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Title: Kara and Nate
Post by: Luvisrael on November 21, 2019, 03:40:37 PM
Anyone here follow them?
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: sam28 on November 23, 2019, 11:35:25 PM
yes for the last 2 years I love them
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Post by: davidrotts63 on November 30, 2019, 12:28:19 PM
@rollingstone
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Kobe Bryant on December 01, 2019, 12:26:35 AM
Been following them for a couple of years.
They are about to complete the 100 country goal!
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Post by: Luvisrael on December 01, 2019, 10:05:43 PM
Yup. Thought people here would find their Israel trip cool
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Post by: sillypainter on December 01, 2019, 10:15:28 PM
And they (he) discovered that there are ONLY 14,000 Jews in the world. Couldn't hold my laughs back when he said it.
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Post by: Luvisrael on December 01, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
And they (he) discovered that there are ONLY 14,000 Jews in the world. Couldn't hold my laughs back when he said it.
I know but itís true that statistically speaking,  Judaism isnít one of the largest religions.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Buruch on December 03, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
Pretty sure that was a slip of the tongue. I was actually surprised that they got the kosel/hard habayis fairly accurate. Most Jewish sources don't get that correct  ::)
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Luvisrael on December 03, 2019, 08:26:26 AM
Looks like they stayed in a hotel right off the kosel? (Not litov)
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Post by: Dawie on January 27, 2020, 11:50:20 AM
so how much are you paying to watch country 100
poll time
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Post by: jmz on January 27, 2020, 11:58:41 AM
so how much are you paying to watch country 100
poll time
Thought it was for a charity or something...
have you purchased it yet?
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Dawie on January 27, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Thought it was for a charity or something...
have you purchased it yet?

they are the charity
nope
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: jmz on January 27, 2020, 12:02:26 PM
they are the charity
nope
lol. was thinking they probably need some money for a down payment on a house now.
more curious just to know which country it was.
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Post by: efi on January 27, 2020, 04:48:43 PM
lol. was thinking they probably need some money for a down payment on a house now.
more curious just to know which country it was.
Fiji
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Dawie on January 28, 2020, 10:23:45 AM
Fiji
and now the full video is up on youtube
so how much are you paying to watch country 100
poll time
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Post by: Kobe Bryant on January 28, 2020, 08:28:10 PM
and now the full video is up on youtube
Yup, they posted how they made a mistake in how they rolled it out.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Luvisrael on January 28, 2020, 08:31:40 PM
Yup, they posted how they made a mistake in how they rolled it out.
I thought u died :o
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Kobe Bryant on June 21, 2020, 12:14:36 PM
Kara & Nate take to van life to explore the USA
Title: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: SSLPhD on October 21, 2020, 01:29:49 PM
For those that watch Kara and Nate, they were reported and fined for filming commercially in national parks. :( I was looking forward to their national park travels.
Title: Re: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: Kobe Bryant on October 21, 2020, 02:42:46 PM
For those that watch Kara and Nate, they were reported and fined for filming commercially in national parks. :( I was looking forward to their national park travels.
They got banned from filming without a permit, because of their video on Longs Peak in Rocky Mountain National Park.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Kobe Bryant on October 21, 2020, 02:45:43 PM
Title: Re: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: Kobe Bryant on October 21, 2020, 02:46:56 PM
They got banned from filming without a permit, because of their video on Longs Peak in Rocky Mountain National Park.
Title: Re: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: KSMH on October 21, 2020, 03:15:20 PM
For those that watch Kara and Nate, they were reported and fined for filming commercially in national parks. :( I was looking forward to their national park travels.
Is what they do considered commercial?
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2020, 03:44:49 PM

6:33-13:38
Ouch. Terrible there's so many internet haters and trolls.
Title: Re: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: SSLPhD on October 21, 2020, 04:20:24 PM
Is what they do considered commercial?
Apparently so. They said, "they used our incoming expense reports... to show that we were making money from our channel." I'm not sure what the threshold is for YouTube earnings for it to be considered commercial. 
Title: Re: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: JuryDuty on October 21, 2020, 04:21:31 PM
Apparently so. They said, "they used our incoming expense reports... to show that we were making money from our channel." I'm not sure what the threshold is for YouTube earnings for it to be considered commercial.

Certainly opens the door for instagram, youtube accounts...
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Post by: Dan on October 21, 2020, 04:43:10 PM
Apparently so. They said, "they used our incoming expense reports... to show that we were making money from our channel." I'm not sure what the threshold is for YouTube earnings for it to be considered commercial. 
Why do they publish those?
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: SSLPhD on October 21, 2020, 04:50:36 PM
Why do they publish those?
From https://karaandnate.com/income-reports/

"Follow us on our journey to making our lifestyle of full-time travel financially sustainable!"

I'm guessing they realize now that it wasn't a great decision.
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Post by: yuneeq on October 21, 2020, 05:02:04 PM
Why do they publish those?

It's part of the appeal
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Post by: skyguy918 on October 21, 2020, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/commercial-use-authorizations.htm#:~:text=A%20CUA%20is%20required%20if,gain%2C%20benefit%2C%20or%20profit.
A CUA is required if you provide any goods, activities, services, agreements, or other function for members, clients, or the public that: take place at least in part on lands managed by the National Park Service, use park resources, and. result in compensation, monetary gain, benefit, or profit

I can't imagine this is generally enforced for situations like vloggers though.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Dawie on October 22, 2020, 10:20:48 AM
and the same people reported them to the FAA so no drone flying... because commercial drone shots need a license
if it applies to them why wouldn't apply to Fishy, Dan and every youtuber
seems like a major overreach by the govt
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: yuneeq on October 22, 2020, 11:07:42 AM
and the same people reported them to the FAA so no drone flying... because commercial drone shots need a license
if it applies to them why wouldn't apply to Fishy, Dan and every youtuber
seems like a major overreach by the govt

Don't think it's overreach, it's just enforcement of laws that were crafted in a different era and no longer make sense. Once they are informed of the violation they need to enforce, but the laws gotta change fast.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: skyguy918 on October 22, 2020, 11:21:02 AM
Don't think it's overreach, it's just enforcement of laws that were crafted in a different era and no longer make sense. Once they are informed of the violation they need to enforce, but the laws gotta change fast.
If you mean that they shouldn't need to have any sort of CUA or pay anything, I'm not sure I agree. They themselves said it's not about the money, but about the process stifling their ability to effectively make videos in NP's. So maybe the process needs to change.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: yuneeq on October 22, 2020, 11:27:25 AM
If you mean that they shouldn't need to have any sort of CUA or pay anything, I'm not sure I agree. They themselves said it's not about the money, but about the process stifling their ability to effectively make videos in NP's. So maybe the process needs to change.

Agree
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Kobe Bryant on November 04, 2020, 06:54:37 PM
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Dawie on November 04, 2020, 07:41:15 PM
clearly they have Fishy's rovs psak to cover the wheels for shabbos
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: SSLPhD on November 04, 2020, 07:56:32 PM

"Back in 2020, we ... [groan] are still in 2020."
LOL.
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Post by: Luvisrael on November 04, 2020, 08:44:15 PM
clearly they have Fishy's rovs psak to cover the wheels for shabbos
blech type?
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Post by: Dawie on November 05, 2020, 09:27:08 AM
blech type?
see 2:14
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Post by: whacked1 on December 06, 2020, 11:42:34 AM
Their new website is epitome ddf....

atlas.co
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Post by: Kobe Bryant on January 06, 2021, 09:19:53 AM

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Post by: Kobe Bryant on January 18, 2021, 09:05:10 PM
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Post by: justmeha on January 18, 2021, 10:00:51 PM

i feel like this type of thing (airplane laser-tag) was mentioned here before... @TimT
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Metro on January 20, 2021, 06:51:20 AM
Did anyone sign up to there website faredrop.com? Is it worth anything?
Title: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: SSLPhD on January 28, 2021, 07:21:13 PM
For those that watch Kara and Nate, they were reported and fined for filming commercially in national parks. :( I was looking forward to their national park travels.
Win for them: "A federal judge has struck down as unconstitutional the National Park Service's practice of charging commercial filmmakers who want to shoot in the National Park System, ruling it is a protected activity under the First Amendment."

https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2021/01/judge-commercial-filmmakers-dont-need-permits-national-parks

(Cross-posted)
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: AsherO on February 02, 2021, 07:13:36 AM
Win for them: "A federal judge has struck down as unconstitutional the National Park Service's practice of charging commercial filmmakers who want to shoot in the National Park System, ruling it is a protected activity under the First Amendment."

https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2021/01/judge-commercial-filmmakers-dont-need-permits-national-parks

(Cross-posted)

Thatís crazy. They probably leave a mess for the authorities to clean up behind them, least they could do is pay for it.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Kobe Bryant on February 02, 2021, 07:25:03 AM
Thatís crazy. They probably leave a mess for the authorities to clean up behind them, least they could do is pay for it.
What is crazy?
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: SSLPhD on February 02, 2021, 10:09:24 AM
Thatís crazy. They probably leave a mess for the authorities to clean up behind them, least they could do is pay for it.
Are you referring specifically to Kara and Nate?  Because I also posted it in the National Parks thread, where your comment would have made more sense.

Check out this video from their trip to Vietnam, where they are removing other people's garbage from the water.  Starts shortly after the 5-minute mark.  Tznius warning.

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Post by: avromie7 on February 02, 2021, 11:15:56 AM
Thatís crazy. They probably leave a mess for the authorities to clean up behind them, least they could do is pay for it.
As you can see in this article as well as the one I quoted below, the permit and fee have nothing to do with the damage that may be done, but is solely based on whether or not it's commercial. If you watched Kara and Nate's video about it you would see the ridiculous amount of work they would need to put in only because they make money from their YouTube channel.
 
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"For example, a 'non-commercial' filming production carried out by a non-profit organization or a news crew would escape the reach of (the) permitting regime, even if those groups used heavy filming equipment that damaged federal land," she wrote.

The permitting language carried no differentiation between large film crews with heavy equipment and small crews with no heavy equipment; Price used a single tripod with a camera and no more than four people.

In challenging the permitting requirement, Price pointed out that it does not apply to non-commercial filming, nor does it apply to news organizations. The absurdity of differentiating on the basis of whether a production was commercial didn't escape Judge Killar-Kotelly.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/national-park-service-cant-require-permits-and-fees-for-commercial-filming-judge-rules (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/national-park-service-cant-require-permits-and-fees-for-commercial-filming-judge-rules)

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She writes, "In issuing this injunction, the Court observes that a more targeted permitting regime for commercial filming, which is more closely connected to the threat posed by large groups and heavy filming equipment, may pass constitutional muster in the future."
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Post by: elazarmn on February 02, 2021, 12:00:06 PM
Let me just get this straight...they get paid to take trip for their blog?
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Post by: whacked1 on February 02, 2021, 12:21:38 PM
Let me just get this straight...they get paid to take trip for their blog?
Same as every "influencer". The more views, clicks, subscribers you have the more you get compensated (whether via sponsorships, free trips, youtube payments, etc) 
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: elazarmn on February 02, 2021, 12:29:10 PM
Same as every "influencer". The more views, clicks, subscribers you have the more you get compensated (whether via sponsorships, free trips, youtube payments, etc) 

Right but on their last income report they made $123,000. In profit.

One of a kind job they got going
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Dan on February 02, 2021, 12:43:45 PM
Right but on their last income report they made $123,000. In profit.

One of a kind job they got going
Helps to be good looking and not have kids...
Is their last report from 2019 Q3? Would be interesting to see what 2020 looked like.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: elazarmn on February 02, 2021, 02:09:42 PM
Helps to be good looking and not have kids...
Is their last report from 2019 Q3? Would be interesting to see what 2020 looked like.

Whats interesting is, nate himself (and his friend benji) will give you a personal credit card evaluation. With a side of travel hacking and kara teaches video editing. Looks like they make some money from that. Could be that was more of a focus
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Dawie on February 02, 2021, 02:58:14 PM
Right but on their last income report they made $123,000. In profit.

One of a kind job they got going
the catch is you have to keep coming up with stuff to keep it interesting and post weekly
its a huge strain
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: normathej on February 03, 2021, 01:23:23 PM
Anybody here follow @thebucketlistfamily?  They probably make $123k per post... and they have three kids!
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Post by: avromie7 on February 03, 2021, 01:35:45 PM
Anybody here follow @thebucketlistfamily?  They probably make $123k per post... and they have three kids!
Why do you think they make more that KaraandNate with barely half the subscribers and less than half the total view count?
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Post by: Joel on February 03, 2021, 01:43:57 PM
Anybody here follow @thebucketlistfamily?  They probably make $123k per post... and they have three kids!
IIRC he isn't here for the money he sold some app a while ago for millions
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: normathej on February 03, 2021, 01:50:17 PM
Why do you think they make more that KaraandNate with barely half the subscribers and less than half the total view count?

On Instagram, they have 2.5m followers vs. 466k for Kara and Nate.  I'm not much of a youtube user and see the prior references are to that.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: normathej on February 03, 2021, 01:51:05 PM
IIRC he isn't here for the money he sold some app a while ago for millions

He's not doing sponsored content for free, for sure.  But true that he does not need the money.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: skyguy918 on February 03, 2021, 02:32:21 PM
Anybody here follow @thebucketlistfamily?  They probably make $123k per post... and they have three kids!
On Instagram, they have 2.5m followers vs. 466k for Kara and Nate.  I'm not much of a youtube user and see the prior references are to that.
Instagram does not pay content creators. Youtube does. Twitch does. The big names that are making real money from IG and some of the others that don't pay users are doing so via brands paying them to promote things and by selling things (either their own things, or as affiliates).
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Post by: normathej on February 03, 2021, 02:45:31 PM
Instagram does not pay content creators. Youtube does. Twitch does. The big names that are making real money from IG and some of the others that don't pay users by brands paying them to promote things and by selling things (either their own things, or as affiliates).

Fair point, they are making money on sponsored content.
Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Kobe Bryant on April 04, 2021, 09:17:52 PM
Title: Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Post by: Kobe Bryant on April 07, 2021, 11:46:53 AM
Win for them: "A federal judge has struck down as unconstitutional the National Park Service's practice of charging commercial filmmakers who want to shoot in the National Park System, ruling it is a protected activity under the First Amendment."

https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2021/01/judge-commercial-filmmakers-dont-need-permits-national-parks


Title: Re: Kara and Nate
Post by: Kobe Bryant on April 19, 2021, 01:24:23 PM