially since there were  thousands of modern orthodox/zionist people in attendance.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on January 01, 2020, 10:44:58 PM
Anyone notice the Lufthansa a340 fly over during the siyum.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 01, 2020, 10:46:15 PM
Anyone notice the Lufthansa a340 fly over during the siyum.
Lots of planes. I'd thought I had seen that it would be a no fly zone. Thst clearly was not the case.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 10:47:33 PM
Lots of planes. I'd thought I had seen that it would be a no fly zone. Thst clearly was not the case.
THere are different levels of no fly. It apparently did not apply to commercial airliners if it existed at all.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 01, 2020, 10:47:39 PM
Nothing to do with "else" agenda, just didn't really seem necessary to bring that kind of politics to a siyum, especially since there were  thousands of modern orthodox/zionist people in attendance.
That wasn't at the beginning. And he didn't rail against them, just that they should get the message and become religious. Whether or not that is the way to do it, I am not pretending to be knowledgeable and get involved, but he definitely didn't just say that they're garbage and have a nice day.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 10:49:22 PM
Anyone notice the Lufthansa a340 fly over during the siyum.
What about the BA 777 and the SAS A330?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: tmendy226 on January 01, 2020, 10:52:41 PM
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 01, 2020, 10:52:47 PM
Anyone notice the Lufthansa a340 fly over during the siyum.
What about the BA 777 and the SAS A330?
weirdly I saw just UA ERJs and some A319/320s, and a single Porter Dash-8
Lots of planes. I'd thought I had seen that it would be a no fly zone. Thst clearly was not the case.
THere are different levels of no fly. It apparently did not apply to commercial airliners if it existed at all.
Was just for unmanned aircraft.

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on January 01, 2020, 10:55:42 PM
Lots of planes. I'd thought I had seen that it would be a no fly zone. Thst clearly was not the case.
There sure was a no-fly zone over the actual stadium. You could see all the planes banking away from the stadium airspace.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 10:55:54 PM
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...
K, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 01, 2020, 10:57:48 PM
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...
With regard to the cold weather, I'm not sure why that disappointed you. We're you expecting 65 degrees in January? How would the organizers control that exactly? We're you expecting food that wasn't advertised? Could you not bring your own food. Obviously, the quality of the speeches is subjective, but from what I've heard, most thought that at least a few of the speeches were inspiring/interesting.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 01, 2020, 10:58:13 PM
K, thanks for sharing.
Better than my response
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 10:59:52 PM
Better than my response
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 01, 2020, 11:00:18 PM
There sure was a no-fly zone over the actual stadium. You could see all the planes banking away from the stadium airspace.
No, some planes were flying right above, including that Lufthansa plane.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on January 01, 2020, 11:02:22 PM
No, some planes were flying right above, including that Lufthansa plane.
Perhaps that was after the dancing (which I left after that)...
To some, the event commenced when dancing was over...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 01, 2020, 11:02:49 PM
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...
They were all eating from Michael Schick!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: tmendy226 on January 01, 2020, 11:09:15 PM
With regard to the cold weather, I'm not sure why that disappointed you. We're you expecting 65 degrees in January? How would the organizers control that exactly? We're you expecting food that wasn't advertised? Could you not bring your own food. Obviously, the quality of the speeches is subjective, but from what I've heard, most thought that at least a few of the speeches were inspiring/interesting.

Regarding the weather I’m obviously not blaming the organizers to be manipulating the weather Putin style but I don’t get why they would make an outdoor even in NJ on January 1... and I think that is the primary reason why so many seats were empty.

Regarding the speeches granted some were very nice (R’ Schiff for example) but overal it is a super long event with many long speeches which don’t fit such a grand scale event. There are many good speakers that can get a crowd excited and inspired

Also I’m not sure how it was at the stadium but on the broadcast the music presentation was really not amazing to say the least. Looked like they asked them to sing 5 minutes before with no prep

I would say that it would’ve been a great event if it would’ve been a 150 people Siyum in Lakewood but when you want to make an event for 10’s of thousands of people you got to come from a different angle.

It’s amazing to see so many Yidden coming together but the energy could’ve been taken to another level
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on January 01, 2020, 11:11:49 PM
What about the BA 777 and the SAS A330?
My point was that Lufthansa is Germany's flag carrier (I'm not saying they are nazis) it was a strong message that klal yisroel is as strong as ever
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 01, 2020, 11:16:35 PM
Have some thoughts about the siyum with a few critiques.

First of all, the actual siyum (by an audibly emotional R' Shmuel) followed by the singing and dancing of almost 100 THOUSAND (!) Yidden celebrating torah and the kiyum of klal yisroel, was one of the most inspiring and emotionally thrilling events I have ever partaken in . Additionaly, it was a rare moment of tremendous achdus, with everyone dancing in unison, regardless of their background.

It was so moving in fact, that i was left wondering why this element, the achdus that was on display, wasn't highlighted more by the speakers as a theme of the siyum to try to take with us.

Overall i thought Agudah could have done a much better job getting speakers that were more entertaining, especially considering that A. the event was very dragged out (they wanted to make sure it was full for the siyum) and B. The Weather. For example, why not have Rabbi Yoel Gold speak for 20 minutes instead of another monotonous speech by a Rosh Yeshiva (not any disrespect intended) ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 01, 2020, 11:17:07 PM
Regarding the weather I’m obviously not blaming the organizers to be manipulating the weather Putin style but I don’t get why they would make an outdoor even in NJ on January 1... and I think that is the primary reason why so many seats were empty.

Regarding the speeches granted some were very nice (R’ Schiff for example) but overal it is a super long event with many long speeches which don’t fit such a grand scale event. There are many good speakers that can get a crowd excited and inspired

Also I’m not sure how it was at the stadium but on the broadcast the music presentation was really not amazing to say the least. Looked like they asked them to sing 5 minutes before with no prep

I would say that it would’ve been a great event if it would’ve been a 150 people Siyum in Lakewood but when you want to make an event for 10’s of thousands of people you got to come from a different angle.

It’s amazing to see so many Yidden coming together but the energy could’ve been taken to another level

The music of Ani maamin didn't sound well. I dunno it sounded like a bunch of random people were singing.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on January 01, 2020, 11:23:06 PM
Was the sound system clear and understandable where you sat? Where I sat it was so unclear no one in the whole section was able to make out what was being said
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 01, 2020, 11:27:21 PM
Was the sound system clear and understandable where you sat? Where I sat it was so unclear no one in the whole section was able to make out what was being said

-1.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 01, 2020, 11:27:30 PM
Regarding the weather I’m obviously not blaming the organizers to be manipulating the weather Putin style but I don’t get why they would make an outdoor even in NJ on January 1... and I think that is the primary reason why so many seats were empty.

The Moetzes was asked the question and answered that the event should be held at outdoor Metlife. It's better to be in 1 united outdoor venue together than 5 separate indoor stadiums...
The empty seats you are referring to are not unsold seats but rather belonging to those (like myself) who purchased $600+ seats. Those came with an outdoor and indoor seat. The outdoor seats may have been empty-but that's because most of us were inside.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 01, 2020, 11:29:16 PM
The Moetzes was asked the question and answered that the event should be held at outdoor Metlife. It's better to be in 1 united outdoor venue together than 5 separate indoor stadiums...
The empty seats you are referring to are not unsold seats but rather belonging to those (like myself) who purchased $600+ seats. Those came with an outdoor and indoor seat. The outdoor seats may have been empty-but that's because most of us were inside.

+1
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yard sale on January 01, 2020, 11:32:55 PM
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...

I feel bad that it takes more than what took place today to inspire you. Many people find inspiration in even the small moments in life. Today was no small moment. Where do I even start?

To see 90,000 Jews coming together to proclaim that Hashem’s Torah is dear to them. To think of not one minyan worth of Jews, but several thousand minyanim all davening to Hashem as together as one. To think of the cumulative hours represented in today’s crowd in 7 1/2 years of toiling and overcoming all obstacles to finish Shas.To see yidden representing thousands of shuls  and perhaps hundreds of communities celebrating not separately in ones own shul like Simchas Torah but all together along with our Gedolim and manhigim, including Rav Shmuel, who learned in the yeshivas of pre-war Europe. To see Rav Dovid Feinstein insisting that Rav Shmuel take the honor of saying the hadran. To think of the holocaust survivors present who having seen the destruction of Torah Jewry were witnessing four generations of mesaymei hashas. To look at the throngs of Jews and imagine what it will look like when moshiach comes. To stand outside after the event and watch unending streams of Yidden cascade down three flights of escalators in an unending torrent and think “these are our brothers and sisters”. That is unbelievably inspiring.

When someone is inspired he will barely notice the cold and food (think of the Best Buy Black Friday
lines of years past when folks would forgo their meal to line up in the cold on Thanksgiving day for the 5am door busters). When one is uninspired he will then focus on even the slightest discomfort. I pray that you will find a way to focus on all of the moving moments in your life and live a life of inspiration going forward.


Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2020, 11:39:15 PM
To see 90,000 Jews coming together to proclaim that Hashem’s Torah is dear to them. To think of not one minyan worth of Jews, but several thousand minyanim all davening to Hashem as together as one. To think of the cumulative hours represented in today’s crowd in 7 1/2 years of toiling and overcoming all obstacles to finish Shas.To see yidden representing thousands of shuls  and perhaps hundreds of communities celebrating not separately in ones own shul like Simchas Torah but all together along with our Gedolim and manhigim, including Rav Shmuel, who learned in the yeshivas of pre-war Europe. To see Rav Dovid Feinstein insisting that Rav Shmuel take the honor of saying the hadran. To think of the holocaust survivors present who having seen the destruction of Torah Jewry were witnessing four generations of mesaymei hashas. To look at the throngs of Jews and imagine what it will look like when moshiach comes. To stand outside after the event and watch unending streams of Yidden cascade down three flights of escalators in an unending torrent and think “these are our brothers and sisters”. That is unbelievably inspiring.

Beautifully said
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chff on January 01, 2020, 11:40:21 PM
There sure was a no-fly zone over the actual stadium. You could see all the planes banking away from the stadium airspace.

nope - was a TFR only for UAS (drones) https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_9_1120.html
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on January 01, 2020, 11:41:38 PM
I feel bad that it takes more than what took place today to inspire you. Many people find inspiration in even the small moments in life. Today was no small moment. Where do I even start?

To see 90,000 Jews coming together to proclaim that Hashem’s Torah is dear to them. To think of not one minyan worth of Jews, but several thousand minyanim all davening to Hashem as together as one. To think of the cumulative hours represented in today’s crowd in 7 1/2 years of toiling and overcoming all obstacles to finish Shas.To see yidden representing thousands of shuls  and perhaps hundreds of communities celebrating not separately in ones own shul like Simchas Torah but all together along with our Gedolim and manhigim, including Rav Shmuel, who learned in the yeshivas of pre-war Europe. To see Rav Dovid Feinstein insisting that Rav Shmuel take the honor of saying the hadran. To think of the holocaust survivors present who having seen the destruction of Torah Jewry were witnessing four generations of mesaymei hashas. To look at the throngs of Jews and imagine what it will look like when moshiach comes. To stand outside after the event and watch unending streams of Yidden cascade down three flights of escalators in an unending torrent and think “these are our brothers and sisters”. That is unbelievably inspiring.

When someone is inspired he will barely notice the cold and food (think of the Best Buy Black Friday
lines of years past when folks would forgo their meal to line up in the cold on Thanksgiving day for the 5am door busters). When one is uninspired he will then focus on even the slightest discomfort. I pray that you will find a way to focus on all of the moving moments in your life and live a life of inspiration going forward.
You nailed it!! I don’t understand how people are so negative and so kvetchy when there’s so much good... this was the by far the most inspiring and heartwarming Place/event I’ve ever been to!!!
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 12:16:45 AM
I heard that it was unclear until the end how much music they would be able to include due to the cold. Not easy to play with cold fingers.
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Post by: chff on January 02, 2020, 12:17:43 AM
https://youtu.be/7R_XW6CJtvc?t=310
and then the peak
https://youtu.be/7R_XW6CJtvc?t=350
Here is the original, not a screen capture

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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 12:17:46 AM
You nailed it!! I don’t understand how people are so negative and so kvetchy when there’s so much good... this was the by far the most inspiring and heartwarming Place/event I’ve ever been to!!!
I think a lot has to do with looking up the energy from the atmosphere vs viewing from a distance.
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Post by: mmgfarb on January 02, 2020, 12:20:09 AM
I think a lot has to do with looking up the energy from the atmosphere vs viewing from a distance.
+1
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Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 02, 2020, 12:27:56 AM
Regarding the weather I’m obviously not blaming the organizers to be manipulating the weather Putin style but I don’t get why they would make an outdoor even in NJ on January 1... and I think that is the primary reason why so many seats were empty.

Regarding the speeches granted some were very nice (R’ Schiff for example) but overal it is a super long event with many long speeches which don’t fit such a grand scale event. There are many good speakers that can get a crowd excited and inspired

Also I’m not sure how it was at the stadium but on the broadcast the music presentation was really not amazing to say the least. Looked like they asked them to sing 5 minutes before with no prep

I would say that it would’ve been a great event if it would’ve been a 150 people Siyum in Lakewood but when you want to make an event for 10’s of thousands of people you got to come from a different angle.

It’s amazing to see so many Yidden coming together but the energy could’ve been taken to another level
when your there youll have a way different opinion   
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Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 02, 2020, 12:29:21 AM
Nothing to do with "else" agenda, just didn't really seem necessary to bring that kind of politics to a siyum, especially since there were  thousands of modern orthodox/zionist people in attendance.
not against zionism   it was for lieberman etc
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Post by: Toasted on January 02, 2020, 12:30:39 AM
I heard that it was unclear until the end how much music they would be able to include due to the cold. Not easy to play with cold fingers.
Way too many chefs in that mix. 4 star singers, adult choir, kids choir and humongous orchestra. Very hard to get that coordinated perfectly, especially if they're volunteering.
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Post by: Toasted on January 02, 2020, 12:34:12 AM
not against zionism   it was for lieberman etc
+1 He was stressing that Toirah is the eternal neshama of Klal Yisroel. Entire event was a celebration of that point and a testament to it's eternal truth. Noone in the arena should have any problem with that.
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Post by: RebTuvia on January 02, 2020, 01:17:22 AM
The highlight of the event was the dancing!!!

True that very inspiring!
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Post by: RebTuvia on January 02, 2020, 01:21:52 AM
Way too many chefs in that mix. 4 star singers, adult choir, kids choir and humongous orchestra. Very hard to get that coordinated perfectly, especially if they're volunteering.
And S Daskal got everyone very irritated with his shouts..
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Post by: miles lover on January 02, 2020, 02:42:06 AM
Have some thoughts about the siyum with a few critiques.

First of all, the actual siyum (by an audibly emotional R' Shmuel) followed by the singing and dancing of almost 100 THOUSAND (!) Yidden celebrating torah and the kiyum of klal yisroel, was one of the most inspiring and emotionally thrilling events I have ever partaken in . Additionaly, it was a rare moment of tremendous achdus, with everyone dancing in unison, regardless of their background.

It was so moving in fact, that i was left wondering why this element, the achdus that was on display, wasn't highlighted more by the speakers as a theme of the siyum to try to take with us.

Overall i thought Agudah could have done a much better job getting speakers that were more entertaining, especially considering that A. the event was very dragged out (they wanted to make sure it was full for the siyum) and B. The Weather. For example, why not have Rabbi Yoel Gold speak for 20 minutes instead of another monotonous speech by a Rosh Yeshiva (not any disrespect intended) ?
Yoel gold should speak for 20 min ? Your out of your mind. He clearly makes up story after story.
 
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Post by: miles lover on January 02, 2020, 02:48:02 AM
And S Daskal got everyone very irritated with his shouts..
Haha agreed. He looked very cold keeping his hands in his pockets so he prob just tried to break the cold by screaming leibidik :)
  Did he say a shmeichel instead of ashreichem ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 07:15:00 AM
I thihk the siyum and dancing were amazing and really beautiful. For those who have been following my posts here, you'll know that I'm modern Orthodox. While I would have preferred certain things be more diverse (such as Rav Hershel Schechter speaking in person rather than only on a video clip), an acknowledgment of women beyond in relation to their husband's, etc, I thihk this siyum was far better executed than the one 7. 5 years ago (I was there, on the field). The siyum had highlights that spoke to everyone, and maybe in 7.5 years, the Agudah will focus more on the highlights (unity, dancing, Simchas HaTorah) and the next one will be even better.

I'm surprised to see critiques of the  music and the crowd, because I think anyone there felt a mincha that you wouldn't beleive (silent 75% full stadium), ruach, and such Simcha.
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Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 07:23:09 AM
  Did he say a shmeichel instead of ashreichem ?
That sounds like something he would do :)
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Post by: Dave321 on January 02, 2020, 09:32:56 AM
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...

 i dont understand why they dont do like chabad. A guy from the largest daily shuir, from the most remote shuir, the longest running shuir etc. instead it was just to prop up the aguduh agenda and not much about the siyum at all...
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 09:36:36 AM
i dont understand why they dont do like chabad. A guy from the largest daily shuir, from the most remote shuir, the longest running shuir etc. instead it was just to prop up the aguduh agenda and not much about the siyum at all...
Which event were you at?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 09:38:08 AM
I thihk the siyum and dancing were amazing and really beautiful. For those who have been following my posts here, you'll know that I'm modern Orthodox. While I would have preferred certain things be more diverse (such as Rav Hershel Schechter speaking in person rather than only on a video clip), an acknowledgment of women beyond in relation to their husband's, etc, I thihk this siyum was far better executed than the one 7. 5 years ago (I was there, on the field). The siyum had highlights that spoke to everyone, and maybe in 7.5 years, the Agudah will focus more on the highlights (unity, dancing, Simchas HaTorah) and the next one will be even better.

I'm surprised to see critiques of the  music and the crowd, because I think anyone there felt a mincha that you wouldn't beleive (silent 75% full stadium), ruach, and such Simcha.
What about singing Hatikva? Women speakers?
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Post by: dealfinder11 on January 02, 2020, 09:38:21 AM
Yoel gold should speak for 20 min ? Your out of your mind. He clearly makes up story after story.

i'm sorry you feel that way. What did he say that offended you?
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Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 09:40:25 AM
i dont understand why they dont do like chabad. A guy from the largest daily shuir, from the most remote shuir, the longest running shuir etc. instead it was just to prop up the aguduh agenda and not much about the siyum at all...
They highlighted a child with cancer and a guy with ALS (I left after dancing, heard there was one more), plus the videos.

I agree though that the 3 dovrei pesicha and the 2 keynote addresses was a bit over the top. Not to mention that they probably could have streamlined the siyum mishnayos into the main siyum.

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Post by: Moshe123 on January 02, 2020, 09:41:25 AM
Still can't get over the fact that the אנגעפאשעטע aguda people didn't even think of looking to get a sponsor for a bottle of water and a danish in the bag with their thick magazines.

ברוך אתה ה' שלא עשני ליטוואק.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 09:44:59 AM
What about singing Hatikva? Women speakers?
There's what I would do vs. What it's realistic to except at a charedi event. I had no issue with no women speakers or zionism. But thdy could have just spoken to all learners regardless of gender as opposed to repeatedly singling out the wives, when many of the women there were teens/students or women who learn in their own right.

Also a Rav who happens to be the Rav of a young Israel or Rosh Yeshiva at YU certainly is on the level to speak. If Jay Schottenstein is honored to say Kaddish, surely Rav Schechter or the like should be invited to speak.
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Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 09:46:19 AM
Still can't get over the fact that the אנגעפאשעטע aguda people didn't even think of looking to get a sponsor for a bottle of water and a danish in the bag with their thick magazines.

ברוך אתה ה' שלא עשני ליטוואק.
They did have free hot water. So fill a cup and wait 5 minutes in the cold.

Handing out bottled water may have been against the agreement with metlife and the concession that has a monopoly on selling food.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 02, 2020, 09:46:26 AM
They highlighted a child with cancer and a guy with ALS (I left after dancing, heard there was one more), plus the videos.

I agree though that the 3 dovrei pesicha and the 2 keynote addresses was a bit over the top. Not to mention that they probably could have streamlined the siyum mishnayos into the main siyum.

from what i understand they intentionally added those in before so the stadium would be at full capacity for the actual siyum. Not that i was happy with that arrangement, as i found the first couple hours incredibly boring, just pointing out their rational . (i also left after the dancing because it was so shlepped out).
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Post by: dealfinder11 on January 02, 2020, 09:49:23 AM
There's what I would do vs. What it's realistic to except at a charedi event. I had no issue with no women speakers or zionism. But thdy could have just spoken to all learners regardless of gender as opposed to repeatedly singling out the wives, when many of the women there were teens/students or women who learn in their own right.

Also a Rav who happens to be the Rav of a young Israel or Rosh Yeshiva at YU certainly is on the level to speak. If Jay Schottenstein is honored to say Kaddish, surely Rav Schechter or the like should be invited to speak.

There was no concern that Mr Schottenstein was going to ad-lib kaddish. There was concern about what Rav Schechter Shlita would say that might upset the more chareidi public.
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 09:49:54 AM


There's what I would do vs. What it's realistic to except at a charedi event
You are having a difficult time seeing where to draw that line.
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 09:51:25 AM
There was no concern that Mr Schottenstein was going to ad-lib kaddish. There was concern about what Rav Schechter Shlita would say that might upset the more chareidi public.
The speeches were so screened that the Hebrew translation was on the screen before they said it.
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Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 09:55:52 AM
The speeches were so screened that the Hebrew translation was on the screen before they said it.
The allowed rabbi Lau at the last one (granted, that one ran so late that many, myself included weren't around to hear it).

The 2 are probably relatively similar hashkafically.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 10:00:27 AM
And getting around the women issue is simple - just talk about melamdim and families. Who does that hurt?
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 10:02:06 AM
The allowed rabbi Lau at the last one (granted, that one ran so late that many, myself included weren't around to hear it).

The 2 are probably relatively similar hashkafically.
My point was that this was not a concern. Besides, Rav Schachter is way to smart to do such a thing. I know from personal experience that he is very in tune to this. He probably would decline if offered.
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Post by: yuneeq on January 02, 2020, 10:04:15 AM
They did have free hot water. So fill a cup and wait 5 minutes in the cold.

Handing out bottled water may have been against the agreement with metlife and the concession that has a monopoly on selling food.

They have 7 kosher stands operating during a football game, they only had 1 yesterday. Food is a huge part of every siyum, it's something I feel they should greatly improve for next time, even if it has to be sold.

And getting around the women issue is simple - just talk about melamdim and families. Who does that hurt?

For Agudah, highlighting the women supporting their husbands is about as progressive as they will get. Previous siyumim they were probably an afterthought, if mentioned much at all. Not that I think they should've done more.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
And getting around the women issue is simple - just talk about melamdim and families. Who does that hurt?
They don't see it as something to get around.
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 10:05:22 AM
They have 7 kosher stands operating during a football game, they only had 1 yesterday. Food is a huge part of every siyum, it's something I feel they should greatly improve for next time, even if it has to be sold.

For Agudah, highlighting the women supporting their husbands is about as progressive as they will get. Previous siyumim they were probably an afterthought, if mentioned much at all. Not that I think they should've done more.
Until MetLife there was barely a section for women at all.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 10:08:17 AM
Yes, hot food for purchase would have been nice in abundance. I waited 20 mins on line for hot dogs between 1230-1250. I can only imagine the demand after the stadium filled.

I also think the luxury vs everyone else screamed money rather than achdus. They loved to talk about achdus but in practice, a lot was clearly geared to one specific group of people.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 02, 2020, 10:10:20 AM
Jerusalem's Siyum was a disaster imo, poorly organized, and pretty boring. They asked people to stay and not leave towards the end, since half of the ICC emptied out
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Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 02, 2020, 10:10:35 AM
Yes, hot food for purchase would have been nice in abundance. I waited 20 mins on line for hot dogs between 1230-1250. I can only imagine the demand after the stadium filled.

I also think the luxury vs everyone else screamed money rather than achdus. They loved to talk about achdus but in practice, a lot was clearly geared to one specific group of people.
its sounding like you went there looking for problems
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Post by: RebTuvia on January 02, 2020, 10:12:10 AM

  Did he say a shmeichel instead of ashreichem ?

I think that was Gertner.
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Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 10:12:47 AM
I thihk the siyum and dancing were amazing and really beautiful. For those who have been following my posts here, you'll know that I'm modern Orthodox. While I would have preferred certain things be more diverse (such as Rav Hershel Schechter speaking in person rather than only on a video clip), an acknowledgment of women beyond in relation to their husband's, etc, I thihk this siyum was far better executed than the one 7. 5 years ago (I was there, on the field). The siyum had highlights that spoke to everyone, and maybe in 7.5 years, the Agudah will focus more on the highlights (unity, dancing, Simchas HaTorah) and the next one will be even better.

I'm surprised to see critiques of the  music and the crowd, because I think anyone there felt a mincha that you wouldn't beleive (silent 75% full stadium), ruach, and such Simcha.
There were pros and cons.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yuneeq on January 02, 2020, 10:23:19 AM
There were pros and cons.

Nothing can ever be perfect and the siyum was obviously no exception. But for perspective, if I had to leave after Mincha I would say it was still worth going to. I'm opinionated as anyone else, but I'm biting my tongue because even offering valid feedback doesn't come out right or feel justified.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on January 02, 2020, 10:29:14 AM
They have 7 kosher stands operating during a football game, they only had 1 yesterday. Food is a huge part of every siyum, it's something I feel they should greatly improve for next time, even if it has to be sold.
Agreed, at Barclay there wasn't any stands open and nowhere to buy water. Only the wealthy got to eat at Siyum ;)
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 10:31:13 AM
Nothing can ever be perfect and the siyum was obviously no exception. But for perspective, if I had to leave after Mincha I would say it was still worth going to. I'm opinionated as anyone else, but I'm biting my tongue because even offering valid feedback doesn't come out right or feel justified.
They have come a long way from the one I went to in 1990 which was almost entirely speeches and most of them in Yiddish.

People are not understanding what the event was about. It was about promoting men being קובע עיתים לתורה even more so than being about the Daf. Promoting women encouraging their husbands to do that is a very big part of it and was therefore pushed significantly. Women doing their own learning, regardless of your opinions about that, is not a part of that and therefore does not belong in the equation at all.
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Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 10:32:56 AM
Nothing can ever be perfect and the siyum was obviously no exception. But for perspective, if I had to leave after Mincha I would say it was still worth going to. I'm opinionated as anyone else, but I'm biting my tongue because even offering valid feedback doesn't come out right or feel justified.
What is wrong with expressing positive and/or negative feedback?
A beautiful event can always be improved for next time.
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Post by: th0306 on January 02, 2020, 10:33:12 AM
They have come a long way from the one I went to in 1990 which was almost entirely speeches and most of them in Yiddish.

People are not understanding what the event was about. It was about promoting men being קובע עיתים לתורה even more so than being about the Daf. Promoting women encouraging their husbands to do that is a very big part of it and was therefore pushed significantly. Women doing their own learning, regardless of your opinions about that, is not a part of that and therefore does not belong in the equation at all.
+1
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 10:33:16 AM
They have 7 kosher stands operating during a football game, they only had 1 yesterday.
Why would that be? The owners of those stands did not want to profit off the kosher crowd?

One thing I did see was that the one which was open had an added "heimishe" hechsher for the event. Maybe the others did not want to comply with that?
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Post by: Toasted on January 02, 2020, 10:34:37 AM
Looks like Barclays program included many Chasidishe Rebbes. Vyalipol, Skulen, Kosov, Vizhnitz. Dancing was also open to everyone not only the 1%. link (https://hamodia.com/2020/01/02/13th-siyum-hashas-barclays-center/)

Folks are simultaneously complaining about too long program and lack of representation of specific demographics which are contradictory constraints that Agudah needs to grapple with. Some are do or die to see their Gadol represented. Many prefer to get a flavor of the beautiful diversity of ehrliche yidden.

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Post by: dmilleryu on January 02, 2020, 10:44:12 AM
My first time going to the Siyum. Honestly, I was a bit skeptical of going but I thought it was great. Really nice to share a stadium filled with Jews celebrating Torah. Better than any simchat torah I've ever experienced.

It would be nice to have more Yeshiva University acknowledgment, but was happy that Rav Shachter and Bnei Yeshurun had some presence. 

I thought the coffee situation was very funny though. I can't imagine free hot water and instant coffee at a football game and hundreds of people making coffee for themselves.
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Post by: yuneeq on January 02, 2020, 10:45:30 AM
What is wrong with expressing positive and/or negative feedback?
A beautiful event can always be improved for next time.

I didn’t say its wrong, it just doesn’t feel right.
It feels wrong to criticize without first stating all the positives of a beautiful event, and without being verbose - “it was a great event, but” - it puts the criticism on the same level as the positives.

I think some of the critics really enjoyed the event but it doesn’t read that way. It’s hard to have the patience to write a lengthy post.
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Post by: stooges44 on January 02, 2020, 10:47:56 AM
In 2027 I think we on DDF should all chip in for a box this way:

1) we can meet each other
2) we can hock about it in person and again here
3) we can stop kvetching about the lack of food and others can look at us and think, what fine shmeckers.
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Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 10:52:52 AM
I had club seats, and I'm not wealthy. I went along with a group, and those were the seats I got. One thing I want to say, I definitely would not have attended, had I not been invited and paid for by someone else.  I am not the type of person who easily sits through long events, or listens to speeches. I don't appreciate it the way others do. Having the club really allowed me to take in the moments that I otherwise may not have, if I was sitting elsewhere. I davened mincha and maariv outside with everyone. I was at the dancing. I experienced one of the most moving Keil Maleys ever. I was able to be warm and comfortable, and focus on the speeches instead of getting burnt out from all of it, and loosing patience with it when it got rough. As someone who often doesn't take away much from speeches and events, I took away a lot from this event, and I don't think I would've gotten the same inspiration had I been trapped in a cold seat the whole time. I know this sounds kind of shallow to some, but this is me. Yes, the luxury aspect of it was nice, and the food was nice, but that wasn't the ikur. While I'm probably in the minority, just know, not everyone was in the clubs for hock. It was a huge help to inspire some who wouldn't have been otherwise.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 10:56:55 AM
I had club seats, and I'm not wealthy. I went along with a group, and those were the seats I got. One thing I want to say, I definitely would not have attended, had I not been invited and paid for by someone else.  I am not the type of person who easily sits through long events, or listens to speeches. I don't appreciate it the way others do. Having the club really allowed me to take in the moments that I otherwise may not have, if I was sitting elsewhere. I davened mincha and maariv outside with everyone. I was at the dancing. I experienced one of the most moving Keil Maleys ever. I was able to be warm and comfortable, and focus on the speeches instead of getting burnt out from all of it, and loosing patience with it when it got rough. As someone who often doesn't take away much from speeches and events, I took away a lot from this event, and I don't think I would've gotten the same inspiration had I been trapped in a cold seat the whole time. I know this sounds kind of shallow to some, but this is me. Yes, the luxury aspect of it was nice, and the food was nice, but that wasn't the ikur. While I'm probably in the minority, just know, not everyone was in the clubs for hock. It was a huge help to inspire some who wouldn't have been otherwise.
Weather permitting the next one shouldn't have those issues, but cold was a big reason why I didn't stay for the kel maleh and kabolas Ol malchus shamayim. In that regards, the speeches took away from the siyum element. If they do something like this in the cold again, have the program start 115 and get to the siyum at 2.
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Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 11:15:58 AM
I wonder how many of those discussing how the cold made it too long have sat though colder temperatures for football games. (not referring to anyone specific or even to people on DDF but rather in general)
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Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 11:20:35 AM
I wonder how many of those discussing how the cold made it too long have sat though colder temperatures for football games. (not referring to anyone specific or even to people on DDF but rather in general)
I personally have not, though I did stay the approximate 3.5 hours of a football game from the time the siyum began. I also got there too early (my bad calculating traffic and security lines), so was really 4.5 hours in the cold for me.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 02, 2020, 11:22:21 AM
I was sitting in the field and was in an empty area with no one around me, and I was literally shaking from the cold after the first 5 minutes, but I wouldn't have missed it for a second. Was really beautiful. I feel like they did the best they could to please everyone, audience, different kehilos, and Rabbanim/Roshei Yeshivos. The program was really well done. I personally did not like every speaker, but to others the speakers that I didn't like were their favorite, so that is exactly the point of the entire event.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 02, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
Weather permitting the next one shouldn't have those issues, but cold was a big reason why I didn't stay for the kel maleh and kabolas Ol malchus shamayim. In that regards, the speeches took away from the siyum element. If they do something like this in the cold again, have the program start 115 and get to the siyum at 2.
Never possible to please everyone. Try organizing an event of this magnitude and see if you can please even 50%. So easy to have suggestions for OTHERS.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 11:24:52 AM
Never possible to please everyone. Try organizing an event of this magnitude and see if you can please even 50%. So easy to have suggestions for OTHERS.
There is nothing wrong with suggestions. How else would they improve it?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 02, 2020, 11:25:20 AM
Never possible to please everyone. Try organizing an event of this magnitude and see if you can please even 50%. So easy to have suggestions for OTHERS.
I know, right? They should have set up 20,000 heaters to please everyone who forgot to bring an appropriate wardrobe
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 02, 2020, 11:29:53 AM
I wonder how many of those discussing how the cold made it too long have sat though colder temperatures for football games. (not referring to anyone specific or even to people on DDF but rather in general)

I know I'm not the norm but I've never been to a football game and have no intention of it. The only reason I know the Superbowl is near is because I start seeing all the ads from the local eateries about their Superbowl specials.

That said, after yesterday I truly wonder how people wait for hours and hours and hours in times sqaure to watch a ball drop for 10 seconds.

I had my 8 year old with me and we were both absolutely frigid and that was with gloves, earmuffs, scarves, hooded coats, and hooded sweatshirts. We were on the 200 level and it was windy and freezing. The only place to truly warm up was in the bathroom which was obviously not ideal and the worst part of that is when you went back out you had freeze your tuchas again on the cold seat so it instantly wiped out all the warmth you just built up.

So like I said here (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=112352.msg2177547#msg2177547), we decided to bail and since we there for mincha and the "mini" siyum of the kids on mishnayos and the dancing that followed I figured we were yotze since the rest was kind of a repeat albeit and bit more glamorous.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 11:30:46 AM
I was sitting in the field and was in an empty area with no one around me, and I was literally shaking from the cold after the first 5 minutes, but I wouldn't have missed it for a second. Was really beautiful. I feel like they did the best they could to please everyone, audience, different kehilos, and Rabbanim/Roshei Yeshivos. The program was really well done. I personally did not like every speaker, but to others the speakers that I didn't like were their favorite, so that is exactly the point of the entire event.
Exactly where someone was sitting made a very big difference.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 11:36:39 AM
That said, after yesterday I truly wonder how people wait for hours and hours and hours in times sqaure to watch a ball drop for 10 seconds.
They bring along diapers, that’s how
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on January 02, 2020, 11:37:27 AM
Looks like Barclays program included many Chasidishe Rebbes. Vyalipol, Skulen, Kosov, Vizhnitz. Dancing was also open to everyone not only the 1%. link (https://hamodia.com/2020/01/02/13th-siyum-hashas-barclays-center/)

Folks are simultaneously complaining about too long program and lack of representation of specific demographics which are contradictory constraints that Agudah needs to grapple with. Some are do or die to see their Gadol represented. Many prefer to get a flavor of the beautiful diversity of ehrliche yidden.
I was at Barclays, so I'll add my perspective on the setup there, as well as some thoughts on the overall program.

The place was pretty full, but not completely packed. It felt like it was very dominantly a charedi crowd - maybe majority chasidish, but not dominant. If it wasn't clear from the official seating capacity numbers (>80k vs <20k) Barclays feels tiny in comparison to Metlife. They did the seating by section, not seat. So you get to your section and pick any seat. That worked out well for me, since my $54 tickets were in one of the sections directly opposite the dais, with clear view of the video screen and access directly to the floor. We first sat maybe 5 rows up from the floor, and then back to around 10 rows up so we wouldn't have to crane our necks to watch the screen. When it came time for dancing, everyone was allowed down on the floor, even from the upper seating areas. Here's one of the (very shaky) videos I took:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNrlG5RYILiCI6qj3mcn7xdrZWnjxoJvGR5iVQjTn2uHEHly3rnTM8jckLn0PCmGQ?key=eGxlRWQxazlmZ0RwcnhwNGdSRnZLVEd2U0ZCRkJR

The program at Barclays was mostly live hookup to Metlife, but with significant periods of in-house programming. Aside from the tefilah items (mincha/tehillim/kadeshim/kabalas ol malchus/maariv), the parts we had in house different from Metlife were divrei bracha from the Vyelipoler Rebbe in yiddish (vs R Malkiel in Metlife), some combination of the emcee (not sure who it was) and R Yerucham doing the siyum/hadran (vs R Shmuel in Metlife), and haschalas hashas from R Elya Ber Wachtfogel in yiddish (vs R Aharon Feldman in Metlife). All of the singing and dancing was in-house, except Helfgott, and for some reason ani maamin (which they then did again in-house).

I thought the siyum moments (R Gold, R Farhi, and R Lish) were very nice, and it made sense to do them from on the field instead of on the dais. The videography could've been better, in terms of all the close-in shots of the crowd - which I think is just unnecessary and more like a goyishe sporting event. This led to weird moments like the waving during ani maamin, the shots of people during davening, the kids crowding around during the siyum moments, etc. The pre-recorded stuff was fantastic (as it was last time). In particular the tribute to the kedoshim really packed a powerful punch - especially the parts from R Gifter and R Schwab. Both Rabbi Frand and Rabbi Schiff were excellent. Rabbi Reich was maybe disadvantaged by the later spot in the schedule, but I didn't really connect to his drasha in the same way. Would they do better to shorten the program in some way? Sure. But it's hard to 'trim the fat' with an event like this. I might have felt more strongly about it if I had been out in the cold though.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 11:38:42 AM
I wonder how many of those discussing how the cold made it too long have sat though colder temperatures for football games. (not referring to anyone specific or even to people on DDF but rather in general)
So true. I repeatedly asked myself that while I was there. Thankfully, I had an indoor area to warm up, but while I don't go to football games ever,  I told myself that if I'd sit a combined few hours for a baseball game, I can at the very least do that for this. But to be fair, while it shouldn't be that way, there are many who just don't find this as interesting as football.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 02, 2020, 11:41:48 AM
@skyguy918 exactly. They would be at risk of insulting some segment of Klal Yisroel if they were to "trim the fat".
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on January 02, 2020, 11:43:17 AM
I wonder how many of those discussing how the cold made it too long have sat though colder temperatures for football games. (not referring to anyone specific or even to people on DDF but rather in general)
Its called -Drinking Beer-, ever felt cold after 6 beers?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 11:43:52 AM
Hashgacha that the temp was in the 30s as opposed to the 20s-teebs which is not unheard of here.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 11:45:28 AM
I know, right? They should have set up 20,000 heaters to please everyone who forgot to bring an appropriate wardrobe
And don’t forget the hot dogs, popcorn, beer, & vuvuzelas.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 11:52:00 AM
Hashgacha that the temp was in the 30s as opposed to the 20s-teebs which is not unheard of here.
Temp was fine for me, it was the wind that was brutal.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 11:52:43 AM
Its called -Drinking Beer-, ever felt cold after 6 beers?
LOL and even if you feel cold, you wouldn't care ;D
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 11:55:58 AM
Temp was fine for me, it was the wind that was brutal.

Which is why
Exactly where someone was sitting made a very big difference.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 11:58:53 AM
Which is why
True. Although, regardless of where you sat, it was a heck of a lot better inside the stadium then it was outside!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 12:09:53 PM
True. Although, regardless of where you sat, it was a heck of a lot warmer inside the stadium then it was outside!

FTFY
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 12:11:27 PM
I neighbor of mine asked one of the security personnel on the way out what she thought of the event. She answered that she never saw anything like it. They did not get a single call for a fight, drunkenness, or the like.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 12:13:09 PM
FTFY
That was exactly what I meant. The parking lot was pretty bad when I was walking in. My seat was cold and windy, but not half as cold or windy as the parking lot.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on January 02, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
I neighbor of mine asked one of the security personnel on the way out what she thought of the event. She answered that she never saw anything like it. They did not get a single call for a fight, drunkenness, or the like.
Well there was no alcohol......
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 12:15:09 PM
I neighbor of mine asked one of the security personnel on the way out what she thought of the event. She answered that she never saw anything like it. They did not get a single call for a fight, drunkenness, or the like.
I wanted to video a few conversations with ushers/security so people could seethe impact they really have on these individuals. Unfortunately, I didn't have time, but I think word of mouth will do too ;D
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 02, 2020, 12:20:45 PM
There is nothing wrong with suggestions. How else would they improve it?
Def not by comments here. For the record, "they" don't just flip a coin and make a decision. A LOT goes into it with the Moetzes giving the final word.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 02, 2020, 12:22:07 PM
Well there was no alcohol......
Exactly the point! Find me an event of 90,000 with no alcohol. 
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 12:23:41 PM
Def not by comments here. For the record, "they" don't just flip a coin and make a decision. A LOT goes into it with the Moetzes giving the final word.
Is there a list of who's on the Moetzes somewhere?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 02, 2020, 12:29:20 PM
Is there a list of who's on the Moetzes somewhere?
Google it and you'll see the pictures and names. (too long to list)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 12:32:49 PM
Well there was no alcohol......
Can you imagine! A siyum hashas with no L'chaim?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 12:37:19 PM
Well there was no alcohol......
@Yehuda57 we need the rest of the top 10 signs you knows this was not a Chabad event  ;D
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chief_mag on January 02, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
@Yehuda57 we need the rest of the top 10 signs you knows this was not a Chabad event  ;D
Everyone's shirts were tucked in :)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 02, 2020, 12:49:31 PM
Can you imagine! A siyum hashas with no L'chaim?
You obviously didn't pass by my tailgate party
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 12:50:35 PM
Did anyone catch the fact they posted about the first Gemara being set by bomberg? I was surprised that made it through the editorial board.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 12:50:58 PM
You obviously didn't pass by my tailgate party
OUtside doesn't count. Definitely not
DDMS, just a few clicks. It was quite hot in the computer room.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Mimo on January 02, 2020, 12:52:09 PM
I was at Barclays, so I'll add my perspective on the setup there, as well as some thoughts on the overall program.

The place was pretty full, but not completely packed. It felt like it was very dominantly a charedi crowd - maybe majority chasidish, but not dominant. If it wasn't clear from the official seating capacity numbers (>80k vs <20k) Barclays feels tiny in comparison to Metlife. They did the seating by section, not seat. So you get to your section and pick any seat. That worked out well for me, since my $54 tickets were in one of the sections directly opposite the dais, with clear view of the video screen and access directly to the floor. We first sat maybe 5 rows up from the floor, and then back to around 10 rows up so we wouldn't have to crane our necks to watch the screen. When it came time for dancing, everyone was allowed down on the floor, even from the upper seating areas. Here's one of the (very shaky) videos I took:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNrlG5RYILiCI6qj3mcn7xdrZWnjxoJvGR5iVQjTn2uHEHly3rnTM8jckLn0PCmGQ?key=eGxlRWQxazlmZ0RwcnhwNGdSRnZLVEd2U0ZCRkJR

The program at Barclays was mostly live hookup to Metlife, but with significant periods of in-house programming. Aside from the tefilah items (mincha/tehillim/kadeshim/kabalas ol malchus/maariv), the parts we had in house different from Metlife were divrei bracha from the Vyelipoler Rebbe in yiddish (vs R Malkiel in Metlife), some combination of the emcee (not sure who it was) and R Yerucham doing the siyum/hadran (vs R Shmuel in Metlife), and haschalas hashas from R Elya Ber Wachtfogel in yiddish (vs R Aharon Feldman in Metlife). All of the singing and dancing was in-house, except Helfgott, and for some reason ani maamin (which they then did again in-house).

I thought the siyum moments (R Gold, R Farhi, and R Lish) were very nice, and it made sense to do them from on the field instead of on the dais. The videography could've been better, in terms of all the close-in shots of the crowd - which I think is just unnecessary and more like a goyishe sporting event. This led to weird moments like the waving during ani maamin, the shots of people during davening, the kids crowding around during the siyum moments, etc. The pre-recorded stuff was fantastic (as it was last time). In particular the tribute to the kedoshim really packed a powerful punch - especially the parts from R Gifter and R Schwab. Both Rabbi Frand and Rabbi Schiff were excellent. Rabbi Reich was maybe disadvantaged by the later spot in the schedule, but I didn't really connect to his drasha in the same way. Would they do better to shorten the program in some way? Sure. But it's hard to 'trim the fat' with an event like this. I might have felt more strongly about it if I had been out in the cold though.
Thank you for the report I was looking in the heimishe press for it but none had any
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 01:05:27 PM
Everyone's shirts were tucked in :)

They were covered by coats.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 01:08:44 PM
Did anyone catch the fact they posted about the first Gemara being set by bomberg? I was surprised that made it through the editorial board.
They think Bomberg was a Jew. I did notice that.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 01:10:09 PM
They think Bomberg was a Jew. I did notice that.
How do you know they think that? From his name?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on January 02, 2020, 01:13:43 PM
In case anyone wants to find specific parts of the Metlife stream, here's an index. If someone wants to get fancy they can add direct links.

0:00:45 - Daf Yomi Around the World (Video)
0:03:05 - Mincha (?)
0:25:50 - Bruchim Haboim (R' Chaim Dovid Zwibel)
0:29:10 - Tehillim and Mi Sheberach (Rabbi Shlomo Mandel)
0:34:00 - Divrei Psicha (Rabbi Aryeh Malkiel Kotler)
0:45:25 - Siyum Moment #1 (Rabbi Leibish Lish)
0:48:40 - Divrei Brocha (Rebbi Yaakov Perlow)
1:00:35 - Heroes of the Daf (Video)
1:05:40 - Featured Address (Rabbi Yissocher Frand)
1:26:40 - You Too Can Become Great (Video - Masmidei Hasiyum)
1:31:35 - Siyum Mishnayos (Rabbi Nosson Sherman)
1:37:50 - Hadran (Rabbi Chaim Benoliel)
1:40:10 - Kaddish (Zafir?)
1:42:00 - Singing/Dancing
1:52:30 - Ki Heim Chayeinu (Video - Chavrei Hasiyum)
1:56:50 - Featured Address (Rabbi Aharon Schiff)
2:15:15 - Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky (Video)
2:18:00 - Letter from R' Chaim (Rabbi Reuven Feinstein)
2:21:55 - Siyum Moment #2 (Rabbi Shlomo Farhi)
2:25:50 - What One Man Can Accomplish (Video - R' Meir Zlotowitz zt"l)
2:28:00 - DP Camp Gemara (Video) and Presentaion
2:31:30 - Siyum Hashas and Hadran (Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky)
2:41:40 - Kaddish (Schottenstein)
2:43:35 - Singing/Dancing
3:04:05 - The Impact of the Daf (Video - Chassanei Hashas)
3:08:15 - Haschalas Hashas (Rabbi Aharon Feldman)
3:21:10 - Siyum Moment #3 (Rabbi Yoel Gold)
3:25:40 - Featured Address (Rabbi Uren Reich)
3:46:20 - Zichor Yemos Olam (Video)
3:52:40 - Ani Maamin
3:59:10 - Kel Malei (Helfgott)
4:06:25 - Kaddish (Schoenberger)
4:08:10 - Kabbalas Ol Malchus Shamayim/Sheimos (Novominsker Rebbe/Sanz Klausenberger Rebber
4:12:00 - Maariv (Rabbi Eliezer Ginsburg)
4:33:50 - Kaddish (?)
4:35:35 - Enhance Your Learning (Video)

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 01:17:55 PM
How do you know they think that? From his name?
That would be my guess. Daniel Bomberg sounds like he was from a Yekke family and lives in Monsey today.  ;D
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 01:38:48 PM
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold? How did anyone think that was a good idea?

Why is there no retractable roof?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 01:40:53 PM
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold?
If you dress in enough warm layers it's really not a big deal at all. Much easier to dress for an event like this in 37 degrees than 97 degrees IMHO.
Not sure any of the cold complainers would have survived kayaking in Antarctica :D
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Tomorrow on January 02, 2020, 01:42:06 PM
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold? How did anyone think that was a good idea?

Why is there no retractable roof?
Would have taken away x amount of seats, and the cost of rescheduling rain days was less than the projected profit from those seats. I'd assume now they would not have made the same decision based on what they get per seat due to how bad the Jets and Giants are now.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 01:49:24 PM
If you dress in enough warm layers it's really not a big deal at all. Must easier to dress for an event like this in 37 degrees than 97 degrees IMHO.
Not sure any of the cold complainers would have survived kayaking in Antarctica :D

That was decidedly more exciting ;)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 01:50:13 PM
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold? How did anyone think that was a good idea?

Why is there no retractable roof?
That’s how we know who the real fans are.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 01:57:15 PM
Nothing can ever be perfect and the siyum was obviously no exception. But for perspective, if I had to leave after Mincha I would say it was still worth going to. I'm opinionated as anyone else, but I'm biting my tongue because even offering valid feedback doesn't come out right or feel justified.

What is wrong with expressing positive and/or negative feedback?
A beautiful event can always be improved for next time.

I didn’t say its wrong, it just doesn’t feel right.
It feels wrong to criticize without first stating all the positives of a beautiful event, and without being verbose - “it was a great event, but” - it puts the criticism on the same level as the positives.

I think some of the critics really enjoyed the event but it doesn’t read that way. It’s hard to have the patience to write a lengthy post.
For people who are kvetching at people's constructive criticism, don't forget that in 2012 the only stream was thanks to @jj1000:

https://vosizneias.com/2012/08/06/east-rutherford-nj-viewers-hail-student-whose-live-siyum-stream-reached-thousands/
https://collive.com/93000-and-a-savvy-lubavitcher/

People in the comments rightfully asked why there was no official stream and that was rectified this time around.

Constructive criticism can only help.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on January 02, 2020, 02:00:15 PM
They have 7 kosher stands operating during a football game, they only had 1 yesterday. Food is a huge part of every siyum, it's something I feel they should greatly improve for next time, even if it has to be sold.

For Agudah, highlighting the women supporting their husbands is about as progressive as they will get. Previous siyumim they were probably an afterthought, if mentioned much at all. Not that I think they should've done more.
You sure only 1 kosher stand?
I walked by one in the 300 section area and I believe someone said also in the 100 area..
I brought my own food so it didnt matter. Free coffee and tea was a nice touch.
The warmup room at section 315 was also nice!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 02:01:28 PM
You sure only 1 kosher stand?
I walked by one in the 300 section area and I believe someone said also in the 100 area..
I brought my own food so it didnt matter. Free coffee and tea was a nice touch.
The warmup room at section 315 was also nice!
Guess it was 2.

What warm up room?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 02:02:36 PM
For people who are kvetching at people's constructive criticism, don't forget that in 2012 the only stream was thanks to @jj1000:

https://vosizneias.com/2012/08/06/east-rutherford-nj-viewers-hail-student-whose-live-siyum-stream-reached-thousands/
https://collive.com/93000-and-a-savvy-lubavitcher/

People in the comments rightfully asked why there was no official stream and that was rectified this time around.

Constructive criticism can only help.
They realized if it’s anyway going to be streamed they may as well make some money on it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 02:03:18 PM
Guess it was 2.

What warm up room?
Several Bars/Stores were converted to warm up rooms, as they were enclosed and heated.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:04:52 PM
https://vosizneias.com/2012/08/06/east-rutherford-nj-viewers-hail-student-whose-live-siyum-stream-reached-thousands/
https://collive.com/93000-and-a-savvy-lubavitcher/
The comments on these articles ;D
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 02, 2020, 02:04:58 PM
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold? How did anyone think that was a good idea?

Why is there no retractable roof?

would cost an additional 800 million to build. In the end of the day, it's always about the money.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-can8217t-new-york-build-a-great-stadium-1391050376
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shkop on January 02, 2020, 02:08:15 PM

Constructive criticism can only help.
Unless it is negativity cloaked in righteous constructive criticism, which is generally see-through.   
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:10:01 PM
Unless it is negativity cloaked in righteous constructive criticism, which is generally see-through.   
Right, but people are afraid to offer suggestions because they don't want to be accused of that.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 02, 2020, 02:10:52 PM
@Yehuda57 we need the rest of the top 10 signs you knows this was not a Chabad event  ;D
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Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shkop on January 02, 2020, 02:18:26 PM
Right, but people are afraid to offer suggestions because they don't want to be accused of that.

True. But reading through the last few pages it is clear that most of the negativity is not motivated by a desire for an even better experience.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 02:20:35 PM
True. But reading through the last few pages it is clear that most of the negativity is not motivated by a desire for an even better experience.

Define;

Is the daf purely an agudah thing ? Is the event about the daf or agudah?

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 02:21:30 PM
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1 out of 95,000 ? Couldn’t have been. Every reporter, staffer, & cop would’ve been putting it on.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 02, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
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oy repost
sorry
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=5396.msg2177348#msg2177348
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 02:27:59 PM
If you dress in enough warm layers it's really not a big deal at all. Must easier to dress for an event like this in 37 degrees than 97 degrees IMHO.
Not sure any of the cold complainers would have survived kayaking in Antarctica :D
It was not easy. Especially for those of us who were there early. Not moving vs exerting yourself are way different. Was dressed properly in layers and the cold just got to me at one point that I couldnt stay.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 02:31:19 PM
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold? How did anyone think that was a good idea?

Why is there no retractable roof?
I know. I can't believe the Agudah didn't take this into account when they built it! 8)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 02, 2020, 02:31:35 PM
Several Bars/Stores were converted to warm up rooms, as they were enclosed and heated.

What?!? Where? Why wasn't is publicized? :'( I wouldn't have left if I was able to properly warm up
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shkop on January 02, 2020, 02:31:53 PM
Define;

Is the daf purely an agudah thing ? Is the event about the daf or agudah?

I never thought about that question.

But now that you ask, as per Wikipedia, The novel idea of Jews in all parts of the world studying the same daf each day, with the goal of completing the entire Talmud, was first proposed in a World Agudath Israel publication in December 1920 (Kislev 5681) Digleinu, the voice of Zeirei Agudath Israel,[7] by Rabbi Moshe Menachem Mendel Spivak[8][9], and was put forth at the First World Congress of Agudath Israel which took place in Vienna starting from Elul 3, 5683 / August 15, 1923 and which lasted for ten days.[10] The proposal for the study of Daf Hayomi was made on Elul 7 or 9, 5683 (August 19 or 21, 1923)[11] by Rabbi Meir Shapiro, then Rav of Sanok, Poland, and future rosh yeshiva of Yeshivas Chachmei Lublin and the resolution was adopted on Elul 10, 5683.

So, while nobody has any rights to Limud Hatorah, it does make sense that they would spearhead it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 02:32:42 PM
Define;

Is the daf purely an agudah thing ? Is the event about the daf or agudah?
The Daf is a Klal thing that was proposed by Rav Meir Shapiro who was an Agudist. So it became Agudah's.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:32:58 PM
It was not easy. Especially for those of us who were there early. Not moving vs exerting yourself are way different. Was dressed properly in layers and the cold just got to me at one point that I couldnt stay.
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
@Something Fishy, post your photo DO packing list...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 02, 2020, 02:33:22 PM
I know. I can't believe the Agudah didn't take this into account when they built it! 8)
BTW Tisch said he built it for the Siyum...  ;)
(and for those following the daf see A"Z 2b)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 02, 2020, 02:34:10 PM
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
@Something Fishy, post your photo DO packing list...
forget Antarctica how did you do Svalbard
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 02, 2020, 02:34:38 PM
It was not easy. Especially for those of us who were there early. Not moving vs exerting yourself are way different. Was dressed properly in layers and the cold just got to me at one point that I couldnt stay.

Same! Once the chill came in the bones, there was nothing to do. Like I said a bit up thread if only there was a place to warm up.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 02:34:55 PM
What?!? Where? Why wasn't is publicized? :'( I wouldn't have left if I was able to properly warm up
My son tried to warm up at the one at 315 and he just couldnt. We had to leave before the actual siyum while Rav Schiff was speaking. Watched it on the livestream (Thanks @Dan for the link) in the car. I'm still cold.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YossieW on January 02, 2020, 02:36:44 PM
The comments on these articles ;D

https://collive.com/93000-and-a-savvy-lubavitcher/#comment-1311673
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:37:29 PM
forget Antarctica how did you do Svalbard
13 hours on a snowmobile in a day definitely takes a physical toll. But with good warm layering you can be just fine with the temperature and wind. You can't just go out in the cold for extended periods of time and expect to tolerate it without the right gear.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 02:37:59 PM
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
@Something Fishy, post your photo DO packing list...
It was 37 at 1pm, maybe, and there was wind. Plenty of proper layers. Staff with experience said it was cold.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 02:40:13 PM
What?!? Where? Why wasn't is publicized? :'( I wouldn't have left if I was able to properly warm up
I saw 2 of them. There were large signs.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:40:58 PM
It was 37 at 1pm, maybe, and there was wind. Plenty of proper layers. Staff with experience said it was cold.
Like I said, I snowmobiled for 13 hours in negative temps and strong winds across Svalbard glaciers. Not going to give people a pass here.
If you were cold then by definition you didn't have enough or the proper layers protecting you.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 02:41:31 PM
13 hours on a snowmobile in a day definitely takes a physical toll. But with good warm layering you can be just fine with the temperature and wind. You can't just go out in the cold for extended periods of time and expect to tolerate it without the right gear.
Yes I could have worn ski gear. I didnt see anyone in ski pants. I did see people that were woefully under dressed. Chasidish men in their reklech or with a cheap G&G coat with scarves. Or Yeshivish chevra with their Hat Box wool coats and scarves and the scarf used to hold their hats on their heads.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 02:43:02 PM
Like I said, I snowmobiled for 13 hours in negative temps and strong winds across Svalbard glaciers. Not going to give people a pass here.
If you were cold then by definition you didn't have enough or the proper layers protecting you.
How can you compare dressing for snowmobiling in the Arctic to sitting at an event in an open air stadium in New York in January?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:44:13 PM
Yes I could have worn ski gear. I didnt see anyone in ski pants. I did see people that were woefully under dressed. Chasidish men in their reklech or with a cheap G&G coat with scarves. Or Yeshivish chevra with their Hat Box wool coats and scarves and the scarf used to hold their hats on their heads.
So people were unprepared.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shkop on January 02, 2020, 02:44:38 PM
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold? How did anyone think that was a good idea?

Why is there no retractable roof?

Millions of football fans thoroughly enjoy games in the same exact weather. I imagine that a retractable roof in MetLife would be insanely expensive, but your typical fan is overjoyed to brave the cold regardless. Anyone complaining why the Jets would schedule a game in December would be laughed at to death.

I bet most people there last night were warmed by the beauty of it all.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:44:47 PM
How can you compare dressing for snowmobiling in the Arctic to sitting at an event in an open air stadium in New York in January?  :o :o :o
Not comparing, but it's silly to criticize when people could have just dressed warmer.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
So people were unprepared.
Of course. How many of these people haven't been outside in the cold for more than half an hour at a time?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 02:47:37 PM
I was in thermals, with a heavy snow jacket (forgot my sweater) and wool pants. Scarf, ski cap, gloves, and tow warmers. Sitting in one place gets to you. I wasn't frigid by any means, but it became relatively unpleasant at a point. Luckily the wind in my section (213, first row) wasn't terrible.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shkop on January 02, 2020, 02:48:14 PM
So people were unprepared.

You crack me up.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:48:46 PM
I was in thermals, with a heavy snow jacket (forgot my sweater) and wool pants. Scarf, ski cap, gloves, and tow warmers. Sitting in one place gets to you. I wasn't frigid by any means, but it became relatively unpleasant at a point. Luckily the wind in my section (213, first row) wasn't terrible.
Sounds like you needed more mid layers. It doesn't have to be unpleasant.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 02:48:54 PM
Not comparing, but it's silly to criticize when people could have just dressed warmer.
Some may not own anything warmer.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 02, 2020, 02:49:35 PM
What Dan is trying to say, is that CLE is much colder.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 02:51:17 PM
In conclusion - NYC area needs an indoor venue capable of holding more than 25k.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 02:52:14 PM
So people were unprepared.
The weather changed. The night before there was a surprise quick rain event that even meteorologist were taken by surprise on the New Years eve shows. They predicted 45 degrees for the Siyum on the day befoe and the Agudah ran with that number in its updates. So yes, people were unprepared. But comparing it to preparing to snowmobile the Arctic is a bit far-fetched.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 02, 2020, 02:53:03 PM
I saw 2 of them. There were large signs.

What section? By publicized I mean even if it was in section A, there still should've been a sign in section Z so at least people who want to make their way all the way over, can.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:54:34 PM
The weather changed. The night before there was a surprise quick rain event that even meteorologist were taken by surprise on the New Years eve shows. They predicted 45 degrees for the Siyum on the day befoe and the Agudah ran with that number in its updates. So yes, people were unprepared. But comparing it to preparing to snowmobile the Arctic is a bit far-fetched.
Not trying to compare at all. Point was that with proper layering you can be warm in any temperature, so if you were cold that just means you didn't have proper layering for the temperature.
If the forecasts were wrong, that's another story.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Something Fishy on January 02, 2020, 02:55:09 PM
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
@Something Fishy, post your photo DO packing list...

Yes and no.

I was shooting eagles the other week and stood in one spot for a couple of hours. I was wearing my full Iceland winter setup, yet I was colder there in the 30 degrees than in Iceland with 20 degrees and 50mph winds. Without moving around, your body simply cannot keep warm - especially the extremities.

Of course, with enough layers people would have kept people warm yesterday, but most people never spend any amount of time in the cold while stationary, so they'd have no idea how to prepare.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 02:55:33 PM
I watched it again partially. The people waiving at Ani maamin aren't kids..we just watched a whole video about the 6 million kedoshim and moving addresses by Rav Sher, gifter, Solomon, shwab etc..

The guys waiving their hands like it's a concert.. and supposedly I didn't get the event?

There's a time to laugh and a time to cry.. even I know not to tell jokes at a funeral
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Something Fishy on January 02, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
Point was that with proper layering you can be warm in any temperature, so if you were cold that just means you didn't have proper layering for the temperature.

Absolutely, but

Some may not own anything warmer.

and

But comparing it to preparing to snowmobile the Arctic is a bit far-fetched.

and

but most people never spend any amount of time in the cold while stationary, so they'd have no idea how to prepare.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 02:58:01 PM
most people never spend any amount of time in the cold while stationary, so they'd have no idea how to prepare.
Fair enough. Hopefully they know now.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 02:59:00 PM
Not trying to compare at all. Point was that with proper layering you can be warm in any temperature, so if you were cold that just means you didn't have proper layering for the temperature.
If the forecasts were wrong, that's another story.
I would have been better off in sweatpants, but I didn't think that was befitting the event. My dress pants don't fit over my sweatpants so I did the best I could (thermals and wool pants).
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 03:00:54 PM
I would have been better off in sweatpants, but I didn't think that was befitting the event. My dress pants don't fit over my sweatpants so I did the best I could (thermals and wool pants).
Try 2 layers of thermals next time?
I used lightweight and midweight thermals under my pants: https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/trip-notes/antarctica-trip-notes-part-4-packing-list-journey-south-southernmost-shabbos/

Same for layers of socks, shirts, gloves, etc.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 03:01:31 PM
I thought these stadiums have warmers? Friend at super bowl be in Minnesota 2 years ago said it wasn't so cold
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on January 02, 2020, 03:04:26 PM
BTW Tisch said he built it for the Siyum...  ;)
(and for those following the daf see A"Z 2b)
Wasn't a Tisch that said that. It was the president of the Tisch family company.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 03:05:18 PM
I wore my regular suit, a bulky heavy Costco Sweater under my jacket, a heavy wool winter coat and heavy winter gloves with toe warmers and hand warmers. 5 hours in the same place took a toll.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 03:06:48 PM
I wore my regular suit, a bulky heavy Costco Sweater under my jacket, a heavy wool winter coat and heavy winter gloves with toe warmers and hand warmers. 5 hours in the same place took a toll.
Buy yourself some of these layering items: https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/trip-notes/antarctica-trip-notes-part-4-packing-list-journey-south-southernmost-shabbos/
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 02, 2020, 03:16:36 PM
For the record i don't think it was too cold , just a bit windy ....the hot water definitely helped. ( never even opened the hand warmers)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 03:20:41 PM
At a sports game people are jumping up and down cheering and going to the bathroom every 3 minutes and eating so much food that they fart* continuously and the gases warm you up and everybody's drunk so yeah plus I guess they're used to it and also denim is very warm
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 03:22:28 PM
At a sports game people are jumping up and down cheering and going to the bathroom every 3 minutes and eating so much food that they fart* continuously and the gases warm you up and everybody's drunk so yeah plus I guess they're used to it and also denim is very warm
So I guess that's why the Agudah didn't buld a roof.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 03:25:51 PM
The stationary is what does it. I don't wear coats, and didn't bring one to the siyum. I've walked 2 miles in below freezing temperatures in Chicago, and it didn't bother me. I remember spending a lot of time outdoors in -40 real feel in just my everyday clothes. Moving even slightly makes a world of a difference for keeping warm. Fingers, ears, toes, and nose are a different story. As long as I got those covered, and I'm not stationary, I'm fine.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 02, 2020, 03:26:37 PM
What?!? Where? Why wasn't is publicized? :'( I wouldn't have left if I was able to properly warm up

Came in through the MetLife gate and went up to 100 section concourse before taking an escalator up to the 200 section where our groups's seats were.

When we were walking on the 1st floor concourse to the escalator to the 200 section we passed an area (store/bar) which had big signs on it that said warming station.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 03:28:31 PM
Buy yourself some of these layering items: https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/trip-notes/antarctica-trip-notes-part-4-packing-list-journey-south-southernmost-shabbos/
I'll keep that in mind for the Siyum in 15 years from now.  ;D Only have to worry about rain and extreme heat for the next one.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: hvaces42 on January 02, 2020, 03:30:52 PM
Came in through the MetLife gate and went up to 100 section concourse before taking an escalator up to the 200 section where our groups's seats were.

When we were walking on the 1st floor concourse to the escalator to the 200 section we passed an area (store/bar) which had big signs on it that said warming station.
There was a large warming tent at the ground level when exiting via the stairs near 315. At 315 itself there was a warming room. The bathrooms were warm but smelled awful. Even the concourses were warmer than the actual stadium.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: moko on January 02, 2020, 03:32:12 PM
Why would that be? The owners of those stands did not want to profit off the kosher crowd?

One thing I did see was that the one which was open had an added "heimishe" hechsher for the event. Maybe the others did not want to comply with that?
I don't how the agreements work out but all the food was catered by Schick u der R' Eckstein
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2020, 03:39:43 PM
There was no concern that Mr Schottenstein was going to ad-lib kaddish. There was concern about what Rav Schechter Shlita would say that might upset the more chareidi public.
Seriously?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 02, 2020, 03:47:23 PM
There's what I would do vs. What it's realistic to except at a charedi event. I had no issue with no women speakers or zionism. But thdy could have just spoken to all learners regardless of gender as opposed to repeatedly singling out the wives, when many of the women there were teens/students or women who learn in their own right.

Also a Rav who happens to be the Rav of a young Israel or Rosh Yeshiva at YU certainly is on the level to speak. If Jay Schottenstein is honored to say Kaddish, surely Rav Schechter or the like should be invited to speak.
You keep on complaining why they didn't talk about the women who learn Torah themselves.

I would suggest you to start with this inclusive concept yourself.

From now on, Next time you say Kriyas Shema, Instead of just saying "ולמדתם אותם את בניכם", rather say "ולמדתם אותם את בניכם ובנותיכם".

From there move on to Tfilin etc, It's 2020 now, time for gender equality!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2020, 03:49:35 PM
There's what I would do vs. What it's realistic to except at a charedi event. I had no issue with no women speakers or zionism. But thdy could have just spoken to all learners regardless of gender as opposed to repeatedly singling out the wives, when many of the women there were teens/students or women who learn in their own right.
Whatever your opinion is on women's learning, do you really not get why they don't do this?

Quote
Also a Rav who happens to be the Rav of a young Israel or Rosh Yeshiva at YU certainly is on the level to speak. If Jay Schottenstein is honored to say Kaddish, surely Rav Schechter or the like should be invited to speak.

You really hurt your second argument with your first argument
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 03:51:22 PM
You keep on complaining why they didn't talk about the women who learn Torah themselves.

I would suggest you to start with this inclusive concept yourself.

From now on, Next time you say Kriyas Shema, Instead of just saying "ולמדתם אותם את בניכם", rather say "ולמדתם אותם את בניכם ובנותיכם".

From there move on to Tfilin etc, It's 2020 now, time for gender equality!
Rambam hilchos Talmud Torah 1:13.

Considering the Beis Yaakov movement teaches Written Torah and Halacha, one could assume that the Moetzes is fine with the tiflus concern.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: dealfinder11 on January 02, 2020, 03:57:41 PM
Seriously?

are you unaware of stark hashkafik divide between YU and the main stream ultra orthodox community?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 04:13:21 PM
I don't think Jay has any intention ever of pulling a rechnitz etc but I can ask him.

I should tell him I prefer the noe shteinzaltz talmud over his schotenstein artscroll but while both own Carmel and yatir, Jay has the good Napa wines lol
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 04:14:53 PM
Regarding retractable roof. I was just surprised that no venues in the greater NY area have this capacity. What happens to large concerts? All at msg?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 04:16:57 PM
Regarding retractable roof. I was just surprised that no venues in the greater NY area have this capacity. What happens to large concerts? All at msg?
Many are at MSG. There are some at other venues, but MSG is probably the most popular.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 04:18:10 PM
https://www.livescience.com/42996-open-stadium-super-bowl-2014.html

Weird googling it and you get a lot of info. I just assumed that given the cold etc someone would build something
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 04:19:29 PM
There's also Barclays Center
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 02, 2020, 04:21:00 PM
There was no concern that Mr Schottenstein was going to ad-lib kaddish. There was concern about what Rav Schechter Shlita would say that might upset the more chareidi public.

Do you really know that the Agudah was concerned about what he would say, or is that a personal belief?

There were certainly many great Rabbanim from different branches of orthodoxy who were not represented, but unless you know that R Schecter was not asked to speak because of a specific concern about his message I think its irresponsible to state that he was excluded because of a concern about what he would say.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 02, 2020, 04:23:24 PM
Both with 20k capacity. That's tiny. A rolling Stones concert sells out at over 50k ppl
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 02, 2020, 04:26:00 PM
You keep on complaining why they didn't talk about the women who learn Torah themselves.

I would suggest you to start with this inclusive concept yourself.

From now on, Next time you say Kriyas Shema, Instead of just saying "ולמדתם אותם את בניכם", rather say "ולמדתם אותם את בניכם ובנותיכם".

From there move on to Tfilin etc, It's 2020 now, time for gender equality!
lol
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2020, 04:26:15 PM
Both with 20k capacity. That's tiny. A rolling Stones concert sells out at over 50k ppl
That's large for some artists. Rolling Stones are in the higher capacity tier for performers. I deal with plenty of events that have <10k capacity, some even just a few thousand.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on January 02, 2020, 04:26:26 PM
Both with 20k capacity. That's tiny. A rolling Stones concert sells out at over 50k ppl
All the huge concerts in NYC are in the summer - or at least not in the winter.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 02, 2020, 04:29:48 PM
Do you really know that the Agudah was concerned about what he would say, or is that a personal belief?

There were certainly many great Rabbanim from different branches of orthodoxy who were not represented, but unless you know that R Schecter was not asked to speak because of a specific concern about his message I think its irresponsible to state that he was excluded because of a concern about what he would say.
It has nothing to do with what he would say
It has to do with giving the dais (which would imply possibly an endorsement not of the person but what they represent)
This goes way back to Poland and probably further
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 04:30:07 PM
50k is outdoors
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 02, 2020, 04:36:52 PM
It has nothing to do with what he would say
It has to do with giving the dais (which would imply possibly an endorsement not of the person but what they represent)
This goes way back to Poland and probably further

I was not talking about who was on the dais or even who was asked to speak, my issue is with someone saying

There was no concern that Mr Schottenstein was going to ad-lib kaddish. There was concern about what Rav Schechter Shlita would say that might upset the more chareidi public.

Whatever their reasons are, they are, but conjecture about why someone was or was not asked to speak can't be a good thing for achdus.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 04:40:06 PM
It has nothing to do with what he would say
It has to do with giving the dais (which would imply possibly an endorsement not of the person but what they represent)
This goes way back to Poland and probably further
It's a slippery slope to say that the Agudah needs to agree with every position of everyone who speaks on the dais. They let a board member of YU say kaddish!

My point was not to get into a debate over the hashkafa. My point was that if the speakers are preaching Achdus, but tailoring it  to only a slice of the Torah community, the achdus talking points seem less sincere.

Maybe I'm misguided, but to me, the Ikkur of something like Daf Yomi is that so many people are learning the same Torah at the same time. I would never go to a standard Aguda asifa or meeting and complain about the hashkafa - I just thought the siyum was b'shitta supposed to be about achdus - which a large portion of it was - mostly the dancing and the actual siyum. The speeches around it (and the decisions of who gets to speak and who doesn't) seemed more to cater to Agudah's agenda than the overall siyum. And that's unfortunate to me. But obviously it's well within their purvue to run it how they want.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: abr on January 02, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
did you notice ahron teitilbaum satmer rebbe on big screen what was that is he a agdist
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 04:50:58 PM
did you notice ahron teitilbaum satmer rebbe on big screen what was that is he a agdist
What did they show him doing ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 02, 2020, 04:51:15 PM
It's a slippery slope to say that the Agudah needs to agree with every position of everyone who speaks on the dais.

My point was not to get into a debate over the hashkafa. My point was that if the speakers are preaching Achdus, but tailoring it  to only a slice of the Torah community, the achdus talking points seem less sincere.
Its not every position, its an implicit endorsement of of the institution he represents
dont confuse the issues
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 04:56:55 PM
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Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 05:04:27 PM
Why are all of you assuming that he wasn't invited to speak? If he wasn't, why do you presume to know the reason why?

He probably would decline if offered.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 05:06:05 PM
@Yehuda57 we need the rest of the top 10 signs you knows this was not a Chabad event  ;D

Where is that post about what would have happened if someone yelled at the kinnus hashluchim picture that they hadn't put on tfilin?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Willie on January 02, 2020, 05:30:17 PM
Why did chazzanim for mincha and maariv not wear a talis?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 05:34:00 PM
Why did chazzanim for mincha and maariv not wear a talis?
because it was nusach sfard?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Willie on January 02, 2020, 05:34:44 PM
because it was nusach sfard?
Even for mincha nusach sfard doesnt wear?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 05:49:49 PM
Even for mincha nusach sfard doesnt wear?
no
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 02, 2020, 05:55:59 PM
Why did chazzanim for mincha and maariv not wear a talis?
Yup for nusach Sfard, which is Agudah.
 Camp Agudah and the rest daven Sfard.
 And yes no Tallis in landous, shomer shabbos or any chassidish shul except for stullen, during mincha and maariv during the week.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 06:03:02 PM
except for stullen,
Where ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 02, 2020, 06:04:59 PM
Where ?
Friday night they all wear talaysim!
  But that's why I said weekday's.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 06:06:41 PM
Friday night they all wear talaysim!
  But that's why I said weekday's.
Who does ? Stolin ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2020, 06:09:23 PM
Friday night they all wear talaysim!
Not Chabad.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 02, 2020, 06:27:56 PM
Wasn't a Tisch that said that. It was the president of the Tisch family company.
I stand corrected
listen to this story!!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: good sam on January 02, 2020, 06:34:02 PM
I usually like her stories but she gets this one totally wrong (yes that's me in the comments).

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2020, 06:40:49 PM
are you unaware of stark hashkafik divide between YU and the main stream ultra orthodox community?
Are you unaware that Rav Schachter isn't stupid and the stark divide is nowhere near as wide as you think amongst the leadership
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: good sam on January 02, 2020, 06:51:51 PM
I usually like her stories but she gets this one totally wrong (yes that's me in the comments).

She DMd me saying she'd correct it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 02, 2020, 07:17:58 PM
Rambam hilchos Talmud Torah 1:13.

Considering the Beis Yaakov movement teaches Written Torah and Halacha, one could assume that the Moetzes is fine with the tiflus concern.
They have the heter of learning Torah Sh'biksav which is mentioned there, (as muter bdieved not lketchila), as well as for dinim which is nogea for women.
Torah shel bal peh there is no heter, so they wern't part of this Siyum Hashas for learning themselves, but for enabling their husbands.

And this concept of praising them for enabling their husbands Is a gemura in Bruchos 17 "נשים במאי זכיין"
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2020, 07:21:19 PM
They have the heter of learning Torah Sh'biksav which is mentioned there, (as muter bdieved not lketchila), as well as for dinim which is nogea for women.
Torah shel bal peh there is no heter, so they wern't part of this Siyum Hashas for learning themselves, but for enabling their husbands.

And this concept of praising them for enabling their husbands Is a gemura in Bruchos 17 "נשים במאי זכיין"

While I do not support teaching women torah sheba'al peh, let's quote the sources correctly. The rambam never says that it is assur, so discussing there being a "heter" is not accurate.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 02, 2020, 07:51:31 PM
While I do not support teaching women torah sheba'al peh, let's quote the sources correctly. The rambam never says that it is assur, so discussing there being a "heter" is not accurate.
So let's quote it for you.

צוו חכמים שלא ילמד אדם את בתו תורה וכו׳ אמרו חכמים כל המלמד את בתו תורה כאילו לימדה תיפלות, במה דברים אמורים בתורה שבע״פ אבל תורה שבכתב לא ילמוד אותה לכתחלה ואם לימדה אינה כמלמדה תיפלות

Pretty clear I think.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: RebTuvia on January 02, 2020, 08:57:56 PM
So let's quote it for you.

צוו חכמים שלא ילמד אדם את בתו תורה וכו׳ אמרו חכמים כל המלמד את בתו תורה כאילו לימדה תיפלות, במה דברים אמורים בתורה שבע״פ אבל תורה שבכתב לא ילמוד אותה לכתחלה ואם לימדה אינה כמלמדה תיפלות

Pretty clear I think.
+100
To be even clearer, post the מראה מקום let them look it up themselves!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 02, 2020, 09:00:55 PM
+100
To be even clearer, post the מראה מקום let them look it up themselves!
Rambam Hilchos Talmud Torah 1 - 13
Sh"u Y"D 246 - 6
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 09:01:47 PM
Rambam Hilchos Talmud Torah 1 - 13
Sh"u Y"D 246 - 6
Rambam also quotes an issur for people to accept money for teaching Torah in the same perek, but who's counting.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 02, 2020, 09:05:44 PM
Rambam also quotes an issur for people to accept money for teaching Torah in the same perek, but who's counting.
Smarter people than you have dealt with that already, for centuries. Just do your homework. It's one Seuf before. 246 - 5
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 09:06:36 PM
Smarter people than you have dealt with that already, for centuries. Just do your homework.
Smarter people than me have also dealt with women learning Torah shebeal peh. My point is that not every Rambam is lemaysa today.

But anyway, my point that started all of this was just saying they could thank the families of melamdim rather than specifically the wives anyway as to not automatically disregard any women who learns, even Torah shebictav.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 09:12:06 PM
as to not automatically disregard any women who learns
It didn't sound to me like they were disregarding anybody.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 02, 2020, 09:12:52 PM
Smarter people than me have also dealt with women learning Torah shebeal peh.
Any names? Maybe there is within the Modox community. Even in that case I understand why one wouldn't praise something he thinks is prohibited.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: moka on January 02, 2020, 09:27:28 PM
Well there was no alcohol......
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
Smarter people than me have also dealt with women learning Torah shebeal peh. My point is that not every Rambam is lemaysa today.

But anyway, my point that started all of this was just saying they could thank the families of melamdim rather than specifically the wives anyway as to not automatically disregard any women who learns, even Torah shebictav.

You are missing the boat. This ask is just like asking them to sing Hatikva.


People are not understanding what the event was about. It was about promoting men being קובע עיתים לתורה even more so than being about the Daf. Promoting women encouraging their husbands to do that is a very big part of it and was therefore pushed significantly. Women doing their own learning, regardless of your opinions about that, is not a part of that and therefore does not belong in the equation at all.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 09:30:04 PM
You are missing the boat. This ask is just like asking them to sing Hatikva.
How does a kids siyum mishnayos fit into that theme if it's only about men being kovieh itim?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 02, 2020, 09:35:33 PM
How does a kids siyum mishnayos fit into that theme if it's only about men being kovieh itim?
These boys will all be"h be men one day.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 02, 2020, 10:01:05 PM
Not sure if it was discussed above,  but how many you guys know why they used a boat as a symbol for this year's siyum?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 02, 2020, 10:01:39 PM
Not sure if it was discussed above,  but how many you guys know why they used a boat as a symbol for this year's siyum?
Yam hatalmud?
🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 02, 2020, 10:08:13 PM
Was there really a need to give out three full-length magazines at the door? They couldn't have given out just one?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 10:09:16 PM
Was there really a need to give out three full-length magazines at the door? They couldn't have given out just one?
Not enough room for ads in only one.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 02, 2020, 10:11:11 PM
Not enough room for ads in only one.
Ads that had to be carried around in the cold for hours.

They advertised before that it was the most treasured memento after the last Siyum. I wonder how many people saved it this time.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 10:12:25 PM
Was there really a need to give out three full-length magazines at the door? They couldn't have given out just one?
There was the option to refuse it, no ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 02, 2020, 10:13:00 PM
Was there really a need to give out three full-length magazines at the door? They couldn't have given out just one?
Say better, why not just give out the mincha and maariv, as well as siyum meterial , and on the way out give everyone the three big fat books, that way people don't have to carry it around the whole time.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 10:13:09 PM
Not sure if it was discussed above,  but how many you guys know why they used a boat as a symbol for this year's siyum?
It was staring at me all siyum long.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 10:17:26 PM
It was staring at me all siyum long.
That women's magazine is fascinating. Whole section on how to bind a Gemara, and how to make siyum themed snacks!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 02, 2020, 10:22:54 PM
One positive aspect of the magazines: Just as the stadium was one diverse sea of Jews united, the magazines were a collaboration of all Jewish newspapers and magazines. Yated, Hamodia, Mishpacha, Ami, and more, all had writers and editors working on it.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 02, 2020, 10:24:00 PM
Say better, why not just give out the mincha and maariv, as well as siyum meterial , and on the way out give everyone the three big fat books, that way people don't have to carry it around the whole time.
Not sure why people carried it around. I was sitting, not walking around. Btw, there was some MetLife employees giving out the bags with the material on the way out, too.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on January 02, 2020, 10:26:51 PM
That women's magazine is fascinating. Whole section on how to bind a Gemara, and how to make siyum themed snacks!
Hahahaha lol
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: th0306 on January 02, 2020, 10:42:32 PM
Not sure if it was discussed above,  but how many you guys know why they used a boat as a symbol for this year's siyum?
דף של ספינה נזדמן לי
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: gogreen on January 02, 2020, 10:44:56 PM
Not sure if it was discussed above,  but how many you guys know why they used a boat as a symbol for this year's siyum?
See here
https://mishpacha.com/grabbing-the-daf (https://mishpacha.com/grabbing-the-daf)
Quote
GRABBING THE DAF
 By Yonoson Rosenblum | JANUARY 1, 2020
At the first Siyum HaShas held in Yeshivas Chachmei Lublin, Rav Meir Shapiro, the initiator of the worldwide daf yomi schedule, peered presciently into the gathering gloom. He quoted the Gemara (Yevamos 121a) in which Rabban Gamliel describes standing on the deck of a ship and seeing a nearby ship crash and break apart, casting overboard a great scholar — no less than Rabi Akiva himself.

After reaching dry land, Rabban Gamliel was shocked when the same Rabi Akiva appeared before him to engage in halachic discussion. Rabban Gamliel asked him how he had survived being thrown into the watery deep — to which Rabi Akiva replied, “A board (daf) of the boat floated into my hands. I grabbed on to it, and I bent my head before each and every wave that came toward me until I reached the shore.”

Rav Shapiro emphasized that Rabi Akiva lived during one of the darkest periods of Jewish history, marked by the loss of national independence and the nation’s spiritual center of the holy Temple. But even under the harshest Roman edicts against Torah learning, he produced outstanding talmidim, who would restore Torah to its former glory.

The daf of the ship to which Rabi Akiva held tight, said Rav Shapiro, can be understood metaphorically as the daf Gemara to which we must hold tight for protection against the evils of the day and the far greater horrors yet to come.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yehuda57 on January 02, 2020, 10:52:29 PM
@Yehuda57 we need the rest of the top 10 signs you knows this was not a Chabad event  ;D

When Dan says jump:
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 02, 2020, 10:59:14 PM
See here
https://mishpacha.com/grabbing-the-daf (https://mishpacha.com/grabbing-the-daf)
דף של ספינה נזדמן לי
Yup.
  Or on the way out they played around and wrote "Don't miss the Boat"..😌
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 11:16:32 PM
Did they start Berachos yesterday or today ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 02, 2020, 11:18:14 PM
Did they start Berachos yesterday or today ?
Sunday. The siyum was pushed up for scheduling. Can't book metlife on a potential football Sunday.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Yehuda57 on January 02, 2020, 11:21:21 PM


Can't book metlife on a potential football Sunday.

Pack it up folks, this right here is the best siyum related joke by a long shot
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 11:21:52 PM
Sunday. The siyum was pushed up for scheduling. Can't book metlife on a potential football Sunday.
So how’d they do the siyum part ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 02, 2020, 11:22:36 PM
So how’d they do the siyum part ?
I'm sure R Shmuel finished by Wednesday
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 02, 2020, 11:25:15 PM
What was the sefardishe Rav being mesayim ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 02, 2020, 11:25:43 PM

Pack it up folks, this right here is the best siyum related joke by a long shot
Don't get it yet. Btw, you didn't mean the pun "long shot" here, did you?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: gogreen on January 02, 2020, 11:36:44 PM
What was the sefardishe Rav being mesayim ?
Shisha sidrei mishna
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 03, 2020, 12:16:22 AM
Does anyone know who the MC/announcer was by metlife?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 03, 2020, 03:47:07 AM
Does anyone know who the MC/announcer was by metlife?
His name is Yehuda Deutch
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Ergel on January 03, 2020, 06:27:05 AM
So let's quote it for you.

צוו חכמים שלא ילמד אדם את בתו תורה וכו׳ אמרו חכמים כל המלמד את בתו תורה כאילו לימדה תיפלות, במה דברים אמורים בתורה שבע״פ אבל תורה שבכתב לא ילמוד אותה לכתחלה ואם לימדה אינה כמלמדה תיפלות

Pretty clear I think.
Thank you. It's extremely clear that the Rambam doesn't say it's assur for woman to learn Torah
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 03, 2020, 09:17:24 AM
Sunday. The siyum was pushed up for scheduling. Can't book metlife on a potential football Sunday.
Did you see the governor joking that he could have saved everyone alot of headaches had they told him that was the reason it was being pushed up ?!?!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 03, 2020, 09:18:06 AM
His name is Yehuda Deutch
+1 rebbi in Darchai and head counselor in camp Rayim
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 03, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
Did you see the governor joking that he could have saved everyone alot of headaches had they told him that was the reason it was being pushed up ?!?!
The giants somehow were only eliminated from the playoffs on 12/16, and from the division, which would have meant a home game this weekend on 12/9.

Even if the agudah somehow could have had an option to host on Sunday if no playoff games, there wouldn't have been enough time to publicize the date change.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Toasted on January 03, 2020, 10:10:57 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4d8agve1ll1jy3h/AUDIO-2020-01-03-08-26-09.mp3?dl=0
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2020, 10:23:20 AM
Not sure if it was discussed above,  but how many you guys know why they used a boat as a symbol for this year's siyum?
דף של ספינה נזדמן לי
+1. They sent out sukkah decorations with this theme already 2 years ago (sukkos 2018). I had this one in my sukkah:
(https://agudathisrael.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/daf-yomi-300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 03, 2020, 10:27:49 AM
+1. They sent out sukkah decorations with this theme already 2 years ago (sukkos 2018). I had this one in my sukkah:
(https://agudathisrael.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/daf-yomi-300x300.jpg)

Us too
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 03, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Does anyone know who the MC/announcer was by metlife?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: YitzyS on January 03, 2020, 10:47:03 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4d8agve1ll1jy3h/AUDIO-2020-01-03-08-26-09.mp3?dl=0
Interesting! Where is that from?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 03, 2020, 10:51:23 AM
Interesting! Where is that from?

Got the same in one of my Whatsapp shiur groups - I assume that R krohn does a podcast.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: as2 on January 03, 2020, 11:01:51 AM
Supposedly the Ginsberg from that story is this guy (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-462_p8k0.pdf).
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 03, 2020, 11:04:34 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/c7c04a34fd0d76ddf855114f5fe94448.png)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 03, 2020, 11:04:38 AM
Supposedly the Ginsberg from that story is this guy (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-462_p8k0.pdf).

Also here - https://www.torahanytime.com/#/speaker?l=167
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 03, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/565428fd5c3f01c0b6893cdbb0ccf5ec.png)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 03, 2020, 11:49:15 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4d8agve1ll1jy3h/AUDIO-2020-01-03-08-26-09.mp3?dl=0
(https://i.gyazo.com/c7c04a34fd0d76ddf855114f5fe94448.png)
Wow. What a kiddush hashem!!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2020, 11:53:18 AM
Via https://m.twitter.com/MyShtender/status/1212974311503486976

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENVZqRWWkAI1nLj?format=jpg&name=medium)

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 03, 2020, 12:05:38 PM
Via https://m.twitter.com/MyShtender/status/1212974311503486976

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENVZqRWWkAI1nLj?format=jpg&name=medium)

Know the author well, he's in my DY group.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 03, 2020, 12:08:01 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/c7c04a34fd0d76ddf855114f5fe94448.png)
Beautiful! Get the word out...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 03, 2020, 12:26:24 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/48c8b0311e5ed2d21da6075d60f05b77.png)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 03, 2020, 12:34:29 PM
@mods Please put a space between Yomi and Agudath!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 03, 2020, 12:53:38 PM
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Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 03, 2020, 02:17:49 PM
So is there going to be a measles outbreak?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 04, 2020, 10:16:10 PM
Why did chazzanim for mincha and maariv not wear a talis?

Why didn't they pick a Chazzan for Mincha that can properly say עברי and doesn't swallow words?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 04, 2020, 10:22:59 PM
Why didn't they pick a Chazzan for Mincha that can properly say עברי and doesn't swallow words?
Wouldn't be able to compete with the pure sincerity
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 04, 2020, 10:42:19 PM
Why didn't they pick a Chazzan for Mincha that can properly say עברי and doesn't swallow words?
It was paid for. Most likely stage fright.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 04, 2020, 10:52:54 PM
It was paid for. Most likely stage fright.
עיני כל אליך ישברו... no pun intended, but do you really think that was stage fright?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 04, 2020, 10:53:05 PM
Why didn't they pick a Chazzan for Mincha that can properly say עברי and doesn't swallow words?
Interesting. I thought the Chazzan (whoever he was) actually davened very nicely. I know I would have davened much faster... He was very sincere.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 04, 2020, 10:54:16 PM
It was paid for. Most likely stage fright.
Paid for + stage fright, how does this add up? Why pay if you aren't up to it?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 04, 2020, 10:57:12 PM
How can I watch Rabbi Schiff without the English translation? All the replays seem to have it, and i cant find a Yiddish version of the siyum
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 04, 2020, 10:58:13 PM
Interesting. I thought the Chazzan (whoever he was) actually davened very nicely. I know I would have davened much faster... He was very sincere.
Nicely - yes. Sincere - absolutely. Accurate in uttering the words - well, I wouldn't let my kids get away with that (and I'm not talking about מלעיל and מלרע, many people have a mesorah that for davening it doesn't matter that much).
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 04, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
Interesting. I thought the Chazzan (whoever he was) actually davened very nicely. I know I would have davened much faster... He was very sincere.
I also thought he sounded good, then again I didn’t go looking to criticize  every little detail and I actually enjoyed myself, even though I was frozen
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 04, 2020, 11:00:17 PM
Paid for + stage fright, how does this add up? Why pay if you aren't up to it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Dovid_Zwiebel

I'm not sure I would attribute stage fright to a person with such a career, though it is possible in such a unique setting.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 04, 2020, 11:01:25 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Dovid_Zwiebel

I'm not sure I would attribute stage fright to a person with such a career, though it is possible in such a unique setting.
He was not the chazzan
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 04, 2020, 11:02:53 PM
Paid for + stage fright, how does this add up? Why pay if you aren't up to it?
Nothing against the chazzan, but to answer your question, that’s an old issue goes way back to the times of the Bais hamikdash when people would buy the rights to be the Kohen Gadol and wouldn’t last thru Yom Kipper
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 04, 2020, 11:03:13 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Dovid_Zwiebel

I'm not sure I would attribute stage fright to a person with such a career, though it is possible in such a unique setting.
Was it him davening? Looked like a younger guy.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzgar on January 04, 2020, 11:04:36 PM
Was it him davening? Looked like a younger guy.
It was not
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 04, 2020, 11:06:37 PM
Nicely - yes. Sincere - absolutely. Accurate in uttering the words - well, I wouldn't let my kids get away with that (and I'm not talking about מלעיל and מלרע, many people have a mesorah that for davening it doesn't matter that much).
I'm just curious how one can worry about being medakdek about pronunciation, when most of the Ashkenazi Jewish world in no way, shape, or form, speaks anything close to the pronunciation of a semetic language, which Hebrew is.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 04, 2020, 11:11:12 PM
I'm just curious how one can worry about being medakdek about pronunciation, when most of the Ashkenazi Jewish world in no way, shape, or form, speaks anything close to the pronunciation of a semetic language, which Hebrew is.
Today's Hebrew not authentic either. The Yemenites probably have it the closest.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 04, 2020, 11:12:06 PM
Today's Hebrew not authentic either. The Yemenites probably have it the closest.
Yes. The closer it sound to Arabic, the more accurate is probably is. Or ugariyic but I'm not aware of that language still being spoken.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 04, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
Considering lots of people pronounce it "yisGOOdal vYisKOOdash shOO Maiy ROObU", I'm not really sure how nitpicky we can be.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 04, 2020, 11:24:10 PM
He was not the chazzan
My mistake. I thought I saw it written in the video.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 04, 2020, 11:29:27 PM
Why didn't they pick a Chazzan for Mincha that can properly say עברי and doesn't swallow words?
He actually davened beautifully has he does daily.
He didnt swallow a single word, it was the mike.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 04, 2020, 11:32:35 PM
He actually davened beautifully has he does daily.
He didnt swallow a single word, it was the mike.
The swallowing seemed to come when he bowed.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 04, 2020, 11:33:13 PM
I'm just curious how one can worry about being medakdek about pronunciation, when most of the Ashkenazi Jewish world in no way, shape, or form, speaks anything close to the pronunciation of a semetic language, which Hebrew is.

I did not refer to pronunciation. I referred to uttering words with the wrong letters SHIN instead of SIN and cutting words short or totally not uttering them (during Ashrei and Aleinu).

I also thought he sounded good, then again I didn’t go looking to criticize  every little detail and I actually enjoyed myself, even though I was frozen
Had I been there Davening mincha at the same time (especially if in there cold weather) I would have likely not noticed. I heard it after the fact on YouTube and went back to verify that it wasn't just my ears failing me.

I am accustomed to Davening almost every Shabbos with the most unbelievable Chazzan (as in "no one would believe that you let this guy be Chazzan every Shabbos", and yes - that one too is paid for, just ask @MeirS) so it doesn't really bother me. I just think it's embarrassing for the Chazzan.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 04, 2020, 11:35:57 PM
I did not refer to pronunciation. I referred to uttering words with the wrong letters SHIN instead of SIN and cutting words short or totally not uttering them (during Ashrei and Aleinu).
Had I been there Davening mincha at the same time (especially if in there cold weather) I would have likely not noticed. I heard it after the fact on YouTube and went back to verify that it wasn't just my ears failing me.

I am accustomed to Davening almost every Shabbos with the most unbelievable Chazzan (as in "no one would believe that you let this guy be Chazzan every Shabbos", and yes - that one too is paid for, just as @MeirS) so it doesn't really bother me. I just think it's embarrassing for the Chazzan.
I think it's hard to judge from a recording, especially since if he was bowing or shukling, the mic didn't pick it up.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yelped on January 04, 2020, 11:41:13 PM
The swallowing seemed to come when he bowed.
You mean the mic didn't pick it up at all. Yes I noticed that. Otherwise, I thought it was great. He's human after all.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 04, 2020, 11:43:05 PM
I think it's hard to judge from a recording, especially since if he was bowing or shukling, the mic didn't pick it up.

A recording allows you to go back and check if you heard what you think you heard. It can be slowed down.

Again, I'm not talking about Chazoras HaShatz. I'm talking about Ashrei and Aleinu (which I think is wonderful to have said loud enough to be heard, and that is why I was so surprised at the mistakes).
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 04, 2020, 11:47:08 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/565428fd5c3f01c0b6893cdbb0ccf5ec.png)
Wow beautiful story.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 04, 2020, 11:53:20 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Dovid_Zwiebel

I'm not sure I would attribute stage fright to a person with such a career, though it is possible in such a unique setting.
  Luey/Louis Scheiner davened for the amud as hes an avel for for one of his parents.
  He was beautiful, nothing more and nothing less.

Why didn't they pick a Chazzan for Mincha that can properly say עברי and doesn't swallow words?
See above.
 He did not buy it himself while other people bought it for him.

Was it him davening? Looked like a younger guy.
See above!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 05, 2020, 12:11:52 AM
The swallowing seemed to come when he bowed.
The mike didnt pick up the "Atta" when he bowed.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 05, 2020, 09:14:23 AM
  Luey/Louis Scheiner davened for the amud as hes an avel for for one of his parents.
  He was beautiful, nothing more and nothing less.
See above.
 He did not buy it himself while other people bought it for him.
 See above!

Glad to hear, I was getting scared he couldn't afford it
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Shmobaum on January 05, 2020, 09:18:16 AM
The mike didnt pick up the "Atta" when he bowed.
I noticed that too
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ExGingi on January 05, 2020, 09:45:35 AM
The mike didnt pick up the "Atta" when he bowed.

Possibly. But that's not what I was referring to.

ודילוגו עלי אהבה.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on January 05, 2020, 10:14:44 AM
Y didn’t they sing orech yamim asbyehu
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 05, 2020, 11:11:07 AM
Anyone know R’ Meir Zlotowitz full name to have in mind ?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yeshivabucher on January 05, 2020, 11:20:58 AM
anyone have tickets to the dirshu siyum in EY i can buy?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 05, 2020, 11:40:41 AM
Anyone know R’ Meir Zlotowitz full name to have in mind ?
Meir ben Aaron Hirsch GIYF
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 05, 2020, 11:43:46 AM
Meir ben Aaron Hirsch GIYF
I’m a little surprised the sites promoting learning the first daf for him don’t give the full name.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on January 05, 2020, 12:07:46 PM
I’m a little surprised the sites promoting learning the first daf for him don’t give the full name.
Plus1
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 05, 2020, 03:40:33 PM
Anyone know R’ Meir Zlotowitz full name to have in mind ?
Reb Meir Yackov Ben Aron
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: TimT on January 05, 2020, 03:53:08 PM
Reb Meir Yackov Ben Aron
Meir ben Aaron Hirsch GIYF
?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chinagel on January 05, 2020, 04:01:01 PM
?
Fishel bas Chaya Gimpel
Never trust anything you see online.  -Abraham Lincoln
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 05, 2020, 04:02:53 PM
?
http://hadranalach.com/index.php?action=td_view&id=384
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 05, 2020, 04:06:02 PM
http://hadranalach.com/index.php?action=td_view&id=384
In this case GWMF
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 05, 2020, 08:54:14 PM
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Thank you for signing up to learn the first Daf in memory of my father Harav Meir Yaakov ben Hagoen Harav Ahron ztl.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Jellybelly on January 05, 2020, 11:15:45 PM
Thank you for signing up to learn the first Daf in memory of my father Harav Meir Yaakov ben Hagoen Harav Ahron ztl.
My bad, I took out harav and hagoan harav from the email I got
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: gogreen on January 06, 2020, 10:14:01 AM
Is there a video of Barclays?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: good sam on January 06, 2020, 03:25:58 PM
Is there a video of Barclays?
Why do you need a video of a video?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 06, 2020, 03:27:12 PM
Why do you need a video of a video?
They had a semi-own program.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: good sam on January 06, 2020, 03:29:36 PM
They had a semi-own program.
I was there. You didn't miss anything other than perhaps Rav Elya Ber talking in learning.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 06, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
I was there. You didn't miss anything other than perhaps Rav Elya Ber talking in learning.
They had separate Balei Tfilos there, even that draws a lot of interest here :)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: good sam on January 06, 2020, 03:48:02 PM
They had separate Balei Tfilos there, even that draws a lot of interest here :)
Like I said, you didn't miss anything.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yzj on January 06, 2020, 04:35:49 PM
Here is something I just don’t get:
As a mesayeim, I’m not looking for any recognition- I may make a small private lechaim to celebrate. But how is it that there were multiple mesaymim way up in the upper section (next to me were several mesaymim, a Daf Yomi magid  shiur, and a Rov who finished Shas), while the dancing on the floor was reserved for those who had field seats, many if not most of whom were not mesaymim. It’s nice that field level tickets were given to Roshei Chaburah and understandable that there were premium tickets sold with field access, but how do you have a Simcha without the focus being the baalei simcha?

Imagine a shul making a kiddush this shabbos for its Daf Yomi chabura, and the chabura being seated in a far corner with some kichel while the prominent shul members are seated up front, making lechaims and dancing. It would look somewhat bizarre.

I would have like to have seen some sort of access for the mesaymim at the time of the actual siyum and dancing so they would rightfully be the focus of the siyum, which is after all why 90,000 yidden came together in the first place....
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: cozmohoot on January 06, 2020, 04:37:54 PM
Here is something I just don’t get:
As a mesayeim, I’m not looking for any recognition- I may make a small private lechaim to celebrate. But how is it that there were multiple mesaymim way up in the upper section (next to me were several mesaymim, a Daf Yomi magid  shiur, and a Rov who finished Shas), while the dancing on the floor was reserved for those who had field seats, many if not most of whom were not mesaymim. It’s nice that field level tickets were given to Roshei Chaburah and understandable that there were premium tickets sold with field access, but how do you have a Simcha without the focus being the baalei simcha?

Imagine a shul making a kiddush this shabbos for its Daf Yomi chabura, and the chabura being seated in a far corner with some kichel while the prominent shul members are seated up front, making lechaims and dancing. It would look somewhat bizarre.

I would have like to see some sort of access for the mesaymim at the time of the actual siyum and dancing so they would rightfully be the focus of the siyum, which is after all why 90,000 yidden came together in the first place....
At barclay anyone was able to be on the floor for dancing. I would think having open access to the floor would create a huge mess at metlife and a hazard.
Even barclay is a hazard imho
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 06, 2020, 04:48:55 PM
Here is something I just don’t get:
As a mesayeim, I’m not looking for any recognition- I may make a small private lechaim to celebrate. But how is it that there were multiple mesaymim way up in the upper section (next to me were several mesaymim, a Daf Yomi magid  shiur, and a Rov who finished Shas), while the dancing on the floor was reserved for those who had field seats, many if not most of whom were not mesaymim. It’s nice that field level tickets were given to Roshei Chaburah and understandable that there were premium tickets sold with field access, but how do you have a Simcha without the focus being the baalei simcha?

Imagine a shul making a kiddush this shabbos for its Daf Yomi chabura, and the chabura being seated in a far corner with some kichel while the prominent shul members are seated up front, making lechaims and dancing. It would look somewhat bizarre.

I would have like to have seen some sort of access for the mesaymim at the time of the actual siyum and dancing so they would rightfully be the focus of the siyum, which is after all why 90,000 yidden came together in the first place....
The Rov should have been on the dais, (or could have been if he so wanted, possibly with a few phone calls)
As far as preferential seating for mesaymim, i'm sure it was thought of and the logistics (you also have to include children and families) would have been overwhelming)
Besides as much as the siyum was for mesaymim, it was to give chizuk to those who could be mesaymim... (those who didn't finish and those who started yesterday )
(disclaimer, i was misayim and was on the floor)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 06, 2020, 04:52:49 PM
The Rov should have been on the dais, (or could have been if he so wanted, possibly with a few phone calls)
As far as preferential seating for mesaymim, i'm sure it was thought of and the logistics (you also have to include children and families) would have been overwhelming)
Besides as much as the siyum was for mesaymim, it was to give chizuk to those who could be mesaymim... (those who didn't finish and those who started yesterday )
(disclaimer, i was misayim and was on the floor)
Fundemenally, I agree. I think they could have made x number of field level seats available to those finishing at a discount - maybe at a pay as you wish price with some minimum. It's obvious why they didn't, but I think that it's a fair point.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yzj on January 06, 2020, 04:56:12 PM
I’m not sure they should have just given away field seats for the event. I was thinking more along the lines of prearranged controlled access during the actual siyum/ dancing for the mesaymim.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on January 06, 2020, 04:59:00 PM
I’m not sure they should have just given away field seats for the event. I was thinking more along the lines of prearranged controlled access during the actual siyum/ dancing for the mesaymim.
Anyone can say they were mesayem to get good seats, how are you going to prove it? You want to give all 90K people field level seats?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 06, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Anyone can say they were mesayem to get good seats, how are you going to prove it? You want to give all 90K people field level seats?
Farher...
lol
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Abebee on January 06, 2020, 05:10:03 PM
I’m not sure they should have just given away field seats for the event. I was thinking more along the lines of prearranged controlled access during the actual siyum/ dancing for the mesaymim.
That sounds like a logistic nightmare. Like it was mentioned up thread that in Barclay everyone was invited to dance and it took a while to clear the floor. I can only imgine what it would look like it they let "just the Mesaymim" down for dancing. 
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: aygart on January 06, 2020, 05:13:50 PM
Farher...
lol
zei zol kenen shas
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: shaulyaakov on January 06, 2020, 05:15:05 PM
The reality is that the siyum is a kinnus/fundraiser for Agudah and the siyum is the heichei timtzei.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 06, 2020, 05:15:13 PM
That sounds like a logistic nightmare. Like it was mentioned up thread that in Barclay everyone was invited to dance and it took a while to clear the floor. I can only imgine what it would look like it they let "just the Mesaymim" down for dancing.
they let all the suites people come down, frankly i think most didn;t even bother
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yzj on January 06, 2020, 05:15:35 PM
Anyone can say they were mesayem to get good seats, how are you going to prove it? You want to give all 90K people field level seats?

Request through ones Daf Yomi maggid shiur/ Rov of shul?
How many mesaymim would join the dancing? A couple thousand at most? I don’t think the logistics would be so daunting...
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Dawie on January 06, 2020, 05:15:49 PM
zei zol kenen shas
AMEN!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: davidd75 on January 06, 2020, 05:41:05 PM
anyway to download the complete siyum hashas video to my usb?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzf on January 06, 2020, 06:53:11 PM
anyway to download the complete siyum hashas video to my usb?
https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=67BT-vhDAmU

I added ss to the website
Click download
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 06, 2020, 09:17:59 PM
https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=67BT-vhDAmU

I added ss to the website
Click download
The SS always works? That's cool.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: yitzf on January 06, 2020, 09:29:15 PM
The SS always works? That's cool.
It should
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 06, 2020, 09:32:05 PM
It should
Thanks will try next time and see what happens.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: davidd75 on January 07, 2020, 09:44:23 AM
https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=67BT-vhDAmU

I added ss to the website
Click download
cool what does ss stand for?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Something Fishy on January 09, 2020, 10:56:54 AM
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
@Something Fishy, post your photo DO packing list...

An email I just got:

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While I'm at it, I want to also personally thank you for last week's Siyum Hashas. I know you must be wondering what I'm at right now, but I went through your Iceland prep guide, and geared myself and my two little boys (ages 6 and 8) based upon your recommendations in that guide. To say that it really "made" the Siyum is an understatement! I'm still rubbing my eyes in shock at how everyone around me was freezing to death, constantly running into the warming rooms, and returning with coffees etc., while my kids and I just sat there calmly, enjoying every minute of the event. I did not use gloves, nor did I touch the hand and foot warmers I brought along for myself. So on behalf my boys and myself, thank you for that as well!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: stooges44 on January 09, 2020, 11:06:01 AM
An email I just got:

Soooo how does one obtain your Iceland prep guide?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: mochjas on January 09, 2020, 11:08:18 AM
Soooo how does one obtain your Iceland prep guide?
Sign up for his program
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Something Fishy on January 09, 2020, 11:08:28 AM
Soooo how does one obtain your Iceland prep guide?

https://www.kosherhorizons.com/iceland-aurora-chase
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: henche on January 09, 2020, 12:12:53 PM
An email I just got:

I don't care how bundled he was, he didn't use gloves or warmers?

I was perfectly warm, in snow pants, snow boots, heavy coat, warm hat, and of course hand warmers.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: NTorch on January 09, 2020, 01:52:43 PM
(http://)
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: ltttc on January 09, 2020, 01:56:17 PM
(http://)
Thanks for sharing!! Looking forward to sharing with my kids, especially after all those thank you's they've given! I love such positive posts and wish we had more of these!!
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 09, 2020, 02:13:55 PM
https://vosizneias.com/2020/01/09/british-chief-rabbi-disinvited-from-london-event-marking-completion-of-talmud-study-cycle/

This shows how it's all about agudah and not siyum hashas.

Why don't they just call it agudah convention?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: Moshe123 on January 09, 2020, 02:18:04 PM
https://vosizneias.com/2020/01/09/british-chief-rabbi-disinvited-from-london-event-marking-completion-of-talmud-study-cycle/

This shows how it's all about agudah and not siyum hashas.

Why don't they just call it agudah convention?

You mean to say it wasn't a modox LGBT-deviants-supporting event.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chevron on January 09, 2020, 02:24:15 PM
You mean to say it wasn't a modox LGBT-deviants-supporting event.

Is that your definition of the chief rabbi of England ?

Of course they'll say "naaseh venishma omrim b'yachad"

Till they differ with you on hashkafa
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: EliJelly on January 09, 2020, 03:40:52 PM
https://vosizneias.com/2020/01/09/british-chief-rabbi-disinvited-from-london-event-marking-completion-of-talmud-study-cycle/

This shows how it's all about agudah and not siyum hashas.

Why don't they just call it agudah convention?
I'm quoting the first comment of that site.

"It doesn’t make sense to have someone who publicly has said rulings against the Torah to now come to publicly honor the Torah"
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: chff on January 09, 2020, 04:45:56 PM
anyway to download the complete siyum hashas video to my usb?


I added ss to the website
Click download

The SS always works? That's cool.

See this thread (you can also change be to 10 - or use a software)
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=112003.0

Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: myi on January 10, 2020, 02:19:51 AM
See this thread (you can also change be to 10 - or use a software)
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=112003.0
that's cool will try it out next time I need to download a YouTube link.
   Love learning new tips and tricks.
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: moko on January 12, 2020, 02:27:28 PM
Is there a video of Barclays?
any update?
Title: Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
Post by: thaber on January 12, 2020, 04:43:17 PM
In case anyone wants to find specific parts of the Metlife stream, here's an index. If someone wants to get fancy they can add direct links.

0:00:45 - Daf Yomi Around the World (Video)
0:03:05 - Mincha (?)
0:25:50 - Bruchim Haboim (R' Chaim Dovid Zwibel)
0:29:10 - Tehillim and Mi Sheberach (Rabbi Shlomo Mandel)
0:34:00 - Divrei Psicha (Rabbi Aryeh Malkiel Kotler)
0:45:25 - Siyum Moment #1 (Rabbi Leibish Lish)
0:48:40 - Divrei Brocha (Rebbi Yaakov Perlow)
1:00:35 - Heroes of the Daf (Video)
1:05:40 - Featured Address (Rabbi Yissocher Frand)
1:26:40 - You Too Can Become Great (Video - Masmidei Hasiyum)
1:31:35 - Siyum Mishnayos (Rabbi Nosson Sherman)
1:37:50 - Hadran (Rabbi Chaim Benoliel)
1:40:10 - Kaddish (Zafir?)
1:42:00 - Singing/Dancing
1:52:30 - Ki Heim Chayeinu (Video - Chavrei Hasiyum)
1:56:50 - Featured Address (Rabbi Aharon Schiff)
2:15:15 - Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky (Video)
2:18:00 - Letter from R' Chaim (Rabbi Reuven Feinstein)
2:21:55 - Siyum Moment #2 (Rabbi Shlomo Farhi)
2:25:50 - What One Man Can Accomplish (Video - R' Meir Zlotowitz zt"l)
2:28:00 - DP Camp Gemara (Video) and Presentaion
2:31:30 - Siyum Hashas and Hadran (Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky)
2:41:40 - Kaddish (Schottenstein)
2:43:35 - Singing/Dancing
3:04:05 - The Impact of the Daf (Video - Chassanei Hashas)
3:08:15 - Haschalas Hashas (Rabbi Aharon Feldman)
3:21:10 - Siyum Moment #3 (Rabbi Yoel Gold)
3:25:40 - Featured Address (Rabbi Uren Reich)
3:46:20 - Zichor Yemos Olam (Video)
3:52:40 - Ani Maamin
3:59:10 - Kel Malei (Helfgott)
4:06:25 - Kaddish (Schoenberger)
4:08:10 - Kabbalas Ol Malchus Shamayim/Sheimos (Novominsker Rebbe/Sanz Klausenberger Rebber
4:12:00 - Maariv (Rabbi Eliezer Ginsburg)
4:33:50 - Kaddish (?)
4:35:35 - Enhance Your Learning (Video)


Very helpful. Thanks