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Title: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Charles The Govenor on August 17, 2009, 01:56:34 AM
If i take a flight from MKE and it stops in ORD wth united can I just print my boarding passes online and just hop on to the flight in ORD?
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2009, 06:59:53 AM
No, if you miss a leg the rest of the itinerary will get automatically canceled.
You can however fly MKE-ORD-XXX-ORD and skip ORD-MKE if you have no checked luggage.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Charles The Govenor on August 17, 2009, 07:32:37 PM
Oh ok ty.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: al613 on August 24, 2009, 10:42:50 PM
If i take a flight from MKE and it stops in ORD wth united can I just print my boarding passes online and just hop on to the flight in ORD?

2 weeks ago i did this exactly at ORD with ticket MKE-ORD-XXX. I have approched the agent and asked him to change my ticket, since I'm already at ORD. I have mentioned to agent that I'm ready to go  to MKE if he does not change it and he changed for free.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Charles The Govenor on August 25, 2009, 02:13:24 AM
Oh nice but it seems risky.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on August 28, 2009, 10:55:01 AM
 The basic Rule is no missing any segment except for the last 1, otherwise once you dont fly 1 flight every other flight will be cancelled out

this is Not a UAL issue but 1 that every Carrier adheres to
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: mancunian on September 07, 2009, 07:12:56 PM
ok im about to buy a ticket on delta from burbank with a stop in salt lake city, then lax, then direct to jfk - you think i should just show up at lax?

i guess i could get there a bit early...
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Charles The Govenor on September 07, 2009, 08:45:04 PM
What does it hurt to try?
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Avid Reader on September 08, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
Oh nice but it seems risky.

What does it hurt to try?

Huh?
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 08, 2009, 02:36:32 PM
If you get a paper ticket, it should work.

(if you cannot get paper ticket, try calling a middle east travel agent (not israel), they will often still have paper)
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: mancunian on October 13, 2009, 09:08:50 PM
What does it hurt to try?

Well...

Just about seven hours extra flying.

I drove to lax in the morning, they said nothing to talk about, the ticket would have to be reissued. Burbank was worse, there was no one to talk to. After I checked myself in by the kiosk a from delta was passing by and asked if i checked in ok, i said ya but not really... she was in a rush. Then at the gate i noticed delta's newest way of saving money: the person who holds the red flashlights to direct the plane also mans the gate. If she would have given me the time of day the plane probably would have taken a wrong turn, and i might have missed my connection in lax, so i didnt want to take any risks (and neither did she). Basically, i dont think ill be trying that again. (but i did get like 1,000 extra miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I think i should have just given someone $50 to take the first two legs.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Charles The Govenor on October 13, 2009, 09:26:40 PM
Did you fly united or delta?
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on October 14, 2009, 10:24:29 AM
Well...

Just about seven hours extra flying.

I drove to lax in the morning, they said nothing to talk about, the ticket would have to be reissued. Burbank was worse, there was no one to talk to. After I checked myself in by the kiosk a from delta was passing by and asked if i checked in ok, i said ya but not really... she was in a rush. Then at the gate i noticed delta's newest way of saving money: the person who holds the red flashlights to direct the plane also mans the gate. If she would have given me the time of day the plane probably would have taken a wrong turn, and i might have missed my connection in lax, so i didnt want to take any risks (and neither did she). Basically, i dont think ill be trying that again. (but i did get like 1,000 extra miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I think i should have just given someone $50 to take the first two legs.

 20 yrs ago that would have worked, but I havent figured out how to get Adam Katz to fly as Avi Cohen. Now if  someone who looks like you and give them your pic ID then it might work.

Otherwise save yourself alot of trouble and simply purchase a tkt that you yourself are willing to fly.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on October 14, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
If you get a paper ticket, it should work.

(if you cannot get paper ticket, try calling a middle east travel agent (not israel), they will often still have paper)

 What good will it help if its a paper tkt, (I remember Never flying w/o a Red Pencil and Pen yrs ago, but sadly those days are long gone).

 A person might get lucky on the out bound but even that most likely will be picked up by the computer that the 1st leg wasnt flown. But lets say they are lucky and get away with it, when they want to fly back most likely the computer would have cancelled out the res for the 1st leg not having been flown. So it might work if a r/t tkt is cheaper then a 1 way and all a person wants is to fly 1 way, otherwise the person might end up having to purchase a full fare Y tkt as a 1 way to get back home
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2009, 12:40:14 PM
20 yrs ago that would have worked, but I havent figured out how to get Adam Katz to fly as Avi Cohen. Now if  someone who looks like you and give them your pic ID then it might work.
I've haven't had to show pic ID at the gate in years...it's not hard at all for that to work.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2009, 12:40:44 PM
(I remember Never flying w/o a Red Pencil and Pen yrs ago, but sadly those days are long gone).
???
That reference went straight over my head.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on October 14, 2009, 02:07:15 PM
I've haven't had to show pic ID at the gate in years...it's not hard at all for that to work.

 I didnt say at the Gate. I imagine a person can do OLCI and have their friend purchase a tkt on a different flight and get thru TSA! that way, but lately Ive noticed the GAs looking at the BP before swiping it, is it to make sure that TSA has its stamp on it, I wouldnt want to have a GA question me how I got thru TSA w/o their stamping my BP.

 Then again theres not enough $$ involved for someone to put themselves at risk ,IMO. Also you will ned to provide a way for the other person to get back to where they flew from. It might work say if I was heading to CLE and I fly as You and then you continue on from CLE and I will fly back Home after you have flown back to CLE. But the % of something like that working out is slim, so now how do I get back home if I dont want to be in CLE till you return?

 So although in Principal it might be workable, its not a real option since of the problems of getting the person flying the 1st leg back home, chance that the GA will spot no TSA marks on the BP, and finding someone to actually be willing to fly the 1st and/or last segments for little or no $$.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on October 14, 2009, 02:17:37 PM
???
That reference went straight over my head.

 Before you were even born there was no such thing as E-Tkts. Each paper tkt had x amount of copies to it and each segment needed its own slip. When the TA wrote on the top slip it went thru till the last slip. So if a person wasnt gonna meet all of the fares requirements (eg min stay of days). The TA would press very lightly on the top slip so that it didnt show up completely on the last slip, then time to get out the Red Pencil and fill in what needed to be and it looked like it was simply never changed .

 The TA of cause went in and changed the res on their computer but with the Collection of Offical Carrier Stickers that you put on the slip and using the Red Pencil, it was a Slam Dunk and off you went.

Of cause you needed to know how to do it and have the Offical stickers, but that was simple . Once they went to printing the tkts and no longer having them issued Manually that ended that. true the TA might receive a Chareg back but usually a call to their sales person got it all wiped out.

Oh the Good Ole Days how I miss them, now either you pay to change everything or fly as tkted, the fun is gone
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2009, 02:26:09 PM
I didnt say at the Gate. I imagine a person can do OLCI and have their friend purchase a tkt on a different flight and get thru TSA! that way, but lately Ive noticed the GAs looking at the BP before swiping it, is it to make sure that TSA has its stamp on it, I wouldnt want to have a GA question me how I got thru TSA w/o their stamping my BP.

 Then again theres not enough $$ involved for someone to put themselves at risk ,IMO. Also you will ned to provide a way for the other person to get back to where they flew from. It might work say if I was heading to CLE and I fly as You and then you continue on from CLE and I will fly back Home after you have flown back to CLE. But the % of something like that working out is slim, so now how do I get back home if I dont want to be in CLE till you return?

 So although in Principal it might be workable, its not a real option since of the problems of getting the person flying the 1st leg back home, chance that the GA will spot no TSA marks on the BP, and finding someone to actually be willing to fly the 1st and/or last segments for little or no $$.
I often change my ticket at a kiosk or in the club post-security...not having a stamp has never raised an eyebrow for me.

As long as there are no bags being checked (or there are only bags from the origin and you check them in yourself) and you have a CC to buy a refundable ticket (or have a club membership) to get past TSA there shouldnt be an issue.

Not that I recommend doing any of this...just that it's entirely possible to accomplish.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 14, 2009, 04:41:14 PM
When using a paper ticket, the segments aren't so connected (whatever this means), and especially if switching airline (within the same alliance) they will not cancel the rest.
For the same reason you could play around with the paper tickets, as most of its info was on the paper and not electronic, meaning the computer.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on October 14, 2009, 04:41:45 PM
Dan

 I did mention about getting another tkt , didnt state make sure its a Fully Refundable. . Its rare except when Im Battlefield to switch BPs once Im thru TSA. But i have seen where a GA does give  BPs a quick going over. But as you said I guess if a person changes their seat then a new BP will be produced and if done on teh other side of TSA then no markings will be on it

Yea its doable but again, I dont know many people that will take the 1st flight unless there was something substanial in it for them and then theres the problem of getting them back to where they flew in from. All in all when all the expenses will be added up it probably wont make too much sense to try and pull this off

 Bout the thing that may pay is to do a Multi-city and start somewhere else (problem is how to get there) and then end where you want to. Dont know if it will cost effective.

 Although based a few miles from EWR, I have driven numerous times to PHL & BDL due to the cheap fares, and the majority of teh times my 1st flight is to EWR to catch teh flight I really wanted to be on. But I fly from and back to that originating Airport.

 Sort of like what you do by driving to CAK to catch FL, but Im flying CO,UA,AA and not any LCCs

 Id say 3 hrs is the max Id drive to catch an ElCheapo thats on both ends, so LAS will work when LA is my destination as well

 Never did the friend thing simply because I have too many miles at stake that if caught will mean my acct being Closed and miles taken away.. If my acct had almost no miles and there was at least $1000 in savings I might try it. Under those 2 conditions, I highly doubt it will ever be played out by me.

Not that I recommend doing any of this...just that it's entirely possible to accomplish.
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Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on October 14, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
When using a paper ticket, the segments aren't so connected (whatever this means), and especially if switching airline (within the same alliance) they will not cancel the rest.
For the same reason you could play around with the paper tickets, as most of its info was on the paper and not electronic, meaning the computer.

 again this may work on the OutBound flight, but if the return isnt within 24-48 hrs the computer will most likely catch what took place and cancel out the return.

Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 14, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
again this may work on the OutBound flight, but if the return isnt within 24-48 hrs the computer will most likely catch what took place and cancel out the return.



With all due respect, time is not an aspect here, the computer will for 99% not catch on with paper, but the most secure would be to involve different airlines.

For the people who want to risk to skip a segment, it sometimes help to make an online check-in for the not-to-be-flown segment, and although there will be a no-show, it sometimes still keeps the remainder of the trip intact.
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: mancunian on October 14, 2009, 06:21:58 PM
Did you fly united or delta?

Delta

I often change my ticket at a kiosk or in the club post-security...not having a stamp has never raised an eyebrow for me.

All the time. Also, i have been able to skip legs at the gate, i remember once with AA, and they changed the destination for me too, making it a perfect flight, lax-jfk, and just recently with united.

and theres no prob getting someone from burbank to lax

i was thinking to just find someone on an arriving flight who looked like he could use $50...
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2009, 06:49:28 PM
i was thinking to just find someone on an arriving flight who looked like he could use $50...
It would probably work, but like Steve2 said, is it worth the risk?
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: mancunian on October 14, 2009, 06:59:40 PM
It would probably work, but like Steve2 said, is it worth the risk?

thats for sure not, b/c im depending on some strangers intelligence that i should make my flight
Title: Re: skipping a leg with united
Post by: steve2 on October 15, 2009, 09:38:31 AM
thats for sure not, b/c im depending on some strangers intelligence that i should make my flight

 also dont forget to figure in the possibilty that the Original Flight will be delayed or canceled and the Carrier will want to book you on a another flight to the destination or even via a different carrier

 I can see it now, sir we are FIMing you over to USAir and putting you on their PHX-EWR non-stop which will get you into EWR 15 mins before the flight from LAX would have.

 The person flying for You: No Thanks I insist on flying the flights exactly as I purchased them, even it means me having to stay overnight at LAX and pay for it myself and get into EWR a day late

 Simply not worth it IMO, too many things that can go wrong and not enough incentive ($$ saved ) to warrant playing the game