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Title: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 01:11:01 AM
Post your Shayliah here and a DDF halacha expert such as
perhaps someone here knows if vitamins need a Hechsher?
...perhaps someone should ask his LOR.
can answer
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JEWDA on November 13, 2011, 01:12:28 AM
whats your point in starting this??
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 01:18:15 AM
Anyone have experience being in a hotel on shabbos and have ideas how to avoid chilul shabbos?
as an example
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on November 13, 2011, 01:18:49 AM
IMHO what gets people to read a thread is the title. Hence if the halcha question interests a user they will click on it and check out the thread but I doubt to many members will keep checking this thread for the latest shaila... In addition it will get very confusing discussing multiple shailos in 1 thread...

* Reference the proposed News master thread for an example of failed master threads. http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10652.msg129880#msg129880
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 01:21:18 AM
we can work shaylo by shaylo
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JEWDA on November 13, 2011, 01:24:35 AM
whats "teffia"?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 01:25:12 AM
deep (yiddish)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JEWDA on November 13, 2011, 01:27:50 AM
deep (yiddish)
you mean teef
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 01:28:30 AM
same thing depends where you learned
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on November 13, 2011, 01:31:42 AM
we can work shaylo by shaylo

I just don't see it working out for above mentioned reasons. Either way i wish this thread the best of luck!
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: clownaparte on November 13, 2011, 01:32:43 AM
Perhaps a whole section with each question having its own thread... :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 01:35:29 AM
speak to dan
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: clownaparte on November 13, 2011, 01:35:59 AM
Dan? Dan? Are you there? Do you hear me?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
lol report to mod
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on November 13, 2011, 01:57:50 AM
Perhaps a whole section with each question having its own thread... :)

It may look a bit to frummy if halcha was one of the subjects on the home page. I just don't see whats wrong with how we have done it till now. When someone has a question we discuss it, argue, hopefully come to a resolution and that's the end of the thread... Why change a good thing?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 02:01:26 AM
It may look a bit to frummy if halcha was one of the subjects on the home page. I just don't see whats wrong with how we have done it till now. When someone has a question we discuss it, argue, hopefully come to a resolution and that's the end of the thread... Why change a good thing?
better yet we would look like YW CR if we had one  ;D
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on November 13, 2011, 02:12:35 AM
better yet we would look like YW CR if we had one  ;D

My point exactly.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AsherO on November 13, 2011, 04:08:38 AM
It may look a bit to frummy if halcha was one of the subjects on the home page. I just don't see whats wrong with how we have done it till now. When someone has a question we discuss it, argue, hopefully come to a resolution and that's the end of the thread... Why change a good thing?

I don't mind, I'd be glad if there was one forum I could avoid and circumnavigate all these arguments :P

It would be best if the rules forbade people from discussing halacha in other forums :D
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: SuperFlyer on November 13, 2011, 06:07:14 AM
deep (yiddish)
you mean teef
same thing depends where you learned


If it means deep (in english), or in depth, its "teef" in yiddish, and nothing else, no matter where you learn.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Name Changed on November 13, 2011, 08:35:33 AM
Good idea, but I doubt it'll work... too many topics in one thread...

But maybe it should be a new section, and there, there could be a thread for each Shailo
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 08:46:12 AM
Good idea, but I doubt it'll work... too many topics in one thread...

But maybe it should be a new section, and there, there could be a thread for each Shailo
Perhaps a whole section with each question having its own thread... :)
did u read the whole thread?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Name Changed on November 13, 2011, 09:24:54 AM
did u read the whole thread?

Im just agreeing to what others said...

Take this instead

+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 13, 2011, 02:16:56 PM
ah, now i chap
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on November 13, 2011, 11:49:05 PM
@OP

I never said what you quoted me as saying.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bubbles on November 13, 2011, 11:49:51 PM
@OP

I never said what you quoted me as saying.

he flipped them by mistake. was actually wondering when you were going to speak up  :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on November 13, 2011, 11:56:21 PM
he flipped them by mistake. was actually wondering when you were going to speak up  :)

Yea, I noticed. When I read the sarcastic (second) remark, I knew it had to be me and he flipped 'em.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: good sam on November 14, 2011, 04:24:04 PM
Maybe just make a separate website: DansDinnim.com
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mercaz1 on November 14, 2011, 04:34:46 PM
this thread is already confusing without anyone even asking a question yet
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: FlyFirst on November 14, 2011, 05:14:17 PM
this thread is already confusing without anyone even asking a question yet
And its getting TEFFIA as well  ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: good sam on November 15, 2011, 10:37:52 AM
this thread is already confusing without anyone even asking a question yet
Okay, I'll start:
What does the DD bais horaah say about getting a business card for personal spending?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AsherO on November 15, 2011, 10:42:51 AM
What does the DD bais horaah say about getting a business card for personal spending?

Don't worry about it. The only place there might be a ch'shash (AFAIK) is with Amex F/R.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: good sam on November 15, 2011, 12:02:10 PM
Don't worry about it. The only place there might be a ch'shash (AFAIK) is with Amex F/R.
Are you referring to the Issur or the Oinish?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AsherO on November 15, 2011, 12:06:02 PM
Are you referring to the Issur or the Oinish?

Depends which shita you follow, there are a few ways to learn this sugya.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 15, 2011, 12:46:09 PM
I've been wondering what the DDF LOR says about multiple Venmo accts.

I personally think its assur to open more than one, since every cc charge cost them money, and they are suffering the loss in order to gain another user. Hence saying you are a second person, when you really are the same is outright stealing, IMHO. Even assuming none of the owners/investors are Jewish, we pasken Gezel Aku"m is assur (as a separate issur, not onlyy when C"H is applicable).
I don't however think its a problem opening an account for young kids, as they are another 'person' and are given by Venmo a right to an acct, even if its reall me that's using it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mercaz1 on November 15, 2011, 01:16:19 PM
heres a shaila
alot of yeshivas are doing the amex small business credit so they can get donations but they are not really a small business so is that not stealing from amex
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Name Changed on November 15, 2011, 02:40:51 PM
heres a shaila
alot of yeshivas are doing the amex small business credit so they can get donations but they are not really a small business so is that not stealing from amex

Is opening many AU that arent "real" not stealing?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: moko on November 15, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
Is opening many AU that arent "real" not stealing?
how do open AU's that arent real
they ask for a social and bday and when bday and ss didnt match they caught it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: good sam on November 15, 2011, 06:09:42 PM
how do open AU's that arent real
they ask for a social and bday and when bday and ss didnt match they caught it
In any event, two questionable practices don't make a legit one.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: moko on November 15, 2011, 07:09:00 PM
i was askin practical advice
btw what is this "Halocho" thing ur all taking about ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on November 15, 2011, 09:27:09 PM
i was askin practical advice
btw what is this "Halocho" thing ur all taking about ;D ;D ;D
hey, if u wanted to make that sound real, y not quote it properly and put an "a" at the end like the topic name
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 15, 2011, 11:21:20 PM
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JEWDA on November 15, 2011, 11:23:26 PM
Can we close this topic we arent gaining a/t from it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on November 15, 2011, 11:47:08 PM
Can we close this topic we arent gaining a/t from it
but what happens if people have questions ? we need the DDF halacha (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11285.msg141118#msg141118) experts to answer them 

@yeki89 (OP)  (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11285.msg141118#msg141118)- btw i just realized that ur quotes in that post, are backwards "Cbs" asked the Q and "AJK" answered (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11283.msg141069#msg141069)



Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on November 15, 2011, 11:52:50 PM
@OP

I never said what you quoted me as saying.
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bubbles on November 16, 2011, 12:02:29 AM
Can we close this topic we arent gaining a/t from it

Don't read it?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on November 16, 2011, 10:42:29 AM

i guess i missed it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on November 16, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
@yeki89 (OP)  (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11285.msg141118#msg141118)- btw i just realized that ur quotes in that post, are backwards "Cbs" asked the Q and "AJK" answered (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11283.msg141069#msg141069)

thats what happens wen you post from a phone


[/quote]
Don't read it?
well said
how do open AU's that arent real
they ask for a social and bday and when bday and ss didnt match they caught it
i onced added an AU on my Amex starwood card, i told them a name and bday and said i wud call back with the social and they sent me the cards
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: moko on November 16, 2011, 07:36:44 PM
i guess its a matter of putpaca
bec. the 1st time they told me to call back with the ss to get the AU
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Name Changed on November 16, 2011, 10:44:17 PM
how do open AU's that arent real
they ask for a social and bday and when bday and ss didnt match they caught it

I have opened AU's a while ago without giving a ss
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: kracked dude on November 17, 2011, 06:57:05 PM
does one have to take maaser on Cash Back?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 07:09:51 PM
does one have to take maaser on Cash Back?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8321.0
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: kracked dude on November 17, 2011, 07:15:08 PM
thanks! no search option yet on the (regular) mobile version of DDF :-( 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: good sam on November 17, 2011, 08:08:50 PM
I have opened AU's a while ago without giving a ss
Same here
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AsherO on November 17, 2011, 08:20:39 PM
thanks! no search option yet on the (regular) mobile version of DDF :-( 

Just use this:

Curve Mobile Theme, I've mentioned my preference for it several times. I get to it by following this URL (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?nowap;theme=4).
Warning, if you click the link from a desktop it will mess up how DDF is formatted.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: kracked dude on November 17, 2011, 09:18:35 PM
I know about the curve mobile theme but I don't like it as it isn't as compact and neat as the regular mobile theme, another problem is that its way too slow on my phone. also on the regular mobile theme their is no way to click on "this URL"
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Name Changed on November 20, 2011, 11:13:26 PM
Just use this:
Warning, if you click the link from a desktop it will mess up how DDF is formatted.

Click below to switch back to the regular DDF

Click Here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?theme=1)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on December 20, 2011, 09:22:11 PM
How about trying out a product like an oreck with no intention to keep it just so you can keep the free gift?  Mutar or ossur?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on December 21, 2011, 11:43:59 AM
i would say mutar, that is their advertising, we are so convinced that u will keep it that we will let u have for free.....
a better saylah is can u "borrow" from walmart or costco?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AsherO on December 21, 2011, 02:00:45 PM
a better saylah is can u "borrow" from walmart or costco?

Ask a Costco CSR and see what they say...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on December 21, 2011, 10:29:16 PM
I don't mind, I'd be glad if there was one forum I could avoid and circumnavigate all these arguments :P
:)
AsherO it's good to see you're participating after all :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: MarkS on December 22, 2011, 10:27:19 AM
A friend of mine got a big screen TV at Best Buy before the superbowl. He told the rep that he was planning on returning it the day after and asked if that was ok.

The rep said ' We are so convinced that you will love it and want to keep it that we are happy to sell it to you'.

My friend explained that he would never spend that much money on a TV, and didn't even want to own a TV in his house - just needed it for a super bowl party.

The rep said 'No problem!' Take it and enjoy'!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 22, 2011, 10:29:46 AM
A friend of mine got a big screen TV at Best Buy before the superbowl. He told the rep that he was planning on returning it the day after and asked if that was ok.

The rep said ' We are so convinced that you will love it and want to keep it that we are happy to sell it to you'.

My friend explained that he would never spend that much money on a TV, and didn't even want to own a TV in his house - just needed it for a super bowl party.

The rep said 'No problem!' Take it and enjoy'!
So the rep's authrization is qualified?
I guess that's corp-wide policy though, still if you really don't have the money and there's absolutely no chance you'll buy it (now or later) I don't think its ok
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JEWDA on December 22, 2011, 10:41:39 AM
I think nowdays stores know that ppl do that so it might be ok.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on December 22, 2011, 10:47:40 AM
A friend of mine got a big screen TV at Best Buy before the superbowl. He told the rep that he was planning on returning it the day after and asked if that was ok.

The rep said ' We are so convinced that you will love it and want to keep it that we are happy to sell it to you'.

My friend explained that he would never spend that much money on a TV, and didn't even want to own a TV in his house - just needed it for a super bowl party.

The rep said 'No problem!' Take it and enjoy'!
read this post (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10703.msg136557#msg136557) and the replies (similar situation)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Name Changed on December 22, 2011, 11:08:30 AM
I did read in the Business Halacha Publication that you are not allowed to buy if you have intention to return, even if the store has no problem with it.

I am not saying the Halacha - Just what I read

Also there could be a Chilul Hashem by doing this in a store thats near/in a Jewish community.

I used buy and return... Now not rly anymore...

I do have bestbuy silver - I get a 45 Days return on anything (even computers)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on December 22, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
@name changed
wud u buy and return if needed?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Name Changed on December 22, 2011, 11:34:17 AM
@name changed
wud u buy and return if needed?

If I really need something... I'd think twice

But there really isnt anything that I would need to borrow. I could either borrow for someone, or... Just buy it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 22, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
I think nowdays stores know that ppl do that so it might be ok.
I don't see how 'knoweldge' legitimizes it. If 7-11 knows people drink slurpees behind the counter, does that make it ok?
From the Halchich perspective, the purchase is final, they are letting you return it if it doesn't fit or you changed your mind... Not if you bought it All Daas Hachi.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: doublejay on January 03, 2012, 03:41:18 PM
I don't see how 'knoweldge' legitimizes it. If 7-11 knows people drink slurpees behind the counter, does that make it ok?
From the Halchich perspective, the purchase is final, they are letting you return it if it doesn't fit or you changed your mind... Not if you bought it All Daas Hachi.

Not too knowledgeable in the subject but my understanding is as follows:

When a company knows that something is going on that they have the right to object to and they don't they are in essence being mochel.

They don't need to actually put a stop to the problem (sometimes it's not possible) but they should raise an objection (make a macha'a).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on January 03, 2012, 06:39:19 PM
Here's a new shaila.  Sometimes companies send out special promotional codes to loyal customers - or for some other reason.  People then go and post those codes on the web for everyone to use.  If you don't "deserve" that promotion should it still be mutar for you to use it?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on January 03, 2012, 06:41:14 PM
Here's a new shaila.  Sometimes companies send out special promotional codes to loyal customers - or for some other reason.  People then go and post those codes on the web for everyone to use.  If you don't "deserve" that promotion should it still be mutar for you to use it?
that might belong there, no? http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12784.0
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farmerjoe on January 03, 2012, 06:45:29 PM
that might belong there, no? http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12784.0
ethical and halachic are different, he wants to know halachicly
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on January 03, 2012, 06:48:47 PM
ethical and halachic are different, he wants to know halachicly
i dont think that question has any halchick side to it. i think its a matter of ethical or not. - why, do u think its considered stealing?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farmerjoe on January 03, 2012, 06:51:51 PM
do u think its considered stealing?
i think thats what he is asking, is it halachicly stealing?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on January 03, 2012, 06:55:41 PM
i think thats what he is asking, is it halachicly stealing?
i dont think anyone would consider it stealing. i may be wrong though.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on January 03, 2012, 09:04:47 PM
i dont think anyone would consider it stealing. i may be wrong though.
I don't know.  I would think that quite possibly if they are offering a special discount as hakaras hatov and you apply it even though it wasn't meant for you that might be stealing.  You feel differently?   Recently there was a way to get magazines for free.  If i understood correctly it was a code that was specifically given to teachers but then got leaked.  Why should anyone who was not given the code and didn't earn it be allowed to use it? 

I'm not judging others, I'm just asking.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Chaikel on January 04, 2012, 07:38:20 AM
Is it mutar to diet?

Check out Igros Moshe CM 2 65 (http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=921&st=&pgnum=286&hilite=)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Cbs on January 04, 2012, 09:55:57 AM
Is it mutar to diet?

Check out Igros Moshe CM 2 65
 (http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=921&st=&pgnum=286&hilite=)
wow i guess there are things that you wouldnt think that have a halacha side to it!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Chaikel on January 04, 2012, 06:14:03 PM
wow i guess there are things that you wouldnt think that have a halacha side to it!
I just found out that the person who asked the shaila was about 10 at the time. Look how R' Moshe addressed him
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on January 04, 2012, 09:36:33 PM
I just found out that the person who asked the shaila was about 10 at the time. Look how R' Moshe addressed him

A gadol is a gadol is a gadol.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mclovin on February 15, 2012, 08:04:55 PM
is one allowed to own stock in a company like Mcdonalds that uses meat/milk products. im not asking about regular not kosher but basur vechalav bec it is assur in hanah. what about a company like costco which sells those types of products but is not a major source of their income. i know it is discussed so really looking for rabbanim/sefarim that talk about it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: txtmax4 on February 16, 2012, 12:28:12 AM
I just went through this whole thread and I am surprised that I haven't really seen the most common answer given whenever someone asks an halachic question on DDF, the YMMV of halachic questions: "Ask your LOR".
Before reading, I really thought this thread was gonna be pointless cause it would be full of those answers..


ps.(Still pointless IMO since you really should only rely on an LOR and not someone on DDF).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mclovin on February 17, 2012, 02:49:18 PM
is one allowed to own stock in a company like Mcdonalds that uses meat/milk products. im not asking about regular not kosher but basur vechalav bec it is assur in hanah. what about a company like costco which sells those types of products but is not a major source of their income. i know it is discussed so really looking for rabbanim/sefarim that talk about it
do i win a prize for being the first person to stump the ddf rabbinate
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on February 17, 2012, 03:06:25 PM
do i win a prize for being the first person to stump the ddf rabbinate
The problem is you asked for halacha le'masah. If you would of asked for everyone to blabber an opinion it would be a different story... ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mclovin on February 17, 2012, 03:54:14 PM
ok 3,2,1 go let the blabbering begin
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on February 17, 2012, 04:08:18 PM
ok 3,2,1 go let the blabbering begin
Asur bi'hana means asur bi'hana. NO? If you want to find loopholes in yidishkeit I am sure you could, but why risk your olam haba for some money? You should be investing in other things like yeshivas, kolels, and kiruv organizations then you will earn a REAL parnasa :). Good babel?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AsherO on February 17, 2012, 04:28:19 PM
Asur bi'hana means asur bi'hana. NO? If you want to find loopholes in yidishkeit I am sure you could, but why risk your olam haba for some money? You should be investing in other things like yeshivas, kolels, and kiruv organizations then you will earn a REAL parnasa :). Good babel?

That argument is problematic, because Chametz Sheaavar Alav Hapesach is also assur b'hanaah (b'mashehu), and it would be a problem with many food corporations/conglomerates.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on February 17, 2012, 04:36:38 PM
That argument is problematic, because Chametz Sheaavar Alav Hapesach is also assur b'hanaah (b'mashehu), and it would be a problem with many food corporations/conglomerates.
The individual can sell his stock along with his other food to a goy. Same thing any Jew that owns a non-kosher grocery does over pessach. What is the deal with earning stock money on shabbos?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mclovin on February 23, 2012, 01:41:50 PM
  What is the deal with earning stock money on shabbos?

the market is closed on shabbos and sunday
is one allowed to own stock in a company like Mcdonalds that uses meat/milk products. im not asking about regular not kosher but basur vechalav bec it is assur in hanah. what about a company like costco which sells those types of products but is not a major source of their income. i know it is discussed so really looking for rabbanim/sefarim that talk about it
according to the BHI (business halacha institute) the poskim come out that it is permitted
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jj1000 on February 23, 2012, 02:02:54 PM

the market is closed on shabbos and sunday, according to the BHI (business halacha institute) the poskim come out that it is permitted
Depends which market you are invested in... And that is cool. Did they give a svara?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mclovin on February 23, 2012, 02:15:49 PM
Depends which market you are invested in... And that is cool. Did they give a svara?
all they said was that the poskim come out its ok ( i knew it was a hock) but i will ask them for more info
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Avid Reader on March 05, 2012, 11:39:35 AM
Just saw this new sefer that's sure to interest many of us here:
"הטשעק בהלכה"
בהלכות קרעדיט קארדס - עסקי באנק - סטאקס - באנדס - טרענספערס - וואוטשערס ועוד

(http://i42.tinypic.com/14278cm.jpg)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JEWDA on March 05, 2012, 11:48:49 AM
Just saw this new sefer that's sure to interest many of us here:
"הטשעק בהלכה"
בהלכות קרעדיט קארדס - עסקי באנק - סטאקס - באנדס - טרענספערס - וואוטשערס ועוד

Who is it written by?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Avid Reader on March 05, 2012, 11:56:10 AM
Who is it written by?
Don't know. This forum user  (http://www.ivelt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=6778&start=775) says the author is פינחס מנחם ליפשיץ
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JEWDA on March 05, 2012, 12:08:05 PM
Don't know. This forum user  (http://www.ivelt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=6778&start=775) says the author is פינחס מנחם ליפשיץ
Oh I thought you have the book.
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bubbles on June 25, 2012, 09:08:40 AM
Yes.
And if anyone wants to fuss about it, please do it here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11285.0) or here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8321.0), or make a new thread.

If you don't mind explaining I thought that you can't receive anything in return for maaser?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: dirah on June 25, 2012, 09:14:22 AM
1. How are you receiving anything in return? Money that you could have spend on yourself (albeit with a bit more difficulty) and instead spent on צדקה, is your money given to צדקה. What's the difference if you give $10 to צדקה, or $10 amex credit to צדקה. Just like you can deduct a $10 cash donation from the מעשר money that you owe, so too, you can deduct a $10 amex credit from the מעשר money that you owe.

2. Even according to your presumption that you are getting something in return for Maaser:
If you have "The laws of Tzedakah and Maaser" (Artscroll), check pp 149 for a far more novel situation.
In case you don't have it, pertinent quote in footnote 31:
שו"ת אג"מ יו"ד ח"א סי' קמ"ג, דאפילו הנאה וריוח ממש הבאה לאדם ע"י גרם הצדקה שנתן שייך לו ולא לצדקה
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bubbles on June 25, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
1. How are you receiving anything in return? Money that you could have spend on yourself (albeit with a bit more difficulty) and instead spent on צדקה, is your money given to צדקה. What's the difference if you give $10 to צדקה, or $10 amex credit to צדקה.

2. Even according to your presumption that you are getting something in return for Maaser:
If you have "The laws of Tzedakah and Maaser" (Artscroll), check pp 149 for a far more novel situation.
In case you don't have it, pertinent quote in footnote 31:
שו"ת אג"מ יו"ד ח"א סי' קמ"ג, דאפילו הנאה וריוח ממש הבאה לאדם ע"י גרם הצדקה שנתן שייך לו ולא לצדקה

as for point one I wan't sure about that in this situation since as you said as of now there is not a very practical way for you to spend the credit on yourself

Ill have to check it up thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: dirah on June 25, 2012, 09:21:04 AM
as for point one I wan't sure about that in this situation since as you said as of now there is not a very practical way for you to spend the credit on yourself
For the sake of argument, let us suppose - as you say - that I have absolutely no other way of spending the money at all.
So what?
The amex credit is still my money, and I can exercise the right to give it to צדקה or not. If I do give it, I have given צדקה from that which is mine. Why shouldn't I be able to deduct it from the מעשר money that I owe?
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bubbles on June 25, 2012, 09:23:12 AM
For the sake of argument, let us suppose - as you say - that I have absolutely no other way of spending the money at all.
So what?
The amex credit is still my money, and I can exercise the right to give it to צדקה or not. If I do give it, I have given צדקה from that which is mine. Why shouldn't I be able to deduct it from the מעשר money that I owe?

But do you get to count what tzedaka gains or what you are losing? Does this credit have a $10 value to you?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: dirah on June 25, 2012, 09:30:45 AM
Does this credit have a $10 value to you?
Yes it does. I can fly to Boston and use it there. I can give it to my fourth cousin's friend's ex-classmate who lives in Boston and would like to use it for me. Etc etc. The fact that I do not find it convenient to do so does not negate its intrinsic value.

Let me ask you a question:
Let's say you are on a flight leaving Israel with 10 Shek in your pocket, and you know that you have no way of using it back home in the USA. You also know that you are not returning to Israel in the foreseeable future [Golus plan]. So, you decide to give the 10 Shek to a Meshulach on the plane who is collecting money. Are you not entitled to deduct that against what you owe Maser?
I imagine you will answer yes.
Well, how is this case different?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Yeki89 on June 25, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
i would say it can come from masser, but u still need to give another $1 from the $10 you made!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: dans fan on June 27, 2012, 11:10:27 AM
Yes it does. I can fly to Boston and use it there. I can give it to my fourth cousin's friend's ex-classmate who lives in Boston and would like to use it for me. Etc etc. The fact that I do not find it convenient to do so does not negate its intrinsic value.

Let me ask you a question:
Let's say you are on a flight leaving Israel with 10 Shek in your pocket, and you know that you have no way of using it back home in the USA. You also know that you are not returning to Israel in the foreseeable future [Golus plan]. So, you decide to give the 10 Shek to a Meshulach on the plane who is collecting money. Are you not entitled to deduct that against what you owe Maser?
I imagine you will answer yes.
Well, how is this case different?
huge dif between giving something that you have opposed to causing someone to gain cuz of you withoutt you actually giving anything. if you would give the meshulach 10 shech and then someone else repays you that may be maiser, but informing aq meshulach where he can find 10 shech that you could of taken for yourself is dif
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on June 27, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
huge dif between giving something that you have opposed to causing someone to gain cuz of you withoutt you actually giving anything. if you would give the meshulach 10 shech and then someone else repays you that may be maiser, but informing aq meshulach where he can find 10 shech that you could of taken for yourself is dif

Disagree.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: dirah on June 27, 2012, 08:19:53 PM
Disagree.
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: dans fan on July 01, 2012, 09:01:32 PM
imo Disagree.
ftfy
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2012, 11:00:35 PM
Thank you Captain Obvious.

I mean, who did you think I was disagreeing for...? You?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Lamdan on July 02, 2012, 12:19:05 AM
Can s/o fix the title of this topic. What in the world is teffia?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Saver2000 on July 02, 2012, 12:36:32 AM
Can s/o fix the title of this topic. What in the world is teffia?
Lol
"Teef" means deep. Its a spelling mistake.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: dans fan on July 02, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
Thank you Captain Obvious.

I mean, who did you think I was disagreeing for...? You?
i didnt think you would state your opinion in a halacha thread without making it very clear that its just your opinion and not the actual halacha
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Lamdan on July 02, 2012, 10:28:10 PM
Lol
"Teef" means deep. Its a spelling mistake.
I thought it was supposed to be tefila  :D
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bubbles on July 10, 2012, 09:39:03 PM
Not sure if this has been discussed yet but any ribbis issues in asking a friend to do you a favor and use your cc? If there is maybe having him prepay would help?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Saver2000 on July 10, 2012, 09:47:51 PM
Not sure if this has been discussed yet but any ribbis issues in asking a friend to do you a favor and use your cc? If there is maybe having him prepay would help?

Are you not paying the balance in full and therefore being charged interest? Or are you talking about the points part of it?
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bubbles on July 10, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
Are you not paying the balance in full and therefore being charged interest? Or are you talking about the points part of it?

I'm talking more of the favor part. You're asking him to do you a favor and accept a loan (so that you can get points/sign up/whatever). Is that not an issue? As far as the points go if you consider those as a rebate would that be an issue?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: mek on July 10, 2012, 11:59:52 PM
Are you not paying the balance in full and therefore being charged interest?

Maybe that would depend on if tzad echad b'ribis is muter
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Saver2000 on July 11, 2012, 02:34:25 AM
I'm talking more of the favor part. You're asking him to do you a favor and accept a loan (so that you can get points/sign up/whatever). Is that not an issue? As far as the points go if you consider those as a rebate would that be an issue?

I'm not a posek. I have the same questions you have. I asked what your problems were bec I was hoping you would say one of the questions isn't a problem and share the reasoning.

I plan on asking a posek one of these days but I probably won't post the psak publicly.

Maybe that would depend on if tzad echad b'ribis is muter

I haven't learned the sugya and therefore not familiar with that terminology.

I was told that if I  lend somebody my cc to use, and he carries a balance,  I would need to pay the interest.  If I pass on the interest charges to him its very not poshut and it could be a regular case of ribbis. The heter would be to make a heter iska beforehand (or even afterwards? ).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on August 28, 2013, 12:22:45 PM
Stalpes offers a coupon for $20 off and write that it cannot be used for gc's.  Sometimes it's worth it to try because the system allows it and they don't chap.  If you are using their coupon and violating their tnai is it muttar?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: bzam99 on August 28, 2013, 12:52:36 PM
Stalpes offers a coupon for $20 off and write that it cannot be used for gc's.  Sometimes it's worth it to try because the system allows it and they don't chap.  If you are using their coupon and violating their tnai is it muttar?
Whats the ztad that its mutar?
A mistake of a goy is mutar (not withstanding inyan of kiddush Hashem)
soliciting a mistake thoiugh is assur (I think-can somebody confirm that?)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on August 28, 2013, 01:06:54 PM
Correct. TTBOMK, one cannot "exploit" a mistake, even of a goy.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Centro on August 28, 2013, 01:28:37 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/u7u2ytez.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/zesume4y.jpg)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: rots5 on August 28, 2013, 01:44:26 PM
Correct. TTBOMK, one cannot "exploit" a mistake, even of a goy.
a mistake of a computer might not be considered exploiting of a goy.... hence why the PGGM might be allowed acc to some...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on August 28, 2013, 03:02:15 PM

Correct. TTBOMK, one cannot "exploit" a mistake, even of a goy.

I believe you are incorrect.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: AJK on August 28, 2013, 04:11:08 PM
I believe you are incorrect.

Take it up with your LOR. I have.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: rots5 on August 28, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
Take it up with your LOR. I have.
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on August 28, 2013, 07:07:19 PM
I was sure people would be upset with me for even asking the question and here so many people say its ossur
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Centro on August 28, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
I was sure people would be upset with me for even asking the question and here so many people say its ossur
Well you gotto clarify first if a system error is considered as להטעותו as rots5 said.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on August 28, 2013, 08:36:35 PM
What's the חילוק ?  Isn't the vort that you are knowingly causing him (or in this case the corporation) to lose and therefore it is similar to גניבה.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Centro on August 28, 2013, 10:10:17 PM
What's the חילוק ?  Isn't the vort that you are knowingly causing him (or in this case the corporation) to lose and therefore it is similar to גניבה.
Well when he makes a price mistake you also know that you're causing him to lose,

But what might be is that an unknown error in the system isn't considered as a "mistake", I would look at it rather as an unknown hole/opening leading to your products which you won't call it a "mistake".

Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: yuneeq on August 28, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
What's the חילוק ?  Isn't the vort that you are knowingly causing him (or in this case the corporation) to lose and therefore it is similar to גניבה.

Are corporations people? Romney was killed for that line after all :D
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Mark F on August 30, 2013, 04:01:19 PM
Whats the halacha regarding selling on shabbos? (online retail)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on August 30, 2013, 05:13:46 PM
We definitely hondled this somewhere. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Centro on August 30, 2013, 05:23:21 PM
We definitely hondled this somewhere.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18685.msg493975.msg#493975
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: MosheP on September 01, 2013, 08:21:40 PM
Can someone please help me with figuring out when the "ashmoros halyla" occur tonight? For zip code 08701.

Links for Zmanim....         Myzmanim (http://www.myzmanim.com/day.aspx?vars=us08701) Chabad (http://www.chabad.org/calendar/zmanim.htm#locationId=08701&locationType=2&tdate=9/1/2013)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Centro on September 01, 2013, 10:59:17 PM
Can someone please help me with figuring out when the "ashmoros halyla" occur tonight? For zip code 08701.

Links for Zmanim....         Myzmanim (http://www.myzmanim.com/day.aspx?vars=us08701) Chabad (http://www.chabad.org/calendar/zmanim.htm#locationId=08701&locationType=2&tdate=9/1/2013)
From what I read I understand that it depends in 2 things,

#1
If we divide the night into 3 ashmoires or if we divide it into 4 ashmoires.

#2
If we count night starting from the shkia until the netz or from the tzes until the alois hashachar.

Now you take the whole night and divide into 3 ( if we say that the night has 3 ashmoires ) or into 4 ( if we say that it has 4 ashmoires ).

So being that the shkia in your area is 7:27 and the netz is 6:24 so a 1/3 of the night would be 3 hours and 39 minutes and a 1/4 of the night would be 2 hours and 44 minutes.

And if we count night night from the tzes to the alois then being that the tzes is 8:39 and the alois is 5:00 so a 1/3 of the night would be 2 hours and 43 minutes and a 1/4 would be 2 hours and 10 minutes.

I might be totally wrong but as far as I understand this subject this should be the answer, anybody CMIIW.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: MosheP on September 01, 2013, 11:05:50 PM
From what I read I understand that it depends in 2 things,

#1
If we divide the night into 3 ashmoires or if we divide it into 4 ashmoires.

#2
If we count night starting from the shkia until the netz or from the tzes until the alois hashachar.

Now you take the whole night and divide into 3 ( if we say that the night has 3 ashmoires ) or into 4 ( if we say that it has 4 ashmoires ).

So being that the shkia in your area is 7:27 and the netz is 6:24 so a 1/3 of the night would be 3 hours and 39 minutes and a 1/4 of the night would be 2 hours and 44 minutes.

And if we count night night from the tzes to the alois then being that the tzes is 8:39 and the alois is 5:00 so a 1/3 of the night would be 2 hours and 43 minutes and a 1/4 would be 2 hours and 10 minutes.

I might be totally wrong but as far as I understand this subject this should be the answer, anybody CMIIW.

I think we follow the oponion of 3 ashmoires. I too am unsure of when we start counting, anybody know for sure?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 01, 2013, 11:10:12 PM
(Little OT)

Bottom line, what's better: Selichos at ten AM or ten PM?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: good sam on January 02, 2014, 04:48:41 PM
Anyone ever come across this?

http://halachipedia.com/ (http://halachipedia.com/)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: jack12 on January 02, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
A site where you can submit questions - http://pocketrabbi.com/
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Anyone ever come across this?

http://halachipedia.com/ (http://halachipedia.com/)
It's run by a talmid at YU
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: good sam on January 02, 2014, 06:00:54 PM
It's run by a talmid at YU
Forget it

jk
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Forget it

jk
No you weren't
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 02, 2014, 08:32:36 PM
Any monkey can edit those halochos...

Forgetabotit
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
Yeah, but can the monkey read a kesubah?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on January 02, 2014, 10:49:22 PM
Yeah, but can the monkey read a kesubah?
sure just like a woman (got the reference, very good :))
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Salty on January 02, 2014, 11:22:11 PM
Forgetabotit

Fuhgeddaboudit, alternatively.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: yehuda S on January 02, 2014, 11:46:47 PM
Question: I have a set of Cutco knives that I can send in to the company for sharpening. I've always wondered if this would be halachically problematic?

The simplest problem could be if they return someone else's knives to me...

Any ideas?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 02, 2014, 11:53:06 PM
Question: I have a set of Cutco knives that I can send in to the company for sharpening. I've always wondered if this would be halachically problematic?

The simplest problem could be if they return someone else's knives to me...

Any ideas?
How do they sharpen the blades? Use something that gets hot? With liquid? That has belios from treif knives?

Worst case scenario you should be able to do hagola...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Ergel on January 03, 2014, 12:09:05 AM
Question: I have a set of Cutco knives that I can send in to the company for sharpening. I've always wondered if this would be halachically problematic?

The simplest problem could be if they return someone else's knives to me...

Any ideas?
Pretty sure you wouldn't have to be choshesh for that. Uman is has neemanus
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: rots5 on January 03, 2014, 03:08:07 AM
he makes a good point, if one brings in a microwave to sears to fix, we might have to be choshesh that they used to to'test' it out or heat up there lunch at the same time. with that being said, if anything you would have to do libun. it can be used in the fire...

i am not paskining but just saying the sides to the coin.... there is a chazon ish (and even the mechaber) who says that when yo buy new kailim you need to do hagaloa to them, bec of the shuman (and also bec of this cheshash)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Dr Moose on January 03, 2014, 03:53:56 AM
Question: I have a set of Cutco knives that I can send in to the company for sharpening. I've always wondered if this would be halachically problematic?

The simplest problem could be if they return someone else's knives to me...

Any ideas?
IINM you can ask to have someone come to your house to sharpen them.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: zh cohen on January 06, 2014, 09:27:46 AM

Worst case scenario you should be able to do hagola...

Not sure hagola is enough for knives.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 06, 2014, 11:37:37 AM
Not sure hagola is enough for knives.
Agree (we are machmir on knives in some occasions) ask a LOR.
Just saying that there may be a problem even if the knife sharpener came to you, as his tools get hot and are probably used on non kosher knives also.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Dr Moose on January 06, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Agree (we are machmir on knives in some occasions) ask a LOR.
Just saying that there may be a problem even if the knife sharpener came to you, as his tools get hot and are probably used on non kosher knives also.
Naat bar nat (nosein taam bar nosein taam)?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 06, 2014, 11:44:05 AM
Naat bar nat (nosein taam bar nosein taam)?
Lechatchila?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farfallen on January 06, 2014, 11:51:30 AM
Ask your LOR but practically hechsherim are not worried and allow commercial knife sharpening for many reasons among them knives are always cleaned before sharpening....
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Ergel on January 06, 2014, 11:58:27 AM
Naat bar nat (nosein taam bar nosein taam)?
Doesn't apply by dvar issur. Only by heter (basar or chalav)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 06, 2014, 12:32:34 PM
Doesn't apply by dvar issur. Only by heter (basar or chalav)
Stam keilihem einam ben yomo also.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Ergel on January 06, 2014, 01:39:04 PM
Stam keilihem einam ben yomo also.
That does apply to dvar issur. Not sure you can assume that here though.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: avremie on January 06, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Naat bar nat (nosein taam bar nosein taam)?
does not apply to a knife דוחקא דסכינא plus could have been דבר חריף plus
Doesn't apply by dvar issur. Only by heter (basar or chalav)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: avremie on January 06, 2014, 09:33:23 PM
Stam keilihem einam ben yomo also.
Lechatchila?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 06, 2014, 10:43:15 PM
does not apply to a knife דוחקא דסכינא plus could have been דבר חריף plus
Crmiiw but he was talking about a knife getting belious from the sharpening machine. Not sure that would be called duchka.
If you mean switching knives, you would need a future dovor chorif... ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: avremie on January 06, 2014, 11:46:21 PM
I Mean if was switched with someone else who had blias  issur 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Ergel on January 07, 2014, 12:05:56 AM
I Mean if was switched with someone else who had blias  issur
The discussion now is about the sharpening instrument
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 07, 2014, 12:29:10 AM
The discussion now is about the sharpening instrument
tachlis, is any liquid involved in the sharpening?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: efflpetzel on January 11, 2014, 09:34:40 PM
What's the Halochas for driving a wife in labour to the hospital on shabbos?

e.g.  am i allowed to drive her when if theoretically i can call a cab?

anything else?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 11, 2014, 09:42:43 PM
Halacha is that one must use a goy and a shinuy wherever possible with a woman in labor.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: JustaHocker on January 11, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
What are your time constraints? Do you have time to wait around?
If time is of the essence, how do you plan to wait for a cab?
If you drive, you cannot turn off the car, park it, or close the doors after you arrive at the hospital or birthing center.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: efflpetzel on January 11, 2014, 11:30:58 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: moish on January 12, 2014, 07:21:05 AM
you should also have the cab number on speed dial and press with a shinui to minimize chillul shabbos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farfallen on January 12, 2014, 10:32:27 AM
Keep in mind that although halacha recommends shinuy and using a goy - "hatzolas nifoshos" always come first so never hesitate to be michalel shabbos if that is the best option.....

of course best thing is to ask your lor before so you are well prepared.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2014, 10:36:09 AM
Quote
סעיף א - יולדת היא כחולה שיש בו סכנה ומחללין עליה השבת לכל מה שצריכה, קוראין לא חכמה ממקום למקום, ומילדין (אותה) ומדליקין לה נר אפלו היא סומא, ומכל מקום בכל מה שיכולין לשנות משנין, כגון אם צריכים להביא לה כלי, מביאה לא חברתה תלוי בשערה, וכן כל כיוצא בזה.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2014, 11:24:52 AM
Whats the bottom line re E-INK re mechikas hashem?
(Applies to the nook noki and many tablets)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farfallen on January 12, 2014, 12:11:23 PM
With EInk you are changing not erasing - michika is erasing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2014, 12:14:53 PM
With EInk you are changing not erasing - michika is erasing.
waddaya mean changing? The ink was there, now its not. If that's not mechika what is?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farfallen on January 12, 2014, 12:27:54 PM
the ink is a tiny ball one half black and half white when there is an electrical pull it can switch from white to black creating a word and it will stay like that until another electric current changes the black to white. The ball is in the same place it is just turned....
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
the ink is a tiny ball one half black and half white when there is an electrical pull it can switch from white to black creating a word and it will stay like that until another electric current changes the black to white. The ball is in the same place it is just turned....
To clarify: The tiny "ball" contains black, negatively charged ink particles and also white positively charged particles.
When a negative charge is applied under the ball the back ink is repelled to the surface. To erase the ink on the surface a positive charge must be applied which then pushes white particles to the surface to replace the black ones.

This process is literally applying ink to a surface and subsequently removing said ink. AKA Mechika... No?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farfallen on January 12, 2014, 12:44:39 PM
can you go ahead and write a new word with the same ball? So then it is not a real ksivah or mechika.....

iow the ink never disappears it just changes places
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
can you go ahead and write a new word with the same ball? So then it is not a real ksivah or mechika.....

iow the ink never disappears it just changes places
Since when is the reusable ink a requirement for kesiva and mechika?
 [not to mention that theoretically this ink in the ball can be moved to a different location and can also be used to write any number of words. It contains real black particles that are attached to the screen location thereby forming a word}
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farfallen on January 12, 2014, 02:08:56 PM
If i take a roll of pennies and arrange them on the floor in Hashems name - can i them clean it up? What if i glued it to the floor? I think you are getting hung up on the word ink in EINK .
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
If i take a roll of pennies and arrange them on the floor in Hashems name - can i them clean it up? What if i glued it to the floor? I think you are getting hung up on the word ink in EINK .
yeah, if you glue a colored substance to paper it is essentially writing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: zandray35 on January 12, 2014, 06:27:14 PM
The shailo exists because the ink is permanent, even if the battery woyld die the ink would remain on the surface
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: zandray35 on January 12, 2014, 06:28:19 PM
The svorah lhatir is there was no ksiva proper rather a backwards ksiva like a printing press that u can remove the letters set in the press
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: farfallen on January 12, 2014, 07:09:21 PM
The shailo exists because people think  the ink is permanent, since even if the battery would die the ink would remain on the surface but in reality it is nothing more than an etch n sketch.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2014, 07:45:48 PM

It sounds like you questioning these facts?
Maybe google "e ink" first to get a better understanding of how the black charged particles are permanently attached to the surface.
Its basic physics. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Armadillo on January 13, 2014, 05:02:32 PM
Halacha is that one must use a goy and a shinuy wherever possible with a woman in labor.
-1
Many poskim hold by matters of pikuach nefesh davka to use a yid
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 13, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
-1
Many poskim hold by matters of pikuach nefesh davka to use a yid
Poskim say that in matters of a yoledes (which is also pikuach nefesh but on a lower level than a regular choleh sheyesh bo sakana) one must use a shinuy and a goy.


Are you sure they are talking about a yoledes or stam pikuach nefesh?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Dr Moose on January 13, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
-1
Many poskim hold by matters of pikuach nefesh davka to use a yid
if you have a choice between a frum or non-religious, you should use the frum because he has pikuach nefesh docheh shabbos. And the the non religious one doesn't have that heter because he'd be mechalel shabbos anyways
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Armadillo on January 13, 2014, 05:08:50 PM
What's the Halochas for driving a wife in labour to the hospital on shabbos?

e.g.  am i allowed to drive her when if theoretically i can call a cab?

anything else?
My Rebbe has done it on more than one occasion, I did it once. Practically speaking, it's probably easier to get away with in EY because they know you won't move it and will (hopefully) cooperate in bringing a goy to move it/turn it off. In America (and elsewhere) they'd probably tow your car (or steal it) - it probably depends on the area/ Jewish population density. Basically, you're going to want to know beforehand the setup and prepare accordingly.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Armadillo on January 13, 2014, 05:16:23 PM
Poskim say that in matters of a yoledes (which is also pikuach nefesh but on a lower level than a regular choleh sheyesh bo sakana) one must use a shinuy and a goy.


Are you sure they are talking about a yoledes or stam pikuach nefesh?
Yes, even yoledes. A yid has (more) chashivus for nefesh so it will be more of a pikuach.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Armadillo on January 13, 2014, 05:32:13 PM
Whats the bottom line re E-INK re mechikas hashem?
(Applies to the nook noki and many tablets)
I haven't read up on how it works exactly, but it would at minimum be the same as on an old palm pilot which I was told by a major posek that it's "k'en mechikas hasem" - which I took to mean not assur, but not a good idea
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on April 17, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
Re dropping a kli in the Mikva by tevilas keilim: ( http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17387.msg791654.msg#791654)
The Ramo paskens that tevilas kelim does not need kavana. A koton Need's supervision just to verify the tevila.

R' akiva iger (in 120) is mesupak whether one may make a brocho after the tevila. He references the Eshel Avrohom in 323:7, The case is: someone receiving a glass from a goy on Shabbos. Ramo says to  do a tevila by filling it up with water, so that the tevila is unrecognized. The MA comments that no brocho should be made, as this would make the tevila obvious. P"m discusses the option of making the brocho post facto. Interestingly, He basis the assumption that this is possible on the machlokes in y"d 200, if all tevilas are like tevilas ger and therefore the brocho is said post facto. (IMHO a big chiddush to stretch this to keilim) 

The biur halach, when discussing the MA in 323:7, suggests making a brocho while the kli is still (fully) submerged.
This implies that, while he does not mention the chiddush of the PM, he would be OK with making the brocho post facto if the tevila is still happening.

Bottom line, IMHO, it would come out, that if one drops a kli in the Mikva, the best suggestion is to leave it submerged and make the brocho.

This is just for discussion purposes, ask YLOR!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: Chaikel on April 18, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Yes, even yoledes. A yid has (more) chashivus for nefesh so it will be more of a pikuach.
Many poskim hold by a yoledes you don't get davka a yid, unless its an actual pikuach nefesh situation
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: zh cohen on April 18, 2014, 05:38:25 PM
Many poskim hold by a yoledes you don't get davka a yid, unless its an actual pikuach nefesh situation

+1

I know the Alter Rebbe writes in shulchan aruch to do everything possible through a goy. I'm pretty sure it's not his chiddush.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 18, 2014, 05:46:04 PM
Cue the joke with the guy who ordered a non-Jewish taxi driver...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 19, 2014, 05:47:14 PM
Is there a Halachic problem with regular yoga? Does all yoga incorporate Avodah Zarah unless it's specifically 'Kashered'?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 21, 2014, 08:48:53 AM
Is there a Halachic problem with regular yoga? Does all yoga incorporate Avodah Zarah unless it's specifically 'Kashered'?
Bump
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Emkay on May 21, 2014, 08:57:38 AM
Is there a Halachic problem with regular yoga? Does all yoga incorporate Avodah Zarah unless it's specifically 'Kashered'?
not an answer but an interesting read
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/23099/is-yoga-kosher#undefined
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on May 21, 2014, 09:04:19 AM
Bump
its a sheila of avoda Zara, unless there is a medical necessity I personally wouldn't even bother asking a LOR.

(According to tab mag. the lubavitch rebbe supposedly held that its totally ossur in all forms...if true you're SOL..)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 21, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
not an answer but an interesting read
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/23099/is-yoga-kosher#undefined
Thanks I believe I got my answer....

its a sheila of avoda Zara, unless there is a medical necessity I personally wouldn't even bother asking a LOR.

(According to tab mag. the lubavitch rebbe supposedly held that its totally ossur in all forms...if true you're SOL..)

I would like to look into that, I believe that The Lubavitcher Rebbe actually asked a Ba'al Teshuvah who was a former yoga instructor to try to develop some form of 'Kosher Yoga'.

ETA: Found it (http://portraitofaleader.blogspot.com/2007/10/needless-to-say-on-my-part-i-will-do.html). It's actually the same letter quoted in the above article, apparently taken out of context...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on June 02, 2014, 11:24:57 PM
Is the study of "financial accounting and reporting" tantamount to studying a science like medicine which is muttar on Shabbos; or would it be considered a business matter 'mischar' which is prohibited?


(I mean bedieved/instead of reading the paper. Not necessarily a formal study session..)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: sillypainter on June 02, 2014, 11:49:14 PM
Is the study of "financial accounting and reporting" tantamount to studying a science like medicine which is muttar on Shabbos; or would it be considered a business matter 'mischar' which is prohibited?


(I mean bedieved/instead of reading the paper. Not necessarily a formal study session..)

You know the answer. You're studying accounting which is your (future) job, not?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Saver2000 on June 02, 2014, 11:51:46 PM
You know the answer. You're studying accounting which is your (future) job, not?
Then why is medicine muttar? (its also the persons future job)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: sillypainter on June 03, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
Then why is medicine muttar? (its also the persons future job)

I don't think medicine for work is muttar. Just the science of medicine is.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Saver2000 on June 03, 2014, 12:15:15 AM
I don't think medicine for work is muttar. Just the science of medicine is.
Oh    :-[

I was basing my assumption in cbc's post which I guess I misunderstood.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on June 03, 2014, 12:20:16 AM
You know the answer. You're studying accounting which is your (future) job, not?
Technically it is to pass a test which is required by a future job..
But who said job or no job is what defines mischar?
Maybe accounting is a science, like medicine, which is permissible (probably) even if it is what you get paid to practice..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ckmk47 on June 03, 2014, 12:20:44 AM
To my knowledge, learning science on Shabbos is permitted.
Only you know how much of your studying is just for the test, and how much is knowledge.

Accounting is not considered a science.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on June 03, 2014, 12:21:45 AM
I don't think medicine for work is muttar. Just the science of medicine is.
Not sure about this.... Can source it?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on June 03, 2014, 12:23:30 AM


Accounting is not considered a science.
Its a body or rules, the issur is inyaney mischar. "Science" is not a requirement...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Saver2000 on June 03, 2014, 12:50:56 AM
@cbc, you said a factor is,  that it pertains to a future job. 

If you're doing the studying/taking the course as a hobby,  it would make it more muttar? (meaning no future "job",  but you plan on using the knowledge/skills for a volunteer job.)

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yoshi on June 24, 2014, 01:16:44 AM
PGGM ($200 airline credit) Does anyone know what Halacha says about it.
Also is it safe to assume that the higher ups in amex know about it, yet they haven't done anything about it. Could say that if not enough people know about it it's still beneficial since it attracts customers etc..
Thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: joey123 on June 24, 2014, 09:12:03 AM
Does anyone know if you are allowed to buy a factory refurbished blender? Is the machine the only thing that is refurbished? Has anyone asked about this before, or more importantly know the precise definition of refurbished in these cases.

TIA
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on June 24, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Does anyone know if you are allowed to buy a factory refurbished blender? Is the machine the only thing that is refurbished? Has anyone asked about this before, or more importantly know the precise definition of refurbished in these cases.

TIA
You could probably kasher it anyway...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on June 24, 2014, 10:04:29 AM
PGGM ($200 airline credit) Does anyone know what Halacha says about it.
Also is it safe to assume that the higher ups in amex know about it, yet they haven't done anything about it. Could say that if not enough people know about it it's still beneficial since it attracts customers etc..
Thanks
AYLOR.
In terms of the facts, I doubt the bolded part
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: joey123 on June 24, 2014, 10:08:17 AM
AYLOR.
In terms of the facts, I doubt the bolded part

I will ask my LOR. I was thinking of buying the Ninja Blender on the woot off. It's not such a big deal that I missed it--Amazon has the refurbished one for 6 more dollars.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on June 24, 2014, 10:12:58 AM
I will ask my LOR. I was thinking of buying the Ninja Blender on the woot off. It's not such a big deal that I missed it--Amazon has the refurbished one for 6 more dollars.
I wasn't responding to you...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yoshi on June 24, 2014, 11:40:35 AM
AYLOR.
In terms of the facts, I doubt the bolded part
I do plan on asking my LOR. I'm wanted to see if I can assume that amex knows about it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: joey123 on June 24, 2014, 03:39:39 PM
I wasn't responding to you...

Sorry
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: davidb on June 30, 2014, 06:22:40 PM
If I accept early shabbos, is the melacha that I do after wards de'oraisa or derabanan?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on June 30, 2014, 06:34:29 PM
If I accept early shabbos, is the melacha that I do after wards de'oraisa or derabanan?
I'm pretty sure that all melacha is d'rabanan until tzeis, no matter when you're mekabel shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: joey123 on June 30, 2014, 07:47:54 PM
If I accept early shabbos, is the melacha that I do after wards de'oraisa or derabanan?

It's a Machlokes Rishonim in the beginning of Arvei Pesachim as to whether Tosefes Shabbos is Drabnan or D'orayssa. IIRC, we pasken it's drabanan. Conseqeuntly, Melacha done during that time is only D'rabanan, and if someone does accept Shabbos, the Halacha allows for certain kulos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on June 30, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Different if the kahal said barchu
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on June 30, 2014, 10:02:27 PM
Different if the kahal said barchu

Question or statement?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: joey123 on June 30, 2014, 10:14:58 PM
Question or statement?

Regardless. The K'hal saying Barchu signals your acceptance of shabbos (see Mishna Berura). Nowadays, certain people have Kavana during the last paragraph of lecha dodi. However, this doesn't pertain to our discussion as the questioner was asking about the status after a person does accept upon himself Shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 01, 2014, 08:51:31 AM
Tosfos shabbos is a deorayso. Melacha is an Issur asseh.
Question whether this also affects those who self accept earlier than the mandated tosfos time: M'b implies that a tziburs acceptance is deorayso. R'A Eiger holds its deorayso even for a yochid..


Etc etc!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on July 01, 2014, 09:50:58 AM
If I accept early shabbos, is the melacha that I do after wards de'oraisa or derabanan?
Not sure why everyone is discussing tosefes shabbos. Does that somehow affect the nature of the issur melacha that applies after accepting shabbos? (That's an actual question, as in I don't know - just to preempt the person that says 'you don't know what you're talking about, of course it affects...')

Either way, every source I've heard or learned on the topic of what to do when you're stuck before shabbos indicates to me that the contemporary poskim hold that melacha is d'rabonon until after bein hasmashos. The example I'm thinking of is the fact that you can have a goy drive you (eg taxi) up to a half hour (different poskim say different amounts of time) after shkia if it's l'tzorech mitzvah (like getting home for shabbos). The heter is that it's a shvus d'svhus, which is obviously only true if it's considered melacha d'rabonon during that time. Now if we're talking up to 30 minutes after shkia, you're certainly past the time the khal says borchu when they make early shabbos, and depending on the shul, even when they make regular time.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 01, 2014, 09:59:16 AM
Not sure why everyone is discussing tosefes shabbos. Does that somehow affect the nature of the issur melacha that applies after accepting shabbos? (That's an actual question, as in I don't know - just to preempt the person that says 'you don't know what you're talking about, of course it affects...')


Yes, the gemara in Yuma learns out tosfes shabos and yom kippur from a posuk. The gemara explains that there is no kores but there would be an issur Asseh.





Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: clear thinker on July 01, 2014, 10:27:52 AM
Yes, the gemara in Yuma learns out tosfes shabos and yom kippur from a posuk. The gemara explains that there is no kores but there would be an issur Asseh.
but he was explaining that regardless of tosfes shaboos if a person accepts shabbos upon himself that alone is a problem.
think he's got avalid point
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on July 01, 2014, 10:35:28 AM
Yes, the gemara in Yuma learns out tosfes shabos and yom kippur from a posuk. The gemara explains that there is no kores but there would be an issur Asseh.
How does that fit with the psak about getting stuck before shabbos? It's hard to imagine that if I accept shabbos 30 minutes before shkia, that doing melacha during the 30 minutes before shabbos is d'oraysa while doing melacha during the 30 minutes after shkia is d'rabonan.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 01, 2014, 10:40:24 AM
Who told you melocho after shkia is d'rabanan?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 01, 2014, 10:57:19 AM
How does that fit with the psak about getting stuck before shabbos? It's hard to imagine that if I accept shabbos 30 minutes before shkia, that doing melacha during the 30 minutes before shabbos is d'oraysa while doing melacha during the 30 minutes after shkia is d'rabonan.
I was just saying that the concept of tosfos shabbos is mideorayso. (As usual the devil is in the details.)

Tosfos shabbos according to many may only be for two minutes before vaday layla....
FWIU Self acceptance is not necessarily full tosfos shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on July 01, 2014, 11:01:01 AM
Who told you melocho after shkia is d'rabanan?
I gave you my rationale above. If I'm wrong, just tell me which part is wrong and why, don't beat around the bush.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 01, 2014, 11:05:29 AM
I gave you my rationale above. If I'm wrong, just tell me which part is wrong and why, don't beat around the bush.
You are asking good, I have seen your specific question discussed, jus dont remember clearly the resolution...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on July 01, 2014, 11:13:35 AM
Just to make it explicit for Ergel, the Mechaber says it's mutar to tell a goy to light shabbos candles for you during bein hashmashos. I always assumed it's mutar because it's a shvus d'svhus (melacha during bein hashmashos is a shvus and amirah l'akum is a shvus). I can't find that explicitly anywhere, so I could be totally off here. If that's the case, just say so.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: clear thinker on July 01, 2014, 11:24:42 AM
Just to make it explicit for Ergel, the Mechaber says it's mutar to tell a goy to light shabbos candles for you during bein hashmashos. I always assumed it's mutar because it's a shvus d'svhus (melacha during bein hashmashos is a shvus and amirah l'akum is a shvus). I can't find that explicitly anywhere, so I could be totally off here. If that's the case, just say so.
I think u "are" right melacha after shekuah is a derabanan
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: joey123 on July 01, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
I was just saying that the concept of tosfos shabbos is mideorayso. (As usual the devil is in the details.)

Tosfos shabbos according to many may only be for two minutes before vaday layla....
FWIU Self acceptance is not necessarily full tosfos shabbos.

I will check it up later. There are two deos in Tosfos in the beginning of Arvei Pesachim.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 01, 2014, 12:39:04 PM
There seems to be a very fundamental misunderstanding here:

Bein hashmoshos is sofek shabbos, and therefore all melochos are a sofek chiuv skeila.

Chazal were not gozer certain gezeiros during bein hashmoshos. This is why amira leakum can be permitted in limited cases.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 01, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
I will check it up later. There are two deos in Tosfos in the beginning of Arvei Pesachim.
See M'b 261:19 Where he brings down the source that it is mideorayso. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 01, 2014, 12:43:30 PM
Even if tosfos shabbos is mideorayso, for many dinim like: Mila, nidda, matza, succa, sefira it is not considered night.



/Nowback to work.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 01, 2014, 12:47:14 PM
There seems to be a very fundamental misunderstanding here:

Bein hashmoshos is sofek shabbos, and therefore all melochos are a sofek chiuv skeila.

Chazal were not gozer certain gezeiros during bein hashmoshos. This is why amira leakum can be permitted in limited cases.
Yup.
Non-chasidim (and many chasidim as well) hold very shtark that shkia is the safek layla (or a din safek layla if you're a brisker) midaoraysa.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 01, 2014, 06:16:51 PM
There seems to be a very fundamental misunderstanding here:

Bein hashmoshos is sofek shabbos, and therefore all melochos are a sofek chiuv skeila.

Chazal were not gozer certain gezeiros during bein hashmoshos. This is why amira leakum can be permitted in limited cases.
and even those cannot be done after kabolas shabbos of the tzibur and according to MB 342:1 even if by a yachid. Therefore the MB says that this halacha will only apply in a place where there is no tzibur.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: davidb on July 05, 2014, 10:39:12 PM

See M'b 261:19 Where he brings down the source that it is mideorayso.
this is only after shkiah I want to know about before shkiah
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 06, 2014, 07:51:00 PM
What does halocha say regarding:

a) Can one do what 6 yidden allegedly did in Israel?
b) what if anything should we do about it?

Both bizmaneinu, and at a time when beis din smuchim has power in eretz yisroel.

Please keep this to halocha and not involve any emotion.

ETA: Please give halachic sources.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 06, 2014, 08:35:01 PM
What does halocha say regarding:

a) Can one do what 6 yidden allegedly did in Israel?
b) what if anything should we do about it?

Both bizmaneinu, and at a time when beis din smuchim has power in eretz yisroel.

Please keep this to halocha and not involve any emotion.
a) you serious??


(I mean halacha)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 06, 2014, 08:40:36 PM
I asked a question - I did not make a statement. Please provide sources.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 06, 2014, 08:49:30 PM
I asked a question - I did not make a statement. Please provide sources.
The question implies that you have a tzad the murdering a goy would be permitted. :o
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 06, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
You did not provide a source.

In addition can you provide a source for this:

"These people are Rodfim and should be hung in the town square. Hashem yishmereinu."
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 06, 2014, 08:53:20 PM
What does halocha say regarding:

a) Can one do what 6 yidden allegedly did in Israel?
b) what if anything should we do about it?

Both bizmaneinu, and at a time when beis din smuchim has power in eretz yisroel.

Please keep this to halocha and not involve any emotion.
a) Assur
b) Punish them to the full extent of the law.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 06, 2014, 08:57:29 PM
Please provide a source, and what is the full extent of the law?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 06, 2014, 08:59:32 PM
Please provide a source, and what is the full extent of the law?
A source that killing is Assur? You for real? :o
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 06, 2014, 09:29:02 PM
Well, for example, lo tirtzach cannot be referring to this situation. We know that all aseres hadibros are issurim for which one is chayav misah - that's how we know lo tignov refers to kidnapping and not common theft. We also know, al pi halochah, that retzichah of an akum is not chayav misah, so i hope you did not mean that when you say "to the full extent of the law".
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 06, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
Well, for example, lo tirtzach cannot be referring to this situation. We know that all aseres hadibros are issurim for which one is chayav misah - that's how we know lo tignov refers to kidnapping and not common theft. We also know, al pi halochah, that retzichah of an akum is not chayav misah, so i hope you did not mean that when you say "to the full extent of the law".
No. I meant the Israeli law.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 06, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Well, for example, lo tirtzach cannot be referring to this situation. We know that all aseres hadibros are issurim for which one is chayav misah - that's how we know lo tignov refers to kidnapping and not common theft. We also know, al pi halochah, that retzichah of an akum is not chayav misah, so i hope you did not mean that when you say "to the full extent of the law".
1+1=9999999999999999?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 06, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Please provide a source, and what is the full extent of the law?
Don't have the full sources of hand but its silly to pose such a question. Just because they never taught hilchos retzichas akum in yeshiva it doesn't mean that it might be A OK.
 If triggering a third intifada, which is being mafkir Yisroel lemisa is not a rodef that beis din would drown in the mikva for, I don't know what is!

For now I'll leave you with that at minimum burning a child alive is tzar balei chayim. Just so you dont get any ideas ;)
#cant believe this
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 06, 2014, 11:04:59 PM
No. I meant the Israeli law.

Israeli law provides for the death penalty.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 06, 2014, 11:16:35 PM
Don't have the full sources of hand but its silly to pose such a question. Just because they never taught hilchos retzichas akum in yeshiva it doesn't mean that it might be A OK.
 If triggering a third intifada, which is being mafkir Yisroel lemisa is not a rodef that beis din would drown in the mikva for, I don't know what is!

For now I'll leave you with that at minimum burning a child alive is tzar balei chayim. Just so you dont get any ideas ;)
#cant believe this

a) he's not a child lihalocha.
b)Let's say that the israeli government would deal with an intifada with extremely harsh meathods - i.e. they eliminated anyone that would attempt harm to any jew, and would not worry at all about collateral damages, would many jews actually die? Would it then be a simple case of mafkir yisroel l'misah?
c) in eretz yisroel, a ger toshav is accepted only if they agree to all 7 bnei noach. Therefore any that would participate in this potential 3rd intifada are not acceptable as a ger toishav at a minimum, and would certainly be considered enemies of bnei yisroel. How were they dealt with when it was yad yisroel al ha'elyonah?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
Timche es zecher Almalek. They were mikayem a mitzvah
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on July 07, 2014, 04:19:47 PM

Timche es zecher Almalek. They were mikayem a mitzvah

How do you know he was an Amoleiki?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2014, 04:21:23 PM
How do you know he was an Amoleiki?
Chazaka and Roiv
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on July 07, 2014, 04:23:51 PM

Chazaka and Roiv

So what's your heter to leave the others alive?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2014, 04:34:43 PM
So what's your heter to leave the others alive?
That is a much better question
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 07, 2014, 04:42:06 PM
That is a much better question
Better yet, who said it even applies bizman hazeh?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on July 07, 2014, 04:50:13 PM
Chazaka and Roiv
Can we come back to this for a second? How do chazaka and roiv determine that someone is an amaleki?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 07, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Can we come back to this for a second? How do chazaka and roiv determine that someone is an amaleki?
I think your sarcasm detector needs work
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
I think your sarcasm detector needs work
Only feed trolls with troll food
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on July 07, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
Only feed trolls with troll food
Sorry, your comment came out on a separate page so I didn't realize you were responding to the prior comment.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: joeberg on July 07, 2014, 05:45:07 PM
Does this discussion go under Halocha Shailos or treiffa I mean teiffa Questions. ;) :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 08, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
@boruch. Carefully read the Hebrew KK re MS, where they write about those who increase sinas Yisroel... :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ckmk47 on July 08, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
Israeli law provides for the death penalty.
incorrect. for civilian killings.

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=6889
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Armadillo on July 08, 2014, 09:12:07 PM
That is a much better question
+1 :D
(As I overheard the other day "instead of cutting off water and electric to Gaza, we should connect the two...")
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Buruch on July 09, 2014, 12:24:05 AM
@boruch. Carefully read the Hebrew KK re MS, where they write about those who increase sinas Yisroel... :)

I'm not familiar with that site. But the same could be said about any idf soldier who eliminates a terrorist - it "causes" more sinas yisroel. What about all the shoftim? you think their wars/killing caused the plishtim to love us more?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 11, 2014, 01:43:47 PM
Just got a 1957 dollar bill as change. According to Google it's worth about $2, is it considered Ona'ah if I don't give it back?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 11, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
Just got a 1957 dollar bill as change. According to Google it's worth about $2, is it considered Ona'ah if I don't give it back?
a yid?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 11, 2014, 01:47:44 PM
a yid?
Where else would I not use a CC for less than $10? :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 11, 2014, 02:34:11 PM
@moishebatchy
Taking the Thailand amira la'akum issue to the appropriate thread. This post is meant with the pure desire to reach amisa shel torah, not a personal attack. Please take it as such and respond in kind.

I'm a little confused, it is clear in shulchan aruch that there are two issurim involved in amira la'akum:
1. the tzavaa
2. hana'ah mimleches goy hanaaseh bishvil yisroel
Remiza only removes issue #1. The heter of remiza only exists by things like turning off a light where there is no "hanaah" from the action of the goy, as it's just a removal of light. For anything where there is hanaah mimleches goy, remiza doesn't help as it's not only the tzavaah which is assur.
Your rav is saying it's muttar to do amira laakum on a d'oraisa bmakom tzorech? Or is there another aspect that I am missing?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2014, 02:44:14 PM
Many poskim including R Sholomo Zalman hold that electricity is derbanen. As such Amira Lakum is mutter bemakom mitza/oineg shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on July 11, 2014, 04:45:04 PM
Better yet, who said it even applies bizman hazeh?
See ספר מצות קצר from the חפץ חיים.  I believe it is the last מצות עשה.  I was actually quite surprised that he counts it in his short list of מצות עשה נוגע בזה״ז.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 11, 2014, 04:53:32 PM
Many poskim including R Sholomo Zalman hold that electricity is derbanen. As such Amira Lakum is mutter bemakom mitza/oineg shabbos.
Agreed that most poskim hold electricity is only derabanan. However, I don't believe that explains this psak
1. If in fact elevators only constitute an issur derabanan it should be mutar without remiza (never heard by amira la'akum on a derabanan bamakom oneg shabbos that lechatchila it should be done with remiza).
2. I'm not 100% familiar with how elevators work, but I assume they work similar to a car with combustion, etc. and therefore would be doraisa?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2014, 05:44:05 PM
Agreed that most poskim hold electricity is only derabanan. However, I don't believe that explains this psak
1. If in fact elevators only constitute an issur derabanan it should be mutar without remiza (never heard by amira la'akum on a derabanan bamakom oneg shabbos that lechatchila it should be done with remiza).
2. I'm not 100% familiar with how elevators work, but I assume they work similar to a car with combustion, etc. and therefore would be doraisa?
I don't know about remiza.

Elevators can work in several different ways. If an elevator worked like a car, you'd need to take it to a gas station, no?

The weight issues are separate and similar to shabbos elevators.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Vosizderneias on July 11, 2014, 07:41:31 PM
Made noodles in fleishig pot- not ben yoma. Can noodles be eaten on a plate with cold cheese?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 11, 2014, 07:48:47 PM
Made noodles in fleishig pot- not ben yoma. Can noodles be eaten on a plate with cold cheese?
classic Nat bar Nat.

But I'm not a posek!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on July 12, 2014, 10:10:23 PM

Made noodles in fleishig pot- not ben yoma. Can noodles be eaten on a plate with cold cheese?
classic Nat bar Nat.

But I'm not a posek!
It is fine,I believe, but it's not a classic nat bar nat since it was through bishul and ramah is machmir by bishul. But since it is not Ben yoma it's fine. ( although I think the maharshal is macmir)
Not a posek either but about to go for my smicha test on bv"c.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 12, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
It is fine,I believe, but it's not a classic nat bar nat since it was through bishul and ramah is machmir by bishul. But since it is not Ben yoma it's fine. ( although I think the maharshal is macmir)
Not a posek either but about to go for my smicha test on bv"c.
Correct. The Ramo is machmir by bishul.
Correct, eino Ben yomo even the Ramo is matir. The gaon is matir totally others are only matir with pegam after the fact, which means after the noodles were cooked.

Original comment was written בלי עיון כלל it is indeed the classic case of the gemora according to most reshonim though...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on July 12, 2014, 10:30:57 PM

Correct. The Ramo is machmir by bishul.
Correct, eino Ben yomo even the Ramo is matir. The gaon is matir with pegam only after the fact, which means after the noodles were cooked.

Original comment was written בלי עיון כלל
You sure the gaon is only matir if you already cooked? I thought he says even l"chatchilah you can cook in non Ben yoma, bc the whole reason we don't allow non Ben yoma l"chatchilah (by non nat bar nat) is a gezera.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 12, 2014, 10:33:10 PM
You sure the gaon is only matir if you already cooked? I thought he says even l"chatchilah you can cook in non Ben yoma, bc the whole reason we don't allow non Ben yoma l"chatchilah (by non nat bar nat) is a gezera.
Sorry see edited post. Others are more machmir
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on July 12, 2014, 10:35:13 PM

Sorry see edited post. Others are more machmir
Got it, just sharpening up my skills for my bichena ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 12, 2014, 10:36:55 PM
Got it, just sharpening up my skills for my bichena ;)
Good for you! I'm far from test worthy :-[
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on July 12, 2014, 10:40:29 PM

Good for you! I'm far from test worthy :-[
you seemed pretty knowledgable
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 12, 2014, 10:47:27 PM
you seemed pretty knowledgable
nah, learned it a couple of years ago.. Just looked it up quickly to refresh.
Never took the tests and haven't got round to doing chazara properly ... Am haratzus takes time.. I'm almost there :-\
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Vosizderneias on July 13, 2014, 01:51:34 AM
My local rabbi agrees with yall. Shkoyach
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 12, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
Are you allowed to order from Amazon on Thursday with 2 day shipping if the guaranteed delivery date is Shabbos?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Joe4007 on September 12, 2014, 04:29:27 PM
Are you allowed to order from Amazon on Thursday with 2 day shipping if the guaranteed delivery date is Shabbos?
Can't they deliver it on Friday?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 12, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
Does that count?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 12, 2014, 06:21:07 PM
Can't they deliver it on Friday?
they often do
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Joe4007 on September 12, 2014, 06:48:57 PM
Does that count?
I'm not a Dayen, but AFAIK if you don't ask for something to be specifically done on Shabbos it shouldn't be a problem. Please CMIIW.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 23, 2014, 08:38:02 PM
What's the bottom line with a pruzbal? If somebody owes me money, should I do something? What/how Linky?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on September 23, 2014, 08:40:48 PM
I saw from Rav Chaim Kanievsky that one should do a pruzbul but it can be bapeh and it need not be a BD chashuv
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 23, 2014, 08:42:33 PM
I saw from Rav Chaim Kanievsky that one should do a pruzbul but it can be bapeh and it need not be a BD chashuv
In Chabad we do it with the same Beis Din we use for Hataras Nedarim...

ETA: Alternatively, nowadays everything can be done online....
http://www.chabad.org/tools/feedback_cdo/aid/5212/jewish/Fill-Out-a-Pruzbul.htm
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on September 23, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
Quote
Though the pruzbul is done on the eve of the Rosh Hashanah preceding the Shemittah year, according to many halachic authorities one should execute another pruzbul one year later, on the last day of the Shemittah (considering that the actual annulment of all debts transpires on that date).
Weird that they present this year as necessary and next year as a chumrah. What happens to loans made over the course of the next year?

Quote
The pruzbul can be done orally before three adult men who constitute a court. One approaches this “court” and states that he or she is transferring to them all debts which may be owed to him or her, thus making them collectable.
Weird that they say it's lechatchila to do all pruzbul orally (the rav chaim I quoted above was only a kula for the beginning of the year)


In Chabad we do it with the same Beis Din we use for Hataras Nedarim...

ETA: Alternatively, nowadays everything can be done online....
http://www.chabad.org/tools/feedback_cdo/aid/5212/jewish/Fill-Out-a-Pruzbul.htm
Quote
If this option is not available to you, fill out the form below before early afternoon of Wednesday, September 24, 2014.
The website itself says to only do online if you can't do it offline
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 23, 2014, 11:09:57 PM
Weird that they present this year as necessary and next year as a chumrah. What happens to loans made over the course of the next year?
Its a sheila if its meshamet at the beginning or end. What's weird?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on September 23, 2014, 11:23:08 PM
It's mefurash in shas that it's meshametes besofah.
There is a machlokes rishonim anyways when to write a pruzbul (despite that everyone agrees it's meshametes besofah. Rosh holds that the issur lo yigos starts at beginning). it is paskened in shulchan aruch that we do it at end of shmitah. The shulchan aruch harav says lechatchila to be machmir to do one at the beginning of shmitah as well
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2014, 09:47:43 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/28/atebu7u4.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/28/sazeteda.jpg)Can one use weeping willow for aravos?
In R sterns book it says no because it has Pegimos gasos (really?)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 27, 2014, 10:22:41 PM
Can one use weeping willow for aravos?
In R sterns book it says no because it has Pegimos gasos (really?)

Pretty sure that is correct.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2014, 10:35:44 PM
Can one use weeping willow for aravos?

In R sterns book it says no because it has Pegimos gasos (really?)

I grew up with 2 huge weeping willows in the yard in Monsey. I remember being told that we shouldn't use them and never did, butthere were some who I saw using them. Don't remember a clear reason and vaguely remember not really being satisfied with what I was told
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2014, 10:48:12 PM
I grew up with 2 huge weeping willows in the yard in Monsey. I remember being told that we shouldn't use them and never did, butthere were some who I saw using them. Don't remember a clear reason and vaguely remember not really being satisfied with what I was told
A possibility: The weeping willow branches tend to weep downward. This would be a problem if your normal aravos were facing down..
Also, in R Adas's book, he says that if a regular arava, (not a weeping willow) the leaves are drooping downward, it would be possul according to the chazon ish [because it is not kederech gediloso.(?)]

What would you say about a WW, the leaves and the actual bad tend to weep downward.. But one can argue that it is indeed derech gediloso.

AFAIK the pegimos are not that bad; IMHO they are definitely comparable to the pegimos pictured in R Adas's book that "R Chaim K said are fine"...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: MC on September 30, 2014, 02:37:17 PM
Does making up a story to get a friend to a certain place for a surprise proposal count as lying l'sheim shalom bayis?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on September 30, 2014, 03:33:27 PM
Does making up a story to get a friend to a certain place for a surprise proposal count as lying l'sheim shalom bayis?
No IMHO
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 30, 2014, 03:36:01 PM
No IMHO
why not?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on September 30, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
why not?
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on September 30, 2014, 10:47:53 PM
why not?
#1 Shulem bayis is between husband and wife.
#2 A lie for shulem is allowed when otherwise the shulem will be disturbed.
#3 Even to prevent disturbance of shulem you may only lie if there's no other option.

Again, I wrote IMHO, I might be wrong.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 01, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
Can I be meishiv mipnei hakovod in mid of asher yatzar or birkas hamazon?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on October 01, 2014, 05:53:59 PM
Can I be meishiv mipnei hakovod in mid of asher yatzar or birkas hamazon?
iinm birkas hamazon has din like shmone esrai
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 01, 2014, 05:56:31 PM
iinm birkas hamazon has din like shmone esrai
I think that's only the first Brachah.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on October 01, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
I think that's only the first Brachah.
possible, but in 183.8 and mishna berura it does not differentiate.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 01, 2014, 07:21:13 PM
possible, but in 183.8 and mishna berura it does not differentiate.
and asher yatzar?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on October 01, 2014, 07:35:37 PM
and asher yatzar?
don't remember specifically, but according to the training brought by mishna berura to differentiate between bhmz and shema it should be like shema
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ah on October 02, 2014, 11:07:45 PM
if i give $500 to tzedakah on my arrival card, does it count that i gave the whole $500? would get 2.2 cpd back
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 02, 2014, 11:55:45 PM
if i give $500 to tzedakah on my arrival card, does it count that i gave the whole $500? would get 2.2 cpd back
How about if you gave it on an Amex like the SPG where the points can be worth that much? I don't see why not although I don't claim to be a rav.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ah on October 02, 2014, 11:58:28 PM
How about if you gave it on an Amex like the SPG where the points can be worth that much? I don't see why not although I don't claim to be a rav.
was thinking that but really no difference...it's considered miles on arrival as well, just cashes in differently
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Joe4007 on October 03, 2014, 01:18:02 AM
if i give $500 to tzedakah on my arrival card, does it count that i gave the whole $500? would get 2.2 cpd back
The way I see it (and I'm no Rav either...) it's like getting a door prize at a charity event or something like that. Would you deduct that value from tzadaka? Don't think so.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: zh cohen on October 03, 2014, 09:18:54 AM
The way I see it (and I'm no Rav either...) it's like getting a door prize at a charity event or something like that. Would you deduct that value from tzadaka? Don't think so.

I've heard that some Rabbonim say that if you use Maaser for a Chinese auction and then you win, the prize has to go to tzedakah.

I didn't hear this directly from a rabbi, so take it for what it's worth.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on October 03, 2014, 10:17:07 AM
I've heard that some Rabbonim say that if you use Maaser for a Chinese auction and then you win, the prize has to go to tzedakah.

I didn't hear this directly from a rabbi, so take it for what it's worth.
i would think to take mayser on the prize
in terms of miles, why not just donate mayser on the miles/cash back?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on October 06, 2014, 11:03:52 AM
i would think to take mayser on the prize
in terms of miles, why not just donate mayser on the miles/cash back?
+1 to the first statement. But therein lies the rub. If the reason you don't normally give maaser on your miles is that you look at it as a rebate on your purchases (there was a nice long thread on that topic a while back too), then here it's a rebate on your maaser, and therefore the miles themselves should already be considered maaser.

This is yet another reason to give tzedaka in cash or check wherever possible (the other being that the tzedaka is usually paying fees for cc processing, meaning they take in less overall). I certainly use cc for tzedaka sometimes, but I've been trying to do as much of it by cash/check as I can.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 06, 2014, 01:11:54 PM
Netilas yodayim with lime flavored seltzer?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 01:31:14 PM
IIRC You can use any Mashkeh for Netilas Yadayim except for wine.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 14, 2014, 11:06:59 AM
Those following the Ariza"l for Na'anuim (a.k.a. Minhag Chabad. a.k.a. right, left, forward, up, down, back). How would you do it in a location that doesn't face east for Davening (e.g. Far East, Australia etc.)? Do you turn around to face east for the Na'anuim or do you face the front of the Shul and shake to the appropriate direction?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Crazy tools on October 15, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
Is there any mekor to putting "geklaped hoshanos" on top of the Aron Kodesh?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 15, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
Is there any mekor to putting "geklaped hoshanos" on top of the Aron Kodesh?
shvach..Some say it is a bizayon..

 There is though a mekor to keep them for shemira in the home or while traveling.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 07:26:08 AM
If Shabbos is ט״ו חשון, does that mean Motzai Shabbos will be too late for Kiddush Levana?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 05, 2014, 07:40:55 AM
If Shabbos is ט״ו חשון, does that mean Motzai Shabbos will be too late for Kiddush Levana?
That depends on when the Molad was.

In any case cutting it so close in the winter isn't smart. If you have a chance this week take it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 05, 2014, 08:05:42 AM
If Shabbos is ט״ו חשון, does that mean Motzai Shabbos will be too late for Kiddush Levana?
Dunno but we did it sun night..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 08:19:11 AM
That depends on when the Molad was.

In any case cutting it so close in the winter isn't smart. If you have a chance this week take it.
Oh I thought it was always a certain date of the month, thanks.

Yeah, last Motzai Shab was cloudy, so they didn't do it.

True point.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 05, 2014, 08:45:13 AM
If Shabbos is ט״ו חשון, does that mean Motzai Shabbos will be too late for Kiddush Levana?
yes. The molad is before Rosh chodesh.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on November 05, 2014, 08:50:36 AM
Oh I thought it was always a certain date of the month, thanks.

Yeah, last Motzai Shab was cloudy, so they didn't do it.

True point.
If you're in NY don't count on seeing a moon motzei shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: landz124 on November 09, 2014, 12:30:02 PM
How to toivel a Panini maker ??
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 09, 2014, 12:45:55 PM
How to toivel a Panini maker ??
Many different Shitos. You'll have to ask your LOR on this one..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 09, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
How to toivel a Panini maker ??
what is the question? How to do it or if it needs? If the question is how to do it then just dunk the whole thing including the wire into the water and let dry for a week before using.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 09, 2014, 04:25:11 PM
what is the question? How to do it or if it needs? If the question is how to do it then just dunk the whole thing including the wire into the water and let dry for a week before using.
I don't think u need to be tovel the wire but INALOR
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 09, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
if you need to tovel the casing you need o tovel the wire. According to Reb Moshe, the casing in a seperate keli, so you only need to dunk the grilling keli, not the electrical housing keli. (YD 1:57)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: landz124 on November 09, 2014, 04:42:51 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 09, 2014, 06:10:25 PM
if you need to tovel the casing you need o tovel the wire. According to Reb Moshe, the casing in a seperate keli, so you only need to dunk the grilling keli, not the electrical housing keli. (YD 1:57)
many poskim argue on R' Moshe about this.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 09, 2014, 06:54:01 PM
many poskim argue on R' Moshe about this.
That's why I quoted him.  Feel free to quote others.  But if you argue than you have to tovel the cord too
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 09, 2014, 07:03:57 PM
what is the question? How to do it or if it needs? If the question is how to do it then just dunk the whole thing including the wire into the water and let dry for a week before using.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ah on November 19, 2014, 06:27:21 PM
If someone uses a restroom with gloves on, must he then remove his gloves and wash his perfectly clean hands before saying asher yatzar?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 19, 2014, 10:21:47 PM
If someone uses a restroom with gloves on, must he then remove his gloves and wash his perfectly clean hands before saying asher yatzar?
one must wash his hands even if he did not use the bathroom due to the ruach ra. Presumably a glove would not be better.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on November 26, 2014, 09:42:31 PM
Can you heat up dairy equipment food in a pareve pot lechatchilah without effecting the pareve status of the pot?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on November 26, 2014, 10:07:01 PM
Can you heat up dairy equipment food in a pareve pot lechatchilah without effecting the pareve status of the pot?
if you are referring to a parve product cooked in a dairy pot with no actual dairy then you have no problem bec. the most you'll ever have is 3 n"t's which even the rem"a agrees to.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on November 26, 2014, 10:33:18 PM
Thanks I could not find it mefurash anywhere
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Talmid Muvhak on November 26, 2014, 10:35:36 PM
are the DE equipment used aino ben yomo?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on November 26, 2014, 10:37:27 PM
are the DE equipment used aino ben yomo?
it shouldnt mater you still have at least 3 n"t's before any meat.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on November 26, 2014, 10:39:54 PM
as a general rule anything marked DE should be assumed to a ben yomo. there are even those in the kashrus field that will tell you based on experience that many times there is actual be'en.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 26, 2014, 11:22:59 PM
Thanks I could not find it mefurash anywhere
YD 95:2 rma
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 26, 2014, 11:26:19 PM
are the DE equipment used aino ben yomo?


as a general rule anything marked DE should be assumed to a ben yomo. there are even those in the kashrus field that will tell you based on experience that many times there is actual be'en.
Although there is a rule that stam keilim einam bnei yoman the Noda Biyehuda writes that in a setting where they are used over and over again each day such as a coffee house one cannot make such an assumption. In general, factories are not in the habit of leaving their equipment idle.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on November 26, 2014, 11:59:19 PM
Although there is a rule that stam keilim einam bnei yoman the Noda Biyehuda writes that in a setting where they are used over and over again each day such as a coffee house one cannot make such an assumption. In general, factories are not in the habit of leaving their equipment idle.
+100 I've seen factories that operate 24/7
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Armadillo on December 01, 2014, 05:33:27 AM
as a general rule anything marked DE should be assumed to a ben yomo. there are even those in the kashrus field that will tell you based on experience that many times there is actual be'en.
Sometimes I wonder if people know what bitul is. If it's not an actual ingredient it can't have significance.
Agav, I know of a cocoa plant that labels DE even though it shares no eqipment. They store dairy in a locked room on the other side of the factory and are paranoid of a lawsuit from someone allergic to dairy.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on December 01, 2014, 09:00:33 AM
Sometimes I wonder if people know what bitul is. If it's not an actual ingredient it can't have significance.
Agav, I know of a cocoa plant that labels DE even though it shares no eqipment. They store dairy in a locked room on the other side of the factory and are paranoid of a lawsuit from someone allergic to dairy.
do you know what processing agents are? You can have dairy or treif processing agents (e.g.: lard as a release agent) and it doesn't even have to be listed as an ingredient. Also, ta'am also needs 60 for bitul. As for your last point Oreo cookies made in several plants are 100 percent parve yet still listed as dairy
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 01, 2014, 09:03:16 AM
As for your last point Oreo cookies made in several plants are 100 percent parve yet still listed as dairy
+1
call up the OU they will tell you that
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yuneeq on December 01, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
it shouldnt mater you still have at least 3 n"t's before any meat.

Specify the 3 n"t's, because as you say just a post later

there are even those in the kashrus field that will tell you based on experience that many times there is actual be'en.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Armadillo on December 01, 2014, 02:45:53 PM
do you know what processing agents are? You can have dairy or treif processing agents (e.g.: lard as a release agent) and it doesn't even have to be listed as an ingredient. Also, ta'am also needs 60 for bitul. As for your last point Oreo cookies made in several plants are 100 percent parve yet still listed as dairy
I was (mostly) referring to the ben yomo comment - if it was ben yomo of not kosher it wouldn't be kosher, ben yomo dairy doesn't make it treif (b'mchilas kvod shitas Chabad) Even when there's b'en it's easy to find out if it's a processing/stabilizing ingredient - otherwise battul.
And I don't know about oreos, but at this cocoa plant the mashgiach who was there told me the 'D' designation was the company's initiative, not the rav hamachshir
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on December 03, 2014, 10:08:49 AM
Can you heat up dairy equipment food in a pareve pot lechatchilah without effecting the pareve status of the pot?
I was just doing chazarah and realized that you could even heat it in a fleshing pot according to the rem"a
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on December 03, 2014, 10:27:27 AM

I was just doing chazarah and realized that you could even heat it in a fleshing pot according to the rem"a
Not necessarily, according to the shach's understanding of the rem"a in sif 3, it may be a problem. Acc toThe shach the rema hold that you can't do iruy from milk kli to meat kli. He says that what the rema meant in beis when he said you can put something cooked in milk kli into Meat kli is only without iruy.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on December 03, 2014, 10:44:36 AM

Although there is a rule that stam keilim einam bnei yoman the Noda Biyehuda writes that in a setting where they are used over and over again each day such as a coffee house one cannot make such an assumption. In general, factories are not in the habit of leaving their equipment idle.
Very interesting, where can I find this Noda Biyehudah?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on December 03, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Not necessarily, according to the shach's understanding of the rem"a in sif 3, it may be a problem. Acc toThe shach the rema hold that you can't do iruy from milk kli to meat kli. He says that what the rema meant in beis when he said you can put something cooked in milk kli into Meat kli is only without iruy.
based on the above conversation he clearly wasn't talking about iruy
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on December 03, 2014, 12:27:27 PM

based on the above conversation he clearly wasn't talking about iruy
He was talking about cooking which is worse. I only brought up iruy bc that's how the shach is,m'chalek between what the rema says in sif 2 &3
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on December 03, 2014, 12:50:49 PM
He was talking about cooking which is worse. I only brought up iruy bc that's how the shach is,m'chalek between what the rema says in sif 2 &3
the eruy the shach is talking about is from kli basar to kli chalav.  He clearly doesn't have access to the kli chalav from the plant
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on December 03, 2014, 01:19:52 PM

the eruy the shach is talking about is from kli basar to kli chalav.  He clearly doesn't have access to the kli chalav from the plant
and why is that different, the taz is michalek like you but that's a big chiddush and the shach clearly doesn't agree.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 03, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
Very interesting, where can I find this Noda Biyehudah?
iirc out is brought in PT
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on December 03, 2014, 01:32:16 PM
and why is that different, the taz is michalek like you but that's a big chiddush and the shach clearly doesn't agree.
he asked if he can heat up de food.that implies the food is currently cold.  But even if he already heated in a parve pot even the shach would agree that there is no problem simply bef. you have 3 n"t's
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: cubicles on December 03, 2014, 01:46:56 PM
intresting shaila:

 a store took amex cc last week to charge it on sbs wrote down all info on a sheet and lost the sheet and found it Sunday morning...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on December 03, 2014, 01:52:16 PM

he asked if he can heat up de food.that implies the food is currently cold.  But even if he already heated in a parve pot even the shach would agree that there is no problem simply bef. you have 3 n"t's
I'm not fully following you here. Didn't you say that according to the rema it would be fine to heat the dairy equipment Food up in a meat kli? The shach clearly says this is not true, the only time that it's not an issue is if the food is not hot, (either at the time you put it in the kli our after). He says this to explain the rem"a that says later you can't pour from milk kli to meat kli, even though it's 3nat
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 03, 2014, 06:41:12 PM
intresting shaila:

 a store took amex cc last week to charge it on sbs wrote down all info on a sheet and lost the sheet and found it Sunday morning...
The paper isn't shaimos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 03, 2014, 06:43:03 PM
Very interesting, where can I find this Noda Biyehudah?
Kama 36
It it's mentioned by PT YD 122:4 and quoted by the Yad Efraim there
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on December 03, 2014, 06:54:56 PM
I'm not fully following you here. Didn't you say that according to the rema it would be fine to heat the dairy equipment Food up in a meat kli? The shach clearly says this is not true, the only time that it's not an issue is if the food is not hot, (either at the time you put it in the kli our after). He says this to explain the rem"a that says later you can't pour from milk kli to meat kli, even though it's 3nat
1. The shach himself is maikel.  He asking a stira in the rem"a 2. The shach clearly is asking from the rem"a by iruy mkli chalav lkli basar 3. As for an answer to the stira see pm"g which would limit the original question to a kli chalav and not a parve kli.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 03, 2014, 06:55:11 PM
I'm not fully following you here. Didn't you say that according to the rema it would be fine to heat the dairy equipment Food up in a meat kli? The shach clearly says this is not true, the only time that it's not an issue is if the food is not hot, (either at the time you put it in the kli our after). He says this to explain the rem"a that says later you can't pour from milk kli to meat kli, even though it's 3nat
IIRC that us only when it is both keilim at the same time
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on December 03, 2014, 07:43:13 PM

1. The shach himself is maikel.  He asking a stira in the rem"a 2. The shach clearly is asking from the rem"a by iruy mkli chalav lkli basar 3. As for an answer to the stira see pm"g which would limit the original question to a kli chalav and not a parve kli.
IIRC that us only when it is both keilim at the same time
It seems like I understood the shach different than the 2 if you. Guess I gotta go learn it again, but from what I recall:
2. I agree he is asking from iruy but he doesn't learn like the taz in sif 3 that iruy makes it like the case of yorah choleves, hence he's disagreement with the rema, the reason he holds the rem"a assurs in that case it's bc it's Nat, bar Nat lisur.
3. The shach himself answers the stirah, that in sif 2 the rem"a wasnot taking about iruy,
As for what the shach himself holds, I recall that he is macmer like the mharshal. But we are discussing the rem"a
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 03, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
It seems like I understood the shach different than the 2 if you. Guess I gotta go learn it again, but from what I recall:
2. I agree he is asking from iruy but he doesn't learn like the taz in sif 3 that iruy makes it like the case of yorah choleves, hence he's disagreement with the rema, the reason he holds the rem"a assurs in that case it's bc it's Nat, bar Nat lisur.
3. The shach himself answers the stirah, that in sif 2 the rem"a wasnot taking about iruy,
As for what the shach himself holds, I recall that he is macmer like the mharshal. But we are discussing the rem"a
been a while since a went over these inside, but iirc the issue in 3 is that it becomes basar bicholov before it becomes Nat bar Nat ala Ran
Title: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on December 04, 2014, 09:59:56 AM
been a while since a went over these inside, but iirc the issue in 3 is that it becomes basar bicholov before it becomes Nat bar Nat ala Ran
that's where I think we disagree , the shach asks on the rem"a. That this is not the case of the ram.Which leads me to believe that the shach doesn't learn like the taz that iruy from milk kli to meat kli is like yora choleves. In other words, he doesn't understand why, but he learns that the rem"a  assurs iruy from milk kli to meat kli even though it's not the rans case (yora choleves) therefore I don't see any distinction between iruy or bishul.(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/04/255963d56cee3b62894771ff4f09533a.jpg)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on December 04, 2014, 12:06:00 PM
But there's still a diff. between kli choleves and parve kli to a kli basar
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avadah on February 11, 2015, 02:49:58 PM
Do you need to give maser on what you make selling points?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on February 11, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Do you need to give maser on what you make selling points?
What would be the Svarah not to?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Mordyk on February 11, 2015, 02:51:35 PM
Do you need to give maser on what you make selling points?
my rabbi said that you need to give maaser on anything, besides if you get a gift lets say to pay a specific bill then not.
What would be the Svarah not to?
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on February 11, 2015, 02:52:55 PM

Do you need to give maser on what you make selling points?

What does the Gemara say in general about the Chiyuv of Maaser Kesofim?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 11, 2015, 02:56:12 PM
What does the Gemara say in general about the Chiyuv of Maaser Kesofim?
that you have to give for points sold
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 11, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
Do you need to give maser on what you make selling points?
If the points were earned for spending then it's just a discount but if it's a signup bonus or MS then it's income
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avadah on February 11, 2015, 03:56:28 PM
If the points were earned for spending then it's just a discount but if it's a signup bonus or MS then it's income
I don't understand what you mean.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 11, 2015, 04:04:42 PM
I don't understand what you mean.
if you go into staples and buy a $700 computer on sale for $300 you saved $400, you do not need to give maaser on the $400. Points that you get for regular purchases are just like a sale and you do not need to give maaser on them but if you got the points a different way for free like with MS or if it's a signup bonus then it is not saving money it is making money and therefore maaser is required
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on February 11, 2015, 04:05:52 PM
if you go into staples and buy a $700 computer on sale for $300 you saved $400, you do not need to give maaser on the $400. Points that you get for regular purchases are just like a sale and you do not need to give maaser on them but if you got the points a different way for free like with MS or if it's a signup bonus then it is not saving money it is making money and therefore maaser is required
Who says it's a sale or a rebate?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 11, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
Who says it's a sale or a rebate?
You can ask your LOR about it, I asked mine
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on February 11, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
You can ask your LOR about it, I asked mine
Did he explain how it's considered a sale?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 11, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
Did he explain how it's considered a sale?
because in essence it is a technique to save money on a product you are buying because before it cost you $300 now it costs you $300-$20 that you get back, it's directly tied to your purchase making your purchase price $280
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on February 12, 2015, 12:18:08 AM
yes , but you sold it for the going rate , not their intended use ,
in their intended use its worth  less ...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 12, 2015, 12:27:48 AM
yes , but you sold it for the going rate , not their intended use ,
in their intended use its worth  less ...
doesn't make a difference and the proof is that when you buy something one of the things going thru your mind is i can sell the points for $xx so that is the amount saved what they want you to do with it makes no difference and the T&C have no bearing over these halachos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on February 12, 2015, 11:33:15 AM
doesn't make a difference and the proof is that when you buy something one of the things going thru your mind is i can sell the points for $xx so that is the amount saved what they want you to do with it makes no difference and the T&C have no bearing over these halachos
I don't disagree with you, but how in the world is that a proof? What about the vast majority of people (not on this forum) who don't have that running through their minds?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 12, 2015, 11:41:58 AM
I don't disagree with you, but how in the world is that a proof? What about the vast majority of people (not on this forum) who don't have that running through their minds?
Most people do but it really doesn't make a difference the same way if you get discount on your purchase that you didn't know about or better yet if you get a rebate at the and of your purchase that you didn't know about it's part of the discount even if you didn't realize it right away
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on February 12, 2015, 12:03:15 PM
Most people do but it really doesn't make a difference the same way if you get discount on your purchase that you didn't know about or better yet if you get a rebate at the and of your purchase that you didn't know about it's part of the discount even if you didn't realize it right away
Like I said, I don't disagree with you, but it's absolutely not a proof whether some (or even all) people think about the points they're earning when they make purchases.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dans fan on February 12, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
yes , but you sold it for the going rate , not their intended use ,
in their intended use its worth  less ...
what does that have to do with what he said
If the points were earned for spending then it's just a discount
-1, if your employer tells you he will give you a raise if you buy lots of vegetables than you still have to give masser from the raise , its possible that if you would not buy the product otherwise one can say your svara, but in almost all circumstances the 1.5 percent you get back with points would not make ppl but the product
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 12, 2015, 06:52:58 PM
what does that have to do with what he said-1, if your employer tells you he will give you a raise if you buy lots of vegetables than you still have to give masser from the raise , its possible that if you would not buy the product otherwise one can say your svara, but in almost all circumstances the 1.5 percent you get back with points would not make ppl but the product
I asked my LOR and that's what he said if yours says otherwise by all means give maaser on the money
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dans fan on February 12, 2015, 06:55:44 PM
I asked my LOR and that's what he said if yours says otherwise by all means give maaser on the money
ask him why it would be different, they are just paying you for using a cc its like a job, maybe your lor will change his mind
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 12, 2015, 07:00:49 PM
ask him why it would be different, they are just paying you for using a cc its like a job, maybe your lor will change his mind
it's very different it's like a rebate not a job and my LOR doesn't just change his mind like that he is extremely knowledgeable in all halachos and reality i've asked him and seen others ask him questions about anything and in a second he'll explain all the halachos and the facts behind it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dans fan on February 12, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
no its def not like a rebate, first of all many would not buy if not for the rebate, second here you are buying a product the cc comp tell you if you use a certain form of payment they wil pay you 1.5 percent of the payment, thats a job not a rebate
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 12, 2015, 10:03:14 PM
no its def not like a rebate, first of all many would not buy if not for the rebate, second here you are buying a product the cc comp tell you if you use a certain form of payment they wil pay you 1.5 percent of the payment, thats a job not a rebate
When I buy more expensive gas  by paying with cc bc my freedom makes it come out cheaper, I have to pay mayser on the savings? No way
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 12, 2015, 10:40:03 PM
no its def not like a rebate, first of all many would not buy if not for the rebate, second here you are buying a product the cc comp tell you if you use a certain form of payment they wil pay you 1.5 percent of the payment, thats a job not a rebate
So when you get $30 off for using visa checkout do you also give maaser? What about amex offers do you give maaser on them if you are using it to buy merchandise? (as opposed to vgc)

It doesn't make a difference who gives you the discount
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 12, 2015, 11:47:47 PM
ask him why it would be different, they are just paying you for using a cc its like a job, maybe your lor will change his mind
Why in the world should he follow up with his LOR for every question posted anonymously online?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on February 12, 2015, 11:58:00 PM
Why in the world should he follow up with his LOR for every question posted anonymously online?
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: noturbizniss on March 04, 2015, 11:41:20 AM
If I will be going to a late megillah reading do I need to wait for the time to break my fast or can i break it at the official fast ending time?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
If I will be going to a late megillah reading do I need to wait for the time to break my fast or can i break it at the official fast ending time?
https://www.ou.org/news/ou-koshers-top-purim-questions-2015/
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 04, 2015, 11:46:54 AM
If I will be going to a late megillah reading do I need to wait for the time to break my fast or can i break it at the official fast ending time?
If I recall correctly from when I was a Bochur. If you have a set Megillah reading you are going to then there is no problem eating.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
If I recall correctly from when I was a Bochur. If you have a set Megillah reading you are going to then there is no problem eating.
rav moshe uses that for mariv, but how can you have a set megilla reading when it happens once a year
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 04, 2015, 11:49:15 AM
rav moshe uses that for mariv, but how can you have a set megilla reading when it happens once a year
I meant a particular one that you are going to (i.e. your regular Maariv Minyan or a certain Purim Party you made plans to join).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
I meant a particular one that you are going to (i.e. your regular Maariv Minyan or a certain Purim Party you made plans to join).
not sure, but to each their own
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on March 04, 2015, 03:33:59 PM
Why isn't there a break in Shul before laining like we have before Tkias Shofer?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2015, 04:14:00 PM
Why isn't there a break in Shul before laining like we have before Tkias Shofer?
why do you need a break after 45 minutes?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on March 04, 2015, 04:21:21 PM

why do you need a break after 45 minutes?

So people can eat in shul and then enjoy the laining.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: bigbadmoish on March 04, 2015, 04:29:36 PM
If one loads an RC on Purim does that fall under the geder of work and he will not see bracha from those points/miles? Or is it a hobby and not a problem?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
If one loads an RC on Purim does that fall under the geder of work and he will not see bracha from those points/miles? Or is it a hobby and not a problem?
depends how much effort he exerts
if he finds a nice cashier, then its not in the geder of work
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: bigbadmoish on March 04, 2015, 04:33:24 PM
depends how much effort he exerts
if he finds a nice cashier, then its not in the geder of work
in bk it's a neis nifla and you cannot be soimech on that
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2015, 04:33:52 PM
in bk it's a neis nifla and you cannot be soimech on that
purim is the time of nisim nistarim
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: elit on March 04, 2015, 05:06:35 PM
So people can eat in shul and then enjoy the laining.
Pretty sure halachicklly not supposed to eat b4 megilla
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on March 04, 2015, 05:21:30 PM
Pretty sure halachicklly not supposed to eat b4 megilla
Lechatchila
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: elit on March 04, 2015, 05:21:55 PM
Lechatchila
Right that's why no break
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on March 04, 2015, 05:23:42 PM
Right that's why no break
I wasn't arguing I was explaining that if you don't feel well... you may eat before
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on March 04, 2015, 05:25:02 PM
Pretty sure halachicklly not supposed to eat b4 megilla
+1
Even just a little, only if it's a צורך גדול.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on March 04, 2015, 08:16:07 PM

Pretty sure halachicklly not supposed to eat b4 megilla

Why is more chamurdik than Tkias Shofer?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on March 04, 2015, 08:19:24 PM
Why is more chamurdik than Tkias Shofer?
Look in mishna b'rura, that's where I saw it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on March 04, 2015, 08:34:04 PM

Look in mishna b'rura, that's where I saw it.

Does he answer my question?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on March 04, 2015, 08:38:24 PM
Does he answer my question?
Not sure, check it out תרצ"ב ס"ק י"ד וט"ו
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moshe87 on March 04, 2015, 08:39:57 PM
BH

So i was in 770 maybe spaced out for a sec or didnt hear every word.
Was i yotze?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on March 04, 2015, 08:44:03 PM
BH

So i was in 770 maybe spaced out for a sec or didnt hear every word.
Was i yotze?
Well if you missed a word then you weren't yotze, but it seems like you're not sure your self, I'd ask my ruv.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: good sam on March 04, 2015, 09:00:08 PM
BH

So i was in 770 maybe spaced out for a sec or didnt hear every word.
Was i yotze?
Ask your Rav, but I don't think spaced out means you missed a word. You heard it, just weren't paying attention.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on March 04, 2015, 09:05:17 PM
Ask your Rav, but I don't think spaced out means you missed a word. You heard it, just weren't paying attention.
+1. Even karah misnamnem is yotzeh IINM
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: elit on March 04, 2015, 10:23:19 PM
Why is more chamurdik than Tkias Shofer?
I'm not sure if it's comparable but on rh we break for kiddush so don't go past chatzos without eating
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 04, 2015, 11:41:37 PM
I'm not sure if it's comparable but on rh we break for kiddush so don't go past chatzos without eating
that doesn't answer the question.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 04, 2015, 11:44:54 PM
If I will be going to a late megillah reading do I need to wait for the time to break my fast or can i break it at the official fast ending time?
Probabaly too late now, just saw this and our late readings are getting started. But -
After the fast is over, one is still not allowed to eat according to the Magen Avrohom before hearing the Megilla. In fact if one examines the exemptions granted to this Halacha vis a vis the exemptions granted to fasting on Taanis Esther, it would seem that if one isn’t feeling well on the fast he is better off eating then then eating after the fast before the Megilla reading. In fact I have heard that Rav Rubin of Eretz Yisroel recommended eating on Taanis Esther in the above scenario.

However many poskim hold that 'eating' means a seudah with bread. A respected posek (whom I didn't ask permission to quote, but happy to tell you personally if it makes a difference) told me that  it is permitted to eat before the Megilla as long as onedoesn't have a meal including bread. Which would indeed be the same exact thing as tekias shofar.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: emak on March 13, 2015, 11:03:17 AM
So here's what I just realized. If u have a subscription on amazon that has chametz in it, that may constitute owning chametz over Pesach. Although the food is only delivered to you at a later date, you seem to have an ownership on it right now in the amazon warehouse, which is problematic over pesach. Any thoughts/ opinions on the matter?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 13, 2015, 11:04:57 AM
So here's what I just realized. If u have a subscription on amazon that has chametz in it, that may constitute owning chametz over Pesach. Although the food is only delivered to you at a later date, you seem to have an ownership on it right now in the amazon warehouse, which is problematic over pesach. Any thoughts/ opinions on the matter?
when do you get charged?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: coralsnake on March 13, 2015, 11:32:22 AM
So here's what I just realized. If u have a subscription on amazon that has chametz in it, that may constitute owning chametz over Pesach. Although the food is only delivered to you at a later date, you seem to have an ownership on it right now in the amazon warehouse, which is problematic over pesach. Any thoughts/ opinions on the matter?
when do you get charged?
You dont take ownership of it until it is delivered, even if you were already charged.

Proof- if you refuse delivery, the item will be returned and you will get a full refund.

ETA- The fact that its set aside for you in Amazons warehouse should have no bearing halachically. Even the chometz that you sell to the goy over YT is "set aside" by the goy in your own house to resell to you after YT.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 17, 2015, 02:30:25 AM
If it's got your name on it and you paid for it it's very likely halachically yours.  That would be right before shipping.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on March 17, 2015, 09:17:30 AM
What makes you think it is set aside in their warehouse? It can gain that by the time your delivery date comes it says that it is out of stock.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: good sam on March 17, 2015, 09:42:22 AM
It's the concept of "ra-ouy." it can be compared to a Cohen who always gets matnas kehuna from a certain person. Even before it's delivered to him, he has some sense of ownership over it.

I don't remember what the din is offhand with regard to chametz.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moshe87 on March 24, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
BH

Is paying the with a CC via paypal (I.E paying more in order to pay later) a problem with ribis or avak ribis? I am paying for a service if it makes a difference.

Thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dovy2 on March 24, 2015, 06:56:37 PM
BH

Is paying the with a CC via paypal (I.E paying more in order to pay later) a problem with ribis or avak ribis? I am paying for a service if it makes a difference.

Thanks
The extra money is gong to PayPal.. Why should it be a problem?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Dr Moose on March 24, 2015, 07:10:42 PM
are you allowed to pray for mundane things (i.e. that your sports team should win) ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moshe87 on March 24, 2015, 07:15:51 PM
The extra money is gong to PayPal.. Why should it be a problem?

BH

Because for the fact the you are paying more to pay later when you could pay less to pay sooner
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: MC on March 24, 2015, 07:16:29 PM
Now in English?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moshe87 on March 24, 2015, 07:17:06 PM
are you allowed to pray for mundane things (i.e. that your sports team should win) ?

My question is do YOU even have to daven on the off season?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moshe87 on March 24, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Now in English?

It is a problem of ribis because you are paying more to pay later, when you have the option to pay less.
Better?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 24, 2015, 07:32:10 PM
The guy who you are paying isn't getting anything extra, you are borrowing money from the cc company so you can pay him now, and later you will pay the cc company what you owe THEM.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yesitsme on March 24, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
in the yehi ratzon before learning what does "vesmach bohem" mean who should be happy with what?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 24, 2015, 07:45:24 PM
The guy who you are paying isn't getting anything extra, you are borrowing money from the cc company so you can pay him now, and later you will pay the cc company what you owe THEM.
+1. It's not assur to pay ribis, it's assur to pay ribis to a Jew.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: YitzyS on March 24, 2015, 07:51:32 PM
are you allowed to pray for mundane things (i.e. that your sports team should win) ?
R' Yisroel Reisman once said over in a Navi Shiur: Someone once asked R' Moshe if you could Daven to win your game and he said yes. Someone else asked if he could Daven that the Mets should win and he said no. What the difference is is up to your understanding. (Rabbi Reisman joked that you cant Daven for the Mets to win because it's a Tefillas Shav, an impossible Tefilla!  ;) )
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on March 24, 2015, 08:04:42 PM
BH

Is paying the with a CC via paypal (I.E paying more in order to pay later) a problem with ribis or avak ribis? I am paying for a service if it makes a difference.

Thanks

that seems like an early bird special
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on March 24, 2015, 08:11:37 PM
are you allowed to pray for mundane things (i.e. that your sports team should win) ?

the mother of of the Kohain Godal would bring food to the people entrapped in the ar'ai miklot so that they wouldnt pray for her sons early death

so if you can pray for a leader of the jewish people to die than Im pretty sure that you can prey for the Mets to win the world series

the only difference is that the kohain godal is pretty much guaranteed to die eventually and there is no guarantee that the Mets will ever win
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on March 24, 2015, 08:14:45 PM
+1. It's not assur to pay ribis, it's assur to pay ribis to a Jew.

CMIIW but isnt it assur to charge a jew ribis
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 24, 2015, 08:17:03 PM
CMIIW but isnt it assur to charge a jew ribis
Yes, but the one who asked the question was the payer, not the payee - hence my phrasing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 24, 2015, 08:46:36 PM
(Rabbi Reisman joked that you cant Daven for the Mets to win because it's a Tefillas Shav, an impossible Tefilla!  ;) )
"Even when a sword is on your neck...."
(He really said that or are you adding that on ?)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: YitzyS on March 25, 2015, 11:03:21 AM
"Even when a sword is on your neck...."
(He really said that or are you adding that on ?)
He absolutely said that! It was in a Shiur around 4 years ago. (The place was on the floor laughing!)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 25, 2015, 12:45:04 PM
He absolutely said that! It was in a Shiur around 4 years ago. (The place was on the floor laughing!)
i feel like rabbis everywhere love pounding on the mets jokes
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on March 25, 2015, 01:04:44 PM
I once heard rav noach orleweck say that when he was in school they played baseball during recess and the team captain insisted that when they are up to bat everyone other than the batter has to say tehilim for him to get a hit.
Some of the boys thout it was inappropriate so they went to go ask rav simcha wasserman.  He answere,"if something is important to you then you daven for it!"
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on March 25, 2015, 01:06:37 PM
Does anyone know why you need to have three whole matzos for the Seder?
Why can't you use a broken middle one and then break it again for יחץ.  Is it only showing לחם עוני if you break a whole matzo?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 25, 2015, 01:07:35 PM
Does anyone know why you need to have three whole matzos for the Seder?
Why can't you use a broken middle one and then break it again for יחץ.  Is it only showing לחם עוני if you break a whole matzo?
You are asking why 3 as opposed to 2 and a half?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on March 25, 2015, 01:10:30 PM
Why is more chamurdik than Tkias Shofer?
דבר בעיתו מה טוב but
Iirc the mishna Brura doesn't mention the issue of eating before shofar anywhere in hilchos Rosh hashana.  The only makor is in hilchos purim so I imagine he equates the two.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: elit on March 25, 2015, 01:26:35 PM
the mother of of the Kohain Godal would bring food to the people entrapped in the ar'ai miklot so that they wouldnt pray for her sons early death

so if you can pray for a leader of the jewish people to die than Im pretty sure that you can prey for the Mets to win the world series

the only difference is that the kohain godal is pretty much guaranteed to die eventually and there is no guarantee that the Mets will ever win
Doesn't mean it was right for them to pay for his death
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on March 25, 2015, 01:27:36 PM
Does anyone know why you need to have three whole matzos for the Seder?
Why can't you use a broken middle one and then break it again for יחץ.  Is it only showing לחם עוני if you break a whole matzo?
Read the 14th paragraph.
http://www.haoros.com/Archive/index.asp?kovetz=836&cat=9&haoro=2 (http://www.haoros.com/Archive/index.asp?kovetz=836&cat=9&haoro=2)
PS, I didn't read it, just saw he's discussing it there.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on March 25, 2015, 01:44:32 PM
Doesn't mean it was right for them to pay for his death
True, but if it was a legitimate concern that showes their tiffilos would have been answered even for the mundane.
Honestly, I don't quite get the question.
Besides for the fact that Parts of shimoneh esrei are asking for mundane.
Why wouldn't you be able to ask for the  mundane. If it's important to you its important to g-d.




Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 25, 2015, 01:47:25 PM
True, but if it was a legitimate concern that showes their tiffilos would have been answered even for the mundane.
Honestly, I don't quite get the question.
Besides for the fact that Parts of shimoneh esrei are asking for mundane.
Why wouldn't you be able to ask for the  mundane. If it's important to you its important to g-d.
The question is what, in proper haskafah, should and shouldn't you daven for - not what will your davening be effective for.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on March 25, 2015, 01:51:31 PM
The question is what, in proper haskafah, should and shouldn't you daven for - not what will your davening be effective for.
Could be, but that's not the way I understood it being asked. Either way I maintain that if it's important to you "shoot away".
If you feel that it's something too mundane to be proper to ask for I would think the first step would be reassessing your priorities. But while its still important to you, its important to g-d.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on March 25, 2015, 05:45:03 PM
Could be, but that's not the way I understood it being asked. Either way I maintain that if it's important to you "shoot away".
If you feel that it's something too mundane to be proper to ask for I would think the first step would be reassessing your priorities. But while its still important to you, its important to g-d.
Is it appropriate to care so much about a team winning that you would daven for it:-X
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on March 25, 2015, 08:56:16 PM
Is it appropriate to care so much about a team winning that you would daven for it:-X
Now that is a question worth pondering.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 26, 2015, 04:47:37 PM
Regarding Ta'anis Bechoros, in a pinch is a Siyum on a Massechta of Mishnayos enough?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on March 27, 2015, 01:44:11 AM
no
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ayman on March 27, 2015, 03:14:08 AM
So here's what I just realized. If u have a subscription on amazon that has chametz in it, that may constitute owning chametz over Pesach. Although the food is only delivered to you at a later date, you seem to have an ownership on it right now in the amazon warehouse, which is problematic over pesach. Any thoughts/ opinions on the matter?
Not a rav, but definitely should not be a problem.
when do you get charged?
Doesn't matter, see below.
You dont take ownership of it until it is delivered, even if you were already charged.

Proof- if you refuse delivery, the item will be returned and you will get a full refund.

ETA- The fact that its set aside for you in Amazons warehouse should have no bearing halachically. Even the chometz that you sell to the goy over YT is "set aside" by the goy in your own house to resell to you after YT.
Has nothing to do with refusing delivery, or if it is set aside. Halachik concept of ownership for metaltelin (literally movable possesions) requires a maaseh of kinyan like hagba'a (picking up the item) or chalipin like we do w selling the chometz in the first place. Paying money for an item does not create a kinyan nor does it transfer ownership. You should have no problem with the chometz if the delivery is not made until after Pesach. But def ask your LOR.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on March 27, 2015, 03:27:30 AM
Regarding Ta'anis Bechoros, in a pinch is a Siyum on a Massechta of Mishnayos enough?
What's the "pinch"? You have plenty of time to start Tamid.  :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 27, 2015, 08:23:41 AM
What's the "pinch"? You have plenty of time to start Tamid.  :)
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 27, 2015, 12:14:45 PM
didnt know where to post this
just got asked, am i keeping the first night or second night of passover?
do i have a choice??
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on March 27, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
didnt know where to post this
just got asked, am i keeping the first night or second night of passover?
do i have a choice??
not AFAIK
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 27, 2015, 06:00:58 PM
Is taking out peyos from behind one's ears for shmona esrah Halacha or a minhag ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on March 27, 2015, 06:01:43 PM
Is taking out peyos from behind one's ears for shmona esrah Halacha or a minhag ?
That's a thing?!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 27, 2015, 06:06:15 PM
That's a thing?!
Lots of people do it. Wonder what the reason is.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: elit on March 28, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Is taking out peyos from behind one's ears for shmona esrah Halacha or a minhag ?
Is having peyos behind your ears a halacha.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dovy2 on March 28, 2015, 09:19:46 PM
Is taking out peyos from behind one's ears for shmona esrah Halacha or a minhag ?
If anything, might be a shailoh. Hair that is normally covered, when touched might require washing hands
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 28, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
If anything, might be a shailoh. Hair that is normally covered, when touched might require washing hands
Is behind the ears considered covered ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dovy2 on March 28, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
Is behind the ears considered covered ?
I guess it's debatable. Under the kippah is.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on March 28, 2015, 10:01:07 PM
If anything, might be a shailoh. Hair that is normally covered, when touched might require washing hands
-1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: sillypainter on March 28, 2015, 10:14:51 PM
Is taking out peyos from behind one's ears for shmona esrah Halacha or a minhag ?

The first place I saw it was in the "Yesod V'shoresh Havodah" he says that because hair is a thing that has to do with "dinim" and having "hair" on your ears "kavauchel" hashem will not listen to you. one should remove it so hashem should "listen" to your davening. Hope this explains.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 28, 2015, 10:42:37 PM
The first place I saw it was in the "Yesod V'shoresh Havodah" he says that because hair is a thing that has to do with "dinim" and having "hair" on your ears "kavauchel" hashem will not listen to you. one should remove it so hashem should "listen" to your davening. Hope this explains.
Sure. Thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: bigbadmoish on March 29, 2015, 07:14:45 AM
Is taking out peyos from behind one's ears for shmona esrah Halacha or a minhag ?
from what I heard the peyos when they're out work with the beard to make yud kay vuv kay. Not sure exactly how, just repeating what I was told.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 29, 2015, 07:18:07 AM
The first place I saw it was in the "Yesod V'shoresh Havodah" he says that because hair is a thing that has to do with "dinim" and having "hair" on your ears "kavauchel" hashem will not listen to you. one should remove it so hashem should "listen" to your davening. Hope this explains.
from what I heard the peyos when they're out work with the beard to make yud kay vuv kay. Not sure exactly how, just repeating what I was told.
It's interesting, I wouldn't think Yeshivishe guys would be into doing things that are Al Pi Kaballah...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on March 29, 2015, 09:47:17 AM
It's interesting, I wouldn't think Yeshivishe guys would be into doing things that are Al Pi Kaballah...
AFAIK it's not common for yeshivishe guys to do this, it's the chasidim who are into it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 29, 2015, 09:53:42 AM
AFAIK it's not common for yeshivishe guys to do this, it's the chasidim who are into it
Chassidim have their Payos behind their ears?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 29, 2015, 09:54:51 AM
Chassidim have their Payos behind their ears?
There are those that do. Even those that keep it out, they make sure there shouldn't be any hair left behind the ear.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on March 29, 2015, 09:55:43 AM
Chassidim have their Payos behind their ears?
Yes many have "geknipped" which goes behind the ear
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 29, 2015, 07:11:09 PM
See belz
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on March 30, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
It's interesting, I wouldn't think Yeshivishe guys would be into doing things that are Al Pi Kaballah...
you dont know much about people out of your sect  :o   
 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: lunatic on March 30, 2015, 10:36:12 PM
Are you allowed to MS on חול המועד
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 30, 2015, 10:49:55 PM
דבר האבד? Probably not unless you're at the end of the 3 months or whatever
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on March 30, 2015, 11:24:31 PM
Are you allowed to MS on חול המועד
It's a bi-annual Shaalah. The answer usually ends up being that it depends if MS is business or pleasure.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: lunatic on March 30, 2015, 11:27:44 PM
It's a bi-annual Shaalah. The answer usually ends up being that it depends if MS is business or pleasure.

How about both?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avadah on April 08, 2015, 01:01:17 AM
Can you use a lake for a keilim mikva?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on April 08, 2015, 01:02:46 AM
Can you use a lake for a keilim mikva?
depends on the source etc. Believe it or not this gets involved in the machlokes about NYC water.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on April 08, 2015, 04:33:34 AM
Is taking out peyos from behind one's ears for shmona esrah Halacha or a minhag ?
The mekor is a Zohar Hakadosh in tikkunim; tikkun 70 daf 122:a. The Zohar explains that hair covering the ear is as if it's blocking the gateways of prayer-heeding in heaven (as, apparently, our physical ears here below resemble, kevayachol, the ears above).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: noturbizniss on April 08, 2015, 09:01:40 AM
Double bagging food to heat up in non kosher microwave. Yay or nay on pesach?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: beeweegee on April 08, 2015, 09:40:39 AM
Double bagging food to heat up in non kosher microwave. Yay or nay on pesach?
I'm no Posek, but why would it be any different than during the year, when it's muttar?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: noturbizniss on April 08, 2015, 09:53:38 AM
I'm no Posek, but why would it be any different than during the year, when it's muttar?
People are more machmir on pesach in general...?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: beeweegee on April 08, 2015, 09:59:56 AM
People are more machmir on pesach in general...?
Right, I guess so, but that would be a personal minhag/feeling kind of thing. Halachically, I can't imagine why it would be a problem.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 08, 2015, 10:02:23 AM
Because Chometz on Pesach is Assure Bemashehu. But if it's double wrapped shouldn't be a problem...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: noturbizniss on April 08, 2015, 10:14:59 AM
Because Chometz on Pesach is Assure Bemashehu. But if it's double wrapped shouldn't be a problem...
Thanks. I'll triple wrap to be sure.  You have a beard, so you are qualified to paskin.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: beeweegee on April 08, 2015, 10:23:14 AM
Thanks. I'll triple wrap to be sure.  You have a beard, so you are qualified to paskin.
Hey! I don't have a beard, but I would say I'm significantly more well versed in Halacha than many people with beards.  >:( :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: noturbizniss on April 08, 2015, 10:36:44 AM
Hey! I don't have a beard, but I would say I'm significantly more well versed in Halacha than many people with beards.  >:( :P
not you...
him
Because Chometz on Pesach is Assure Bemashehu. But if it's double wrapped shouldn't be a problem...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 08, 2015, 11:17:45 AM
not you...
him
::)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on April 08, 2015, 11:29:15 AM
The mekor is a Zohar Hakadosh in tikkunim; tikkun 70 daf 122:a. The Zohar explains that hair covering the ear is as if it's blocking the gateways of prayer-heeding in heaven (as, apparently, our physical ears here below resemble, kevayachol, the ears above).
Having read only what you wrote I would take it to mean that they should be behind the ears since when they are untucked they block the ears.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on April 08, 2015, 11:31:07 AM
Thanks. I'll triple wrap to be sure.  You have a beard, so you are qualified to paskin.
If double doesn't work then triple probably doesn't help anything other that to make you feel good. Get a real psak.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on April 08, 2015, 11:40:54 AM
If double doesn't work then triple probably doesn't help anything other that to make you feel good. Get a real psak.
The point of triple is to make sure you have a good double so if there is a little hole or any other issue the extra layer takes care of it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on April 08, 2015, 12:11:42 PM

Double bagging food to heat up in non kosher microwave. Yay or nay on pesach?
Because Chometz on Pesach is Assure Bemashehu. But if it's double wrapped shouldn't be a problem...
Thanks. I'll triple wrap to be sure.  You have a beard, so you are qualified to paskin.

Just asked a Dayan he said no, I'll get a reason shortly.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on April 08, 2015, 02:06:31 PM
Mishnah berura says we're makpid that "bliya yotzei mkli lkli Belo rotev " on pesach even though during the year we pasken "ain...yotzei "
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on April 08, 2015, 04:57:15 PM
The point of triple is to make sure you have a good double so if there is a little hole or any other issue the extra layer takes care of it
so maybe wrap five times or ten. Why three?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on April 08, 2015, 06:27:22 PM
אם כן אין לדבר סוף
FTFY
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on April 08, 2015, 07:29:28 PM
Having read only what you wrote I would take it to mean that they should be behind the ears since when they are untucked they block the ears.
I am not really such a baki, only quoting. You, however, do sound like a baki; you seemingly know the exact setup of the ear above and through where the sounds enter it...  ;)
All I know is that "gutte yidden" take it down from behind their ears.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on April 08, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
I am not really such a baki, only quoting. You, however, do sound like a baki; you seemingly know the exact setup of the ear above and through where the sounds enter it...  ;)
All I know is that "gutte yidden" take it down from behind their ears.
I am certainly not proficient in tikunei zohar, but I am fairly certain that sound enters the ear through the hole. I even have a source for that since it is the place you cover to prevent hearing lashon hara.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on April 08, 2015, 08:03:21 PM
I am certainly not proficient in tikunei zohar, but I am fairly certain that sound enters the ear through the hole. I even have a source for that since it is the place you cover to prevent hearing lashon hara.
Was referring to the "udna d'le'eila", the ear above (kevayachol); I'm not convinced that that ear looks like ours.
Maybe search more in Tikkunei Zohar...  ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dovy2 on April 08, 2015, 08:48:42 PM
Can anyone explain the title of this thread?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on April 08, 2015, 09:00:46 PM
Deep?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on April 08, 2015, 09:15:18 PM
Can anyone explain the title of this thread?
Maybe written by someone who feels that many kashrus tumults aren't based on halacha
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 08, 2015, 09:21:15 PM
Can anyone explain the title of this thread?
I believe it inspired a few posts in the pet-peeves thread...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dovy2 on April 08, 2015, 09:25:20 PM
What's teiffa? It was supposed to be treiffa?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on April 08, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
What's teiffa? It was supposed to be treiffa?


Deep?


whats "teffia"?


deep (yiddish)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dovy2 on April 08, 2015, 09:27:32 PM
Ah.. Tiffeh would have been better..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
Post by: TimT on April 08, 2015, 09:29:37 PM
Ah.. Tiffeh would have been better..
same thing depends where you learned
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on April 08, 2015, 09:47:01 PM
Ohhhh I was wondering why nobody was ever fixing the stupid typo!!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on April 08, 2015, 09:47:48 PM
Ah.. Tiffeh would have been better..
Any way to rename a thread? Moderator?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on April 08, 2015, 10:19:42 PM
Can't OP change it as well?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on April 08, 2015, 10:40:05 PM
Can't OP change it as well?
Not anymore only for a limited amount of time
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on April 08, 2015, 10:41:44 PM

Not anymore only for a limited amount of time

Completely off topic but does that also apply to tapatalk posts?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on April 08, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
Completely off topic but does that also apply to tapatalk posts?
Yes
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: DanH on April 09, 2015, 05:43:06 AM
The point of triple is to make sure you have a good double so if there is a little hole or any other issue the extra layer takes care of it
Isn't the point of double to make sure nothing getting through single?

ETA:
Guess Not.  http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/9297/whats-the-halachic-advantage-of-double-or-triple-wrapping-food
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on April 09, 2015, 10:32:36 AM
Mishnah berura says we're makpid that "bliya yotzei mkli lkli Belo rotev " on pesach even though during the year we pasken "ain...yotzei "
Isn't the point of double to make sure nothing getting through single?

ETA:
Guess Not.  http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/9297/whats-the-halachic-advantage-of-double-or-triple-wrapping-food
Isn't the point of double to make sure nothing getting through single?

ETA:
Guess Not.  http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/9297/whats-the-halachic-advantage-of-double-or-triple-wrapping-food
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: MosheD on April 13, 2015, 10:16:43 AM
Would it be ribis to offer s/o a portion of signup bonus if they helped you out with spend?
In theory you (cc holder) are lending them $$ and when they pay you back giving them something extra
I know that this case is backwards (Malva paying interest to Loveh) but fwir any form of extra $ is assur mederabanan (or at least questionable)...
Thoughts?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on April 13, 2015, 10:19:18 AM

Would it be ribis to offer s/o a portion of signup bonus if they helped you out with spend?
In theory you (cc holder) are lending them $$ and when they pay you back giving them something extra
I know that this case is backwards (Malva paying interest to Loveh) but fwir any form of extra $ is assur mederabanan (or at least questionable)...
Thoughts?

I can't find it now I'm on my phone but there was talk somewhere about a shiur that has been given that apparently discussed this all and someone linked it, I feel like it was in the ethical thread around 3 weeks ago, maybe someone else can link it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on April 13, 2015, 10:22:22 AM
I can't find it now I'm on my phone but there was talk somewhere about a shiur that has been given that apparently discussed this all and someone linked it, I feel like it was in the ethical thread around 3 weeks ago, maybe someone else can link it.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=50401.0
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on April 17, 2015, 11:57:09 AM
1. If I buy a Lowes,coupon from ebay (I am assuming that is ok) and I use it at Home Depot is there anything wrong with printing another copy and using it at Lowes?

Unrelated:

2.  If amex gave an rsvp code for a signup bonus intending for her only to be used once is there anything wrong with using it multiple times?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on April 17, 2015, 12:00:27 PM
1. If I buy a Lowes,coupon from ebay (I am assuming that is ok) and I use it at Home Depot is there anything wrong with printing another copy and using it at Lowes?

Unrelated:

2.  If amex gave an rsvp code for a signup bonus intending for her only to be used once is there anything wrong with using it multiple times?
I think ethical is a better place for these
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on April 17, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Certain people get very upset when you mix halacha into the ethics thread and to be perfectly honest I am not interested whether or not it is ethical I am interested if it's mutar.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on April 17, 2015, 12:17:03 PM
1. If I buy a Lowes,coupon from ebay (I am assuming that is ok) and I use it at Home Depot is there anything wrong with printing another copy and using it at Lowes?

Is your question somehow predicated on the fact that you bought the coupon?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on April 17, 2015, 12:24:26 PM
Nah I paid $2 for it and it saved me $30.  I am just throwing in that info
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on April 17, 2015, 12:30:59 PM
1. If I buy a Lowes,coupon from ebay (I am assuming that is ok) and I use it at Home Depot is there anything wrong with printing another copy and using it at Lowes?

Unrelated:


Did you ask Lowe's?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on May 03, 2015, 11:34:04 AM
I got a letter that I have to appear before bes din & it's the last warning. They seem to have confused me with someone a block away that has a similar name. And I never heard of the person or company that it's from. Do I have to call the bes din & tell them they made a mistake or could I just toss it ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on May 03, 2015, 11:36:19 AM
I got a letter that I have to appear before bes din & it's the last warning. They seem to have confused me with someone a block away that has a similar name. And I never heard of the person or company that it's from. Do I have to call the bes din & tell them they made a mistake or could I just toss it ?
Probably a good idea to contact them
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on May 03, 2015, 11:55:34 AM
Probably a good idea to contact them
Could the other guy get in trouble if he says he never received it ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on May 03, 2015, 11:57:25 AM
Could the other guy get in trouble if he says he never received it ?
Unfortunately these days there is no guarantee that the bd will do what they are supposed to do and not make him problems even though he never got it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on May 03, 2015, 12:01:30 PM
Unfortunately these days there is no guarantee that the bd will do what they are supposed to do and not make him problems even though he never got it
Ok, thanks.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on May 03, 2015, 12:44:09 PM
I got a letter that I have to appear before bes din & it's the last warning. They seem to have confused me with someone a block away that has a similar name. And I never heard of the person or company that it's from. Do I have to call the bes din & tell them they made a mistake or could I just toss it ?
I don't know what shuras hadin is but I would contact the B"D and tell them. That seems like the right thing to do.

What's your concern? That you may find out it really was meant for you?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on May 03, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
I don't know what shuras hadin is but I would contact the B"D and tell them. That seems like the right thing to do.

What's your concern? That you may find out it really was meant for you?
That if I just toss it the other guy might get in trouble.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on May 03, 2015, 01:11:38 PM
I believe bd need to actually hand deliver a summons similar to the court system lehavdil..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on May 03, 2015, 01:22:37 PM
Unfortunately these days there is no guarantee that the bd will do what they are supposed to do and not make him problems even though he never got it
So wouldn't notifying the BD be the minimum we can do to avoid our batei dinim to get the the image you are describing here?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on May 03, 2015, 01:33:00 PM
I believe bd need to actually hand deliver a summons similar to the court system lehavdil..
Thats what I was thinking as there's no way of knowing if he ever got it otherwise.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on May 03, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
So wouldn't notifying the BD be the minimum we can do to avoid our batei dinim to get the the image you are describing here?
What kind of an image do they get putting both our first names & mailing it to the wrong person ? (If they're threatening someone they should at least get his name & address correct.)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on May 03, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
What kind of an image do they get putting both our first names & mailing it to the wrong person ? (If they're threatening someone they should at least get his name & address correct.)
Sadly enough. But we are not looking to damage our society even further. In some way or another the effect this damage can have on us may be inevitable.

Or, for all you know, there was no mistake in intended recipient...
  ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on May 03, 2015, 02:42:29 PM
Or, for all you know, there was no mistake in intended recipient...
  ;)
Well then the previous letters went to the wrong place. :)
Either way I'll give them a call & straighten it out.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: greatdeals on May 26, 2015, 01:48:14 PM
is only the Original flavor Oreo not OU D or are there other flavors?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on May 26, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
is only the Original flavor Oreo not OU D or are there other flavors?
Email kosherq@ou.org and ask them
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: jack12 on May 26, 2015, 11:50:08 PM
is only the Original flavor Oreo not OU D or are there other flavors?
https://oukosher.org/publications/latest-oreo-cookies/
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on May 27, 2015, 12:21:21 AM
https://oukosher.org/publications/latest-oreo-cookies/
When is that from?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2015, 12:29:50 AM
August 2014
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yesitsme on June 21, 2015, 08:34:00 PM
Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on June 21, 2015, 08:53:30 PM
Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?
I'm not a rav, but according to what I was taught if it was seen by a non-Jew you may drink it but not make kiddush on it. If it was touched by them (even the bottle) then it should not be drunk at all. But again, I would suggest you consult your rav re the shailah.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on June 21, 2015, 08:55:11 PM
I'm not a rav, but according to what I was taught if it was seen by a non-Jew you may drink it but not make kiddush on it. If it was touched by them (even the bottle) then it should not be drunk at all. But again, I would suggest you consult your rav re the shailah.
And if you're not sure if they touched it ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ADG on June 21, 2015, 09:46:11 PM
Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?

There is a difference between drinking it and making kidush... forsure wouldnt make kiddush on it...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on June 21, 2015, 09:56:31 PM
And if you're not sure if they touched it ?


suffeake d'rabonim le'kula
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: beeweegee on June 21, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
When one eats Mezonos and Shehakol together (e.g. danish and milk) and finishes the Mezonos first, I have heard that some hold that the Al Hamichya and Borei Nefashos should be made at the same time, so one should wait until he finishes the milk and then say both. I know many dont hold this way, but does anyone know the source for this?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on June 22, 2015, 03:19:36 PM
When one eats Mezonos and Shehakol together (e.g. danish and milk) and finishes the Mezonos first, I have heard that some hold that the Al Hamichya and Borei Nefashos should be made at the same time, so one should wait until he finishes the milk and then say both. I know many dont hold this way, but does anyone know the source for this?
I don't know the source, but the reason is simple. If you make an al hamichya before you finish the milk it deems the seudah to be complete and would therefore require a new beracha shehakol on the milk as the beginning of a new seudah. Since making this new shehakol is a safek (as you have in reality NOT finished the "milk" part of the seuda) it is ruled that you should complete your entire seuda all at once, and make all the required berachos achronos at the same time.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on June 22, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?
Chabad minhag is much more machmir on this than others, so it's really a YMMV :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: ADG on June 22, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
When one eats Mezonos and Shehakol together (e.g. danish and milk) and finishes the Mezonos first, I have heard that some hold that the Al Hamichya and Borei Nefashos should be made at the same time, so one should wait until he finishes the milk and then say both. I know many dont hold this way, but does anyone know the source for this?
If u made s shehakol and mezonnos. Then why does it make a diference when u make the separate after-blessings?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moish on June 22, 2015, 06:24:38 PM
Chabad minhag is much more machmir on this than others, so it's really a YMMV :)
they are??
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on June 22, 2015, 06:53:02 PM
If u made s shehakol and mezonnos. Then why does it make a diference when u make the separate after-blessings?
I don't know the source, but the reason is simple. If you make an al hamichya before you finish the milk it deems the seudah to be complete and would therefore require a new beracha shehakol on the milk as the beginning of a new seudah. Since making this new shehakol is a safek (as you have in reality NOT finished the "milk" part of the seuda) it is ruled that you should complete your entire seuda all at once, and make all the required berachos achronos at the same time.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on June 22, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Chabad minhag is much more machmir on this than others, so it's really a YMMV :)
care to explain
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on June 22, 2015, 07:13:09 PM
they are??
care to explain
this video - is the chabad position.
http://chabadinfo.com/video/non-mevushal-wine-touched-by-a-non-jew/

This would be the standard position:
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-InsightsFromTheInstitute-Fall09.htm

And, having discussed with poskim, even if circumstantially one can show that hte non Jew did not pour the unsealed bottle of wine it is, bedieved mutar. Not to use for kiddush etc is, to my knowledge, exclusively minhag chabad.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on June 22, 2015, 07:14:32 PM
this video - is the chabad position.
http://chabadinfo.com/video/non-mevushal-wine-touched-by-a-non-jew/

This would be the standard position:
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-InsightsFromTheInstitute-Fall09.htm

And, having discussed with poskim, even if circumstantially one can show that hte non Jew did not pour the unsealed bottle of wine it is, bedieved mutar. Not to use for kiddush etc is, to my knowledge, exclusively minhag chabad.
that explains it. i was wondering why i never heard of it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: beeweegee on June 23, 2015, 04:43:20 PM
I don't know the source, but the reason is simple. If you make an al hamichya before you finish the milk it deems the seudah to be complete and would therefore require a new beracha shehakol on the milk as the beginning of a new seudah. Since making this new shehakol is a safek (as you have in reality NOT finished the "milk" part of the seuda) it is ruled that you should complete your entire seuda all at once, and make all the required berachos achronos at the same time.
Right. Looking for the source, though.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on June 23, 2015, 10:51:39 PM
Nogei l'maaseh b'poel...

You know how you're not supposed to eat food that was under a bed at night? Well, how do you think that applies or does not apply to a lie-flat seat. If it makes any difference, in my particular case, it wasn't even a good lie-flat! It was a VS "upper class" dumb thing where you have to get out of it and stand up to turn it into a lie-flat.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on June 23, 2015, 10:56:13 PM
Steipler was makpid that food that ppl brought to him from chu"l, he would inquire if they slept over it on the plane.

But...
1. I cannot verify
2. Maybe just a chumra
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on June 23, 2015, 11:00:16 PM
Nogei l'maaseh b'poel...

You know how you're not supposed to eat food that was under a bed at night? Well, how do you think that applies or does not apply to a lie-flat seat. If it makes any difference, in my particular case, it wasn't even a good lie-flat! It was a VS "upper class" dumb thing where you have to get out of it and stand up to turn it into a lie-flat.
There are multiple variables.

Was the food sealed?
Can you wash the food? - fruit or a sandwich?
This is a bed that is not used for couples?


If you answer yes to those then I would say its fine. ( wash it) ...

Disclaimer; you asked the internet for a psak, so you that's exactly what this is.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on June 23, 2015, 11:20:14 PM
Sealed makes it okay? Never heard that. Yeah, it was all packaged food.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on June 23, 2015, 11:23:18 PM
Sealed makes it okay? Never heard that. Yeah, it was all packaged food.
Makes it better. There are many shitos in this.

Problem is that chamira sakansa...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yesitsme on June 23, 2015, 11:26:39 PM
http://judaism.stackexchange.com/a/2650/9608
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avremie on June 23, 2015, 11:30:12 PM
לא יתן תבשיל תחת המיטה... אפי' מחופים בכלי ברזל. שועה''ר שמירת הגוף ס''ז.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yesitsme on June 23, 2015, 11:32:34 PM
לא יתן תבשיל תחת המיטה... אפי' מחופים בכלי ברזל. שועה''ר שמירת הגוף ס''ז.
Doesn't help this situation
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avremie on June 23, 2015, 11:35:00 PM
Doesn't help this situation
  • Not a bed
  • already happened
Was only trying to answer the wrapped issue, already happened is irrelevant.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on June 24, 2015, 07:56:50 AM
Steipler was makpid that food that ppl brought to him from chu"l, he would inquire if they slept over it on the plane.

But...
1. I cannot verify
2. Maybe just a chumra

I don't remember the details but I remember being told as a bochur to be machmir about something left under a regular airplane seat on an overnight flight.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on June 24, 2015, 08:23:55 AM
i remember hearing once that once it happens you can eat it ill try to verify it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on June 24, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
Maybe our resident halachic expert SBS can post here?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on June 24, 2015, 10:47:48 AM
Maybe our resident halachic expert SBS can post here?
PM him?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on June 24, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
Here is from קונטרס ובלכתך בדרך:
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on June 24, 2015, 11:54:09 AM
Seems like there are opinions both ways. I PM'd SBS.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on June 24, 2015, 12:03:37 PM
Seems like there are opinions both ways. I PM'd SBS.
didn't ask any Chabad Rabbonim but I would guess Chabad follows the opinion of the GR"A in this case.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: SBS on June 24, 2015, 03:47:12 PM
Seems like there are opinions both ways. I PM'd SBS.

Indeed, there are opinions both ways. Some people will be more "meikel" in flights, or when it's "hefsed merube" or when it's closed container, etc.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on June 24, 2015, 03:54:17 PM
Indeed, there are opinions both ways. Some people will be more "meikel" in flights, or when it's "hefsed merube" or when it's closed container, etc.
And when it's all three?  :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on June 26, 2015, 12:43:23 AM
Whatever the case, this issue of food under a bed should not at all be taken lightly. I recall once being by a shiur where the rav discussed the shailah of being yotzei mitzvas lulav when the esrog was under a bed where someone slept. I don't remember the conclusion halacha l'maisah but at least I learned from there that these things can get really strict, and many times over we can be looking for a heter to eat a stupid sandwich etc. when it's not even worthwhile.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 03, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
What bracha on 50% grape juice 50% water?
How about 45 GJ 55 water?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 03, 2015, 01:28:35 PM
Hagafen. I believe you can make ahagafen until 5 to 1 ratio

ETA:
Per berachot.org(don't know if it's reliable)
Quote
A29) In general, Sefardim allow one to dilute wine or grape juice up to 50% before it loses its Hagefen bracha. Ashkenazim allow even more, up to 5 parts water with one part wine or grape juice. That being said, there are two other qualifications: First, it must still taste like wine or grape juice (and not just a grape flavored drink). Second, it must be within common standards of dilution. Meaning, people would still consider it as wine.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 03, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
What bracha on 50% grape juice 50% water?
How about 45 GJ 55 water?

Remember that whatever water you add is AFTER the factory added water too.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 03, 2015, 03:18:17 PM
Remember that whatever water you add is AFTER the factory added water too.
What's 100% juice mean??
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: oiseli48 on July 03, 2015, 03:22:31 PM

What's 100% juice mean??

That it's not from concentrate. But they somehow still have ways to add water and trick you with that label.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 03, 2015, 03:28:20 PM
That it's not from concentrate. But they somehow still have ways to add water and trick you with that label.
My "100% pure grape juice" says in the ingredients "sweetened with grape juice concentrate"
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 03, 2015, 03:32:01 PM
That it's not from concentrate. But they somehow still have ways to add water and trick you with that label.
Kedem I believe is more than 100% juice

ETA: what he said
My "100% pure grape juice" says in the ingredients "sweetened with grape juice concentrate"
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 03, 2015, 05:24:21 PM
My "100% pure grape juice" says in the ingredients "sweetened with grape juice concentrate"
Which is also grape juice, with the natural wager removed.
So why are ppl saying that they add water?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 04, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
Which is also grape juice, with the natural wager removed.
So why are ppl saying that they add water?
I'm not so sure where this is from or for what reason but my grandfather says shehakol on grape juice. If im not mistaken it has something to do with pasteurization. Have you ever seen 100% grape juice? i think its alot thicker than our standard bought one
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on July 04, 2015, 02:34:43 PM
I'm not so sure where this is from or for what reason but my grandfather says shehakol on grape juice. If im not mistaken it has something to do with pasteurization. Have you ever seen 100% grape juice? i think its alot thicker than our standard bought one
what does pasteurization have to do with it being 100% grape juice or not?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 05, 2015, 12:04:05 AM
I'm not so sure where this is from or for what reason but my grandfather says shehakol on grape juice. If im not mistaken it has something to do with pasteurization. Have you ever seen 100% grape juice? i think its alot thicker than our standard bought one

That's radical! And flout what it says b'feirush on the label -- birkaso hagafen?! :P I want to meet your zeide!

BTW, semi-related, the din is that one makes shehakol on brandy even though it is made from grapes. Brandy is what you get when you distill wine into hard liquor. If I can oversimplify, brandy is to wine sort of what whiskey is to beer.

Interesting, there is a man d'amar that you make mezonos on beer. But that's another discussion.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 05, 2015, 12:11:42 AM
I'm not so sure where this is from or for what reason but my grandfather says shehakol on grape juice. If im not mistaken it has something to do with pasteurization. Have you ever seen 100% grape juice? i think its alot thicker than our standard bought one
I have seen grape juice which I squeezed myself and it was thinner not thicker. That was partially due to the type of grape.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on July 05, 2015, 12:38:59 AM
I'm not so sure where this is from or for what reason but my grandfather says shehakol on grape juice. If im not mistaken it has something to do with pasteurization. Have you ever seen 100% grape juice? i think its alot thicker than our standard bought one
pretty hard to get single stregnth grape juice in this country. Most of it is sweetened with grape juice concentrate which would make it stronger.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 05, 2015, 12:47:29 AM
That's radical! And flout what it says b'feirush on the label -- birkaso hagafen?! :P I want to meet your zeide!

BTW, semi-related, the din is that one makes shehakol on brandy even though it is made from grapes. Brandy is what you get when you distill wine into hard liquor. If I can oversimplify, brandy is to wine sort of what whiskey is to beer.

Interesting, there is a man d'amar that you make mezonos on beer. But that's another discussion.
flaunting labels is not that radical...
the reason some ppl make shehakol on grape juice is on the brands which wont any more turn into wine , due to the pasteurazation.   (see shevus yitzchok.)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 05, 2015, 12:51:09 AM
flaunting labels is not that radical...
the reason some ppl make shehakol on grape juice is on the brands which wont any more turn into wine , due to the pasteurazation.   (see shevus yitzchok.)
Flouting not flaunting. And I assume you saw my :P emoticon.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 05, 2015, 01:32:31 AM
Rav Shlomo Zalman held that you make shehakol on grape juice
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 05, 2015, 07:28:13 AM
Rav Shlomo Zalman held that you make shehakol on grape juice
-1 definitely not.

On made from concentrate maybe. But not on 100% juice.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 05, 2015, 11:19:39 AM
If you get an aliya on a Tanis, do you say the loud parts with the tzibur or with the BK or both?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: elit on July 05, 2015, 11:20:20 AM
If you get an aliya on a Tanis, do you say the loud parts with the tzibur or with the BK or both?
For an aliyah today and was wondering the same
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 05, 2015, 03:27:11 PM
If you get an aliya on a Tanis, do you say the loud parts with the tzibur or with the BK or both?
For an aliyah today and was wondering the same
      Definitely not both. Otherwise, I don't think it makes a difference. The right way of having an aliyah is to really lein by yourself, and that is why you are to read along with the baal koreh during your aliyah (the reason why we take a baal koreh in the first place is to not embarrass those who can't lein on their own). So I would assume that as long as you say all the words of your kriah between the beracha rishonah and acharonah then you are yotzei, regardless of whether you said it word for word with the baal koreh or not.
Disclaimer: This is my own understanding and opinion of the situation. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on July 05, 2015, 03:28:30 PM
If you get an aliya on a Tanis, do you say the loud parts with the tzibur or with the BK or both?
correct way is with bk
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 05, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
correct way is with bk
Source?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on July 05, 2015, 03:30:36 PM
my grandfather says shehakol on grape juice. If im not mistaken it has something to do with pasteurization. 
intersting political history here - http://www.torahlab.org/doitright/using_grape_juice_for_kiddush/
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 05, 2015, 03:33:57 PM
intersting political history here - http://www.torahlab.org/doitright/using_grape_juice_for_kiddush/
Hey, this guy has a similar name to yours. Do you know him?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on July 05, 2015, 03:51:52 PM

Source?
As heard from a veteran BK, but it's logical, you are in essence the korei (he's your shaliach) not part of the tzibur.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 05, 2015, 03:52:26 PM
Rav Shlomo Zalman held that you make shehakol on grape juice
not true
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 05, 2015, 04:00:34 PM
Hey, this guy has a similar name to yours. Do you know him?
i bet you just outed him  ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on July 05, 2015, 04:01:45 PM
i bet you just outed him  ;D ;D
I would say he outed himself. not for the first time either, but its been a while
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on July 05, 2015, 05:22:22 PM
Source?
Update : mishna Berura 566:3.  Sefer hachasidim quoted in dirshu explains that the tzibur is Derech bakasha but the koreh and oleh have to be Derech sipur
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Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 05, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
Update : mishna Berura 566:3.  Sefer hachasidim quoted in dirshu explains that the tzibur is Derech bakasha but the koreh and oleh have to be Derech sipur
Thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 05, 2015, 07:46:47 PM
If my father's chair is moved away from his place at the table & there's a different chair in its place, am I aloud to sit in the chair by his place, his chair that's moved to the side, or none ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: DMYD on July 05, 2015, 08:01:11 PM
If my father's chair is moved away from his place at the table & there's a different chair in its place, am I aloud to sit in the chair by his place, his chair that's moved to the side, or none ?
Both not he has his designed chair, and designed place.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 05, 2015, 08:04:38 PM
Both not he has his designated chair, and designated place.
Thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 06, 2015, 12:20:55 PM
Is this rashi referring to the root or the top/head?
I thought "hair" is at the bottom, root...(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/d88c634778d570b16d05ad7591c40bbd.jpg)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on July 06, 2015, 12:24:29 PM
There is only hair on one side. Interesting that rashi refers to that as rosh.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 06, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
intersting political history here - http://www.torahlab.org/doitright/using_grape_juice_for_kiddush/
I actually spoke to someone that worked in one of the kedem factories and he said that he tried ti drink some of the grape juice after it was supposedly filtered. he said that one would never be able to drink a full cup of that as its so heavy so i imagine there is added liquid. unless the do some added filtering that would somehow make it lighter.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 06, 2015, 05:58:02 PM
I actually spoke to someone that worked in one of the kedem factories and he said that he tried ti drink some of the grape juice after it was supposedly filtered. he said that one would never be able to drink a full cup of that as its so heavy so i imagine there is added liquid. unless the do some added filtering that would somehow make it lighter.
Legally they are allowed to add a certain amount of water (I once heard exact amount, but don't remember) and still market it as 100% pure grape juice. Maybe this sheds some light on the topic.
Obviously, they have their rabbonim who are on top of how much water they add, so that halachically we can still make a "hagafen".
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on July 06, 2015, 06:42:17 PM
Legally they are allowed to add a certain amount of water (I once heard exact amount, but don't remember) and still market it as 100% pure grape juice. Maybe this sheds some light on the topic.
Obviously, they have their rabbonim who are on top of how much water they add, so that halachically we can still make a "hagafen".
20%
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 06, 2015, 06:54:28 PM
Legally they are allowed to add a certain amount of water (I once heard exact amount, but don't remember) and still market it as 100% pure grape juice. Maybe this sheds some light on the topic.
Obviously, they have their rabbonim who are on top of how much water they add, so that halachically we can still make a "hagafen".

Exactly. Which takes us back to my original point which was when you add water, remember that water was already added before you even opened the bottle.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 06, 2015, 07:15:04 PM
So why add water and concentrate?
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Post by: moko on July 06, 2015, 07:31:31 PM
So why add water and concentrate?
flavor. I don't understand it 100%, but Kedem clearly does this in the grape beverage product ("light" grape juice  list water and gj concentrate in the ingredients) I asked one of the Herzogs who works @ the Marlboro plant and he said they add for flavor (the concentrate added is from California). He also told me that there is no water added to regular grape juice as did R' Nochum Rabinowitz.
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Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 06, 2015, 08:22:51 PM
flavor. I don't understand it 100%, but Kedem clearly does this in the grape beverage product ("light" grape juice  list water and gj concentrate in the ingredients) I asked one of the Herzogs who works @ the Marlboro plant and he said they add for flavor (the concentrate added is from California). He also told me that there is no water added to regular grape juice as did R' Nochum Rabinowitz.
True. So I guess adding water to the "lite" grape juice is risking your hafafen much more then when adding water to the regular grape juice.

As a side note, I once was sitting at the Shabbos seuda with my brother in law and came across a grape juice (or maybe it was a wine) that on one side of the bottle it said mevushal and on the other side it said non-mevushal. It took us a while, but my brother-in-law came up with the answer. Supposedly, there is a degree which when boiled to that point, according to some poskim the wine is considered mevushal, whereas, according to others it is not. Apparently, this bottle was boiled to that degree and no more. I later confirmed this speculation from another source.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: good sam on July 06, 2015, 08:39:29 PM
If you get an aliya on a Tanis, do you say the loud parts with the tzibur or with the BK or both?
Similar question: if you're davening shmoneh esrei with the ש"ץ do you say קדושה with the ש"ץ or ציבור?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 06, 2015, 08:42:48 PM
Similar question: if you're davening shmoneh esrei with the ש"ץ do you say קדושה with the ש"ץ or ציבור?
I don't have it in front of me but pretty sure the Kitzur says you say it with the Sha"tz
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on July 06, 2015, 08:54:03 PM
I don't have it in front of me but pretty sure the Kitzur says you say it with the Sha"tz
That's what I remember being taught.

My turn - When should the Ba'al Koreh say Chazak Chazak and when should the Oleh say it?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 06, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
That's what I remember being taught.

My turn - When should the Ba'al Koreh say Chazak Chazak and when should the Oleh say it?
The Baal Koreh? Doesn't he say it out loud it after the Tzibur?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on July 06, 2015, 10:32:33 PM
True. So I guess adding water to the "lite" grape juice is risking your hafafen much more then when adding water to the regular grape juice.

As a side note, I once was sitting at the Shabbos seuda with my brother in law and came across a grape juice (or maybe it was a wine) that on one side of the bottle it said mevushal and on the other side it said non-mevushal. It took us a while, but my brother-in-law came up with the answer. Supposedly, there is a degree which when boiled to that point, according to some poskim the wine is considered mevushal, whereas, according to others it is not. Apparently, this bottle was boiled to that degree and no more. I later confirmed this speculation from another source.
R' Moshe holds it must be yad tzoledes, the tzelemer rav who gives the hechsher on kedem holds it must reach boiling. In the past if it was in between Kedem wouldn't write anything but they have since stopped that practice
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on July 06, 2015, 10:35:43 PM
The Baal Koreh? Doesn't he say it out loud it after the Tzibur?
Right :-[, Just the Oleh
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 06, 2015, 10:42:02 PM
R' Moshe holds it must be yad tzoledes, the tzelemer rav who gives the hechsher on kedem holds it must reach boiling. In the past if it was in between Kedem wouldn't write anything but they have since stopped that practice
Stopped which practice?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on July 06, 2015, 10:42:29 PM
Stopped which practice?
Not writing anything when its in between
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Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 06, 2015, 10:43:41 PM
Not writing anything when its in between
So what do they do? Do they just not boil it in between, or they started writing?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on July 06, 2015, 10:57:38 PM
So what do they do? Do they just not boil it in between, or they started writing?
They just follow the tzelemer rav
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on July 06, 2015, 11:11:42 PM
If you are relying on pasteurization as your bishul its not going to boil (pastuerizers operate under pressure) though you may get to 212° using DSI for pasteurization, they don't use this method for juices. The highest temp a plate and frame pastuerizer operates at is 160° which is most definitely not boiling.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 06, 2015, 11:34:31 PM
If you are relying on pasteurization as your bishul its not going to boil (pastuerizers operate under pressure) though you may get to 212° using DSI for pasteurization, they don't use this method for juices. The highest temp a plate and frame pastuerizer operates at is 160° which is most definitely not boiling.
You sound like a pro. Are you a mashgiach kashrus for any organization?
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Post by: moko on July 06, 2015, 11:38:27 PM
You sound like a pro. Are you a mashgiach kashrus for any organization?
just trained by the pros
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 07, 2015, 02:02:24 AM
okay i think the reason as to why people such as my grandfather make shehakol on grape juice is because usually one has to make hagofen on wine. we are allowed to make it on grape juice because it can be fermented into wine. the problem is these days with the pasteurization that once it has been pasteurized it loses the ability to ferment and if thats the case it loses the 'heter' of saying hagofen.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 07, 2015, 02:12:27 AM
okay i think the reason as to why people such as my grandfather make shehakol on grape juice is because usually one has to make hagofen on wine. we are allowed to make it on grape juice because it can be fermented into wine. the problem is these days with the pasteurization that once it has been pasteurized it loses the ability to ferment and if thats the case it loses the 'heter' of saying hagofen.

Did you read the article posted by thaber?
intersting political history here - http://www.torahlab.org/doitright/using_grape_juice_for_kiddush/

If you don't want to read it then here is the pertinent part:
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Rav Henkin in a later responsum on the subject retracts his reservations regarding using grape juice for a different reason. He consulted with Mr. Herzog, of Herzog Winery fame, who demonstrated to him how one can easily fermented even pasteurized grape juice by adding a little sugar and yeast and leaving it exposed, thus refuting the pasteurization argument from a scientific perspective as well.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 07, 2015, 02:18:54 AM
Did you read the article posted by thaber?
If you don't want to read it then here is the pertinent part:
i saw it once bought down by the crc. not sure exactly where
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 07, 2015, 02:19:34 AM
i saw it once bought down by the crc. not sure exactly where
found it http://www.crcweb.org/kosher_articles/grape_juice_concentrate.php#_ftn9
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 07, 2015, 05:58:30 PM
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Rav Henkin in a later responsum on the subject retracts his reservations regarding using grape juice for a different reason. He consulted with Mr. Herzog, of Herzog Winery fame, who demonstrated to him how one can easily fermented even pasteurized grape juice by adding a little sugar and yeast and leaving it exposed, thus refuting the pasteurization argument from a scientific perspective as well.
     Just wondering, can we compare the ability for juice to ferment naturally, to when it needs human intervention to make it ferment?

     I know many people who, although they use grape juice for kiddush all year, are makpid to use wine, or home-squeezed grapes for the 4 cups on Pesach because of this fermenting reason/problem. I also personally know a well renowned and respected rav/rabbi who is makpid to use for the 4 kosos only wine not containing sulfites. Though, I'm not quite sure why, and whether it has to do with the fermenting issue.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2015, 07:47:11 PM
     Just wondering, can we compare the ability for juice to ferment naturally, to when it needs human intervention to make it ferment?

     I know many people who, although they use grape juice for kiddush all year, are makpid to use wine, or home-squeezed grapes for the 4 cups on Pesach because of this fermenting reason/problem. I also personally know a well renowned and respected rav/rabbi who is makpid to use for the 4 kosos only wine not containing sulfites. Though, I'm not quite sure why, and whether it has to do with the fermenting issue.
All wine is fermented with sugar and yeast
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 07, 2015, 08:02:56 PM
All wine is fermented with sugar and yeast

Added sugar and yeast? Maybe Manischewitz. Nice wine just uses the sugar and yeast naturally occurring within the grapes.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2015, 08:18:18 PM
Added sugar and yeast? Maybe Manischewitz. Nice wine just uses the sugar and yeast naturally occurring within the grapes.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-your-own-wine/step3/Ingredients/
AFAIK there is no yeast in grapes, and it is added to all wine
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 07, 2015, 08:25:49 PM
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-your-own-wine/step3/Ingredients/
AFAIK there is no yeast in grapes, and it is added to all wine
Yeast is everywhere. It's on the grape skins already.

Of course, you can also add yeast, but you definitely don't have to.

The terms are "wild yeast" and "inoculated yeast" respectively.

As to which is more common practice in the industry, I don't know.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Yeast is everywhere. It's on the grape skins already.

Of course, you can also add yeast, but you definitely don't have to.

The terms are "wild yeast" and "inoculated yeast" respectively.

As to which is more common practice in the industry, I don't know.
The gist of wikipedia was added, especially for dry
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Chaikel on July 07, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
From an amatuer vinter and wine making buff I know:
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[Yeast] grows naturally on the outside of the grape. Most people add their own yeast because it isn't possible to know if the natural yeast is bad until it ruins your wine

What percentage of wine sold in stores have yeast added?
Probably all. It's how they keep the flavor consistent
They usually kill the natural ones and make their own
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 07, 2015, 10:13:05 PM
All wine is fermented with sugar and yeast
Then maybe we should make mezonos on wine like his zeideh makes shehakol on grape juice...?  ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 08, 2015, 02:35:43 AM
Then maybe we should make mezonos on wine like his zeideh makes shehakol on grape juice...?  ;)
Besides for the fact that it cant ferment naturally anymore there is another problem that it isnt considered choshuv after the fermenting process so that also can take away the bracha of hagofen
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 08, 2015, 03:06:06 AM
Besides for the fact that it cant ferment naturally anymore there is another problem that it isnt considered choshuv after the fermenting process so that also can take away the bracha of hagofen
You can say that about mevushal wine as well.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 08, 2015, 06:31:34 AM
You can say that about mevushal wine as well.
as far as i remember my dad only uses not mevushel
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on July 08, 2015, 08:56:05 AM
Right :-[, Just the Oleh
the oleh doesnt say it because he still didnt say the second bracha
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 08, 2015, 10:02:58 AM
as far as i remember my dad only uses not mevushel
That's for a different reason, not because of any question regarding the brocha.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on July 09, 2015, 07:08:28 AM
That's what I remember being taught.

My turn - When should the Ba'al Koreh say Chazak Chazak and when should the Oleh say it?
In shu,a, its mivuar that the tzibur says chazak TO the oleh that finishes. Sort of like shkoyach. In hilchos simchas torah. Lifi zeh, the oleh does not say chazak.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 09, 2015, 07:31:48 AM
From the Hayom Yom of 23 Tishrei (Simchas Torah):
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אין קוראים בתורה בלילה. נ"כ [נשיאת כפים] בשחרית. אין נוהגים לפרוש טלית על ראשי העולים לחתן תורה או לחתן בראשית. גם העולה לתורה אומר חזק חו"נ

http://www.chabad.org/dailystudy/hayomyom.asp?lang=heb&tdate=10%2F06%2F2015
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 09, 2015, 12:57:33 PM
All wine is fermented with sugar and yeast
  very very wrong . you dont need either
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 09, 2015, 01:00:00 PM
Besides for the fact that it cant ferment naturally anymore there is another problem that it isnt considered choshuv after the fermenting process so that also can take away the bracha of hagofen
1 grape juice CAN ferment naturally ,   2 fermenting means turning into wine... that is chashuv !
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 09, 2015, 01:00:56 PM
From an amatuer vinter and wine making buff I know:
Quote
[Yeast] grows naturally on the outside of the grape. Most people add their own yeast because it isn't possible to know if the natural yeast is bad until it ruins your wine

What percentage of wine sold in stores have yeast added?
Probably all. It's how they keep the flavor consistent
They usually kill the natural ones and make their own

this is accurate
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 09, 2015, 01:05:58 PM
     Just wondering, can we compare the ability for juice to ferment naturally, to when it needs human intervention to make it ferment?

     I know many people who, although they use grape juice for kiddush all year, are makpid to use wine, or home-squeezed grapes for the 4 cups on Pesach because of this fermenting reason/problem. I also personally know a well renowned and respected rav/rabbi who is makpid to use for the 4 kosos only wine not containing sulfites. Though, I'm not quite sure why, and whether it has to do with the fermenting issue.
4 cups of wine are Rabbinic . the friday night cup may be Torah Obligated (see biur halacha) there is zero reason to be stricter on the laws of wine by the seder night. The reason the respected rav does not use sulfites or store bought wine is because of pesach stringecies.   
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 09, 2015, 01:54:17 PM


4 cups of wine are Rabbinic . the friday night cup may be Torah Obligated (see biur halacha) there is zero reason to be stricter on the laws of wine by the seder night. The reason the respected rav does not use sulfites or store bought wine is because of pesach stringecies.
Zero?
For Seder night derech cheirus is required according to some poskim. They hold alcohol content is required.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 09, 2015, 06:12:19 PM
Zero?
For Seder night derech cheirus is required according to some poskim. They hold alcohol content is required.
+1
You need yayin hamesameach for the 4 cups; which is not required for kiddush on Shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on July 09, 2015, 11:10:24 PM
I once met someone in the Walmart buying great value grape juice.  He told me בשם a not well known or respected פוסק (I don't remember whom) that they take grapes and put it in the machine and then the humans don't touch it again until it is pasteurized which makes it mevushal and therefore you can buy any commercial grape juice.
I found it interesting and was actually wondering what the flaw in his argument is.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 09, 2015, 11:13:11 PM
Weirdo.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 09, 2015, 11:57:02 PM
I once met someone in the Walmart buying great value grape juice.  He told me בשם a not well known or respected פוסק (I don't remember whom) that they take grapes and put it in the machine and then the humans don't touch it again until it is pasteurized which makes it mevushal and therefore you can buy any commercial grape juice.
I found it interesting and was actually wondering what the flaw in his argument is.
     When you have a bottle of (not mevushal) grape juice laying around in your refrigerator and your non-Jewish cleaning lady moves it from one side to another, isn't that considered touched? So what does it help in this case when it is touched through a machine. I know that Kedem only has Jewish truck drivers, although the drivers never get anywhere near touching any of the contents in their tanker vehicles.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:04:46 AM
I once met someone in the Walmart buying great value grape juice.  He told me בשם a not well known or respected פוסק (I don't remember whom) that they take grapes and put it in the machine and then the humans don't touch it again until it is pasteurized which makes it mevushal and therefore you can buy any commercial grape juice.
I found it interesting and was actually wondering what the flaw in his argument is.
how does he guarantee that the pasteurizer is kosher? It could have been used for many things like clam or meat soups etc.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:12:54 AM
how does he guarantee that the pasteurizer is kosher? It could have been used for many things like clam or meat soups etc.
+1
That's yet another problem that exists with this GJ; which is besides for the yayin nesech shailah.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:15:47 AM
     When you have a bottle of (not mevushal) grape juice laying around in your refrigerator and your non-Jewish cleaning lady moves it from one side to another, isn't that considered touched? So what does it help in this case when it is touched through a machine. I know that Kedem only has Jewish truck drivers, although the drivers never get anywhere near touching any of the contents in their tanker vehicles.
how is it touched through the machine?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:16:56 AM
how is it touched through the machine?
Non-Jews operating the machinery. No different than through a bottle.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:19:04 AM
Non-Jews operating the machinery. No different than through a bottle.
It is so far removed.

Also, arvach arva tzorich
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:21:17 AM
It is so far removed.
Says who?
Also, arvach arva tzorich
Point being?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:22:56 AM
Says who?Point being?
Huh
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 10, 2015, 12:23:58 AM
how is it touched through the machine?
You're familiar with the whole process? What it looks like? You're just being contrary. I hope you don't really drink Welch's and you're just trolling.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:24:48 AM
Huh
A. Who said it is far?
B. What do you mean to bring out with the arvach arva tzorich?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:27:41 AM
You're familiar with the whole process? What it looks like? You're just being contrary. I hope you don't really drink Welch's and you're just trolling.
No I don't drink grape juice with no hechsher, but I am not trolling. I am intrigued by his reasoning and would love a clear answer why it is wrong besides the pasteurizer itself. Yes I have seen juice production and bottling. What I saw also leads me to believe that this person is ignorant.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:29:51 AM
No I don't drink grape juice with no hechsher, but I am not trolling. I am intrigued by his reasoning and would love a clear answer why it is wrong besides the pasteurizer itself.
You were the one to mention another very valid reason before.
how does he guarantee that the pasteurizer is kosher? It could have been used for many things like clam or meat soups etc.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:30:34 AM
A. Who said it is far?
B. What do you mean to bring out with the arvach arva tzorich?
You said a svara to compare the two cases on which I asked that

1. They are not comparable
2. The case you are comparing it to is in itself at best not so simple
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:32:00 AM
You were the one to mention another very valid reason before.
Keyword "besides"

If it is only that then it is not so difficult to do research
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:34:52 AM
You said a svara to compare the two cases on which I asked that

1. They are not comparable
2. The case you are comparing it to is in itself at best not so simple
     Got it. And I agree that they are not 100% comparable, but there still is some similarity between the two to, at least, raise kashrus doubts.
1. Both are being touched/operated distantly by non-Jews.
2. It is a very accepted minhag not to use GJ in that case.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:37:25 AM


2. It is a very accepted minhag not to use GJ in that case.
Many people buy sealed not mevushal wins and grape juice in non Jewish stores.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:39:26 AM
Keyword "besides"

If it is only that then it is not so difficult to do research
Sorry, I thought you meant besides for the yayin nesech shailah in the pasteurizer.
In any case, we may not know which additives they add in to the recipe in those companies. An ingredient that is less than 2% doesn't have to be reported legally.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:40:27 AM
Many people buy sealed not mevushal wins and grape juice in non Jewish stores.
Pasteurizer is considered sealed?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:41:22 AM


Sorry, I thought you meant besides for the yayin nesech shailah in the pasteurizer.
In any case, we may not know which additives they add in to the recipe in those companies. An ingredient that is less than 2% doesn't have to be reported legally.

If there is no issue with the juice there us no issue with the equivalent equipment.

2% is a myth
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:42:07 AM
Pasteurizer is considered sealed?
It is more sealed than a bottle
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 10, 2015, 12:42:40 AM

If there is no issue with the juice there us no issue with the equivalent equipment.
...other than that which you mentioned above...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 10, 2015, 12:43:16 AM
...other than that which you mentioned above...
Which is not yayin nesech
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on July 10, 2015, 12:43:26 AM
Interestingly, this conversation is going in circles, as there is a shailah whether wine with sugar added can become nesech, due to it not being rauy lamizbeach. Lichstchila we are machmir...


Additionally (halachicly and) legally there is a difference if the sugar is added before and to aid the fermentation or whether its added after. I think i recall that sugar added b4 fermentation becomes 'wine' and can be labeled no sugar added.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 10, 2015, 03:22:37 AM
Zero?
For Seder night derech cheirus is required according to some poskim. They hold alcohol content is required.
read the quote i quoted.. he said his rabbi is carefull to drink wine OR home squeezed grapes. no alcohol..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on July 10, 2015, 03:28:24 AM

Interestingly, this conversation is going in circles, as there is a shailah whether wine with sugar added can become nesech, due to it not being rauy lamizbeach. Lichstchila we are machmir...


Additionally (halachicly and) legally there is a difference if the sugar is added before and to aid the fermentation or whether its added after. I think i recall that sugar added b4 fermentation becomes 'wine' and can be labeled no sugar added.
You're correct sugar added before fermentation becomes wine and raises the alcohol percentage in the wine.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on July 24, 2015, 01:23:25 PM
Since Tisha Be'av is a Nedche this year do the halachos regarding things that one waits till after chatzos the next day for still apply?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 24, 2015, 01:36:37 PM
Since Tisha Be'av is a Nedche this year do the halachos regarding things that one waits till after chatzos the next day for still apply?
no
but you cant have meat or wine (besides havdala) at night
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on July 24, 2015, 01:39:24 PM
no
but you cant have meat or wine (besides havdala) at night
Why?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 24, 2015, 01:41:31 PM
Why?
rama (558:1) "mipnei aveiluso shel yom"
due to the mourning of the day itself.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 24, 2015, 02:04:54 PM
Funny because there's an opposite discussion about whether you can cut up your esrog on shmini atzeres.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on July 24, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
no
but you cant have meat or wine (besides havdala) at night
Some shitos say you have to wait for music too.

Fantastic summary here:
http://www.aish.com/h/9av/oal/48964976.html?s=mpw
I believe the sefer it comes from has footnotes with mekoros, but they didn't copy those in here.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 24, 2015, 02:14:30 PM
Some shitos say you have to wait for music too.

Fantastic summary here:
http://www.aish.com/h/9av/oal/48964976.html?s=mpw
I believe the sefer it comes from has footnotes with mekoros, but they didn't copy those in here.
i had actually heard that too but didnt know the source so didnt want to mention it
but thanks for the link
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 24, 2015, 02:32:07 PM
Full aveilus is noheg on shabbos. Just not in public.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 24, 2015, 02:39:08 PM
Full aveilus is noheg on shabbos. Just not in public.
huh?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 24, 2015, 02:55:38 PM
Is there any way of brushing teeth that's allowed on shabbos ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mord1 on July 24, 2015, 03:02:17 PM
huh?

Full aveilus is noheg on shabbos. Just not in public.

meaning- public aveilus is not noheg but private aveilus is noheg, just like during shiva, private things are assur but public things are mutar
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: raphy781 on July 24, 2015, 03:02:40 PM
Is there any way of brushing teeth that's allowed on shabbos ?
They make a shabbos toothbrush that has rubber bristles.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 24, 2015, 03:05:00 PM
They make a shabbos toothbrush that has rubber bristles.
And toothpaste is ok ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 24, 2015, 03:06:24 PM
meaning- public aveilus is not noheg but private aveilus is noheg, just like during shiva, private things are assur but public things are mutar
i know what he meant, but it doesnt really have ramifications
what are you not going to do this shabbos thats different than any other shabbos?
dont say learning tomorrow afternoon, bc many are meikil about that. and i give you a lot of credit if you could learn only tisha bav appropriate material tomorrow afternoon and sunday, and not miss a beat. for some of us who are a bit weaker, we need to rely on the meikilim for tomorrow afternoon.
going for a walk for pleasure? ok maybe ill give you that
tashmish? mechaber is meikil and some ashkenasim arent noheg like the rama.
but anything else?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 24, 2015, 03:07:15 PM
And toothpaste is ok ?
for a background
http://www.bknw.org/uploads/5/9/9/5/5995719/brushing_teeth_on_shabbos.pdf
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 24, 2015, 03:14:30 PM
I heard at a shiur that a regular shabbos walk is fine but not for pleasure (scenic).
Remember not to prepare or put on slippers till nacht.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mord1 on July 24, 2015, 03:24:11 PM
i know what he meant, but it doesnt really have ramifications
what are you not going to do this shabbos thats different than any other shabbos?
dont say learning tomorrow afternoon, bc many are meikil about that. and i give you a lot of credit if you could learn only tisha bav appropriate material tomorrow afternoon and sunday, and not miss a beat. for some of us who are a bit weaker, we need to rely on the meikilim for tomorrow afternoon.
going for a walk for pleasure? ok maybe ill give you that
tashmish? mechaber is meikil and some ashkenasim arent noheg like the rama.
but anything else?
form what  I remember the nafka minah is to walk around for pleasure, and I believe the poskim are machmir on tashmish tonight  unless its leil tevilah, but I don't have any seforim with me to give you a maar hamakom
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 24, 2015, 03:27:43 PM
form what  I remember the nafka minah is to walk around for pleasure, and I believe the poskim are machmir on tashmish tonight  unless its leil tevilah, but I don't have any seforim with me to give you a maar hamakom
yes, i mentioned the walk for pleasure
and i mentioned tashmish
machlokes mechaber (meikil) and rama (machmir), unless leil tvila, and i believe shaar hatziun even quotes one who returns from being away, but i have heard some are still meikil regardless of situation. not telling one to hold like that, just looking for the nafka minas of the above statement
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mord1 on July 24, 2015, 04:01:48 PM
yes, i mentioned the walk for pleasure
and i mentioned tashmish
machlokes mechaber (meikil) and rama (machmir), unless leil tvila, and i believe shaar hatziun even quotes one who returns from being away, but i have heard some are still meikil regardless of situation. not telling one to hold like that, just looking for the nafka minas of the above statement
got it, ok then I cant think of any more Nafka minahs this second
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 24, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
Nitei Gavriel mentions washing with warm water.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 24, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
Are raw beans muktzeh this shabbos?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on July 24, 2015, 05:08:37 PM
Are raw beans muktzeh this shabbos?
why not
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: elit on July 24, 2015, 05:12:25 PM


tashmish? mechaber is meikil and some ashkenasim arent noheg like the rama.
but anything else?

Don't know the sugya but my rav said we dont
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 24, 2015, 05:39:31 PM

Don't know the sugya but my rav said we dont
Poshut. Ashkenazim don't.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 24, 2015, 05:39:51 PM
Are raw beans muktzeh this shabbos?
What do u do w raw beans?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 24, 2015, 05:44:43 PM
What do u do w raw beans?
I'm sorry. It will just upset you.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 24, 2015, 06:36:25 PM
Are raw beans muktzeh this shabbos?
Aveilus Befarhesia is Asuur ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: grodnoking on July 25, 2015, 10:44:14 PM
Can you smoke on tisha bav?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: sams on July 25, 2015, 10:47:11 PM

Can you smoke on tisha bav?
think wait till after chatzyos and then bitzina.ask your LOR
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 25, 2015, 10:52:04 PM
Can you smoke on tisha bav?
Truly a ask your LOR circumstance. Some say not at all, some say after chatzos, & others say even before chatzos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Menachem613 on July 25, 2015, 11:03:33 PM

Can you smoke on tisha bav?

Can you smoke altogether?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 25, 2015, 11:07:50 PM
Can you smoke altogether?
According to the rabbonim that you could tisha b'av after chatzos, obviously yes.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 25, 2015, 11:16:38 PM
I'm sorry. It will just upset you.
Bring it on!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 25, 2015, 11:32:24 PM
Bring it on!
Aveilus Befarhesia is Asuur ;)
וד"ל
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: PTU on July 26, 2015, 05:14:45 PM
Bring it on!
Bump??
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on July 26, 2015, 05:23:44 PM
Achas already told you b'remez.
You throw the beans at people who are being maudlin to get them to snap out of it. It's all done with love.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on July 26, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
what is mutar and what is still asur tonight (i.e. music meat wine etc...)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on July 26, 2015, 07:35:45 PM
what is mutar and what is still asur tonight (i.e. music meat wine etc...)
Wine and meat is still asur and the rest is mutar.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 26, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
Wine and meat is still asur and the rest is mutar.
Why is it asur if its already י״א ? Music is ok ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on July 26, 2015, 07:40:48 PM
Why is it asur if its already י״א ? Music is ok ?
Look in רמ"א סימן תקנ"ח.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 26, 2015, 07:44:04 PM
Look in רמ"א סימן תקנ"ח.
Will do, thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 26, 2015, 07:46:57 PM
Why is it asur if its already י״א ? Music is ok ?
Reason is because it is still considered yom aveilus. Im not sure y shaving is allowed etc
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on July 26, 2015, 08:07:29 PM
what is mutar and what is still asur tonight (i.e. music meat wine etc...)

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Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 26, 2015, 08:10:09 PM
Wine and meat is still asur and the rest is mutar.
Exception: Havdalah.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on July 26, 2015, 08:14:32 PM

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i like the last one
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on July 26, 2015, 08:23:19 PM
Is there האש by havdalah tonight ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on July 26, 2015, 08:24:15 PM
Is there האש by havdalah tonight ?
Nops, did it already yesterday night.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on July 26, 2015, 08:27:19 PM
And if you didn't, you missed it and can't do it tonight.
Also don't say hinei kel... Just hagafen and hanavdil
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 26, 2015, 10:13:06 PM
Wine and meat is still asur and the rest is mutar.
correct
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 27, 2015, 12:22:11 AM
Even this thread can have a wiki!!!

I have added a wiki titled "Some Lomdishe Acronyms For This Thread".
Feel free to update it as needed. (Just keep it in alphabetical order. Thank you.)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: doodle on July 27, 2015, 07:48:32 PM
Even this thread can have a wiki!!!

I have added a wiki titled "Some Lomdishe Acronyms For This Thread".
Feel free to update it as needed. (Just keep it in alphabetical order. Thank you.)
KHLH  some ppl would say kol hamachmir...  ::)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: avromie7 on July 27, 2015, 07:50:30 PM
KHLH  some ppl would say kol hamachmir...  ::)
Are you going to finish it off?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 27, 2015, 10:45:57 PM
Are you going to finish it off?
He finished it off, didn't you see his eyes roll?
IOW, kol hamachmir will be looked at like  ::) ...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 27, 2015, 10:50:01 PM
Harav Ovadiah Yosef Z"L used to say that the shoresh (root) of machmir is "chamor"; one who is machmir is...

IIRC there should be a video of him saying the above statement. Post a link if you know about it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on July 27, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
And if you didn't, you missed it and can't do it tonight.
Also don't say hinei kel... Just hagafen and hanavdil
Some people says "hinei" just like we do on motzei Yom tov, it's got nothing to do with shabbos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on July 27, 2015, 11:29:18 PM
Some people says "hinei" just like we do on motzei Yom tov, it's got nothing to do with shabbos
who says "hinei" on motzei yom tov?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on July 27, 2015, 11:40:08 PM
who says "hinei" on motzei yom tov?
I guess YMMV.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on July 28, 2015, 03:06:24 AM
who says "hinei" on motzei yom tov?
the levush  and pri megadim hold that it is said also motzei Yom tov
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on August 22, 2015, 08:07:36 PM
According to the poskim who hold its asur to copy  music, what would the halocha be if I bought the CD and lost it can I copy it now?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on August 22, 2015, 11:18:47 PM
According to the poskim who hold its asur to copy  music, what would the halocha be if I bought the CD and lost it can I copy it now?
A few rabbonim in Lakewood who generally say it is assur have told me that in such a case it is allowed.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on August 22, 2015, 11:26:20 PM
A few rabbonim in Lakewood who generally say it is assur have told me that in such a case it is allowed.
Do they also allow to make additional copies if I bought 1 ? To have an extra at home & 1 for the car.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on August 23, 2015, 12:09:55 AM
Do they also allow to make additional copies if I bought 1 ? To have an extra at home & 1 for the car.
I didn't ask them but wonder why that should be different than putting it onto an iPod
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on August 23, 2015, 07:16:40 AM
Do they also allow to make additional copies if I bought 1 ? To have an extra at home & 1 for the car.
Regarding that I heard since I bought the rights to use it wherever I want it will be mutar
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on September 02, 2015, 02:42:11 AM
Who do i call for ribus shailos? it has to do with the exchange rate?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Emkay on September 02, 2015, 04:32:24 AM
Who do i call for ribus shailos? it has to do with the exchange rate?
In Israel?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on September 02, 2015, 08:31:31 AM
Rabbi marburger from Lakewood is a great person to call. I used to have his number, but can't find it now
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on September 04, 2015, 10:54:01 AM
can you use a mechanical timer on yom tov, and if not what melacha is it violating and why doesnt ochel nefesh apply
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 04, 2015, 10:56:08 AM
can you use a mechanical timer on yom tov, and if not what melacha is it violating and why doesnt ochel nefesh apply
What do you mean. To set an oven to go on with a timer? To adjust the timer? lights?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on September 04, 2015, 11:00:48 AM
What do you mean. To set an oven to go on with a timer? To adjust the timer? lights?

something like this
http://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Large-Number-Mechanical-Timer/dp/B0007NIIOK

just to time cooking
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: al613 on September 06, 2015, 08:10:43 PM
Does anyone have any concerns about Shmita and products from Sabon?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: al613 on September 07, 2015, 12:15:15 PM
Does anyone have any concerns about Shmita and products from Sabon?
Just asked Rabbi Schwei - no problem
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on September 07, 2015, 12:23:38 PM
Did he give a reason?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 11, 2015, 12:04:22 PM
My wife lent my neighbors wife money. Will my pruzbul work for her?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 11, 2015, 12:07:23 PM
My wife lent my neighbors wife money. Will my pruzbul work for her?
who is the money really owed to
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 11, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
who is the money really owed to
Dunno, the family?

Per This (http://www.shtaros.com/media/ff5efe881a12044cffff94a9ffffe417.pdf) an isha would be able to make me a shaliach, but the question is whether this is necessary for a married woman?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on September 12, 2015, 10:10:35 PM
can you use a mechanical timer on yom tov, and if not what melacha is it violating and why doesnt ochel nefesh apply

something like this
http://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Large-Number-Mechanical-Timer/dp/B0007NIIOK

just to time cooking

bump
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on September 12, 2015, 10:22:50 PM
did you ever see a 12 year old do hataras nedarim? why not?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on September 12, 2015, 10:25:08 PM
My wife lent my neighbors wife money. Will my pruzbul work for her?
Got this for a wife. https://go.madmimi.com/redirects/1442090271-08c87764f3b33434ba6cbe33e6f9ce24-19d1797?pa=33036148352 (https://go.madmimi.com/redirects/1442090271-08c87764f3b33434ba6cbe33e6f9ce24-19d1797?pa=33036148352)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 12, 2015, 10:29:19 PM
bump
There is an issur to use a measuring tool. Like a measuring cup.
I wonder if this applies to your timer?

Second, this makes a sound. This timer is probably more related to machshirei ochel than actual cooking. Not sure..


It is a good question
 ask your lor and post here
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 12, 2015, 10:31:35 PM
Got this for a wife. https://go.madmimi.com/redirects/1442090271-08c87764f3b33434ba6cbe33e6f9ce24-19d1797?pa=33036148352 (https://go.madmimi.com/redirects/1442090271-08c87764f3b33434ba6cbe33e6f9ce24-19d1797?pa=33036148352)
This pruzbul is through shlichus to an external beis din. Minhag Ashkenazim is to have the Beis din present and sign

This is my understanding..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 12, 2015, 10:42:31 PM
did you ever see a 12 year old do hataras nedarim?
yes, and I assume that you just didn't notice them doing it since they would not be part of the three sitting.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on September 12, 2015, 10:54:16 PM
yes, and I assume that you just didn't notice them doing it since they would not be part of the three sitting.
We do 10 sitting. And I would assume that the 12 year old could not be one of the 10.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 12, 2015, 11:24:35 PM
We do 10 sitting.
Bring that as a con in the "Chabad Minhagim" thread...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 12, 2015, 11:26:11 PM
We do 10 sitting. And I would assume that the 12 year old could not be one of the 10.
10 for nedarim? Or for niduy?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on September 12, 2015, 11:48:48 PM
did you ever see a 12 year old do hataras nedarim? why not?
Funny, I was just talking about this with someone today (he has a12 YO). The kid said his rebbe told him to do hataras nedarim
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 13, 2015, 12:12:54 AM
10 for nedarim? Or for niduy?
Nedarim. We don't do Niduy.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on September 13, 2015, 12:15:34 AM
I thought it was called "seder nezifa."
At any rate, as Achas said, we don't do it. But I'd love to see it done!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on September 13, 2015, 06:09:52 AM
I remember as a kid we were in carpool and the driver gave us a paper with a one line thing on it to say and said that is good enough for us to do hatoras nedorim... we were abt 12... was pretty chilled in comparison to the real one...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on September 13, 2015, 10:36:51 AM
10 for nedarim? Or for niduy?
3 for nedarim 10 for niduy
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 13, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
3 for nedarim 10 for niduy
Chabad does 10 for Nedarim and we don't do Niduy.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on September 13, 2015, 11:04:49 AM
This pruzbul is through shlichus to an external beis din. Minhag Ashkenazim is to have the Beis din present and sign

This is my understanding..
It's all Ashkenazim..
Got it from R Nisson Kaplan
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 13, 2015, 11:05:06 AM
Chabad does 10 for Nedarim and we don't do Niduy.
I wonder what the source for that is
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 13, 2015, 11:19:20 AM
I thought it was called "seder nezifa."
At any rate, as Achas said, we don't do it. But I'd love to see it done!
Probably has to do with the nezifa part.
Chabad does 10 for Nedarim and we don't do Niduy.
A Beis din of 10?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 13, 2015, 11:28:27 AM
It's all Ashkenazim..
Got it from R Nisson Kaplan
That is definitely not the minhag in Lakewood.

On this shtar pruzbul there are two types, the second one is keminhag habeis yosef .
http://www.shtaros.com
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on September 13, 2015, 01:43:43 PM
I bought a computer at BB & the rep decided to throw in an internet security disk for free. I need to return the computer. Do I need to return the disk as well ? Its not even on my receipt.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: emak on September 16, 2015, 12:57:44 PM
Any issue with doing laundry today?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 16, 2015, 03:14:18 PM
Any issue with doing laundry today?
no
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 20, 2015, 04:53:44 PM
Not sure if this is a Chabad thing or not but some people are Makpid to pay for their Arba Minin before Yom Kippur.

The question is what is the Hakpadah? That you should have paid for the Arba Minim before Yom Kippur or that the dealer be paid before Yom Kippur?

The Nafka Mina is regarding paying with a credit card.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dovy2 on September 20, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
Not sure if this is a Chabad thing or not but some people are Makpid to pay for their Arba Minin before Yom Kippur.

The question is what is the Hakpadah? That you should have paid for the Arba Minim before Yom Kippur or that the dealer be paid before Yom Kippur?

The Nafka Mina is regarding paying with a credit card.
it's all about adding in zecusim before YK. Makes no difference about paying...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on September 20, 2015, 08:32:34 PM
it's all about adding in zecusim before YK. Makes no difference about paying...
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 20, 2015, 08:35:34 PM
it's all about adding in zecusim before YK. Makes no difference about paying...
Pretty sure I saw that the Rabeim were Makpid to pay before YK (IINM I saw it in Reshimas), I'll try to look it up when I get home after our DO tonight... ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ydad on September 20, 2015, 08:57:54 PM
This is all very interesting to me. Were I come from there's an inyan not to buy daled minim or build a sukah till after y.k. Supposed to be too busy with teshuva and yom Kippur preps.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 20, 2015, 09:03:15 PM
Some people say Aderaba, before YK we want as many zechusim as we can get.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 20, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Pretty sure I saw that the Rabeim were Makpid to pay before YK (IINM I saw it in Reshimas), I'll try to look it up when I get home after our DO tonight... ;)
There is an inyan to make sure all ones finances are in order before yk. למען נחדל מעושק ידינו

Iirc the MB may bring this down.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on September 21, 2015, 01:33:00 AM
Any thoughts on a ceiling fan in the sukkah?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Cheesecake on September 21, 2015, 07:24:46 AM
Any thoughts on a ceiling fan in the sukkah?
I assume you light candles in the house.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 21, 2015, 10:32:10 AM
I assume you light candles in the house.
Why is a fan worse than if you have a breeze as long as it is not directly under it? Neronim and the like should work.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on September 21, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
Any thoughts on a ceiling fan in the sukkah?
Why would that be an issue halachically ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on September 21, 2015, 10:43:35 AM
Why would that be an issue halachically ?
Well,  it's lower than 4 tefachim and more than 4 tefachim across depending on how you measure. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on September 21, 2015, 10:44:14 AM
Why is a fan worse than if you have a breeze as long as it is not directly under it? Neronim and the like should work.
+1. Plenty of people have fans in their dining room
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 21, 2015, 11:41:43 AM
Well,  it's lower than 4 tefachim and more than 4 tefachim across depending on how you measure.
I would think that It has a din of sechach possul. - less than 3 sit under, more than 3 don't sit under.

Unless it's a very small succa and there is no shiur counting the place of the fan.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on September 21, 2015, 11:47:03 AM
I would think that It has a din of sechach possul. - less than 3 sit under, more than 3 don't sit under.

Unless it's a very small succa and there is no shiur counting the place of the fan.
Position it above your table (which is probably the best spot anyway) and you can probably avoid any issues.

Any sukkah without a shiur remaining if you don't count under the fan is probably too small to safely have a fan anyway.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on September 21, 2015, 11:47:26 AM
I would think that It has a din of sechach possul. - less than 3 sit under, more than 3 don't sit under.

Unless it's a very small succa and there is no shiur counting the place of the fan.
How about the rema at the end of 627?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on September 21, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
How about the rema at the end of 627?
My solution works even with that Rama (see Mishna Berura there regarding candelabra/lighting). Of course this is all only where it's practical to put the fan above the table.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on September 21, 2015, 11:58:33 AM
My solution works even with that Rama (see Mishna Berura there regarding candelabra/lighting). Of course this is all only where it's practical to put the fan above the table.
True.  My question now is,  was the mb's dispensation for candelabra only? He mentions fire danger as a big factor.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on September 21, 2015, 12:02:25 PM
Any thoughts on a ceiling fan in the sukkah?
Probably as long as you can time your chewing to be on a rhythm that you should only eat while the blades are not directly overhead?  :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on September 21, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
True.  My question now is,  was the mb's dispensation for candelabra only? He mentions fire danger as a big factor.
I think the fire issue was only to explain why less than 4 isn't a good option. But I believe the M"B is actually coming to say that the whole Rama is because of a chashash that you'll ultimately sit under noy sukkah that are 4 wide and more than 4 from the schach (which you for sure can't sit under). But something above the table has no such chashash, because you can't sit under it at all. IMH(non-rabbinic)O, that would include both lighting (even electric) and fans.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on September 21, 2015, 12:36:46 PM
I think the fire issue was only to explain why less than 4 isn't a good option. But I believe the M"B is actually coming to say that the whole Rama is because of a chashash that you'll ultimately sit under noy sukkah that are 4 wide and more than 4 from the schach (which you for sure can't sit under). But something above the table has no such chashash, because you can't sit under it at all. IMH(non-rabbinic)O, that would include both lighting (even electric) and fans.
Wiki updated.  :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 21, 2015, 01:12:14 PM
Of course sleeping is another question
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on September 21, 2015, 06:31:55 PM
Of course sleeping is another question
Can this be adapted?

Probably as long as you can time your chewing to be on a rhythm that you should only eat while the blades are not directly overhead?  :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on September 21, 2015, 06:32:31 PM
Of course sleeping is another question
by the way, I think we discussed this either on this thread or the Chabad one a while back.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on September 24, 2015, 01:08:57 PM
Can this be adapted?
Sleep walking?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2015, 12:03:41 AM
Can I move my succa on shabbos?

It doesn't totally cover my deck and I would like to move it out during the day for space but back in at night.

Ohel?
Muktza?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2015, 12:20:37 AM
I am pretty sure both but more boneh than ohel
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2015, 12:53:06 AM
I am pretty sure both but more boneh than ohel
Boneh, Why? Just moving the whole structure
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gubevo18 on September 27, 2015, 01:52:59 AM
Boneh, Why? Just moving the whole structure
Yes but if I'm right I think when you move it it is now a different structure than it was before which means you are building something new
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2015, 07:35:03 AM
Yes but if I'm right I think when you move it it is now a different structure than it was before which means you are building something new
Sounds like a big chiddush. Meheichy teisiy??
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gubevo18 on September 27, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Sounds like a big chiddush. Meheichy teisiy??
I'm going to find out exactly where but I think its pretty straightforward
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2015, 10:32:50 AM
Not sure why you need to come onto it being a new binyan. Moving a wall in your house which is not made to be movable is boneh so why is this different?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gubevo18 on September 27, 2015, 10:58:36 AM
Not sure why you need to come onto it being a new binyan. Moving a wall in your house which is not made to be movable is boneh so why is this different?
And why is moving a wall in your house boneh??? Just like to think of it in a way that makes sense to me. Getting down to the basic logic of the halachah
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
Just to clarify I am NOT reconstructing anything, I'm just moving an existing structure which is not necessarily connected or attached to the ground
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2015, 12:45:25 PM
Just to clarify I am NOT reconstructing anything, I'm just moving an existing structure which is not necessarily connected or attached to the ground
the only reason you are allowed to open and close a door is that it is made to open and close.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2015, 12:46:23 PM
the only reason you are allowed to open and close a door is that it is made to open and close.
A door is adding on to an binyan/wall.

Can I make my succa to move? Wheels?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2015, 01:42:49 PM
Either way it is muktza
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on September 27, 2015, 01:43:49 PM
Either way it is muktza
If that's the case you can do it כלאחר יד.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2015, 04:58:00 PM
Many hold that for muktza machmas gufo you cannot do kilachar yad
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 27, 2015, 05:09:56 PM
Many hold that for muktza machmas gufo you cannot do kilachar yad
The succah is muktza lemitzvos kol 7. This is a unique muktza where one may not be "mistapek" from it. One may touch or move it.
Why is it muktza machmas gufo on shabbos? Especially if it's made to be somewhat mobile.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on September 27, 2015, 05:32:15 PM
Many hold that for muktza machmas gufo you cannot do kilachar yad
Maybe, but the שלחן ערוך הרב says that's it's mutter and I follow him 99%.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2015, 05:34:17 PM
Maybe, but the שלחן ערוך הרב says that's it's mutter and I follow him 99%.
I somehow doubt that is the case with cbc
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on September 30, 2015, 02:38:32 AM
Maybe, but the שלחן ערוך הרב says that's it's mutter and I follow him 99%.
In that case you probably can't use his heterim when ever you want, they might be from the 1%
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on October 01, 2015, 12:52:55 AM


לאחר העיון


אין איסור במעביר אוהל אראי ממקום למקום. נו"ב מ"ת ס"ס ל

.אם נשאר הסוכה בכשרותה אין במחיצות איסור משום בונה כיון שהוא אראי עירובין מ"ה שו"ע שי"א


אם לא נשאר בכשרותה או שנתמעט שטחה ה"ל מחיצה מתרת ואסורה



עדיין יש בו משום מוקצה דכיון שאסור להסתפק ממנו ביה"ש ה"ל מוקצה מחמת גופו מ"ב תרל"ח ס"ק ו' וע"ש בענין אוהל


ציור של טלטול כלאחר יד קשה לתערו כיון שדרך לדחוף דבר גדול בגופו וברגלו וכדומה


עיקר היתר של כלאחר יד כדי להשתמש בדבר המוקצה אינו פשוט ע'  חזו"א
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 01, 2015, 05:54:42 AM


לאחר העיון


אין איסור במעביר אוהל אראי ממקום למקום. נו"ב מ"ת ס"ס ל

.אם נשאר הסוכה בכשרותה אין במחיצות איסור משום בונה כיון שהוא אראי עירובין מ"ה שו"ע שי"א


אם לא נשאר בכשרותה או שנתמעט שטחה ה"ל מחיצה מתרת ואסורה



עדיין יש בו משום מוקצה דכיון שאסור להסתפק ממנו ביה"ש ה"ל מוקצה מחמת גופו מ"ב תרל"ח ס"ק ו' וע"ש בענין אוהל


ציור של טלטול כלאחר יד קשה לתערו כיון שדרך לדחוף דבר גדול בגופו וברגלו וכדומה


עיקר היתר של כלאחר יד כדי להשתמש בדבר המוקצה אינו פשוט ע'  חזו"א

Ty.

OK, re the boneh question. Here's a complication: when my succah is close to the house it is under the 2' overhang. It is still kosher because of the other 3 walls.
I am mesupak if. There is a din dofen akumah on a wall that is not being machshir the succa. (Assuming that dofen akumah is possible in this scenario, - where the sechach possul is much higher than the succah)
The nafka Mina would be whether or not one may sit under this area if its less that 4 tefachim.
To our question, would this constitute a movement that is machshir this area of the secach/defanos?
Is it possible that one may not move the succa in even on col hamoed according to those that don't permit taking down a succah on chol hamoed?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on October 01, 2015, 09:41:55 AM
Ty.

OK, re the boneh question. Here's a complication: when my succah is close to the house it is under the 2' overhang. It is still kosher because of the other 3 walls.
I am mesupak if. There is a din dofen akumah on a wall that is not being machshir the succa. (Assuming that dofen akumah is possible in this scenario, - where the sechach possul is much higher than the succah)
The nafka Mina would be whether or not one may sit under this area if its less that 4 tefachim.
To our question, would this constitute a movement that is machshir this area of the secach/defanos?
Is it possible that one may not move the succa in even on col hamoed according to those that don't permit taking down a succah on chol hamoed?

I think we need a pic :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 01, 2015, 11:14:36 AM
I think we need a pic :)
Here you go

(http://i59.tinypic.com/167rvqr.jpg)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gtyossi on October 01, 2015, 11:46:08 AM
We have a commercial keuring machine. I have been using it and most the coffees we have here are kosher. Someone just starting bringing in campbells soup mix k cup and now I am concerned that it cant be used. I dont want to kasher the machine before each use. Should I consider the machine treif?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gubevo18 on October 01, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
We have a commercial keuring machine. I have been using it and most the coffees we have here are kosher. Someone just starting bringing in campbells soup mix k cup and now I am concerned that it cant be used. I dont want to kasher the machine before each use. Should I consider the machine treif?
Not necessarily. Depending on what it's made of if you run the machine once without anything that can be considered kashering. Ask your LOR that's what mine told me once.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on October 01, 2015, 12:39:17 PM
Not necessarily. Depending on what it's made of if you run the machine once without anything that can be considered kashering. Ask your LOR that's what mine told me once.
take a look at the Keurig thread. It's real tarfus , not just a chashash. and there is always a little residue left even after running it empty
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gtyossi on October 01, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
take a look at the Keurig thread. It's real tarfus , not just a chashash. and there is always a little residue left even after running it empty
Link?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Ergel on October 02, 2015, 01:29:36 AM
Ty.

OK, re the boneh question. Here's a complication: when my succah is close to the house it is under the 2' overhang. It is still kosher because of the other 3 walls.
I am mesupak if. There is a din dofen akumah on a wall that is not being machshir the succa. (Assuming that dofen akumah is possible in this scenario, - where the sechach possul is much higher than the succah)
The nafka Mina would be whether or not one may sit under this area if its less that 4 tefachim.
To our question, would this constitute a movement that is machshir this area of the secach/defanos?
Is it possible that one may not move the succa in even on col hamoed according to those that don't permit taking down a succah on chol hamoed?

Fairly sure it's pashut that that is dofen akumah. Don't think that would assur you from moving it on chol hamoed but understand why that could present a real challenge on yuntif
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2015, 01:41:49 AM
Link?
Here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3920.msg1267886#msg1267886)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on October 02, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Ty.

OK, re the boneh question. Here's a complication: when my succah is close to the house it is under the 2' overhang. It is still kosher because of the other 3 walls.
I am mesupak if. There is a din dofen akumah on a wall that is not being machshir the succa. (Assuming that dofen akumah is possible in this scenario, - where the sechach possul is much higher than the succah)
The nafka Mina would be whether or not one may sit under this area if its less that 4 tefachim.
To our question, would this constitute a movement that is machshir this area of the secach/defanos?
Is it possible that one may not move the succa in even on col hamoed according to those that don't permit taking down a succah on chol hamoed?

This would be dofen akuma but I don't think your nafka mina is true without schach kasher on the other side. If it would be a three wall sukka with open air on the other side IIRC you still would not be able to sit there.

In this case the movement would be making a mechitza materes which Orchos Shabbos 9 footnote 60 I think it is brings from R Shlomo Zalman that it would be assur. An eitza for that would be to have schch pasul there so that it would not be usable even after it is moved.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 07, 2015, 06:47:32 PM
Ty.

OK, re the boneh question. Here's a complication: when my succah is close to the house it is under the 2' overhang. It is still kosher because of the other 3 walls.
I am mesupak if. There is a din dofen akumah on a wall that is not being machshir the succa. (Assuming that dofen akumah is possible in this scenario, - where the sechach possul is much higher than the succah)
The nafka Mina would be whether or not one may sit under this area if its less that 4 tefachim.
To our question, would this constitute a movement that is machshir this area of the secach/defanos?
Is it possible that one may not move the succa in even on col hamoed according to those that don't permit taking down a succah on chol hamoed?
Probably not nogea any longer, but your shaila may be dependent on the machlokes rashi and tosafos of what the din of dofen akuma means. Whether is see it as if the entire wall is crooked from the base up, or it's as if the wall bends 90o at its top. I don't remember exact MM but its in masches sukka. IIRC, tosafos alone mentions that the NM would be if it's permitted to sit under that portion of schach pasul.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 07, 2015, 07:39:48 PM
Probably not nogea any longer, but your shaila may be dependent on the machlokes rashi and tosafos of what the din of dofen akuma means. Whether is see it as if the entire wall is crooked from the base up, or it's as if the wall bends 90o at its top. I don't remember exact MM but its in masches sukka. IIRC, tosafos alone mentions that the NM would be if it's permitted to sit under that portion of schach pasul.
The nm that I posted was incorrect. We pasken that one may not sit under a DA but if the pesul is less than 4 tefachim it would not need a din DA and would therefore be like regular SP where u could sit.
Btw the sofek of the MB in 632-4 applies here because the SP is much higher than the dofen.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 07, 2015, 07:40:33 PM


The nm that I posted was incorrect. We pasken that one may not sit under a DA, but if the pesul is less than 4 tefachim, it would not need a din DA and would therefore be like regular SP where u could sit.
Btw the sofek of the MB in 632-4 applies here because the SP is much higher than the dofen.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on October 08, 2015, 09:58:17 PM
Where is it mentioned not to say tachnun from after sukkos till beginning of cheshvon
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on October 09, 2015, 01:09:57 AM
Where is it mentioned not to say tachnun from after sukkos till beginning of cheshvon
Kitzur shulchan aruch.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on October 09, 2015, 01:11:28 AM
Kitzur shulchan aruch.
thanx
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Where is it mentioned not to say tachnun from after sukkos till beginning of cheshvon
Ashkenaz says
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 09:26:00 AM
Why is it OK to eat blood rare, unsalted, roasted meat?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on October 09, 2015, 09:32:04 AM
Why is it OK to eat blood rare, unsalted, roasted meat?
Whats the possible issue(s)?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on October 09, 2015, 09:32:55 AM
Why is it OK to eat blood rare, unsalted, roasted meat?
IINM the blood will leave the meat while roasting.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 09:45:48 AM
IINM the blood will leave the meat while roasting.
What's the shiur of "roasting"?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on October 09, 2015, 10:57:09 AM
What's the shiur of "roasting"?
I don't know.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Brian93 on October 09, 2015, 11:03:52 AM
What's the shiur of "roasting"?
And blood which doesn't come out is mutar. = no shiur
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 11:34:52 AM
And blood which doesn't come out is mutar. = no shiur
I see what you're trying to do..
What if I now cook the blood rare meat?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Brian93 on October 09, 2015, 11:35:55 AM
I see what you're trying to do..
What if I now cook the blood rare meat?
Assur. I'm not sure what the shiur of roasting would be for that
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 11:37:03 AM
Assur. I'm not sure what the shiur of roasting would be for that
Well that's the $40,000 question.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on October 09, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
Well that's the $40,000 question.
Ohh, give me a deposit and you'll have the answer within minutes..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 11:44:31 AM
I see what you're trying to do..
What if I now cook the blood rare meat?

Assur. I'm not sure what the shiur of roasting would be for that
Also, do we pasken that chewing or cutting/grinding makes the blood ossur even without cooking? (Chopped liver)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 11:45:43 AM
Ohh, give me a deposit and you'll have the answer within minutes..
Do your best, il ask the boss to cut you a check asap. No guarantee.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Brian93 on October 09, 2015, 11:50:31 AM
Also, do we pasken that chewing or cutting/grinding makes the blood ossur even without cooking? (Chopped liver)
IINM there's a difference between chewing and grinding/cutting by mlicha.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Brian93 on October 09, 2015, 11:51:05 AM
I see what you're trying to do..
What if I now cook the blood rare meat?
Do you usually cook meat after a BBQ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 09, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Do you usually cook meat after a BBQ?
You want a practical application: I chop liver after broiling. How much to broil?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: shlonx on October 09, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
Where is it mentioned not to say tachnun from after sukkos till beginning of cheshvon

See below
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on October 09, 2015, 03:02:51 PM
See below
Thanx
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on October 10, 2015, 10:11:11 PM
I see what you're trying to do..
What if I now cook the blood rare meat?
If more then 3 days have passed between the shchitah and the roasting, then you cannot cook it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Brian93 on October 10, 2015, 10:18:02 PM
If more then 3 days have passed between the shchitah and the roasting, then you cannot cook it
He's wondering what the of roasting is to get all the blood out so you would be able to cook it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on October 10, 2015, 10:40:34 PM
שלחן ערוך סימן סט סעיף יב
בשר ששהה ג' ימים מעת לעת בלא מליחה -- נתייבש דמו בתוכו ולא יצא עוד על ידי מליחה ואין לאוכלו מבושל אלא צלי. ואחר שצלאו לא יבשלנו. ואם בישלו -- מותר.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 10, 2015, 10:43:32 PM
שלחן ערוך סימן סט סעיף יב
בשר ששהה ג' ימים מעת לעת בלא מליחה -- נתייבש דמו בתוכו ולא יצא עוד על ידי מליחה ואין לאוכלו מבושל אלא צלי. ואחר שצלאו לא יבשלנו. ואם בישלו -- מותר.
I'm talking toch 3.

It's a simple question. What is the shiur tzli that is matir without melicha?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on October 10, 2015, 11:45:16 PM
In the books it says until it's dry
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 11, 2015, 12:01:53 AM
In the books it says until it's dry
That sounds VERY well done..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on October 11, 2015, 01:08:35 AM
If I'm not mistaken: officially it needs to be ראוי לאכילה which means half way (some say 2/3) done. However since we are not בקיא in this, therefore it needs to be roasted until it is dry on the outside with no juice running out
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on October 11, 2015, 01:18:42 AM

It's a simple question. What is the shiur tzli that is matir without melicha?

In the books it says until it's dry
The simple answer is either edible or until the OUTSIDE is dry. meaning, IIUC, rare is fine. Keep in mind that roasting without melicha is only an option when you don't have salt, or when salt won't help (i.e. liver)
mareh mekomos - YD 69:21 and taz there; 73:1 and shach, 76:2 in Rema he says 50% cooked, and see 76:6
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on October 11, 2015, 01:19:17 AM
with no juice running out
masmaos of 76:6 is not like this
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 11, 2015, 10:38:57 AM
The simple answer is either edible or until the OUTSIDE is dry. meaning, IIUC, rare is fine. Keep in mind that roasting without melicha is only an option when you don't have salt, or when salt won't help (i.e. liver)
mareh mekomos - YD 69:21 and taz there; 73:1 and shach, 76:2 in Rema he says 50% cooked, and see 76:6
Ty
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on October 11, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
masmaos of 76:6 is not like this
מחבר סט, כא
"עד שיזוב כל דמו"
ט"ז ס"ק נד
"מפני שאין הנשים בקיאות בדבר נוהגים לתלות כ"כ עד שיתייבש מבחוץ"
So I guess when it dry on the outside that's considered no juice running out
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 11, 2015, 02:10:51 PM
It seems that this dialogue will go on for so long until the three days from shechita will have passed already...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 11, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
It seems that this dialogue will go on for so long until the three days from shechita will have passed already...
Nah. We're good. Put a fork in it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 11, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Nah. We're good. Put a fork in it.
Then the juice will seep out, and the outside won't be dry anymore...  :(
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yelped on October 11, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
The simple answer is either edible or until the OUTSIDE is dry. meaning, IIUC, rare is fine. Keep in mind that roasting without melicha is only an option when you don't have salt, or when salt won't help (i.e. liver)
mareh mekomos - YD 69:21 and taz there; 73:1 and shach, 76:2 in Rema he says 50% cooked, and see 76:6

Great answer!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yoruel on October 12, 2015, 11:39:05 AM
How many of you knew baby boy born via c-section on shabbos does not have a bris on shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: JoeyShmoe on October 12, 2015, 11:50:03 AM
How many of you knew baby boy born via c-section on shabbos does not have a bris on shabbos.
Why not?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on October 12, 2015, 11:58:01 AM
How many of you knew baby boy born via c-section on shabbos does not have a bris on shabbos.
That's correct.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 12, 2015, 12:04:31 PM
How many of you knew baby boy born via c-section on shabbos does not have a bris on shabbos.
I know. A friend of mine's son.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 12, 2015, 12:05:51 PM
Why not?
Not considered a proper leida, and therefore not doche shabbos. (I think)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on October 12, 2015, 12:08:57 PM
Not considered a proper leida, and therefore not doche shabbos. (I think)
doesnt have tumas leida and therefore not doche shabbos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: JoeyShmoe on October 12, 2015, 12:11:56 PM
Not considered a proper leida, and therefore not doche shabbos. (I think)
Interesting, I knew that they don't have a Pidyon Haben since it's not considered "פטר רחם" (since the baby doesn't come out of the birth canal), never knew this though
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: JoeyShmoe on October 12, 2015, 12:12:50 PM
doesnt have tumas leida and therefore not doche shabbos
Why does Bris being Doche Shabbos have anything to do with Tumas Leida (asking to understand, not attacking)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on October 12, 2015, 12:14:30 PM
Why does Bris being Doche Shabbos have anything to do with Tumas Leida (asking to understand, not attacking)
IIRC, the pasuk of bayom hashmini is written in the parsha of tumas leida, and thats the pasuk which teaches us the bris is doche shabbos if its day 8 (that part is definitely true, the "IIRC" is on this next part), so the gemora connects the 2 and there has to be tumas leida to be doche shabbos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on October 12, 2015, 12:14:51 PM
Someone once invited his whole family to his town for shabess for his sons bris, shabess morning he found out that he cannot make the bris on shabbos as it was a c-section.....
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: JoeyShmoe on October 12, 2015, 12:16:07 PM
IIRC, the pasuk of bayom hashmini is written in the parsha of tumas leida, and thats the pasuk which teaches us the bris is doche shabbos if its day 8 (that part is definitely true, the "IIRC" is on this next part), so the gemora connects the 2 and there has to be tumas leida to be doche shabbos
Good to know, thanks!!
Someone once invited his whole family to his town for shabess for his sons bris, shabess morning he found out that he cannot make the bris on shabbos as it was a c-section.....
Ouch!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 12, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
Ouch!
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 12, 2015, 12:18:33 PM
How many of you knew baby boy born via c-section on shabbos does not have a bris on shabbos.
Yup. My brother just had a baby a few weeks ago...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mordygross on October 12, 2015, 12:20:00 PM
Not considered a proper leida, and therefore not doche shabbos. (I think)

שולחן ערוך (יו"ד סי' רסו ס"י): "קטן שנולד כשהוא מהול, ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות, ואנדרוגינוס, ויוצא דופן, ויליד בית שלא טבלה אמו עד שילדה, אף על פי שנימולים לשמונה אינם דוחים את השבת".
ושו"ע (או"ח סי' שלא ס"ה): "אנדרוגינוס ונולד בין השמשות ונולד כשהוא מהול ויוצא דופן וכותית שילדה ואח"כ נתגיירה ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות אין מילתן דוחה שבת
ובאר המשנה ברורה (ס"ק יח) שהמנויים בהלכה זו אין דוחים שבת משום ספק במילתם – "חוץ מיוצא דופן וא"י שילדה התם הטעם משום דאין טמאים בטומאת לידה ולכמה תנאי בעינן כסדר האמור בפרשת תזריע דאשה כשהיא טמאה לידה בנה נמול לשמונה".

pulled this out of a wiktext teshuva at https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%91%D7%9C_%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%95_%D7%99%D7%91_%D7%99%D7%98
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 12, 2015, 12:22:01 PM
IIRC, the pasuk of bayom hashmini is written in the parsha of tumas leida, and thats the pasuk which teaches us the bris is doche shabbos if its day 8 (that part is definitely true, the "IIRC" is on this next part), so the gemora connects the 2 and there has to be tumas leida to be doche shabbos
FTFY
שולחן ערוך (יו"ד סי' רסו ס"י): "קטן שנולד כשהוא מהול, ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות, ואנדרוגינוס, ויוצא דופן, ויליד בית שלא טבלה אמו עד שילדה, אף על פי שנימולים לשמונה אינם דוחים את השבת".
ושו"ע (או"ח סי' שלא ס"ה): "אנדרוגינוס ונולד בין השמשות ונולד כשהוא מהול ויוצא דופן וכותית שילדה ואח"כ נתגיירה ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות אין מילתן דוחה שבת
ובאר המשנה ברורה (ס"ק יח) שהמנויים בהלכה זו אין דוחים שבת משום ספק במילתם – "חוץ מיוצא דופן וא"י שילדה התם הטעם משום דאין טמאים בטומאת לידה ולכמה תנאי בעינן כסדר האמור בפרשת תזריע דאשה כשהיא טמאה לידה בנה נמול לשמונה".

pulled this out of a wiktext teshuva at https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%91%D7%9C_%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%95_%D7%99%D7%91_%D7%99%D7%98

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: JoeyShmoe on October 12, 2015, 12:23:35 PM
שולחן ערוך (יו"ד סי' רסו ס"י): "קטן שנולד כשהוא מהול, ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות, ואנדרוגינוס, ויוצא דופן, ויליד בית שלא טבלה אמו עד שילדה, אף על פי שנימולים לשמונה אינם דוחים את השבת".
ושו"ע (או"ח סי' שלא ס"ה): "אנדרוגינוס ונולד בין השמשות ונולד כשהוא מהול ויוצא דופן וכותית שילדה ואח"כ נתגיירה ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות אין מילתן דוחה שבת
ובאר המשנה ברורה (ס"ק יח) שהמנויים בהלכה זו אין דוחים שבת משום ספק במילתם – "חוץ מיוצא דופן וא"י שילדה התם הטעם משום דאין טמאים בטומאת לידה ולכמה תנאי בעינן כסדר האמור בפרשת תזריע דאשה כשהיא טמאה לידה בנה נמול לשמונה".

pulled this out of a wiktext teshuva at https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%91%D7%9C_%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%95_%D7%99%D7%91_%D7%99%D7%98
Nice! Thanks!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on October 12, 2015, 12:32:59 PM
Ouch!
Yups, quite embarrassing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 12, 2015, 12:34:30 PM
Yups, quite embarrassing.
He can tell everyone that the baby was too yellow in the last minute...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on October 12, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
He can tell everyone that the baby was too yellow in the last minute...
Next time  :D
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 12, 2015, 12:47:53 PM
Next time  :D
Is that post a pic of the yellow baby...?  ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on October 13, 2015, 02:17:16 AM
Someone once invited his whole family to his town for shabess for his sons bris, shabess morning he found out that he cannot make the bris on shabbos as it was a c-section.....
Without knowing the whole story, that's ridiculous. The mohel definitely knew the halacha (I hope) and unless it was his first bris it should have been his forst question re a shabbos bris.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 13, 2015, 06:22:11 AM
Without knowing the whole story, that's ridiculous. The mohel definitely knew the halacha (I hope) and unless it was his first bris it should have been his forst question re a shabbos bris.

It's usually the smaller mohalim that get the out of town Shabbos Brissim...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on October 13, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
Without knowing the whole story, that's ridiculous. The mohel definitely knew the halacha (I hope) and unless it was his first bris it should have been his forst question re a shabbos bris.

A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on October 13, 2015, 11:25:50 AM
A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
Didn't know that.  Makes the Kasha stronger
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on October 13, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
Why's that ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on October 13, 2015, 11:34:19 AM
Not exactly sure. has to do with chillul shabbas and sakanah. I think its beferish in shu"a.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Willie on October 13, 2015, 11:46:00 AM
Are seven eleven donuts kosher?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on October 13, 2015, 12:55:12 PM
A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
that doesn't make sense so if a father wants to cut his ben bochur whats he supposed to do if its a shabbos bris? wait til sunday?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yelped on October 13, 2015, 01:09:40 PM
that doesn't make sense so if a father wants to cut his ben bochur whats he supposed to do if its a shabbos bris? wait til sunday?

Look it up. In Pischei Teshuva and Darkei Teshuva there.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Hidden on October 13, 2015, 01:15:52 PM
that doesn't make sense so if a father wants to cut his ben bochur whats he supposed to do if its a shabbos bris? wait til sunday?
Use a different mohel
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on October 13, 2015, 02:07:48 PM
that doesn't make sense so if a father wants to cut his ben bochur whats he supposed to do if its a shabbos bris? wait til sunday?
He needs to do a bris beforehand on a weekday. Maybe post in the 'need a favor thread' but good luck w ith that.
Or daven for a weekday birth.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on October 13, 2015, 02:14:54 PM
A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
Not exactly sure. has to do with chillul shabbas and sakanah. I think its beferish in shu"a.
The reason is that on shabbos only one mohel is allowed to do the bris (that's the reason why when a father wants to do just part [i.e. chituch only] he has no chance on shabbos) because the bris is only doche shabbos for one person to be mechalel shabbos not two. By the first (few) bris(sim) anyone performs there's a chashash that he may faint from the sight and it (/they) therefore requires an experienced mohel as omed al gabav in case he needs to take over. If a mohel's first bris is on shabbos there's the chashash of fainting, thereby leading to more than one person being mechalel shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: beeweegee on October 23, 2015, 11:32:57 AM
If you mean to say shehakol on a coffee, and you accidentally and mindlessly say haetz, do you say boruch sheim and move on with life or should/can you run and grab an apple?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on October 23, 2015, 11:50:48 AM
If you mean to say shehakol on a coffee, and you accidentally and mindlessly say haetz, do you say boruch sheim and move on with life or should/can you run and grab an apple?
say boruch shaim and move on, because you didnt have in mind to eat the apple so you would have to make a new bracha anyways
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: shlonx on October 23, 2015, 04:03:39 PM
Are you allowed to reply "Yes" to the question "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?"
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chaimmayer on October 23, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
If you mean to say shehakol on a coffee, and you accidentally and mindlessly say haetz, do you say boruch sheim and move on with life or should/can you run and grab an apple?
Iirc correctly eating an apple is worse because now you get a bracha levatala and you ate without a bracha
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on October 23, 2015, 04:41:07 PM
Are you allowed to reply "Yes" to the question "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?"
we jews dont swear we affirm
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: shlonx on October 24, 2015, 09:43:19 PM
That was my question: Is that even when someone makes the statement and all you have to do is say "Yes"? Is there a din שומע כעונה by a goy?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on October 25, 2015, 02:16:40 AM
That was my question: Is that even when someone makes the statement and all you have to do is say "Yes"? Is there a din שומע כעונה by a goy?
from what i understand just saying yes is not saying anything they take it as whatever they want
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 02, 2015, 01:26:20 AM
Anyone know a makor for not standing at the 'head' of the bima (facing the baal koreh) during leining?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 02, 2015, 01:52:14 AM
I've heard of it during leining of tochacha, parshiyos bechukosei and ki savo.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on November 02, 2015, 07:02:38 AM
Anyone know a makor for not standing at the 'head' of the bima (facing the baal koreh) during leining?
I think the minhag is that it's disturbing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 02, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
I think the memory is that it's disturbing.
+100000 I hate that especially when they hold the top and try to turn it for you
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mord1 on November 05, 2015, 02:31:38 AM
+100000 I hate that especially when they hold the top and try to turn it for you
yup,
I hope its ok to ask this, but I was wondering if anyone got a psak about opening up a new ff# in order to get a bonus again, if it is within the 18 month window for citi or 24 month for chase etc... Is that stealing since if you asked them if you can do that, I believe they would say no? (sorry if this is to blunt)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 05, 2015, 08:09:26 AM
yup,
I hope its ok to ask this, but I was wondering if anyone got a psak about opening up a new ff# in order to get a bonus again, if it is within the 18 month window for citi or 24 month for chase etc... Is that stealing since if you asked them if you can do that, I believe they would say no? (sorry if this is to blunt)
That's more of an ethics question see the ethics board
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mord1 on November 05, 2015, 08:43:15 AM
That's more of an ethics question see the ethics board
I thought about that after, but I think there is a gineveia Sheila first and then you can discuss the ethics?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 05, 2015, 08:45:16 AM
I thought about that after, but I think there is a gineveia Sheila first and then you can discuss the ethics?
There is gineveia by a goy
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 05, 2015, 09:06:10 AM
Are you allowed to tell the kohanim to leave to give someone else the aliya?
(I'm not asking if its done because I've seen it done)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Tzfas on November 05, 2015, 10:52:23 AM
Are you allowed to tell the kohanim to leave to give someone else the aliya?
(I'm not asking if its done because I've seen it done)
You are allowed to ask them to leave, but they can refuse. Also if its a privately owned shul the owner may take and give the first aliya to whom ever he wants. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 05, 2015, 11:13:03 AM
You are allowed to ask them to leave, but they can refuse. Also if its a privately owned shul the owner may take and give the first aliya to whom ever he wants.
Is buying the aliya enough to be like the owner?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Tzfas on November 05, 2015, 11:19:59 AM
Is buying the aliya enough to be like the owner?
no, only owner of the shul
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 05, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
no, only owner of the shul
Thank you
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mord1 on November 05, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
There is gineveia by a goy
maskim, that's my shaila! nu?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on November 05, 2015, 11:26:12 AM
You are allowed to ask them to leave, but they can refuse. Also if its a privately owned shul the owner may take and give the first aliya to whom ever he wants.

A) does this apply to shteibels today ?

B) does this apply if you rent from a big shul? for my Bar Mitzva we rented the small "beit meddrish" in a big Shul would my dad have been able to bypass a cohen if he wanted to
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 05, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
A) does this apply to shteibels today ?

B) does this apply if you rent from a big shul? for my Bar Mitzva we rented the small "beit meddrish" in a big Shul would my dad have been able to bypass a cohen if he wanted to
Hit the nail on the head with my next questions
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on November 05, 2015, 11:29:38 AM
You are allowed to ask them to leave, but they can refuse. Also if its a privately owned shul the owner may take and give the first aliya to whom ever he wants.
The related din to that is the fact that you almost never need to say birshus hakohen when leading a zimun, because usually there's a baal habayis, and the kadima of kohen doesn't apply there.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 05, 2015, 05:02:57 PM
The related din to that is the fact that you almost never need to say birshus hakohen when leading a zimun, because usually there's a baal habayis, and the kadima of kohen doesn't apply there.
I think you may have missed the point. It's a mitzva for the bah"b to be mechabed the kohen to bentch (though he may choose someone else).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on November 05, 2015, 05:35:02 PM
I think you may have missed the point. It's a mitzva for the bah"b to be mechabed the kohen to bentch (though he may choose someone else).
I have missed no point, nor did I make this up myself. I don't remember all the details because it was a long time ago, but one of my rabbeim gave a lengthy shiur dealing with this, and he showed how there are 2 separate dinim. There's a general din to give kadima to a kohen that applies in certain circumstances. There's a separate din that for public leining and seudos, in order that there shouldn't be fighting over kavod, the kohen comes first. Neither din applies to betching in someone's house.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on November 14, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
What's the Halacha of giving business to someone who refuses to close on shabbos ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Tzfas on November 14, 2015, 09:34:04 PM
What's the Halacha of giving business to someone who refuses to close on shabbos ?
That's a very broad question,  depends if he is doing it especially for you, Etc. also there is dry cut HALACHA, and some things are mutter but better not.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on November 14, 2015, 09:39:19 PM
That's a very broad question,  depends if he is doing it especially for you, Etc. also there is dry cut HALACHA, and some things are mutter but better not.
My barber doesn't wanna close on shabbos. People have tried convincing him but to no avail. People have told him they won't come anymore but that still hasn't changed his mind.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Tzfas on November 14, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
There is no איסור but of course its better to go to a shommer Shabbos one and refrain from giving one who is not any חיזוק.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 15, 2015, 01:05:14 PM
My barber doesn't wanna close on shabbos. People have tried convincing him but to no avail. People have told him they won't come anymore but that still hasn't changed his mind.
He's probably seen that it's an empty threat, or his Sh"Sh customers are of minority of his.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on November 15, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
Someone told the barber that he told others not to come anymore. Do I need to find a new barber ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 18, 2015, 02:18:19 AM
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on November 18, 2015, 09:46:58 AM
Someone told the barber that he told others not to come anymore. Do I need to find a new barber ?

as long as he is not doing malacha specifically for you on shobbos you should be fine.

you arent obligated to go by someone else's ultimatum.

this all assumes he is jewish, that was never actually said.

ETA even if you convince him to close his business on shobbos I doubt he will actually be shomer shobbos 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 18, 2015, 01:46:04 PM
as long as he is not doing malacha specifically for you on shobbos you should be fine.

you arent obligated to go by someone else's ultimatum.

this all assumes he is jewish, that was never actually said.

ETA even if you convince him to close his business on shobbos I doubt he will actually be shomer shobbos
Every melacha less that he now does is one less chiyuv kareis. Is that not enough of a reason?!

And besides, one thing leads to the next; aka mitzva goreres mitzva.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 18, 2015, 10:26:44 PM
Every melacha less that he now does is one less chiyuv kareis. Is that not enough of a reason?!

And besides, one thing leads to the next; aka mitzva goreres mitzva.
I'm sure blackmailing him will have the effect of getting him to do many more Mitzvos...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 18, 2015, 10:41:35 PM
I'm sure blackmailing him will have the effect of getting him to do many more Mitzvos...
You missed the point. Let me quote what I was responding to:
as long as he is not doing malacha specifically for you on shobbos you should be fine.

you arent obligated to go by someone else's ultimatum.

this all assumes he is jewish, that was never actually said.

ETA even if you convince him to close his business on shobbos I doubt he will actually be shomer shobbos 
A. Nothing in that post mentioned anything about threatening to leave or tell other customers to stop using him.
B. Convincing is not blackmailing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 12:27:11 AM



ETA even if you convince him to close his business on shobbos I doubt he will actually be shomer shobbos
many gedolim and rabbonim in the past century and beyond have placed great emphasis on coaxing Jewish store owners to close on shabbos despite them being otherwise obvious mechalelei shabbos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on November 19, 2015, 12:33:42 AM
Let me get this straight. This non-observant JEWISH barber serves a predominantly frum clientele... and he's not booked up for Friday night invitations for the rest of the year?

TimT, you are the OP of this question. Will you please invite the Jewish barber to your house for shabbos?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 19, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Let me get this straight. This non-observant JEWISH barber serves a predominantly frum clientele... and he's not booked up for Friday night invitations for the rest of the year?

TimT, you are the OP of this question. Will you please invite the Jewish barber to your house for shabbos?
#shabbosproject
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on November 19, 2015, 12:42:15 AM
What does it have to do with that? Hachnasas orchim is EVERY shabbos.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 12:43:49 AM

What does it have to do with that? Hachnasas orchim is EVERY shabbos.
+1
And Every day
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 12:44:44 AM
What town is this barber in?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on November 19, 2015, 07:00:48 AM
Let me get this straight. This non-observant JEWISH barber serves a predominantly frum clientele... and he's not booked up for Friday night invitations for the rest of the year?

TimT, you are the OP of this question. Will you please invite the Jewish barber to your house for shabbos?
He's an older gentleman. He has jewish as well as non-jewish customers. People have tried everything, but he has his mind set that Sunday is the only day he could close as that's the only day he could go visit his grandchildren wherever. Some of the non-jewish customers come specially on shabbos as there won't be long lines.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on November 19, 2015, 07:01:59 AM
What town is this barber in?
Borderline BP/Kensington
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Emkay on November 19, 2015, 07:14:51 AM
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/
how is this not huge hock?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 19, 2015, 08:19:55 AM
how is this not huge hock?
It's interesting
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Emkay on November 19, 2015, 08:25:42 AM
It's interesting
I expected a bigger reaction. Especially out of you
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 19, 2015, 08:57:03 AM
Borderline BP/Kensington
Which barber?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 08:58:43 AM

how is this not huge hock?
Old story...at least for me
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 09:20:55 AM
how is this not huge hock?
Al pi halacha there's no issue. On the hashkafa side there's a problem that if this becomes the norm people will forget hilchos treafia etc.
Maybe this will help start the hock
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 09:28:49 AM
I believe there is a similar project underway in the US
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gubevo18 on November 19, 2015, 09:35:14 AM
how is this not huge hock?
depends where you hang out :)
Al pi halacha there's no issue. On the hashkafa side there's a problem that if this becomes the norm people will forget hilchos treafia etc.
Maybe this will help start the hock
-1 I belive the Halacha is that if one were to mix with a non Ben pekuah then it would be assur to shecht that animal. That being said this farm would have to be extra extra careful in monitoring  that not one of these animals gets out because if it does it can create serious Halacha shailos in regard to the kashrus status of all the other cows in the world.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on November 19, 2015, 09:39:49 AM
I belive the Halacha is that if one were to mix with a non Ben pekuah then it would be assur to shecht that animal.
Source?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 09:42:19 AM

depends where you hang out :)-1 I belive the Halacha is that if one were to mix with a non Ben pekuah then it would be assur to shecht that animal. That being said this farm would have to be extra extra careful in monitoring  that not one of these animals gets out because if it does it can create serious Halacha shailos in regard to the kashrus status of all the other cows in the world.
I think the US location had very tight security and surveillance due to this and other concerns if foul play
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 09:43:12 AM
depends where you hang out :)-1 I belive the Halacha is that if one were to mix with a non Ben pekuah then it would be assur to shecht that animal. That being said this farm would have to be extra extra careful in monitoring  that not one of these animals gets out because if it does it can create serious Halacha shailos in regard to the kashrus status of all the other cows in the world.
Obviously we're discussing that they are being extra careful.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 09:45:24 AM


Maybe this will help start the hock
The hock will really start when the conventional butchers feel threatened by the lower prices, they will be throwing everything but the kitchen sink to shut this thing down
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Iz on November 19, 2015, 09:52:15 AM
Al pi halacha there's no issue. On the hashkafa side there's a problem that if this becomes the norm people will forget hilchos treafia etc.
Maybe this will help start the hock
Rav Chaim Shlit"a doesn't seem to have any problem with this. I wonder if there are letters from any other gedolim...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 09:59:45 AM


depends where you hang out :)-1 I belive the Halacha is that if one were to mix with a non Ben pekuah then it would be assur to shecht that animal.

Not saying your wrong, I understand why they would all loose their Ben pekua status but why would it be assured to shecht?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 10:01:50 AM
Rav Chaim Shlit"a doesn't seem to have any problem with this. I wonder if there are letters from any other gedolim...
Any source from R Chaim aside from the website says that says "he exchanged letter with R Chaim "?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 10:11:20 AM

Source?
In YD siman 13 it states that if a Ben  Pekuah has a child with a regular animal, that child cannot be eaten even with shechitah, maybe that's what he is referring to
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 19, 2015, 10:13:40 AM
I expected a bigger reaction. Especially out of you
I tried to look into this a while back. Doesn't pass the smell test but I can't get to the bottom of it. Waiting for someone to do a full investigation.

Not sure what the real agenda is, not sure why they are making dinners and events, not sure who these people are etc. Etc.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Iz on November 19, 2015, 10:15:11 AM
Any source from R Chaim aside from the website says that says "he exchanged letter with R Chaim "?
Got to dig a little deeper... :)
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/#!r-chaim-k/su7gr
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 10:18:13 AM


Not sure what the real agenda is, not sure why they are making dinners and events, not sure who these people are etc. Etc.
Not sure of agenda? Money, money and money...if takes off can totally dominate kosher meat market
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 10:42:41 AM
Is the milk of a BP milichigs?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 10:43:15 AM
Got to dig a little deeper... :)
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/#!r-chaim-k/su7gr
Looks pretty solid.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on November 19, 2015, 11:24:30 AM
why isnt there the same problems with the hind quarters?

are you allowed to eat the Gid on BP animals?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on November 19, 2015, 11:30:09 AM
can you use something like this to grill on a non kosher grill [ and keep the food kosher ]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RTP9AJ6/ref=gbps_tit_m-4_5142_d0103326?smid=A2JHKVCKV2DXPB&pf_rd_p=2283935142&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=384082011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=13RS3BQ0TN749GG7SB4G

my guess is not, but I have to ask

Also can you grill corn in the husk on a non kosher grill ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on November 19, 2015, 12:23:11 PM
I tried to look into this a while back. Doesn't pass the smell test but I can't get to the bottom of it. Waiting for someone to do a full investigation.

Not sure what the real agenda is, not sure why they are making dinners and events, not sure who these people are etc. Etc.
There's a whole section on their site for Animal Welfare, so... there's that.

Is the milk of a BP milichigs?
No.
why isnt there the same problems with the hind quarters?

are you allowed to eat the Gid on BP animals?
Yes.

See the letters to R' Chaim, both questions are mentioned (the 4th and 3rd pictures respectively).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 19, 2015, 01:22:34 PM


There's a whole section on their site for Animal Welfare, so... there's that.

Right, not sure if that's some kind of twisted marketing, fund raising or something else.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 19, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
And now more weirdness.

Are they serious? An auditor? Internal controls? I hope they are COSO 2013 compliant  

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/19/731f02287efce2ee2593c3e8eacb540b.jpg)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on November 19, 2015, 01:31:31 PM
And now more weirdness.

Are they serious? An auditor? Internal controls? I hope they are COSO 2013 compliant  

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/19/731f02287efce2ee2593c3e8eacb540b.jpg)
They posted the whole report:
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/#!blank/ytmws
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 19, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
They posted the whole report:
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/#!blank/ytmws
Loving this. Especially page 7 about the rabbi sampling
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 19, 2015, 01:37:29 PM
This is definitely not marketed for the traditional kosher consumer. Not sure who would be interested though.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Venilla on November 19, 2015, 01:44:02 PM
Is the milk of a BP milichigs?
BP?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on November 19, 2015, 01:46:44 PM

BP?
Ben Pekuah if you are following thread
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 01:57:24 PM
why isnt there the same problems with the hind quarters?

are you allowed to eat the Gid on BP animals?
Gid of BP is muttar. Only the blood is assur
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
Did anyone find that R Chaim says that he can breed them to sell? I only saw him discuss the koshrus status. There may be a difference between mass production and personal use on a hashkafik level of shema tishkach hilchos nevailah.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on November 19, 2015, 02:51:10 PM
Did anyone find that R Chaim says that he can breed them to sell? I only saw him discuss the koshrus status. There may be a difference between mass production and personal use on a hashkafik level of shema tishkach hilchos nevailah.
5th picture in the tshuvos: להכין עדרי ב"פ לתועלת הרבים.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 19, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Are you guys trying to make a new gezeira?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 19, 2015, 03:54:28 PM
R Chaim says its not meat. Think you can eat it in the 9 days?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 20, 2015, 02:45:25 AM
can you use something like this to grill on a non kosher grill [ and keep the food kosher ]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RTP9AJ6/ref=gbps_tit_m-4_5142_d0103326?smid=A2JHKVCKV2DXPB&pf_rd_p=2283935142&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=384082011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=13RS3BQ0TN749GG7SB4G

my guess is not, but I have to ask

Also can you grill corn in the husk on a non kosher grill ?
If I'm seeing it right I don't see why not.  Definitely if you put a layer of silver foil between.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 20, 2015, 10:33:14 AM
can you use something like this to grill on a non kosher grill [ and keep the food kosher ]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RTP9AJ6/ref=gbps_tit_m-4_5142_d0103326?smid=A2JHKVCKV2DXPB&pf_rd_p=2283935142&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=384082011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=13RS3BQ0TN749GG7SB4G

my guess is not, but I have to ask

Also can you grill corn in the husk on a non kosher grill ?
If I'm seeing it right I don't see why not.  Definitely if you put a layer of silver foil between.
There are acouple of issues here. Grills usually have grease remaining on the racks. This grease will make what is placed upon it treif. Even foil would not help according to the RaMA who says that lichatchila one may not rely on this that keilim are not boleia from each other without rotev. Also, one would need to be extremely careful that no juices from the meat run under the mat since once they do it would certainly cause bliyos. The mat would then need libun chamur.

Regarding the corn there is no reason to say that taam won't go through the husks.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on November 20, 2015, 10:39:36 AM
There are acouple of issues here. Grills usually have grease remaining on the racks. This grease will make what is placed upon it treif. Even foil would not help according to the RaMA who says that lichatchila one may not rely on this that keilim are not boleia from each other without rotev. Also, one would need to be extremely careful that no juices from the meat run under the mat since once they do it would certainly cause bliyos. The mat would then need libun chamur.

.

Is this Rama by hilchos chametz?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 20, 2015, 10:45:32 AM
Is this Rama by hilchos chametz?
basar bicholov
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 20, 2015, 11:09:26 AM
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Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 20, 2015, 11:13:06 AM
שבט הלוי
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 20, 2015, 11:14:31 AM
שבט הלוי
location?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 20, 2015, 12:02:05 PM
Grills usually have grease remaining on the racks.
not disagreeing with anything but this. there's an ongoing libun with a grill, isn't there? foil helps for any rotev between mat and grill, if that's a concern.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 20, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
not disagreeing with anything but this. there's an ongoing libun with a grill, isn't there? foil helps for any rotev between mat and grill, if that's a concern.

The racks would need to be in the coals for long enough not just sitting above them. Pok chazi you will see the grease on the rack. If you see grease you cannot just go and say it had libun...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: chulent613 on November 20, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=47928&st=&pgnum=218
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 21, 2015, 06:12:41 PM


The racks would need to be in the coals for long enough not just sitting above them. Pok chazi you will see the grease on the rack. If you see grease you cannot just go and say it had libun...

If you leave a grill on for a few min without food all the grease gets burnt off.
I'm just saying the metzius.

(It's nogeya lemaaseh- if you don't have ss grill, you should make sure not to burn it off at the end of the season, or it will rust.)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 21, 2015, 06:50:11 PM

If you leave a grill on for a few min without food all the grease gets burnt off.
I'm just saying the metzius.

(It's nogeya lemaaseh- if you don't have ss grill, you should make sure not to burn it off at the end of the season, or it will rust.)
Not true. Go look
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 27, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
If a person signs a loan shtar by email, is that enough?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 27, 2015, 01:23:13 PM
If a person signs a loan shtar by email, is that enough?
Is it enough to be a shtar?
Through email
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 27, 2015, 01:23:57 PM
Is it enough to be a shtar?
Through email
Why not. The question is about the signing
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on November 27, 2015, 01:25:07 PM
Why not. The question is about the signing
Well if its an I owe you how can it be proven true maybe you made it up...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 27, 2015, 01:28:30 PM
What is your question exactly? Is a scanned document permissible evidence or if a digital signature or an email is admissible?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 27, 2015, 01:29:33 PM
What is your question exactly? Is a scanned document permissible evidence or if a digital signature or an email is admissible?
Email signature
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 27, 2015, 01:47:18 PM
Email signature
I have no idea if we go by minhag hamedina in this, but digital signatures are basically legally binding.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on November 29, 2015, 07:50:21 AM
If you do mechiras chametz online, does it work?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 29, 2015, 07:58:55 AM
If you do mechiras chametz online, does it work?
Evidently you can make a kinyan in this chamor online...

http://www.pidyonchamor.org/
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 29, 2015, 01:11:47 PM
Evidently you can make a kinyan in this chamor online...

http://www.pidyonchamor.org/
According to the flyers I saw the kinyan is made by a shliyach
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 29, 2015, 01:31:07 PM
According to the flyers I saw the kinyan is made by a shliyach
Yup. Agree
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 29, 2015, 03:35:18 PM
If you do mechiras chametz online, does it work?
You're not doing a kinyan,  just appointing a shaliach.  So yes.  Pruzbul is a more difficult scenario,  there are sevaros lehatir there as well.  There were articles written RH time,  I can find of there's interest
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 29, 2015, 03:39:07 PM
You're not doing a kinyan,  just appointing a shaliach.  So yes.
-1 You most definitely do a kinyan sudar as a part of mechiras chometz. If you have a shliach do that for you then it would be fine similar to CBC's case
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 29, 2015, 04:46:33 PM
-1 You most definitely do a kinyan sudar as a part of mechiras chometz. If you have a shliach do that for you then it would be fine similar to CBC's case
Take a look at the forms for mechiras chametz online. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on November 29, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
Take a look at the forms for mechiras chametz online.
If in fact there is a question about whether mechiras chametz can be done online, pointing out the fact that the sites that offer it don't require kinyan sudar is not a proof of anything.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on November 29, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
If in fact there is a question about whether mechiras chametz can be done online, pointing out the fact that the sites that offer it don't require kinyan sudar is not a proof of anything.
Of course,  unless there's a reason why.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on November 29, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
If in fact there is a question about whether mechiras chametz can be done online, pointing out the fact that the sites that offer it don't require kinyan sudar is not a proof of anything.
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: koplonko on November 30, 2015, 11:58:42 PM
When we authorize a rabbi to sell our chametz we do not technically require a kinyan sudar. That is because the rabbi is not purchasing our chametz. He is merely acting as our agent to sell it to a non-Jew. We are nevertheless accustomed to perform such an act through raising a garment, or another object belonging to the rabbi, in order to confirm that our request that he act on our behalf is made in earnest.
Now, puttting the Kinyan aside, is online shtar valid?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 01, 2015, 12:14:25 AM
When we authorize a rabbi to sell our chametz we do not technically require a kinyan sudar. That is because the rabbi is not purchasing our chametz. He is merely acting as our agent to sell it to a non-Jew. We are nevertheless accustomed to perform such an act through raising a garment, or another object belonging to the rabbi, in order to confirm that our request that he act on our behalf is made in earnest.
Now, puttting the Kinyan aside, is online shtar valid?
iirc the shtar for mechiras chometz is also not really needed and is more to specify all the conditions and the acceptance of them can technically be done without the actual shtar. That said, someone doing such a mechiras chometz without a shtar or kinyan is certainly not following the accepted minhag.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
Am I allowed to light the menorah in a different city if I'm just going there tonight for a mesiba & coming right back ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on December 06, 2015, 10:52:40 AM
Am I allowed to light the menorah in a different city if I'm just going there tonight for a mesiba & coming right back ?
Why not light at home when you get back? Are you going alone?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2015, 10:55:23 AM
Why not light at home when you get back? Are you going alone?
I'm going with the family. Am I allowed to eat & farbreng all that time without lighting ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 06, 2015, 11:19:46 AM
I'm going with the family. Am I allowed to eat & farbreng all that time without lighting ?
Not mezonos
And don't light there
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2015, 11:30:55 AM
Not mezonos
I'm assuming certainly not hamotzi ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 06, 2015, 11:51:48 AM
I'm assuming certainly not hamotzi ?
right. kevius seudah is the issue
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
Ok, thanks. No point in going to a mesiba & not being able to wash. I'll light, wait, & then go.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Iz on December 06, 2015, 12:10:17 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the previous teshuva, but what basis is there to rely on a psak of an anonymous poster (myself included)? Unless the olam knows each other, and are not really anonymous...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 06, 2015, 12:30:52 PM
To be machmir
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on December 06, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the previous teshuva, but what basis is there to rely on a psak of an anonymous poster (myself included)? Unless the olam knows each other, and are not really anonymous...
The regulars tend to have a pretty good idea of how knowledgeable other regulars are in certain topics.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 12:31:23 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the previous teshuva, but what basis is there to rely on a psak of an anonymous poster (myself included)? Unless the olam knows each other, and are not really anonymous...
These are zil kri bey ravs
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
Ok, thanks. No point in going to a mesiba & not being able to wash. I'll light, wait, & then go.
You can ask a lor for a heter to use a shomer...
Especially if you light inside..
And better if you leave before half hour of the zeman maybe
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
You can ask a lor for a heter to use a shomer...
Especially if you light inside..
And better if you leave before half hour of the zeman maybe
I can't leave till nacht
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2015, 01:27:52 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the previous teshuva, but what basis is there to rely on a psak of an anonymous poster (myself included)? Unless the olam knows each other, and are not really anonymous...
There are rabbonim here on DDF.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on December 06, 2015, 01:29:54 PM
There are rabbonim here on DDF.
For instance?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Achas Veachas on December 06, 2015, 01:36:32 PM
For instance?
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Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on December 06, 2015, 01:46:41 PM
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Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2015, 01:49:35 PM
For instance?
That's up to them :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 06, 2015, 02:02:28 PM
In kovetz halachos he writes that the only way to be allowed to eat is with a shomer including someone still at work.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 02:29:13 PM
In kovetz halachos he writes that the only way to be allowed to eat is with a shomer including someone still at work.
You mean a seuda with washing or more than a kebiea mezonos.
And BTW fwiu the shomer cannot be a participant in the meal, (and the shomer has to be with the mechuyav during the meal?)

There are other poskim that allow using other reminders like alarm clocks beshas hadchack.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 06, 2015, 02:31:22 PM
You mean a seuda with washing or more than a kebiea mezonos.
That should be the case as with other similar cases but is not spelled out in the part which I saw.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 02:35:03 PM
That should be the case as with other similar cases but is not spelled out in the part which I saw.
I'm pretty sure...
It's the same as hilchos mincha
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 06, 2015, 02:37:01 PM
I'm pretty sure...
It's the same as hilchos mincha
that would be one of the many similar cases
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 02:44:41 PM
that would be one of the many similar cases
It would be the source for all similar cases
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 03:26:12 PM
Lemaaseh, the MB in 672.10 says stam eating. But it's very clear by mincha.
I saw or heard recently that chanukah is like mincha. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 06, 2015, 03:36:45 PM
Lemaaseh, the MB in 672.10 says stam eating. But it's very clear by mincha.
I saw or heard recently that chanukah is like mincha.
The source for all is Mincha in gemora shabbos. I wasn't disagreeing with you
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 06, 2015, 03:50:26 PM
The source for all is Mincha in gemora shabbos. I wasn't disagreeing with you
+1. Mb is a little more machmir by Chanukah,  based on his language,  but that's not necessarily universal.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 06, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the previous teshuva, but what basis is there to rely on a psak of an anonymous poster (myself included)? Unless the olam knows each other, and are not really anonymous...
If you're talking about me I've revealed my identity more than once,  and at least once in this thread.  I don't hold of anonymity,  as I've explained in the past.
And definitely no one has to rely on anyone,  if they're asking here they want an answer here.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
+1. Mb is a little more machmir by Chanukah,  based on his language,  but that's not necessarily universal.
His language is vague. There is no reason to be mechadesh that one cannot eat anything IMHO.

Eta maybe pirsumey nissa is worse... Shar hatzion
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 06, 2015, 03:54:47 PM
His language is vague. There is no reason to be mechadesh that one cannot eat anything IMHO.
Maskim.  Heard as much from my rebbeim.
IIRC he mentions plag hamincha,  that would be his chumrah as well.  Haven't seen it in a year though,  so may be wrong
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on December 06, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
I'm not sure now if I said vsein tal umatar by shachris...does that mean I should Daven tashlumin now? (30 min left..)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 04:02:07 PM
I'm not sure now if I said vsein tal umatar by shachris...does that mean I should Daven tashlumin now? (30 min left..)
Yes. After mincha
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on December 06, 2015, 04:09:45 PM

Yes. After mincha
Already davened mincha..just got psak to Daven with tnai for nidava
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on December 06, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
I heard a shita that it's a hiddur to light one menorah for every AU in your household, ask your local rabbi, :) :) :) A Freilichin Chanukah!!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 06, 2015, 04:43:59 PM
I heard a shita that it's a hiddur to light one menorah for every AU in your household, ask your local rabbi, :) :) :) A Freilichin Chanukah!!
You mean ner lichol echad vechad?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on December 06, 2015, 07:41:07 PM
You mean ner lichol echad vechad?
No. Not per SS#, but for each AU.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on December 06, 2015, 07:43:16 PM

No. Not per SS#, but for each AU.
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 06, 2015, 08:02:19 PM
You mean ner lichol echad vechad?
No, mehadrin min hamehadrin. Shitas rashi
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 06, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
, ok ok ok ok
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Venilla on December 06, 2015, 11:43:28 PM
Question: Is one allowed to read this thread in toilet or it's considered Torah?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on December 06, 2015, 11:57:24 PM
Question: Is one allowed to read this thread in toilet or it's considered Torah ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: FlyFirst on December 07, 2015, 01:18:30 AM

If so, maybe you shouldn't take your phone into toilet since it has Torah on it , or is it considered כיס בתוך כיס    ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 07, 2015, 01:23:05 AM
If so, maybe you shouldn't take your phone into toilet since it has Torah on it , or is it considered כיס בתוך כיס    ;)
Mutar. See here: Be’er Moshe kuntres electric 7:111:11:page 169, Shevet Ha’kehusi 1:58, 2:3 Rivevos Ephraim 3:22, Divrei Shalom 4:22:2. - See more at: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/224278/halachically-speaking-halachos-regarding-the-bathroom.html#sthash.XyrOVuGE.dpuf
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 07, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
If driving home from work after zeman hadlaka, can I listen to a shiur or is it better to stare at traffic, listen to music etc?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 07, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
If driving home from work after zeman hadlaka, can I listen to a shiur or is it better to stare at traffic, listen to music etc?
i imagine shiur is fine
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 07, 2015, 10:14:05 AM
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Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 07, 2015, 02:41:37 PM
i imagine shiur is fine


I would like to be mechadesh that if you are out of town at the time if the chiyuv, the halochos of eating and learning don't apply. IE, if you can't fulfil the chiyuv anyway, (cuz you're not home.. Cannot get home any faster anyway.)

 il get a shomer anyway until I can affirm this chiddush.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 07, 2015, 03:19:41 PM

I would like to be mechadesh that if you are out of town at the time if the chiyuv, the halochos of eating and learning don't apply. IE, if you can't fulfil the chiyuv anyway, (cuz you're not home.. Cannot get home any faster anyway.)

 il get a shomer anyway until I can affirm this chiddush.
too bold for me
that would negate the whole problem with chanuka parties
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 07, 2015, 03:28:23 PM
too bold for me
that would negate the whole problem with chanuka parties
There is an assumption that chanukah parties are a problem?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 07, 2015, 04:02:55 PM

I would like to be mechadesh that if you are out of town at the time if the chiyuv, the halochos of eating and learning don't apply. IE, if you can't fulfil the chiyuv anyway, (cuz you're not home.. Cannot get home any faster anyway.)

 il get a shomer anyway until I can affirm this chiddush.


In kovetz halachos he writes that the only way to be allowed to eat is with a shomer including someone still at work.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 07, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
There is an assumption that chanukah parties are a problem?
a chanuka party scheduled not in your home at 5, so lets say you didnt light beforehand bc you had no one to watch the candles, or you had to leave before plag
you miss ideal zman and you cant eat a seuda with mezonos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 07, 2015, 05:59:24 PM

I would like to be mechadesh that if you are out of town at the time if the chiyuv, the halochos of eating and learning don't apply. IE, if you can't fulfil the chiyuv anyway, (cuz you're not home.. Cannot get home any faster anyway.)

 il get a shomer anyway until I can affirm this chiddush.

Have you checked wether this fits with all the cases in suka 38 and rishonim thereon?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 07, 2015, 10:54:15 PM
a chanuka party scheduled not in your home at 5, so lets say you didnt light beforehand bc you had no one to watch the candles, or you had to leave before plag
you miss ideal zman and you cant eat a seuda with mezonos
This is what I'm saying:

From tosfos succa 46a haroeh, I learn that ner chanukah is like mezuza. AKA  chovos hador. Therefore, one that is homeless would be potur from the ikur chiyuv. (The ran by achsanai says exactly not like this)

Add in R Akiva Eigers chiddush by mezuza that if you leave your house for a short trip the chiyuv evaporates.. - Shut, oc 9.

Based on this, if you work out of town the chiyuv is only chal when you walk in the door. Ergo you can eat etc.

The wildcard over here is bircas haroeh... I could argue that this inyan is not something that would create issur achila..


See bach in siman about achsanauy where he actually referes to ner chanukah as "mitzvas mamono" - like I am saying.

Also see the rosh by achsanai, states that a "man on a boat would not light" - need a house or room.


Might have an issue with the chiyuv of cshad. But this again is only if you have some form of dwelling/room.


(I am aware that the mordechai and others are mashma not like this. They strongly say that a traveler would need to find a way to light etc etc.)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 08, 2015, 12:25:07 AM
This is what I'm saying:

From tosfos succa 46a haroeh, I learn that ner chanukah is like mezuza. AKA  chovos hador. Therefore, one that is homeless would be potur from the ikur chiyuv. (The ran by achsanai says exactly not like this)

Add in R Akiva Eigers chiddush by mezuza that if you leave your house for a short trip the chiyuv evaporates.. - Shut, oc 9.

Based on this, if you work out of town the chiyuv is only chal when you walk in the door. Ergo you can eat etc.

The wildcard over here is bircas haroeh... I could argue that this inyan is not something that would create issur achila..


See bach in siman about achsanauy where he actually referes to ner chanukah as "mitzvas mamono" - like I am saying.

Also see the rosh by achsanai, states that a "man on a boat would not light" - need a house or room.


Might have an issue with the chiyuv of cshad. But this again is only if you have some form of dwelling/room.


(I am aware that the mordechai and others are mashma not like this. They strongly say that a traveler would need to find a way to light etc etc.)

I'm maskim to your lomdus, and that birchas haroeh is different.
However, the reason not to eat is not (only)  because you have a chiyuv that was chal. For example, even if for whatever reason you can't shake lulav now, or daven mincha, a seudah is lechoaira still assur. (Before you jump on me, I know that איו הנידון דומה לראיה because there the chiyuv is chal, just no heicha timza, and here there's no chiyuv, but in both cases I can't do it now and will be able to do it later).
 I'm not sure why, but maybe because there's still a chashash it'll totally slip your mind if you get busy with something else.
lehalacha, they bring this in the dirshu from Reb Vosner (p.110 in the miluim, #31) However in the same shtikel they bring from RNK that a woman can't eat even if she is someich on her husband "since she is in the makom hadlaka" That would seem to be a rayoh to your yesod. I don't have the quoted seforim on hand to look up though.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 08, 2015, 09:07:39 AM
This is what I'm saying:

From tosfos succa 46a haroeh, I learn that ner chanukah is like mezuza. AKA  chovos hador. Therefore, one that is homeless would be potur from the ikur chiyuv. (The ran by achsanai says exactly not like this)

Add in R Akiva Eigers chiddush by mezuza that if you leave your house for a short trip the chiyuv evaporates.. - Shut, oc 9.

Based on this, if you work out of town the chiyuv is only chal when you walk in the door. Ergo you can eat etc.

The wildcard over here is bircas haroeh... I could argue that this inyan is not something that would create issur achila..


See bach in siman about achsanauy where he actually referes to ner chanukah as "mitzvas mamono" - like I am saying.

Also see the rosh by achsanai, states that a "man on a boat would not light" - need a house or room.


Might have an issue with the chiyuv of cshad. But this again is only if you have some form of dwelling/room.


(I am aware that the mordechai and others are mashma not like this. They strongly say that a traveler would need to find a way to light etc etc.)
מאוד נהניתי מהלמדות, אך נראה לי שאין היסוד חזק די צרכו שהרי מעולם לא שמענו ולא ראינו מי שינהג כשיטת רע"א האמור וגם לא ס"ל לגמרי כשיטת התוס' וכדלקמן!!!

אני מסכים שחיוב הרואה אינו אוסר באכילה, ופשוט הוא.

החיוב משום חשד אינו שייך לכאורה לאלו המדליקים בפנים
(Maybe this line belongs on a different thread ;) )


בפוסקים יש סתירות אם פוסקים כהמרדכי אם לאו, ובאחרונים האריכו ליישבם, זה בכה וזה בכה
התירוץ הכי מרווח לדידי הוא (חי' מהר"מ באנעט, שבת, כג,א ועוד) שנקטינן שיש חיוב להדליק בביתו דוקא אבל גם כשמדליק מחוץ לביתו יש בזה קיום מצוה עכ"פ בדיעבד או שהוא כעין חצי שיעור וכיו"ב
ואם כנים הדברים הי' נראה שכבר חל החיוב ואסור באכילה
(ע"ד איסור האכילה לפני תפילת השחר שמתחיל בעלוה"ש אף שלכתחילה אסור להתפלל לפני הנץ)
 וגם  רוב שאר האחרונים, לא ס"ל שנ"ח ה"ה חובת הדר ממש כמו מזוזה, אלא שהחיוב חל על כאו"א ורק שמתנאי המצוה הוא שידליקם על פתח ביתו
וא"כ החיוב חל מיד בהתקדש ליל החג אף כשאינו בביתו

גם יש לדון אם יש להמשרד או הרכב - שלפעמים גם אוכל בהם סעודות וכו' - דין דירה. . וממקום שבאת, הרי המשרד חייב במזוזה  וגם הרכב הי' חייב לכמה פוסקים אם 'הי' בה שיעור דע"ד ושאר התנאים

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 08, 2015, 09:22:23 AM
This is what I'm saying:

From tosfos succa 46a haroeh, I learn that ner chanukah is like mezuza. AKA  chovos hador. Therefore, one that is homeless would be potur from the ikur chiyuv. (The ran by achsanai says exactly not like this)

Add in R Akiva Eigers chiddush by mezuza that if you leave your house for a short trip the chiyuv evaporates.. - Shut, oc 9.

Based on this, if you work out of town the chiyuv is only chal when you walk in the door. Ergo you can eat etc.

The wildcard over here is bircas haroeh... I could argue that this inyan is not something that would create issur achila..


See bach in siman about achsanauy where he actually referes to ner chanukah as "mitzvas mamono" - like I am saying.

Also see the rosh by achsanai, states that a "man on a boat would not light" - need a house or room.


Might have an issue with the chiyuv of cshad. But this again is only if you have some form of dwelling/room.


(I am aware that the mordechai and others are mashma not like this. They strongly say that a traveler would need to find a way to light etc etc.)
i disagree
yes, it is a chovas habayis, as the chiyuv is ner ish uveiso, and you need a bayis.
that means if you dont have a house you are patur, not if you arent in the house.
tosfos is saying that if you dont have a house, you have no chiyuv in mezuza (not a chidush of tosfos)
there is no din of derech rechoka by chanuka. if you own a house, you cant go hide in your cousins house and claim you are patur.
why would there be a whole diyun regarding kedimus of maariv or hadlaka
just stay in shul til whenever, learn or daven, and when you come home, go daven.
we dont say that bc you are chayav once the zman arrives
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 08, 2015, 09:29:56 AM

tosfos is saying that if you dont have a mezuza house, you have no chiyuv in mezuza (not a chidush of tosfos)

FTFY
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 08, 2015, 09:30:51 AM
FTFY
fixed, thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 08, 2015, 09:31:06 AM
I am new to this side of DDF. How do you guys write inyonim of learning in english???
It would take me 5 times as long to write...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 08, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on December 08, 2015, 10:05:55 AM
I am new to this side of DDF. How do you guys write inyonim of learning in english???
It would take me 5 times as long to write...
I'm sure many will ask you the opposite question.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 08, 2015, 10:26:26 AM
I'm sure many will ask you the opposite question.
:-[
I hope I don't get in trouble
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 08, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
I am new to this side of DDF. How do you guys write inyonim of learning in english???
It would take me 5 times as long to write...
I have been teaching inyonim of halacha to people without enough background to understand concepts not presented in standard english for quite a few years. It is not difficult to do the same in writing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2015, 10:55:40 AM
  • Tosafos does not mean that n"ch is a chovas hadar like mezuza or anything similar to that. If that would be the case then the entire diyun of achsanai would be moot and one definitely would not be able to have his wife light for him while away.

Tos: "they were mesaken bircas haroeh for people who dont have a house and are not able to be mekayem the mitzva. .... Vtikshey lei mezuza."

Clearly this teritz of tos is suggesting that chanuka is a chiyuv like mezuza.
What say you?



Indeed, achsanai may be only a chiyuv mishum chshad, etc. (delo K'hRan.)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2015, 10:57:34 AM
  • RA"E in the addition at the end of the tshuva seems to write that he is referring to someone who leaves for a few days and not just someone who steps outside for a few minutes.
I work way out of lakewood. so arguably this could apply.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2015, 11:02:16 AM
I'm maskim to your lomdus, and that birchas haroeh is different.
However, the reason not to eat is not (only)  because you have a chiyuv that was chal. For example, even if for whatever reason you can't shake lulav now, or daven mincha, a seudah is lechoaira still assur. (Before you jump on me, I know that איו הנידון דומה לראיה because there the chiyuv is chal, just no heicha timza, and here there's no chiyuv, but in both cases I can't do it now and will be able to do it later).
 I'm not sure why, but maybe because there's still a chashash it'll totally slip your mind if you get busy with something else.
lehalacha, they bring this in the dirshu from Reb Vosner (p.110 in the miluim, #31) However in the same shtikel they bring from RNK that a woman can't eat even if she is someich on her husband "since she is in the makom hadlaka" That would seem to be a rayoh to your yesod. I don't have the quoted seforim on hand to look up though.

To add the issur achila begins half hour before the chiyuv... So maybe you have a point..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2015, 11:04:27 AM



גם יש לדון אם יש להמשרד או הרכב - שלפעמים גם אוכל בהם סעודות וכו' - דין דירה. . וממקום שבאת, הרי המשרד חייב במזוזה  וגם הרכב הי' חייב לכמה פוסקים אם 'הי' בה שיעור דע"ד ושאר התנאים


Indeed iirc there is a R Shlomo Zalman about lighting a flash light on a plane for ner chanuka...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 08, 2015, 11:12:14 AM
Tos: "they were mesaken bircas haroeh for people who dont have a house and are not able to be mekayem the mitzva. .... Vtikshey lei mezuza."

Clearly this teritz of tos is suggesting that chanuka is a chiyuv like mezuza.
What say you?



Indeed, achsanai may be only a chiyuv mishum chshad, etc. (delo K'hRan.)
I meant ishto madlekes olov and being mitztaref with a pruta.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 08, 2015, 11:26:36 AM
Tos: "they were mesaken bircas haroeh for people who dont have a house and are not able to be mekayem the mitzva. .... Vtikshey lei mezuza."

Clearly this teritz of tos is suggesting that chanuka is a chiyuv like mezuza.
What say you?



Indeed, achsanai may be only a chiyuv mishum chshad, etc. (delo K'hRan.)
its similar to mezuza in that you only have a chiyuv if you have a bayis
its different than mezuza in that, to use terminology born from nedarim, the chiyuv hadlaka is a chiyuv on the gavra and the chiyuv mezuza is on the cheftza of the bayis
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 08, 2015, 02:16:16 PM
I am new to this side of DDF. How do you guys write inyonim of learning in english???
It would take me 5 times as long to write...
I have been teaching inyonim of halacha to people without enough background to understand concepts not presented in standard english for quite a few years. It is not difficult to do the same in writing.

I also teach people who do not have a yeshiva background. indeed it takes 5 times as long....
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Takes me too long to type Hebrew.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 08, 2015, 05:06:44 PM
Forgive me if this was covered already, if someone must work late is he allowed to eat anything he wants or not ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: FlyFirst on December 08, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
Forgive me if this was covered already, if someone must work late is he allowed to eat anything he wants or not ?

Had the same question, my Rav told me not to eat after the 72
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 08, 2015, 05:10:23 PM
Forgive me if this was covered already, if someone must work late is he allowed to eat anything he wants or not ?
I assume this means that there are some posts that you don't know about?! I'm speechless! :D
On a serious note, I've been meaning for a long time to PM you to tell you how much I benefit from all your cross-referencing and mare mekomos, and how much I appreciate your input. But here's to a public thank you!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 08, 2015, 05:12:04 PM
I assume this means that there are some posts that you don't know about?! I'm speechless! :D
On a serious note, I've been meaning for a long time to PM you to tell you how much I benefit from all your cross-referencing and mare mekomos, and how much I appreciate your input. But here's to a public thank you!
YW. There was a lot of back & forth lomdos & hebrew that was just confusing me.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 08, 2015, 05:12:50 PM
Had the same question, my Rav told me not to eat after the 72
So you gotta go hungry till whatever hour you get home to light.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2015, 05:14:19 PM
So you gotta go hungry till whatever hour you get home to light.
Should be able to appoint a shomer if necessary.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 08, 2015, 05:15:05 PM
So you gotta go hungry till whatever hour you get home to light.

http://www.easyfasts.com/categories/Kali-Zom-Easy-Fasting-Pill/  ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
So you gotta go hungry till whatever hour you get home to light.
And as long as you are not koveia a seuda you are fine. Ie kabeitza+ mezonos or washing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 08, 2015, 05:56:23 PM
http://www.easyfasts.com/categories/Kali-Zom-Easy-Fasting-Pill/  ;)
Only if I remember to take it before 72. :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 08, 2015, 06:03:47 PM
Had the same question, my Rav told me not to eat after the 72
That is interesting bacause many poskim say not to eat for half an hour beforehand. Also, that would depend on your minhag of when to light.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 08, 2015, 06:09:15 PM
That is interesting bacause many poskim say not to eat for half an hour beforehand. Also, that would depend on your minhag of when to light.
Half hour before whenever you plan to light ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 08, 2015, 06:13:54 PM
Half hour before whenever you plan to light ?
before zman hadlaka
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 11, 2015, 09:09:22 AM
Said yaleh vayovo in shachris by mistake?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on December 11, 2015, 09:15:06 AM
Said yaleh vayovo in shachris by mistake?
Not yet :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on December 11, 2015, 10:39:08 AM
Are you allowed to take a sleeping pill on shabbos?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: lechatchileh ariber on December 11, 2015, 11:38:04 AM
Are you allowed to take a sleeping pill on shabbos?
IIRC it's not a problem as you aren't any kind of חולה (in this regard at least)
Meaning it's not a form of real medicine.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on December 11, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
IIRC it's not a problem as you aren't any kind of חולה (in this regard at least)
Meaning it's not a form of real medicine.
And real medication is what's not allowed?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 11, 2015, 12:29:43 PM
Iirc Vitamins are not permitted either. See igros moshe
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 12, 2015, 11:24:59 PM
Iirc Vitamins are not permitted either. See igros moshe
+1. and birth control pills. See igros moshe. (looking for the can of worms emoji)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: lechatchileh ariber on December 12, 2015, 11:35:03 PM
I heard a shiur from r' hershel shachter where he said that once during his shimush someone called and told the rabbi that they had gotten a hetter from r' moshe to take birth control pills (didn't want to give details to the rabbi) and wanted to know if they could take on shabbos. He said obviously its not a problem.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: lechatchileh ariber on December 12, 2015, 11:36:01 PM
Iirc Vitamins are not permitted either. See igros moshe
My rabbi told me that if its something you take daily like vitamin c so that you shouldn't get a bad cold it's allowed.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on December 13, 2015, 12:05:23 AM
I heard a shiur from r' hershel shachter where he said that once during his shimush someone called and told the rabbi that they had gotten a hetter from r' moshe to take birth control pills (didn't want to give details to the rabbi) and wanted to know if they could take on shabbos. He said obviously its not a problem.
I misremembered, he says explicitly in a teshuvah that they're mutar on shabbos. Vitamins he has a big arichus (OC 3:54) and I believe he comes out lechumra.
Sleeping pills is a מאכל בריאים I would think, as would be caffeine pills, but ask your LOR

Reb Ovadiah: http://halachayomit.co.il/he/Default.aspx?HalachaID=3319
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on December 13, 2015, 12:25:08 PM
Does dish soap need a hechsher?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: eliraps on December 13, 2015, 12:38:33 PM
Sleeping pills is a מאכל בריאים

Without looking up the מראי מקומות recently, the סברא to not allow sleeping pills / vitamins / caffeine pills etc. is that they do not differ from Tylenol or Advil. They are both not treating a 'sickness'. People take pain killers to fall asleep too.
מאכל בריאים is therefore understood to mean something that people eat for the sake of eating (taste or nourishment) as oppose to something that people take because of an effect  they want it to have on their body.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on December 13, 2015, 12:39:19 PM
Does dish soap need a hechsher?
Depends who you ask
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 14, 2015, 09:24:08 AM
Does dish soap need a hechsher?
no it does not
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on December 14, 2015, 09:41:25 AM
Does dish soap need a hechsher?
GIYF
no it does not
I think yochiek93 had the right idea.
Depends who you ask

Quote from: https://oukosher.org/faqs/dishwashing-detergent/
Do dishwashing detergents require kosher supervision?

It is generally assumed that dishwashing detergents are not edible entities, and halachically they do not have a non-kosher status, even if they contain non-kosher ingredients, as is often the case. Nonetheless, some Poskim maintain that it has been the established minhag Yisroel (Jewish custom) to use kosher detergents on plates, pots and utensils that come in contact with food. An OU on a detergent insures the kosher status of that product. That said, if one used non-certified dishwashing detergent, Bidieved (after the fact), the kosher status of the utensils would not be compromised.
Of course you'd have what to rely on if you wanted to use dish soap without a hechsher, but it's not like everyone agrees it's a complete non-issue.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 14, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
the CRC is a bit more confident
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on December 14, 2015, 12:11:09 PM
the CRC is a bit more confident
Correct, which is exactly why 'it depends who you ask' is the proper answer to the question.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 14, 2015, 12:17:35 PM
Correct, which is exactly why 'it depends who you ask' is the proper answer to the question.
well then no question should ever be asked on this thread (for other reasons too, also for this one)
there arent many clear cut shailas that are posed, and there are probably several answers to most.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on December 14, 2015, 12:24:12 PM
well then no question should ever be asked on this thread (for other reasons too, also for this one)
there arent many clear cut shailas that are posed, and there are probably several answers to most.

but I got my answer so Im happy
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 14, 2015, 12:24:55 PM
well then no question should ever be asked on this thread (for other reasons too, also for this one)
there arent many clear cut shailas that are posed, and there are probably several answers to most.
Just use the ignore thread option if you're not interested.
Tia
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on December 14, 2015, 12:27:10 PM
Just use the ignore thread option if you're not interested.
Tia
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 14, 2015, 12:30:33 PM
Just use the ignore thread option if you're not interested.
Tia
read the previous few posts before you say that, as it doesnt really fit
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 14, 2015, 09:41:11 PM
read the previous few posts before you say that, as it doesnt really fit
-1 for someone to say that the OU says it is better to have a hechsher while the CRC is more lenient is very legitimate and if you feel that the thread is a waste by someone saying that it depends who you ask then maybe you ARE best off ignoring it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: AJK on December 17, 2015, 01:37:26 PM
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: David Smith on December 17, 2015, 01:38:05 PM
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
Do you generally give maaser on rewards?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 17, 2015, 01:38:59 PM
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
Why not it is profit
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 17, 2015, 02:08:28 PM
Do you generally give maaser on rewards?
this isnt rewards, this is
Why not it is profit
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: David Smith on December 17, 2015, 02:09:04 PM
this isnt rewards, this is
Why aren't rewards profit?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 17, 2015, 02:10:44 PM
Why aren't rewards profit?
thats another story, but this isnt even rewards, this is straight up profit
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: David Smith on December 17, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
thats another story, but this isnt even rewards, this is straight up profit
If I fake spend $1000 and get back  $1050, why is that any different than investing $1000 in my business and making $50 profit?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 17, 2015, 02:13:52 PM
If I fake spend $1000 and get back  $1050, why is that any different than investing $1000 in my business and making $50 profit?
when i said its a different story, i didnt mean its a different answer, i meant its something that ppl will probably debate both sides on. i didnt intend to get into a  discussion regarding rewards, i was only referring to AJKs question, so i shared my opinion
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: David Smith on December 17, 2015, 02:14:25 PM
when i said its a different story, i didnt mean its a different answer, i meant its something that ppl will probably debate both sides on. i didnt intend to get into a  discussion regarding rewards, i was only referring to AJKs question, so i shared my opinion
I don't see why is a different story.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 17, 2015, 02:15:17 PM
I don't see why is a different story.
oy vey you dont see my point
forget it
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 17, 2015, 02:30:51 PM
Why aren't rewards profit?
What are you trying to say? That there its no reason not to give on rewards?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: rivkao on December 17, 2015, 03:02:15 PM
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?

Just like if you bought something for $20 and you sell for $30 you owe maaser on the ten dollars. Here you got something for free and sold for a profit so don't see why you shouldn't owe maaser.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 17, 2015, 03:16:59 PM
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
Per US GAAP you would recognize revenue upon the receipt of credit from amex.
-You would account for the nonreturnable item as spoiled inventory expense/shrinkage, (a loss), and therefore when you realized a recovery on this you would record revenue. Your net income at this point should be zero so no maaser yet.  (unless you pay maaser on the DDF rewards part)

You then proceeded to sell the item at a gain over the reduced inventory carrying value. - Pay maaser on this.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on December 17, 2015, 03:32:07 PM
US GAAP? which siman and se'if is that? :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 17, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
US GAAP? which siman and se'if is that?
A posek has to be well rounded
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: AJK on December 17, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
:)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on January 04, 2016, 04:18:42 PM
Posted here yesterday. Wondering if it's an issue. I realised that anyone on that thread probably doesn't want to hear it.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg1370949.msg#1370949
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on January 06, 2016, 02:42:59 AM
Posted here yesterday. Wondering if it's an issue. I realised that anyone on that thread probably doesn't want to hear it.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg1370949.msg#1370949
There's an excellent recent book from Feldheim called commerce on shabbos, by Reb Yosef kushner,  who is Reb Shlomo miller's son in law.  It's the most exhaustive and updated guide I've seen to these shailos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on January 06, 2016, 05:44:22 AM
There's an excellent recent book from Feldheim called commerce on shabbos, by Reb Yosef kushner,  who is Reb Shlomo miller's son in law.  It's the most exhaustive and updated guide I've seen to these shailos
This is r shlomo Miller
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: AJK on January 12, 2016, 02:09:30 PM
If I want to give a credit card donation to an organization which is charged processing fees, do I only get credit for tzedakah less processing fees? In other words, if I want to give $100 and the organization is charged $3 in fees, would I get $100 "credit" or $97?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on January 12, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
If I want to give a credit card donation to an organization which is charged processing fees, do I only get credit for tzedakah less processing fees? In other words, if I want to give $100 and the organization is charged $3 in fees, would I get $100 "credit" or $97?
IIRC you get schar for what you give. Which means in your case 100. Someone collecting told me that recently.
But not including points ;)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: MC on January 12, 2016, 02:47:49 PM
IIRC you get schar for what you give. Which means in your case 100. Someone collecting told me that recently.
Talk about hearsay.  :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on January 12, 2016, 03:11:19 PM
If I want to give a credit card donation to an organization which is charged processing fees, do I only get credit for tzedakah less processing fees? In other words, if I want to give $100 and the organization is charged $3 in fees, would I get $100 "credit" or $97?
L'havdil, you can deduct the full $100 on your taxes. I've certainly been counting the full amount, but I've never actually asked the shaila.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on January 12, 2016, 03:12:19 PM
Similar question:

If I want to give a cash donation to an organization which is charged administration fees, do I only get credit for tzedakah less overhead? In other words, if I want to give $100 and the organization is charged $3 in fees, would I get $100 "credit" or $97?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on January 12, 2016, 03:29:59 PM
I would say it's the same as their advertising costs. This is part of their expenses because without cc processing some ppl won't use them. The same way if they don't advertise a lot of people won't see them
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on January 13, 2016, 02:43:39 AM
To add : pro fundraisers take as much as a 49% cut.  100% of the funds are tzedaka.  Call that a processing fee
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Iz on January 19, 2016, 03:53:34 PM
I saw in several threads discussion about whether selling miles is mutar. However, no sources or quotes of poskim by name were mentioned. Can anyone quote any posek by name re this? Thanks.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yudamaan on February 03, 2016, 11:03:40 PM
Does anyone know where the tshuvos r akiva eiger,that talks about bris milah being a hechsher for talmud torah is??
thank you
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on February 03, 2016, 11:28:15 PM

Does anyone know where the tshuvos r akiva eiger,that talks about bris milah being a hechsher for talmud torah is??
thank you
מהדו״ק סימן מ״ב
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yudamaan on February 03, 2016, 11:40:55 PM
מהדו״ק סימן מ״ב
Thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on February 03, 2016, 11:42:37 PM

Thanks
Np, mazel tov
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: emjee on February 04, 2016, 08:22:19 PM

I saw in several threads discussion about whether selling miles is mutar. However, no sources or quotes of poskim by name were mentioned. Can anyone quote any posek by name re this? Thanks.
call some poskim up. Some are holding in it and some are not. If they're honest they'll tell you a clear psak with their own svara.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Iz on February 04, 2016, 10:24:21 PM
call some poskim up. Some are holding in it and some are not. If they're honest they'll tell you a clear psak with their own svara.
:)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yudamaan on February 05, 2016, 01:58:47 AM
Np, mazel tov
Thank you
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yudamaan on February 06, 2016, 09:30:39 PM
There is supposedly a rabeinu yona that explains that the reason why a person who sells himself as a slave is allowed to marry a shifcha cnaanis even though he is still a yid,  is because he was pogem in his kedushas yisroel. I couldn't find it inside. Anyone here familiar with this where would I find it?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: stv17 on February 07, 2016, 10:56:52 AM
Apple Iwatch (or Samsung & LG watches), Is it allowed to be carried on Shabbos?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 07, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
There is supposedly a rabeinu yona that explains that the reason why a person who sells himself as a slave is allowed to marry a shifcha cnaanis even though he is still a yid,  is because he was pogem in his kedushas yisroel. I couldn't find it inside. Anyone here familiar with this where would I find it?
Sounds vaguely familiar from the sugia of chetzi eved....
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: YitzyS on February 07, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
Interesting discussion regarding using Uber to go to the hospital on Shabbos instead of traditional car service http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=60576.0
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 14, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
Are you allowed to clip back together a metal bed frame as in this pic on shabbos?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2016, 07:33:06 PM
If it has a clamp on any of the bars it would certainly be assur even if you don't use it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on February 14, 2016, 08:28:05 PM
מטה של פרקים
If it does fall into that category then you would be חייב חטאת for מכה בפטיש or possibly בנין כלי (even though we hold אין בנין בכילים)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on February 14, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
מטה של פרקים אסור להחזירה ולהדקה ואם תקע חייב חטאת ואם היא (דרכה להיות) רפויה מותר לכתחלה (ובלבד שלא יהדק) וכוס של פרקים מותר לפרקו ולהחזירו בשבת ויש מי שאומר שדין הכוס כדין המטה:

הגה: ואם דרכו להיות מהודק אף על גב דעכשיו רפוי אסור (מיימוני פרק כ"ה והגהות אשירי וכל בו וכן נראה דברי הטור):
סעיף ז

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on February 14, 2016, 08:32:13 PM
ספסל שנשמט אחד מרגליו אסור להחזירו למקומו. ולהניח אותו צד השמוט על ספסל אחר יש מי שמחמיר לאסור

(ועיין לעיל סימן ש"ח סעיף ט"ז):
סעיף ט
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on February 14, 2016, 08:33:42 PM
מגן אברהם
(י) חייב חטאת:    משום שעושה כלי:

(יא) דרכה להיות רפויה:    ז"ל הכלבו בשם הראב"ד דברים שאין אדם מקפיד עליהם אם יתנענע בתוך החור מותר דאין לגזור אלא בדבר שצריך להיות מעמידה בדוחק אבל בסמ"ג איתא דדוקא דבר שצריך גבורה ואומנות אסור:

(יב) וכוס כו' מותר:    שאין דרך להדקו כ"כ (טור) ונ"ל דכוסו' שלנו העשוי' בחריצים סביב ומהודקים בחוזק לכ"ע אסור ול"ד לכיסוי הכלים שעשוים כך דהתם אין עשוים לקיום רק לפתחן ולסוגרן תמיד עיין סי' שי"ד ס"י וכתב ב"י דרפוי ואינו רפוי ג"כ אסור ומשמע מפשט הפוסקים דכל הכלים האלו שרי לטלטלן ולא גזרו אלא במנור' שדרכה להתפרק כמ"ש סוף סי' רע"ט וה"ה כל כיוצא בו אבל דבר שאין דרכו להתפרק שרי בטלטול:
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2016, 08:35:02 PM
מטה של פרקים
If it does fall into that category then you would be חייב חטאת for מכה בפטיש or possibly בנין כלי (even though we hold אין בנין בכילים)
I doubt that those pegs in the holes are called tokiea
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 14, 2016, 09:22:33 PM
I doubt that those pegs in the holes are called tokiea
+1

I am well aware about a mitah shel prokim..

The question is whether the connection in the picture - which is similar to a button in a hole (even less cuz it literally is purposely smaller than the hole untill u pull down etc.) Can be called tokea or not.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 14, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
If it has a clamp on any of the bars it would certainly be assur even if you don't use it.
Clamp?
Someone picked up the box spring and the "button" slipped out of the hole. That's the question.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: moko on February 14, 2016, 09:31:59 PM
+1

I am well aware about a mitah shel prokim..

The question is whether the connection in the picture - which is similar to a button in a hole (even less cuz it literally is purposely smaller than the hole untill u pull down etc.) Can be called tokea or not.
תקע is חייב חטאת. But  מהודק is still אסור and only דרכה להיות רפויה is מותר. (At least that's my understanding)
This would seem to be at least מהודק.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 14, 2016, 09:40:46 PM
תקע is חייב חטאת. But  מהודק is still אסור and only דרכה להיות רפויה is מותר. (At least that's my understanding)
This would seem to be at least מהודק.
Is the definition of "tokah" inserting a peg into a hole? And then the discussion is how tight the hole is...

I wouldn't necessarily call this a peg into a hole. - the hole itself is not tight at all. When you pull it into the narrow part it is also still relatively loose and can easily slide out. - it is pulled tight by virtue of the fact that the box holds it in place, but on its own it almost has no kiyum.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2016, 09:53:59 PM
Clamp?
Someone picked up the box spring and the "button" slipped out of the hole. That's the question.
Some have a clamp besides the button
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yelped on February 14, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
Is the definition of "tokah" inserting a peg into a hole? And then the discussion is how tight the hole is...

I wouldn't necessarily call this a peg into a hole. - the hole itself is not tight at all. When you pull it into the narrow part it is also still relatively loose and can easily slide out. - it is pulled tight by virtue of the fact that the box holds it in place, but on its own it almost has no kiyum.

Is this built like a carriage with an adjustable handle?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2016, 10:05:43 PM
See bhl 315 d"h lichatchila on seif 5
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 14, 2016, 11:14:10 PM
See bhl 315 d"h lichatchila on seif 5
He talking about opening up a folding bed. And chashash ohel. 
You saying that there is ohel here.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2016, 11:36:49 PM
He talking about opening up a folding bed. And chashash ohel. 
You saying that there is ohel here.
It is not quite the folding need that we would think of. Your bed would be more of an issue of ohel even without walls since it is not meant to be temporary. He also discussed an issue of tircha in its assembly which would probably apply here as well. I need to look it over better.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: GAM Z. on February 17, 2016, 12:43:28 AM
I once heard that the reason we say shalom aleichem to 3 people by kiddush levana, is to let them know that you didn't mean them when you davened that your enemies should not be successful. If so, I was wondering, that in the event that someone is saying it by himself, he should not try to find 3 people to tell it to them. Can anyone confirm? TIA
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: akivak on February 17, 2016, 01:50:48 AM
I once heard that the reason we say shalom aleichem to 3 people by kiddush levana, is to let them know that you didn't mean them when you davened that your enemies should not be successful. If so, I was wondering, that in the event that someone is saying it by himself, he should not try to find 3 people to tell it to them. Can anyone confirm? TIA
There are more reasons than that, I don't remember them off hand
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 17, 2016, 06:26:54 AM
I once heard that the reason we say shalom aleichem to 3 people by kiddush levana, is to let them know that you didn't mean them when you davened that your enemies should not be successful. If so, I was wondering, that in the event that someone is saying it by himself, he should not try to find 3 people to tell it to them. Can anyone confirm? TIA
You can say it 3 times go one person
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: GAM Z. on February 17, 2016, 09:04:45 AM
So your saying that even if i'm by myself, I should still try to find 3(or 1) people to say it to?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 17, 2016, 09:50:52 AM
You can say it 3 times go one person
the rama certainly implies that (426:2)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 18, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
What brocho do you make on Kani?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 18, 2016, 09:25:54 PM
What brocho do you make on Kani?
Isn't kani fish?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 18, 2016, 09:28:56 PM
Crab!


But I hear we make it out of "white fish powder and starch"

Maybe it's mezonos?

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 18, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
"Certain kinds of fish, such as the Pacific whiting, cannot form firm surimi without additives such as egg white or potato starch."

Even if it was flour it would be lidabek
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on February 18, 2016, 10:06:18 PM
"Certain kinds of fish, such as the Pacific whiting, cannot form firm surimi without additives such as egg white or potato starch."

Even if it was flour it would be lidabek
I hear..
But if it were flour, it could be as a filler also.. Whats the bottom line with flour as a filler? Machlokes iirc
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 20, 2016, 08:40:43 PM
Can I give my maaser to a loan gemach (like this: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=55810.msg1271104#msg1271104) or must I give it to a place that gives it to poor people to keep?

Another sheila: FWIU, I don't need to give maaser on things that around the house that I sell online. But if I buy stuff to sell online, I need to give maser on the profit I make, correct? Is there a guideline that clarifies this?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on February 20, 2016, 08:52:30 PM
Can I give my maaser to a loan gemach (like this: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=55810.msg1271104#msg1271104) or must I give it to a place that gives it to poor people to keep?

Another sheila: FWIU, I don't need to give maaser on things that around the house that I sell online. But if I buy stuff to sell online, I need to give maser on the profit I make, correct? Is there a guideline that clarifies this?

Thanks in advance!
I'm pretty sure that a loan gemach is the ideal use of maaser.
There's a great english sefer that has all the maasser guidelines, I forgot what its called.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 20, 2016, 09:59:05 PM
I'm pretty sure that a loan gemach is the ideal use of maaser.
There's a great english sefer that has all the maasser guidelines, I forgot what its called.
Thanks, you mean its better to give maaser to a loan gemach over a tzedakah?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Sport on February 20, 2016, 09:59:48 PM
Thanks, you mean its better to give maaser to a loan gemach over a tzedakah?
Dont really on me, but I think so.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 20, 2016, 10:10:55 PM
Dont really on me, but I think so.
Ok thanks, hopefully someone else will come along and verify.. :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 20, 2016, 10:20:38 PM
I'm pretty sure that a loan gemach is the ideal use of maaser.
There's a great english sefer that has all the maasser guidelines, I forgot what its called.
I beleive so too.  The concept is that it is better to give someone a job than a donation.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on February 20, 2016, 10:38:52 PM
I'm pretty sure that a loan gemach is the ideal use of maaser.
There's a great english sefer that has all the maasser guidelines, I forgot what its called.
http://www.artscroll.com/Books/9781578195893.html

I'll look at it again when I get back to my house, but I'm fairly certain he says this. I loaned money to a yeshiva for a year or two, and actually donated it all over it was paid back. You don't have that issue with the gemach.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 21, 2016, 03:57:09 AM
I beleive so too.  The concept is that it is better to give someone a job than a donation.
Thanks. But I'm not sure giving a loan is so similar to giving a job...

http://www.artscroll.com/Books/9781578195893.html

I'll look at it again when I get back to my house, but I'm fairly certain he says this. I loaned money to a yeshiva for a year or two, and actually donated it all over it was paid back. You don't have that issue with the gemach.
Thanks, which gemach would you recommend I give my maaser to? Ozer Dalim? Are there other options?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 21, 2016, 04:04:08 AM
Thanks. But I'm not sure giving a loan is so similar to giving a job...
That's how people start businesses.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 21, 2016, 04:20:47 AM
That's how people start businesses.
Oh I was thinking that they were loaning people for bills etc.. I guess either way is good...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on February 21, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
Thanks. But I'm not sure giving a loan is so similar to giving a job...
Thanks, which gemach would you recommend I give my maaser to? Ozer Dalim? Are there other options?
Keren Hachesed in Monsey. Amazing gemach, truly lsh"sh
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 21, 2016, 02:29:02 PM
Keren Hachesed in Monsey. Amazing gemach, truly lsh"sh
Thanks, do you know if they use any of the $ for salaries of people that work for them?

Also, l'halacha is donating 10% maaser with CC not considered giving 10% maaser because of the processing fee?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on February 21, 2016, 02:31:40 PM



Also, l'halacha is donating 10% maaser with CC not considered giving 10% maaser because of the processing fee?
Read up thread but I think it's fine as the same applies to a fundraiser.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 21, 2016, 02:33:16 PM
Read up thread but I think it's fine as the same applies to a fundraiser.
I was told otherwise by a prominent halachic authority.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on February 21, 2016, 02:37:21 PM
I was told otherwise by a prominent halachic authority.
Coming from what basis? How could you give a fundraiser money,  find out who they are collecting for and give it straight to them? They take up to 49%. (the honest  ones) why is it any different?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on February 21, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
Thanks, do you know if they use any of the $ for salaries of people that work for them?

Also, l'halacha is donating 10% maaser with CC not considered giving 10% maaser because of the processing fee?
I don't think so, but I believe they'll be honest with you if you ask them. And besides, what's wrong with giving a a salary to a part time (or even a full time) secretary to run the finances. I see it the same as paying for an accountant for legal fees such as the non-profit legalities etc.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 22, 2016, 12:03:52 AM
I don't think so, but I believe they'll be honest with you if you ask them. And besides, what's wrong with giving a a salary to a part time (or even a full time) secretary to run the finances. I see it the same as paying for an accountant for legal fees such as the non-profit legalities etc.
You're right, I'll check it out... Thanks!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Crazy tools on February 22, 2016, 08:07:49 PM
Costco sells medjool dates, the company is mehadrin and they are products of Israel. It has rabbinute and Ou and says in the box no chashash shvius.
Are those hechsherim to be trusted?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 22, 2016, 08:20:05 PM
Costco sells medjool dates, the company is mehadrin and they are products of Israel. It has rabbinute and Ou and says in the box no chashash shvius.
Are those hechsherim to be trusted?
That question is for you LOR, not a public forum.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 22, 2016, 11:14:07 PM
Read up thread but I think it's fine as the same applies to a fundraiser.
What do you mean by the same applies to a fundraiser?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on February 22, 2016, 11:16:28 PM
Fundraiser an CC processors both take a cut from your donation.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 22, 2016, 11:20:43 PM
Fundraiser an CC processors both take a cut from your donation.
Oh, so what about tzedakas where not everyone is volunteers (some people get salaries to run the tzedakah)? Giving 10% is not really giving maaser?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 22, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Oh, so what about tzedakas where not everyone is volunteers (some people get salaries to run the tzedakah)? Giving 10% is not really giving maaser?
no. he meant that just as giving to a fundraiser counts as maaser, so should paying by CC.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: GAM Z. on February 22, 2016, 11:39:42 PM
If I'm davening Shema after the zeman, do I still need to get 248 words, or I could just say Shema as is ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 22, 2016, 11:50:57 PM
If I'm davening Shema after the zeman, do I still need to get 248 words, or I could just say Shema as is ?
They have nothing to do with each other. You do not need 248 to be yotzei shema and some communities do not do it at all. On the other hand the minhag would apply when saying shema even if you are not being yotzei such as during krias shema sheal hamita if you say the whole thing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: GAM Z. on February 23, 2016, 12:12:25 AM
They have nothing to do with each other. You do not need 248 to be yotzei shema and some communities do not do it at all. On the other hand the minhag would apply when saying shema even if you are not being yotzei such as during krias shema sheal hamita if you say the whole thing.
I thought that after the zeman, its said just for seder ha'tefilla. If so, could be the minhag wouldn't apply..
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 23, 2016, 12:24:59 AM
I thought that after the zeman, its said just for seder ha'tefilla.
That's exactly why it makes sense that the minhag would apply.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on February 23, 2016, 12:37:10 AM
no. he meant that just as giving to a fundraiser counts as maaser, so should paying by CC.
Ok thanks
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on February 23, 2016, 09:21:32 AM
I thought that after the zeman, its said just for seder ha'tefilla. If so, could be the minhag wouldn't apply..
As I wrote previously they have nothing to do with each other.

That's exactly why it makes sense that the minhag would apply.
What would a deutsche Jude know about this? :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 03, 2016, 12:28:29 PM
What's the earliest I could daven mincha ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 03, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
What's the earliest I could daven mincha ?
Mincha gedola
Which is about 1/2 hour after chatzos
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on March 03, 2016, 12:45:36 PM
Asking for a friend :)

If your cell phone goes off during shmona esrei, what is the preferred thing to do.
1. Take it out of your pocket to turn it off.
2. Stick your hand into your pocket and blindly try to turn it off.
3. Put your hand over it to maybe muffle the ringer
4.Nothing

The assumption is that the ringing phone is disturbing everyone's concentration.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 03, 2016, 12:53:42 PM
Asking for a friend :)

If your cell phone goes off during shmona esrei, what is the preferred thing to do.
1. Take it out of your pocket to turn it off.
2. Stick your hand into your pocket and blindly try to turn it off.
3. Put your hand over it to maybe muffle the ringer
4.Nothing

The assumption is that the ringing phone is disturbing everyone's concentration.
Turn it off as fast as possible
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 03, 2016, 12:56:02 PM
Asking for a friend :)

If your cell phone goes off during shmona esrei, what is the preferred thing to do.
1. Take it out of your pocket to turn it off.
2. Stick your hand into your pocket and blindly try to turn it off.
3. Put your hand over it to maybe muffle the ringer
4.Nothing

The assumption is that the ringing phone is disturbing everyone's concentration.
True story.

My bil confiscated a phone from a talmid.. It starting ringing a crazy hip hop song in mid of shmoneh esrah.
He had totally forgotten about this phone in his pocket and continued Davening a way till ringing stopped. Thought it must be someone else!

#major awkward!
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 03, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Asking for a friend :)

If your cell phone goes off during shmona esrei, what is the preferred thing to do.
1. Take it out of your pocket to turn it off.
2. Stick your hand into your pocket and blindly try to turn it off.
3. Put your hand over it to maybe muffle the ringer
4.Nothing

The assumption is that the ringing phone is disturbing everyone's concentration.
Certainly don't do
5. Ask on DDF  :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 03, 2016, 12:57:13 PM
True story.

My bil confiscated a phone from a talmid.. It starting ringing a crazy hip hop song in mid of shmoneh esrah.
He had totally forgotten about this phone in his pocket and continued Davening a way till ringing stopped. Thought it must be someone else!

#major awkward!
Lol
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 03, 2016, 12:57:51 PM
Mincha gedola
Which is about 1/2 hour after chatzos
I'm assuming shomer shabbos has then ?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 03, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
I'm assuming shomer shabbos has then ?
Yep
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on March 03, 2016, 01:27:41 PM
Asking for a friend :)

If your cell phone goes off during shmona esrei, what is the preferred thing to do.
1. Take it out of your pocket to turn it off.
2. Stick your hand into your pocket and blindly try to turn it off.
3. Put your hand over it to maybe muffle the ringer
4.Nothing

The assumption is that the ringing phone is disturbing everyone's concentration.
I must start by saying it shouldn't be in ring mode from the first place, and if one has a hard time remembering to turn it off beforehand then it may be a problem to ever have it on ring mode.
Now to the question of what to do when it does go off during davening. Whatever is the fastest way to turn it off, and cause the least disturbance for other mispalelim should be done. Al pi halacha, if the fastest way of removing the disturbance is by walking out with your phone in the middle of shmona esrie then that is what should be done.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on March 03, 2016, 02:19:00 PM
I must start by saying it shouldn't be in ring mode from the first place, and if one has a hard time remembering to turn it off beforehand then it may be a problem to ever have it on ring mode.
Now to the question of what to do when it does go off during davening. Whatever is the fastest way to turn it off, and cause the least disturbance for other mispalelim should be done. Al pi halacha, if the fastest way of removing the disturbance is by walking out with your phone in the middle of shmona esrie then that is what should be done.
+1
I remember a sign in Zichron Shneur Toronto-Rav Dovid Pam that if a child starts crying while the mother is in the middle of shmone esrei she is obligated to immediately bring the child outside instead of trying to quiet the child down while disturbing others.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 03, 2016, 03:46:18 PM
+1
I remember a sign in Zichron Shneur Toronto-Rav Dovid Pam that if a child starts crying while the mother is in the middle of shmone esrei she is obligated to immediately bring the child outside instead of trying to quiet the child down while disturbing others.
Rational?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: username on March 03, 2016, 04:28:58 PM
Rational?


http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5761/behar.html#
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 03, 2016, 05:00:19 PM

http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5761/behar.html#
And here
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on March 03, 2016, 06:21:57 PM
+1
I remember a sign in Zichron Shneur Toronto-Rav Dovid Pam that if a child starts crying while the mother is in the middle of shmone esrei she is obligated to immediately bring the child outside instead of trying to quiet the child down while disturbing others.
Yes, the psak of the cell phone is based on this halacha.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: terrificreport on March 03, 2016, 11:45:27 PM
Fundraiser an CC processors both take a cut from your donation.

The difference is obvious.

You can pay by check or cash and the organization would receive a 100% of your donation in contrast to if you decide to pay by credit card the organization is actually receiving less.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on March 04, 2016, 12:15:25 AM
The difference is obvious.

You can pay by check or cash and the organization would receive a 100% of your donation in contrast to if you decide to pay by credit card the organization is actually receiving less.
Correct, but l'halacha, is it considered I gave 10% maaser or ~7% cuz of CC processing?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: terrificreport on March 04, 2016, 12:45:11 AM
the math is off as the 3% is of the maaser and not the gross.

for example, you sold some items that were lying around at home on ebay for 110 when your cost was only 10.

Profit is 100 and therefore maaser at 10% is 10.

If you would give the 10 in cash then no maaser balance.

However, if you pay the 10 using a cc, the organization will only receive 9.70 (less 3% of the 10 contribution), you may be only able to claim 9.70 you gave to maaser as you elected to pay using cc - which costs 30 cents of your contribution and will therefore now have a 30 cents maaser balance.

It would be interesting to hear a psak.

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on March 04, 2016, 12:53:04 AM
the math is off as the 3% is of the maaser and not the gross.

for example, you sold some items that were lying around at home on ebay for 110 when your cost was only 10.

Profit is 100 and therefore maaser at 10% is 10.

If you would give the 10 in cash then no maaser balance.

However, if you pay the 10 using a cc, the organization will only receive 9.70 (less 3% of the 10 contribution), you may be only able to claim 9.70 you gave to maaser as you elected to pay using cc - which costs 30 cents of your contribution and will therefore now have a 30 cents maaser balance.

It would be interesting to hear a psak.
Oh, thanks for fixing that math for me... Would also really like a psak...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 04, 2016, 01:03:29 AM


the math is off as the 3% is of the maaser and not the gross.

for example, you sold some items that were lying around at home on ebay for 110 when your cost was only 10.

Profit is 100 and therefore maaser at 10% is 10.

If you would give the 10 in cash then no maaser balance.

However, if you pay the 10 using a cc, the organization will only receive 9.70 (less 3% of the 10 contribution), you may be only able to claim 9.70 you gave to maaser as you elected to pay using cc - which costs 30 cents of your contribution and will therefore now have a 30 cents maaser balance.

It would be interesting to hear a psak.

How about looking it this way:
Every organization has expenses besides the charity part, when you give them 10 they put 9.70 towards charity and .30 towards expenses
If it's looked this way you gave $10 tzedaka what they use it for doesn't change, same with cc processing
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 04, 2016, 01:14:24 AM

How about looking it this way:
Every organization has expenses besides the charity part, when you give them 10 they put 9.70 towards charity and .30 towards expenses
If it's looked this way you gave $10 tzedaka what they use it for doesn't change, same with cc processing
Yes, but their expenses increased directly from your donation.  Were you to pay by check, that 3% fee would never occur.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on March 04, 2016, 02:07:42 AM
Yes, but their expenses increased directly from your donation.  Were you to pay by check, that 3% fee would never occur.
I don't think your right. Read up thread.
Lets say a fundraiser comes to your door and collects for an institution. He is taking a nice percentage. Maybe you should tell him thank you for telling me about the institution I will pay them myself as I want 100% to go to the tzdaka. Furthermore, if you don't do that and actually give it to him,  do you have to call up to find out what percentage he gets and deduct that from what you supposedly gave to maaser?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 04, 2016, 08:41:51 AM
I don't think your right. Read up thread.
Lets say a fundraiser comes to your door and collects for an institution. He is taking a nice percentage. Maybe you should tell him thank you for telling me about the institution I will pay them myself as I want 100% to go to the tzdaka. Furthermore, if you don't do that and actually give it to him,  do you have to call up to find out what percentage he gets and deduct that from what you supposedly gave to maaser?
I know; I was involved in that discussion.  I understand the logic, but this is what my Rov told me, what can I say.  At any rate, I am just explaining now why a CC expense is not the same as regular operating expenses.  I agree I don't understand why a fundraiser is different.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on March 04, 2016, 09:15:59 AM
Yes, but their expenses increased directly from your donation.  Were you to pay by check, that 3% fee would never occur.

There are expenses to deal with cash and check too. They may not be as easily determined, but they are there. Some businesses prefer cc over check or cash.

 

It should also be noted 10% is not an absolute rule, its a strong guideline.

I would assume that your schar is based on the amount you give not on the amount received. 
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 04, 2016, 09:18:04 AM
There are expenses to deal with cash and check too. They may not be as easily determined, but they are there. Some businesses prefer cc over check or cash.

 

It should also be noted 10% is not an absolute rule, its a strong guideline.

I would assume that your schar is based on the amount you give not on the amount received.
What expenses are there with check or cash ? Businesses don't wanna take a check for fear it could bounce.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: terrificreport on March 04, 2016, 09:20:49 AM
I know; I was involved in that discussion.  I understand the logic, but this is what my Rov told me, what can I say.  At any rate, I am just explaining now why a CC expense is not the same as regular operating expenses.  I agree I don't understand why a fundraiser is different.

I dont understand the logic and would say that we all have a bias (myself included) because of the CC benefit (points, cash back, minimum spend etc.).

Your contribution is not 10 but rather 9.70 as no organization or business for that matter can get out of paying the CC fee in contrast to the fundraiser.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on March 04, 2016, 09:30:23 AM
I know; I was involved in that discussion.  I understand the logic, but this is what my Rov told me, what can I say.  At any rate, I am just explaining now why a CC expense is not the same as regular operating expenses.  I agree I don't understand why a fundraiser is different.
There are sometimes cases when the tzdaka pay kids to count/sort the money.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: incendia on March 04, 2016, 09:31:37 AM
What expenses are there with check or cash ? Businesses don't wanna take a check for fear it could bounce.

counting
sending someone to the bank to deposit
people bounce checks to charities too
extra book keeping
stamps for the mailers
some process checks electronically, that also has a fee
breakage
some banks make you pay for a more expensive bank acct the more transactions you do a month
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: terrificreport on March 04, 2016, 09:35:41 AM
There are sometimes cases when the tzdaka pay kids to count/sort the money.

Thats fine and no different than the overhead the organization pays to process checks and cash.

I believe Der Deutche Jude said it best. Their expenses increased directly from your donation. And I would add that you only gave the organization 9.70 (and not 10-0.30).
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 04, 2016, 09:43:36 AM
Thats fine and no different than the overhead the organization pays to process checks and cash.

I believe Der Deutche Jude said it best. Their expenses increased directly from your donation.
Not to go around in circles but if the fundraiser is taking a % its the same thing
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on March 04, 2016, 09:57:50 AM
Thats fine and no different than the overhead the organization pays to process checks and cash.

I believe Der Deutche Jude said it best. Their expenses increased directly from your donation. And I would add that you only gave the organization 9.70 (and not 10-0.30).
I beg to differ. If you give a bag of pennies it'll cost them money to sort. Why is that different?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: terrificreport on March 04, 2016, 10:00:48 AM
Not to go around in circles but if the fundraiser is taking a % its the same thing

It may appear to be the same but in essence vastly different.

The organization would much rather the cash/cheque (yeshivos, gas and almost anybody that can - tacks on the 3% fee) in contrast to the fundraiser, in which, organization would rather it be given to the fundraiser (creates relationship btwn donor and organization, makes it worthwhile for the fundraiser to be employed etc.).

And final difference is how the organization chooses to compensate/incentivize its employees or even allocate their expenses will not have any bearing on the contribution as opposed to a charge that is specific to your contribution and cannot

I agree that if you can only pay on CC - and cannot pay cash/cheque for whatever reason - since organization would gladly take a guaranteed donation even if it is on CC and eat the 3%, therefore you would be able to claim the FULL contribution for maaser.

End of the day, if you have a choice of contributing cash/cheque/cc and contribute CC, I cannot see how you would receive credit/maaser for the full contribution.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: terrificreport on March 04, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
I beg to differ. If you give a bag of pennies it'll cost them money to sort. Why is that different?

Never beg! :)

Good question.

Because pennies are money as opposed to CC.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 04, 2016, 10:13:53 AM
Never beg! :)

Good question.

Because pennies are money as opposed to CC.
A brief summary of my response to just about everything you've said:
חילוק שאינו מתחלק

Did someone here actually say their Rov told them they can't count the processing fee percentage as maaser? I find that hard to believe.

ETA: I can totally hear someone saying that l'maaseh you should try not to use cc for tzedaka, as the organization will likely net more from a check - but that's not the same as saying that you can't count the full amount if you do donate by cc.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 04, 2016, 10:15:51 AM


Because pennies are money as opposed to CC.
What's that supposed to mean?

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 04, 2016, 10:34:28 AM
Did someone here actually say their Rov told them they can't count the processing fee percentage as maaser? I find that hard to believe.
I said that, but you don't have to beleive it.  In fact you shouldn't, and should ask your own Rov what to do.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 04, 2016, 10:42:03 AM
I said that, but you don't have to beleive it.  In fact you shouldn't, and should ask your own Rov what to do.
Can you ask him for a source?

I have a separate, practical question about this shitah. How do you know how much of your donation to count? There is no set amount that all organizations pay. It depends on their processor. So do you just pick the average number? The highest number?

ETA: Also, I didn't mean to intimate that you were making it up. My intention was that I can't understand how a Rov versed in the subject, and in the practical workings of these things, would pasken that way.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 04, 2016, 10:48:00 AM
Can you ask him for a source?

I have a separate, practical question about this shitah. How do you know how much of your donation to count? There is no set amount that all organizations pay. It depends on their processor. So do you just pick the average number? The highest number?

ETA: Also, I didn't mean to intimate that you were making it up. My intention was that I can't understand how a Rov versed in the subject, and in the practical workings of these things, would pasken that way.
+1
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 04, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Can you ask him for a source?

I have a separate, practical question about this shitah. How do you know how much of your donation to count? There is no set amount that all organizations pay. It depends on their processor. So do you just pick the average number? The highest number?

ETA: Also, I didn't mean to intimate that you were making it up. My intention was that I can't understand how a Rov versed in the subject, and in the practical workings of these things, would pasken that way.
Everything you mention has been on my to-do list for a while.  Hopefully soon.   :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 04, 2016, 11:23:30 AM
Um, didn't wash, made hamotzie and about to insert bread, but remember that didn't wash!?

Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2016, 11:45:48 AM
Um, didn't wash, made hamotzie and about to insert bread, but remember that didn't wash!?


and then you posted? ;)
on a fast day, one would eat a mashehu, i would imagine this would be the same din, but i dont know
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 04, 2016, 12:08:35 PM
and then you posted? ;)
on a fast day, one would eat a mashehu, i would imagine this would be the same din, but i dont know
That was my thought too, but then what do you do next?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2016, 12:21:21 PM
That was my thought too, but then what do you do next?
i assume wash, no?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 04, 2016, 01:15:07 PM
and then you posted? ;)
on a fast day, one would eat a mashehu, i would imagine this would be the same din, but i dont know
Why not wash first?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2016, 01:34:56 PM
Why not wash first?
and be mafsik bein bracha le'achila?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 04, 2016, 02:03:21 PM
i assume wash, no?
Do you make a brocha? And then what do you do after that? Just eat? What was the point of the washing then? You already touched the bread.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 04, 2016, 02:07:25 PM
Do you make a brocha? And then what do you do after that? Just eat? What was the point of the washing then? You already touched the bread.
you always touch the bread before you wash.  but i dont know the answers to your questions
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 04, 2016, 02:10:36 PM
you always touch the bread before you wash.  but i dont know the answers to your questions
I meant to say ate from the bread, not touch. The quote below though would seem to indicate that if in fact the halacha is that you taste first, then the next step is to wash as you suggested. It also answers the rest of my questions.
Quote from: http://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_Meal#If_one_forgot_to_wash_or_say_Al_Netilat_Yadayim
If one forgot to wash and one already said HaMotzei and ate a little bit of bread, one should wash Netilat Yadayim with a bracha and then continue to eat without another bracha of HaMotzei.
Rivevot Efraim 1:129, Igrot Moshe 2:53
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Wizard on March 04, 2016, 02:45:27 PM
Everything you mention has been on my to-do list for a while.  Hopefully soon.   :)
Wow, glad my Sheila made such a lively discussion...

Um, didn't wash, made hamotzie and about to insert bread, but remember that didn't wash!?


Please tell me you didn't post this when you actually had the Sheila...:) :)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 04, 2016, 02:45:33 PM
and be mafsik bein bracha le'achila?
It's a hefsek?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 05, 2016, 11:29:46 PM
can anyone point me to a link to a letter from the Rebbe (or anyone else for that matter) directing people to vote in US elections? I found a bunch regarding Israeli elections, but none regarding the US elections
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yochiek93 on March 05, 2016, 11:31:26 PM
Everything you mention has been on my to-do list for a while.  Hopefully soon.   :)
Can you also ask: it is the organizations choice to take cc so it's part of the budget
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on March 05, 2016, 11:35:01 PM
Can you also ask: it is the organizations choice to take cc so it's part of the budget
They also gain by taking cc. Direct debits
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on March 05, 2016, 11:47:02 PM
can anyone point me to a link to a letter from the Rebbe (or anyone else for that matter) directing people to vote in US elections? I found a bunch regarding Israeli elections, but none regarding the US elections
I know there is one from R Moshe.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 06, 2016, 01:20:50 AM
I know there is one from R Moshe.
thanks. I have that one, at least the English version http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/11/02/reb-moshe-on-voting/
also have the one from Reb Shmuel in the comments there
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 06, 2016, 06:14:21 AM
It's a hefsek?
To do something other than eat after making a bracha?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: mgarfin on March 06, 2016, 08:26:24 AM
Is there a dedicated kashrut thread, or questions belong here?

Is Coca-Cola, Pepsi, sprite, kosher in the whole world, there 2 things I can add to  this

1 when I was in Ukraine they said Coca-Cola is no good only sprite
2 at a shiur by Rabbi Belsky  I remember he vouched for Coca-Cola in the whole us but didn't want to say more
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: TimT on March 06, 2016, 08:28:35 AM
Is there a dedicated kashrut thread, or questions belong here?

Is Coca-Cola, Pepsi, sprite, kosher in the whole world, there 2 things I can add to  this

1 when I was in Ukraine they said Coca-Cola is no good only sprite
2 at a shiur by Rabbi Belsky  I remember he vouched for Coca-Cola in the whole us but didn't want to say more
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16659.0
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 06, 2016, 09:30:17 AM
To do something other than eat after making a bracha?
Most definitely not a hefsek.
Anything that is tzorech haachila is not a hefsek.
Eg. We wait after kidush untill the mekadesh gives out the wine way more than sheilas Shalom.

My question really is whether or not it is a hefsek to make al netilas yadayim. - aurguably this is also dibur letzorech haachila but I'm not sure..

Then the question is whether eating is a hefsek bein netila lebracha!


Eta it's mefurash OK in 167:7
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160306/6c9687bbd723640e32b3e41bbe7f28c0.jpg)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: meme on March 06, 2016, 07:54:28 PM
Any heterim for bidding online before shachris? (On time sensitive item)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 06, 2016, 07:57:26 PM
Most definitely not a hefsek.
Anything that is tzorech haachila is not a hefsek.
Eg. We wait after kidush untill the mekadesh gives out the wine way more than sheilas Shalom.

My question really is whether or not it is a hefsek to make al netilas yadayim. - aurguably this is also dibur letzorech haachila but I'm not sure..

Then the question is whether eating is a hefsek bein netila lebracha!


Eta it's mefurash OK in 167:7
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160306/6c9687bbd723640e32b3e41bbe7f28c0.jpg)
Isn't that mashma that the netilah itself would be problematic?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 06, 2016, 08:01:26 PM
Isn't that mashma that the netilah itself would be problematic?
Great point! See MB
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 06, 2016, 08:14:15 PM
Great point! See MB
I thought it was in gray for a reason ;D

Either way, still doesn't answer your original question. If the washing with a brocha before eating is only bdieved, then maybe it's better to take a bite first.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on March 06, 2016, 08:29:39 PM
I thought it was in gray for a reason ;D

Either way, still doesn't answer your original question. If the washing with a brocha before eating is only bdieved, then maybe it's better to take a bite first.
Because eating without washing is lichatchila?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 06, 2016, 08:38:23 PM
Because eating without washing is lichatchila?
Nu, ha gufa. Which bdieved is better? My point is none if the sources brought so far address the original case directly, or are even close enough to fully resolve the question.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 07, 2016, 09:16:43 AM
I asked my Rov. He wasn't sure on the spot, but his svara rishona was to take a bite holding the bread in a napkin, and then wash with a brocha to eat the rest without the napkin.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 07, 2016, 09:39:15 AM
I asked my Rov. He wasn't sure on the spot, but his svara rishona was to take a bite holding the bread in a napkin, and then wash with a brocha to eat the rest without the napkin.
You discussed the MB?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 07, 2016, 10:06:22 AM
You discussed the MB?
I asked the your original question, and mentioned the MB. To be clear, this certainly wasn't b'toras psak.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Dr Moose on March 10, 2016, 12:34:24 AM
If I'm "borrowing" something from the Walmart gemach, does it still need to be toiveled?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: GAM Z. on March 10, 2016, 12:36:13 AM
If I'm "borrowing" something from the Walmart gemach, does it still need to be toiveled?
IMHO yea, cuz you own it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Centro on March 10, 2016, 12:37:02 AM
If I'm "borrowing" something from the Walmart gemach, does it still need to be toiveled?
Ask the same ruv whom you asked about using the gemach...
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: gubevo18 on March 12, 2016, 08:34:22 PM
Ask the same ruv whom you asked about using the gemach...
+1 very well said
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Freddie on March 12, 2016, 08:38:48 PM
Ask the same ruv whom you asked about using the gemach...
+1
The question is disturbing.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: David Smith on March 12, 2016, 10:00:38 PM
I don't think your right. Read up thread.
Lets say a fundraiser comes to your door and collects for an institution. He is taking a nice percentage. Maybe you should tell him thank you for telling me about the institution I will pay them myself as I want 100% to go to the tzdaka. Furthermore, if you don't do that and actually give it to him,  do you have to call up to find out what percentage he gets and deduct that from what you supposedly gave to maaser?
There is an integral difference. In your example, you are giving the organization $100, of which they are giving 20% to the collector (I just made up random numbers). By using a credit card, you are paying the credit card company $100, for which they are giving $97 to the organization. Just because you are being charged more by the credit card company than the actual donation amount, doesn't mean that you can write off your credit card bill as ma'aser.
If you wouldn't pay the full amount and would have to pay interest on the amount you donated, would you deduct that interest from maaser, being as that's what the donation cost you? Of course not, as at the end of the day, that has nothing to do with what tzedaka received.
 Credit card processing fees essentially mean that you are being charged 3% more than is being paid.
A more accurate example would be if you had a messenger deliver your donation to the organization, and deducting the delivery charge you paid him from maaser. If you send a check in the mail, do you write off the cost of the stamp? I think that may be a better parallel to credit card donations, and the logic I would see in a Rav paskening that.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 12, 2016, 10:12:17 PM
Ask the same ruv whom you asked about using the gemach...
+100
100% assur
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on March 12, 2016, 10:14:43 PM

+100
100% assur
Source?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 12, 2016, 10:16:50 PM
Source?
To buy something to use with 100% intention to return afterwards? Why would that be mutar? I don't recall the source, nor am I your LOR, so do as you please. Just don't look like a Jew when you do
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on March 12, 2016, 10:18:34 PM

To buy something to use with 100% intention to return afterwards? Why would that be mutar? I don't recall the source, nor am I your LOR, so do as you please. Just don't look like a Jew when you do
Most store owners will still tell you to buy it. I'm not saying to do it I'm asking what the reason is to asser it.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 12, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
Most store owners will still tell you to buy it. I'm not saying to do it I'm asking what the reason is to asser it.
I can try to get the source within a day or 2
Eta: I'm not a lubav, but a quick Google search yielded this http://m.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2807335/jewish/Can-I-Buy-Something-if-I-Plan-to-Return-It.htmshttp://m.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2807335/jewish/Can-I-Buy-Something-if-I-Plan-to-Return-It.htm
And another
http://dinonline.org/2011/08/20/buying-with-intention-of-returning/
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on March 12, 2016, 10:31:37 PM
First link didn't work, second link doesn't source anything.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Zevi16 on March 13, 2016, 01:55:38 AM
There is an integral difference. In your example, you are giving the organization $100, of which they are giving 20% to the collector (I just made up random numbers). By using a credit card, you are paying the credit card company $100, for which they are giving $97 to the organization. Just because you are being charged more by the credit card company than the actual donation amount, doesn't mean that you can write off your credit card bill as ma'aser.
If you wouldn't pay the full amount and would have to pay interest on the amount you donated, would you deduct that interest from maaser, being as that's what the donation cost you? Of course not, as at the end of the day, that has nothing to do with what tzedaka received.
 Credit card processing fees essentially mean that you are being charged 3% more than is being paid.
A more accurate example would be if you had a messenger deliver your donation to the organization, and deducting the delivery charge you paid him from maaser. If you send a check in the mail, do you write off the cost of the stamp? I think that may be a better parallel to credit card donations, and the logic I would see in a Rav paskening that.
A collector going around for an organization takes his cut before he gives the rest to the organization. So it works out to be the same.
There are many zdakos that encourage people to go around for them on purim and offer a big cut. The people going around take that money right away.
So you may say it is their choice to use them but it is also their choice to accept credit cards.
I find this discussion is going round in circles.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 13, 2016, 06:34:11 AM
First link didn't work, second link doesn't source anything.
http://m.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2807335/jewish/Can-I-Buy-Something-if-I-Plan-to-Return-It.htm
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: skyguy918 on March 13, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
There is an integral difference. In your example, you are giving the organization $100, of which they are giving 20% to the collector (I just made up random numbers). By using a credit card, you are paying the credit card company $100, for which they are giving $97 to the organization. Just because you are being charged more by the credit card company than the actual donation amount, doesn't mean that you can write off your credit card bill as ma'aser.
If you wouldn't pay the full amount and would have to pay interest on the amount you donated, would you deduct that interest from maaser, being as that's what the donation cost you? Of course not, as at the end of the day, that has nothing to do with what tzedaka received.
 Credit card processing fees essentially mean that you are being charged 3% more than is being paid.
A more accurate example would be if you had a messenger deliver your donation to the organization, and deducting the delivery charge you paid him from maaser. If you send a check in the mail, do you write off the cost of the stamp? I think that may be a better parallel to credit card donations, and the logic I would see in a Rav paskening that.
חילוק שאינו מתחלק
I'm glad you gave the messenger example, because it's a perfect example against your reasoning. It's not like you hiring the messenger, it's like the tzedaka hiring the messenger. You say 3%, but the actual % depends on how they decide to accept CC. There are many ways to do so, and many vendors offering different prices. The tzedaka chooses that, not you. That means it's exactly like the collector, and exactly like a messenger hired by the tzedaka.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: David Smith on March 13, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
I'm glad you gave the messenger example, because it's a perfect example against your reasoning. It's not like you hiring the messenger, it's like the tzedaka hiring the messenger. You say 3%, but the actual % depends on how they decide to accept CC. There are many ways to do so, and many vendors offering different prices. The tzedaka chooses that, not you. That means it's exactly like the collector, and exactly like a messenger hired by the tzedaka.
It's the tzedaka hiring the messenger? Are you writing out a check to tomchei shabbos or amex?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: thaber on March 13, 2016, 06:01:51 PM
If I'm "borrowing" something from the Walmart gemach, does it still need to be toiveled?
you might want to ask a שומר תו"מ to toivel it for you :P
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: afro on March 13, 2016, 11:22:11 PM
Let's put it this way: it's technically mutar to use the Walmart Gemach in a situation where there is no chillul hashem but there hardly is such a situation. Jewish people have a (very) bad rep when it comes to these things and furthering that idea is a chillul hashem. I don't havta remind you that were obligated to give up our life's not to cause a chillul hashem so be careful what you do. End of story (unless everyone wants to salute my Talmudic and Halachick scholarly abilities and genius by giving me a +1  ;D)
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: aygart on March 13, 2016, 11:25:48 PM
Let's put it this way: it's technically mutar to use the Walmart Gemach in a situation where there is no chillul hashem but there hardly is such a situation. Jewish people have a (very) bad rep when it comes to these things and furthering that idea is a chillul hashem. I don't havta remind you that were obligated to give up our life's not to cause a chillul hashem so be careful what you do. End of story (unless everyone wants to salute my Talmudic and Halachick scholarly abilities and genius by giving me a +1  ;D)
How about showing that this has anything to do with halacha by showing some sources.
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 13, 2016, 11:26:09 PM
Let's put it this way: it's technically mutar to use the Walmart Gemach in a situation where there is no chillul hashem but there hardly is such a situation. Jewish people have a (very) bad rep when it comes to these things and furthering that idea is a chillul hashem. I don't havta remind you that were obligated to give up our life's not to cause a chillul hashem so be careful what you do. End of story (unless everyone wants to salute my Talmudic and Halachick scholarly abilities and genius by giving me a +1  ;D)
I don't understand what the issue is.  If Walmart wants to provide us with a gemach, why shouldn't we use it?
Title: Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Post by: yitrap on March 14, 2016, 01:11:20 AM