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Title: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Monseyyid5 on September 12, 2019, 11:56:52 AM
The American Dream Mall is set to open on Oct 25th in the Meadowlands NJ. According to their website there will be a Kosher food court with 6 Kosher restaurants. Anyone has more info on this.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: grodnoking on September 12, 2019, 12:13:34 PM
The American Dream Mall is set to open on Oct 25th in the Meadowlands NJ. According to their website there will be a Kosher food court with 6 Kosher restaurants. Anyone has more info on this.
Restaurants wont open for awhile. They want to have six but it might not happen. There where rumors about a non kosher brand having a kosher store, but as of now they are just rumors.
AFAIK Edmonton has a kosher restaurant that looses money that is kept open by the malls owners, so even if this idea doesn't make money maybe itll still have at lease one kosher restaurant.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Arejay on September 12, 2019, 12:28:06 PM
The owners are pushing hard for the kosher section so there is a good chance it should work out
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: mercaz1 on September 12, 2019, 04:23:55 PM
I wonder if they will some type of succah as well
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: skyguy918 on September 12, 2019, 04:28:43 PM
Restaurants wont open for awhile. They want to have six but it might not happen. There where rumors about a non kosher brand having a kosher store, but as of now they are just rumors.
AFAIK Edmonton has a kosher restaurant that looses money that is kept open by the malls owners, so even if this idea doesn't make money maybe itll still have at lease one kosher restaurant.
And Minneapolis too, according to PBaruch's TR.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: tmendy226 on September 12, 2019, 10:46:17 PM
Minneapolis is a veggie place that is not advertised kosher and is targeting the general clientele. Can be a good business model
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Jellybelly on September 13, 2019, 12:06:29 AM
Minneapolis is a veggie place that is not advertised kosher and is targeting the general clientele. Can be a good business model

A mall in  Minneapolis probably doesn’t have enough kosher eating customers to make it worthwhile to have a regular kosher restaurant, but this mall shouldn’t have that problem
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: tzifanya54 on September 13, 2019, 02:04:33 AM
AFAIK Edmonton has a kosher restaurant that looses money that is kept open by the malls owners, so even if this idea doesn't make money maybe itll still have at lease one kosher restaurant.
This is true, but its a small little pizza place (also had some non jews eating there when we were there). I cant imagine any mall supporting 6 kosher places.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Definitions on November 06, 2019, 08:33:47 PM
Anybody visited this place yet?
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: KSMH on November 06, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
Anybody visited this place yet?
When they start offering free parking.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Joel2 on November 06, 2019, 09:07:18 PM
When they start offering free parking.
-1 I personally just asked someone who was there this Sunday it was completely free.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: KSMH on November 06, 2019, 09:21:03 PM
I guess ill visit next time I pass
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: MosheD on November 06, 2019, 09:55:22 PM
When they start offering free parking.
parking is free 1st half hour
Source (https://www.nj.com/bergen/2019/10/american-dream-parking-rates-what-it-will-cost-to-park-at-nj-mega-mall.html)
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: KSMH on November 06, 2019, 10:23:47 PM
parking is free 1st half hour
Source (https://www.nj.com/bergen/2019/10/american-dream-parking-rates-what-it-will-cost-to-park-at-nj-mega-mall.html)
Thought so, not enough time for a even short walkthrough.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Luvisrael on November 06, 2019, 10:29:15 PM
The American Dream Mall is set to open on Oct 25th in the Meadowlands NJ. According to their website there will be a Kosher food court with 6 Kosher restaurants. Anyone has more info on this.
i heard different sections are opening in a few phases
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: YitzyS on November 07, 2019, 12:23:23 AM
Edmonton and Minneapolis have just a smattering of Jews (no offence intended!) compared to the crowds that can potentially be pulled from surrounding Jewish communities. A Kosher food court is a novel idea for most kosher shoppers, and it can serve to draw customers from cities like Brooklyn, Lakewood, and Monsey.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: yuneeq on November 07, 2019, 01:43:00 AM
parking is free 1st half hour
Source (https://www.nj.com/bergen/2019/10/american-dream-parking-rates-what-it-will-cost-to-park-at-nj-mega-mall.html)

I was there last week and it was free parking no limit. Obviously won’t last once everything starts to open.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: ad120 on November 11, 2019, 12:59:08 AM
Why isn't this mall subject to the Bergen County Sunday Blue Laws?
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: sams on November 11, 2019, 01:06:36 AM
Why isn't this mall subject to the Bergen County Sunday Blue Laws?
It is ,amusement parks I doubt are
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: grodnoking on November 11, 2019, 01:10:39 AM
Why isn't this mall subject to the Bergen County Sunday Blue Laws?
It is. Retail is closed on sunday.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Colemanres on November 11, 2019, 10:09:56 AM
That's good. I've heard somewhere that it's open even on Sundays. A lot of misinformation floating around...
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: yuneeq on November 11, 2019, 08:54:03 PM
That's good. I've heard somewhere that it's open even on Sundays. A lot of misinformation floating around...

There's plenty of articles in the press about American Dream/Blue Laws.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: pointer on December 14, 2019, 07:42:45 PM
Indoor skiing all year round!!
https://www.bigsnowamericandream.com/
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: dealfinder11 on December 16, 2019, 10:02:01 AM
Chickies advertising they are opening in American Dream
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: shopfdder on December 17, 2019, 10:35:24 AM
That's good. I've heard somewhere that it's open even on Sundays. A lot of misinformation floating around...

"Essential services" like food and gas stations are allowed to be open. Retail is ALLOWED to be open, they just face a fine. Morris county also used to have blue laws and the stores made so much money they just paid the fine and eventually they overturned the law.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: shopfdder on December 17, 2019, 11:01:42 AM
Interesting article on the history of blue laws in NJ if anyone is interested https://www.nj.com/bergen/2012/11/by_the_numbers_a_brief_history_of_blue_laws_in_bergen_county.html

And an article that mentions the NJ version of the American dream (a mall of course) https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2017/06/23/11-things-you-might-not-know-bergen-countys-blue-laws/420512001/
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: hvaces42 on December 17, 2019, 03:54:48 PM
Indoor skiing all year round!!
https://www.bigsnowamericandream.com/
Kids were there sunday. Their website is a mess. They dont tell you that you must order packages if you arent bringing your own skis or snowboard. The staff is undertrained and underqualified on the actual slopes. They were told specific ski sizes and they just gave out whatever they felt like giving out. Need the kinks worked out.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: rs242 on January 17, 2020, 02:14:00 PM
Does anyone know if I can buy tickets at the gate for Nickelodeon park? For a Sunday ...
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: zevi on January 17, 2020, 02:27:29 PM
Does anyone know if I can buy tickets at the gate for Nickelodeon park? For a Sunday ...
Yes
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: ltttc on January 17, 2020, 02:33:47 PM
Yes
Yup. Was actually just there. Best bang for your buck is if you go 2 hrs before closing.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: ltttc on January 17, 2020, 02:36:14 PM
parking is free 1st half hour
Source (https://www.nj.com/bergen/2019/10/american-dream-parking-rates-what-it-will-cost-to-park-at-nj-mega-mall.html)
For now there's free parking and no time limits. (Just make sure to enter the guest parking and not the parking for construction crew members)
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: EliJelly on January 17, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
Best bang for your buck is if you go 2 hrs before closing.
Why?
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: ltttc on January 17, 2020, 03:49:34 PM
Why?
It's $34.99 as opposed to $59.99
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: mercaz1 on January 20, 2020, 12:10:42 PM
how crowded has the mall been these last few weeks especially on a Sunday?
is it Disney -esque or is it chol hamoed crowded?
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: rs242 on January 20, 2020, 12:21:47 PM
how crowded has the mall been these last few weeks especially on a Sunday?
is it Disney -esque or is it chol hamoed crowded?
I was there yesterday, lines where long. I only went to Nickelodeon but maybe 30 min wait for each ride.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: ltttc on January 20, 2020, 12:26:24 PM
I was there yesterday, lines where long. I only went to Nickelodeon but maybe 30 min wait for each ride.
I guess that's on Sunday. I was there during the week and it was quite empty.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: avromie7 on January 20, 2020, 12:39:04 PM
"Essential services" like food and gas stations are allowed to be open. Retail is ALLOWED to be open, they just face a fine. Morris county also used to have blue laws and the stores made so much money they just paid the fine and eventually they overturned the law.
Quote
Fourth offense and subsequent offenses – fine between $2000 and $5000 and/or 30 days to six months in jail
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: mercaz1 on January 20, 2020, 02:09:11 PM
I was there yesterday, lines where long. I only went to Nickelodeon but maybe 30 min wait for each ride.

what about the skiing or the other attractions in the mall
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: ltttc on January 20, 2020, 03:33:06 PM
what about the skiing or the other attractions in the mall
There were no lines at skiing, the ice skating rink had about 3 people skating, the water park isn't open. There isn't anything else to do -the only store that's open is "It's Sugar".
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Naftuli19 on January 20, 2020, 03:57:13 PM
That's good. I've heard somewhere that it's open even on Sundays. A lot of misinformation floating around...
so far retail will b closed on sundays
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: grodnoking on January 25, 2020, 07:22:09 PM


There were no lines at skiing, the ice skating rink had about 3 people skating, the water park isn't open. There isn't anything else to do -the only store that's open is "It's Sugar".

Really? Nothings open besides Its Sugar?
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Naftuli19 on January 27, 2020, 10:50:31 AM

Really? Nothings open besides Its Sugar?
Retail is "Suppose" to start opening in march
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: ltttc on January 28, 2020, 11:12:49 PM

Really? Nothings open besides Its Sugar?
Nopes. Bathroom was the best free attraction actually
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Yammer on January 28, 2020, 11:34:34 PM

Really? Nothings open besides Its Sugar?
Was wondering if they are considered entertainment and are allowed to be open on Sunday....
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Abebee on January 29, 2020, 10:28:40 AM
Was wondering if they are considered entertainment and are allowed to be open on Sunday....
Food can be open on Sunday, they probably fall under the dinning category.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: S209 on January 29, 2020, 06:03:12 PM
The owners are pushing hard for the kosher section so there is a good chance it should work out
Yes they subsidize the money-losing pizza shop in West Edmonton Mall so that the local community can have a kosher restaurant- some of the Ghermazian family still lives there and they basically support the whole community anyway.

Whenever I was there, though, there were non Jews eating there, so maybe they actually make money? Except Pesach when they were closed obviously.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Naftuli19 on January 29, 2020, 08:17:55 PM
Yes they subsidize the money-losing pizza shop in West Edmonton Mall so that the local community can have a kosher restaurant- some of the Ghermazian family still lives there and they basically support the whole community anyway.

Whenever I was there, though, there were non Jews eating there, so maybe they actually make money? Except Pesach when they were closed obviously.
Kosher food is not going to b in the reg food court
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: yudamaan on February 02, 2020, 11:59:35 AM
Has anyone been to its sugar, any kosher candy there?
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: zevi on February 02, 2020, 12:19:46 PM
Has anyone been to its sugar, any kosher candy there?
Yes they have the regular Hershey’s, jolly rancher, jelly belly....
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: yudamaan on February 02, 2020, 01:44:16 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Dave321 on February 02, 2020, 03:01:45 PM
tachlis, when are they going to be overturning the blue laws? hard to believe they are spending this much on the mall and having shopping closed on sundays long term.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: aygart on February 02, 2020, 05:22:49 PM
The food stand at the park days to ask for the kosher menu. What is the story with that.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: yuneeq on February 02, 2020, 06:13:09 PM
tachlis, when are they going to be overturning the blue laws? hard to believe they are spending this much on the mall and having shopping closed on sundays long term.

Won’t be happening anytime soon but they’re not relying on it and it’s not as big an issue as you might think.

https://www.nj.com/news/erry-2018/12/8af99d90ec6569/no-sunday-shopping-at-the-amer.html
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: Abebee on February 03, 2020, 09:34:01 AM
Won’t be happening anytime soon but they’re not relying on it and it’s not as big an issue as you might think.

https://www.nj.com/news/erry-2018/12/8af99d90ec6569/no-sunday-shopping-at-the-amer.html
It might actually benefit them by forcing people to come shopping midweek.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: aygart on February 03, 2020, 10:07:46 AM
The food stand at the park days to ask for the kosher menu. What is the story with that.
Seems it is just that they have a picture of the hot pretzel and popcorn box showing that the box in the picture has a hechsher but nobody checking on the actual stand at all.
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: aygart on February 03, 2020, 10:08:00 AM
It might actually benefit them by forcing people to come shopping midweek.
How?
Title: Re: American Dream Mall Kosher
Post by: yuneeq on February 03, 2020, 11:51:34 AM
It might actually benefit them by forcing people to come shopping midweek.

The people in that area are used to shopping 6 days a week as the article explains. And despite the 6 day shopping period, it still has the highest retail spending demographic in it's vicinity. Also, Saturday is the biggest day of the week for shopping, while Friday is not far behind.