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Title: Unemployment Help
Post by: yungermanchik on March 26, 2020, 02:37:13 PM
In NYS:
After signing up online, you have to complete your claim by phone. The problem is the call center is always either "busy" or "experiencing a long wait time." Does anyone know of any shortcuts/ back-doors to get through to them to complete a claim?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on March 26, 2020, 05:05:56 PM
In NYS:
After signing up online, you have to complete your claim by phone. The problem is the call center is always either "busy" or "experiencing a long wait time." Does anyone know of any shortcuts/ back-doors to get through to them to complete a claim?
Hang up and redial over and over until you get through
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 01, 2020, 01:09:44 AM
Anyone have experience in NJ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Hamagid on April 01, 2020, 02:41:36 AM
In NYS:
After signing up online, you have to complete your claim by phone. The problem is the call center is always either "busy" or "experiencing a long wait time." Does anyone know of any shortcuts/ back-doors to get through to them to complete a claim?
I did it Saturday night and didn’t had to call anything, I got a message that I have to login every week to tell the days that I did or didn’t work.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yungermanchik on April 01, 2020, 10:40:44 AM
03/20/2020 10:26 AM FromDepartment of Labor
This is an important message about the Unemployment Insurance claim that you just filed
We have received the claim you recently filed on our website. However, you need to speak to an agent to complete it as soon as possible.

To do this, please call our Telephone Claims Center toll free at 888-209-8124. Select your language, then press 9 for the Main Menu. At the Main Menu, press 2 - "To complete your claim..." Please follow the instructions and wait on the line until a representative is available to help you.

this was the message my wife received when she applied two fridays ago
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 01, 2020, 10:55:07 AM
03/20/2020 10:26 AM FromDepartment of Labor
This is an important message about the Unemployment Insurance claim that you just filed
We have received the claim you recently filed on our website. However, you need to speak to an agent to complete it as soon as possible.

To do this, please call our Telephone Claims Center toll free at 888-209-8124. Select your language, then press 9 for the Main Menu. At the Main Menu, press 2 - "To complete your claim..." Please follow the instructions and wait on the line until a representative is available to help you.

this was the message my wife received when she applied two fridays ago
Does everyone need to call or was there something on the app they need to talk to her about?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Joel2 on April 01, 2020, 11:06:27 AM
Does everyone need to call or was there something on the app they need to talk to her about?
Not everyone. Might be a issue that needs to be done manually
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: nucheiner on April 02, 2020, 12:22:12 PM
Anyone have a way to reach an agent for NJ? Seems impossible to get through via phone, tried email option but that's not too promising.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: fineguy on April 20, 2020, 02:41:46 PM
A relative in NJ received unemployment through Jan 2020.

Even those who recently received benefits, and who are still unemployed, seem to be eligible for another round due to COVID-19.
I suppose that the $600 federal is available as well.
I do not see a way to apply online. I can not reach a representative.

Has anyone successfully applied online, spoke to a rep, or know anything about this?

I read the FAQ page but am not sure if it is updated. On the FAQs page:
Yes, if you exhausted your Unemployment benefits, you are likely eligible for 13 additional weeks under Pandemic Unemployment Compensation. However, we are awaiting federal guidance on the specifics of the 13-week extension of unemployment benefits. Please check back frequently for updates.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 03:06:54 PM
A relative in NJ received unemployment through Jan 2020.

Even those who recently received benefits, and who are still unemployed, seem to be eligible for another round due to COVID-19.
I suppose that the $600 federal is available as well.
I do not see a way to apply online. I can not reach a representative.

Has anyone successfully applied online, spoke to a rep, or know anything about this?

I read the FAQ page but am not sure if it is updated. On the FAQs page:
Yes, if you exhausted your Unemployment benefits, you are likely eligible for 13 additional weeks under Pandemic Unemployment Compensation. However, we are awaiting federal guidance on the specifics of the 13-week extension of unemployment benefits. Please check back frequently for updates.
The CARES Act added an additional 13 weeks in benefits to anyone who has exhausted their benefits after 7/1/19.

I've heard that some (in NY) were able to log in and start rectifying again, or had a new application available to them in their account.
It's very possible that NJ hasn't updated their system yet, along with many other states.

And to reiterate, the $600 is available to EVERYONE on unemployment, regardless if it's a new application, or part time unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yitzf on April 20, 2020, 03:33:53 PM
The CARES Act added an additional 13 weeks in benefits to anyone who has exhausted their benefits after 7/1/19.

I've heard that some (in NY) were able to log in and start rectifying again, or had a new application available to them in their account.
It's very possible that NJ hasn't updated their system yet, along with many other states.

And to reiterate, the $600 is available to EVERYONE on unemployment, regardless if it's a new application, or part time unemployment.

So if someone gets a 2% pay cut they can apply for partial unemployment and get $600/week?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 03:35:23 PM
So if someone gets a 2% pay cut they can apply for partial unemployment and get $600/week?
Depends by state, but in NY for example you need to work 3 days or less AND have at least a reduction of 20% in hours, as well as earn $504 or less. If this applies only to some weeks you can still apply, but will only be able to get benefits approved to the weeks that this pertains.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: fineguy on April 20, 2020, 03:37:41 PM
The CARES Act added an additional 13 weeks in benefits to anyone who has exhausted their benefits after 7/1/19.

I've heard that some (in NY) were able to log in and start rectifying again, or had a new application available to them in their account.
It's very possible that NJ hasn't updated their system yet, along with many other states.

And to reiterate, the $600 is available to EVERYONE on unemployment, regardless if it's a new application, or part time unemployment.
Thanks. I guess I will have to check back later. If you hear that the ball has starting rolling, kindly update us.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 20, 2020, 03:38:59 PM
Anyone have experience in NJ?
DW signed up last week online successfully.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
And to reiterate, the $600 is available to EVERYONE on unemployment, regardless if it's a new application, or part time unemployment.

Is someone eligible for UI/PUA in NY if they are partially employed (only a few hours a week) and paid in cash?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 05:06:18 PM
Is someone eligible for UI/PUA in NY if they are partially employed (only a few hours a week) and paid in cash?
Not sure what you mean by "paid in cash", but in NY you must have earned at least $2,400 per quarter in 2019 or $2,600 in 2020 to be eligible. They can use different periods to establish your base rate so it's open for discussion and can be worked out with them, but this is the basics.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 05:10:29 PM
Not sure what you mean by "paid in cash", but in NY you must have earned at least $2,400 per quarter in 2019 or $2,600 in 2020 to be eligible.

This is helpful information, is it true for PUA as well? The individual doesn’t earn much but $600 x 10+ weeks sounds very appealing.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
This is helpful information, is it true for PUA as well? The individual doesn’t earn much but $600 x 10+ weeks sounds very appealing.
Again, the $600 is for anyone on any sort of state approved unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 05:21:08 PM
Again, the $600 is for anyone on any sort of state approved unemployment.

My understanding is that PUA has other provisions, like covering independent contractors, people who worked less than the period of time required for standard UI etc. I’m asking if there’s anything in PUA relevant to my question.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 05:27:18 PM
My understanding is that PUA has other provisions, like covering independent contractors, people who worked less than the period of time required for standard UI etc. I’m asking if there’s anything in PUA relevant to my question.
That's PUA. The additional $600 is the FPUC program, and is for all unemployment recipients, regardless if they're on PUA, standard unemployment, extended unemployment, partial unemployment, etc
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 20, 2020, 06:38:51 PM
Is someone eligible for UI/PUA in NY if they are partially employed (only a few hours a week) and paid in cash?

Do you mean they lost a job that was only a few hours a week, or that they are now only working a few hours a week?

If the first, then 1 - Can they document that income and 2 - will they get in trouble for not having reported the income until now?

If the latter, for each day they work 25% of the based unemployment amount will be deducted, but they will get the full $600.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maylei on April 20, 2020, 09:31:36 PM
My DW got approved and received her first weeks pay for unemployment but today her work called and offered her to work an hour a day and would end up receiving less than her unemployment amount from this 4 hour a week job If she accepts this job will she lose her unemployment? Also if she refuses the job does she lose her unemployment for denying a job?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 09:35:36 PM
Do you mean they lost a job that was only a few hours a week, or that they are now only working a few hours a week?

If the first, then 1 - Can they document that income and 2 - will they get in trouble for not having reported the income until now?

If the latter, for each day they work 25% of the based unemployment amount will be deducted, but they will get the full $600.

They aren’t working at all. Not sure if they can document the income in the pay stub sense, but there was legitimate work and income in case they’re accused of fraudulently filing.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 09:35:49 PM
My DW got approved and received her first weeks pay for unemployment but today her work called and offered her to work an hour a day and would end up receiving less than her unemployment amount from this 4 hour a week job If she accepts this job will she lose her unemployment? Also if she refuses the job does she lose her unemployment for denying a job?
If she was a FT employee before this, working 3 days or less and earning $504 or less in NY will still allow her to be eligible on a prorated basis (25% reduction for each day worked).
Shell receive the supplemental $600 for every week that her claim is approved.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 09:36:49 PM
They aren’t working at all. Not sure if they can document the income in the pay stub sense, but there was legitimate work and income in case they’re accused of fraudulently filing.
If it's not W2 then going the PUA route and declaring as self-employed/gig income is probably best.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 09:38:39 PM
If it's not W2 then going the PUA route and declaring as self-employed/gig income is probably best.

Is PUA also subject to the $2,400-2,600/quarter minimum quoted above?

Thanks all for your help.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 09:48:30 PM
Is PUA also subject to the $2,400-2,600/quarter minimum quoted above?

Thanks all for your help.
Couldn't find that info anywhere. I suggest they apply, as long as you're honest it can't hurt.

Let us know if they get approved.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on April 20, 2020, 09:51:36 PM
If she was a FT employee before this, working 3 days or less and earning $504 or less in NY will still allow her to be eligible on a prorated basis (25% reduction for each day worked).
Shell receive the supplemental $600 for every week that her claim is approved.
Is it confirmed that the supplemental $600 is not prorated? Any unemployment money from the state is accompanied by an automatic $600?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 09:54:45 PM
Is it confirmed that the supplemental $600 is not prorated? Any unemployment money from the state is accompanied by an automatic $600?
Yes, confirmed.
$600 is a flat rate regardless.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 09:57:14 PM
Couldn't find that info anywhere. I suggest they apply, as long as you're honest it can't hurt.

Let us know if they get approved.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're approving without minimum income, because remember the PUA includes a provision that anyone who landed a job pre-coronavirus and was unable to start is also eligible. This includes new entrants to the workforce who have zero employment history or income.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 20, 2020, 09:58:49 PM
If she was a FT employee before this, working 3 days or less and earning $504 or less in NY will still allow her to be eligible on a prorated basis (25% reduction for each day worked).
Shell receive the supplemental $600 for every week that her claim is approved.
Wow, NY is terrible. What's the logic behind 25% reduction per day worked? Shouldn't it be a dollar amount? In NJ it's a dollar for dollar reduction, but the weekly benefit is increased by 20% (but you could never get more than the regular weekly benefit would have been).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:01:58 PM
Wow, NY is terrible. What's the logic behind 25% reduction per day worked? Shouldn't it be a dollar amount? In NJ it's a dollar for dollar reduction, but the weekly benefit is increased by 20% (but you could never get more than the regular weekly benefit would have been).
How can it be a dollar amount when everyone's base rate is different? 25% makes a lot of sense because for 3 days you receive 75% of your base rate, for 2 days 50%, for one day 25%, and at 0 days your at 0%.

What do you mean by saying benefits are increased by 20%? An increase in benefits for working more days and being less unemployed?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 20, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
DW was furloughed and now they want her back with limited hours and limited pay. She should still be eligible for partial unemployment, would she still get the $600?

Also if she turns down the work because there is no daycare now does that preclude her from stating she is willing and able to work?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:07:17 PM
DW was furloughed and now they want her back with limited hours and limited pay. She should still be eligible for partial unemployment, would she still get the $600?
Yes. Please see discussion upthread.

Also if she turns down the work because there is no daycare now does that preclude her from stating she is willing and able to work?
This is tricky. Based on the usual rules she would lose unemployment, but states are showing a lot of flexibility now with work requirements, especially when it comes to those who are staying home for health reasons or out of fear of infecting others.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maylei on April 20, 2020, 10:09:01 PM
Does anyone know an employment lawyer who knows the exact in and out bec this is all very trick and gray
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 20, 2020, 10:12:22 PM
Does anyone know an employment lawyer who knows the exact in and out bec this is all very trick and gray
whats grey and tricky?  all unemployment site write it out perfectly.  doesn't hurt to apply with the real facts. if you get approved then good, and if not, that means not eligible.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 20, 2020, 10:15:43 PM
Yes. Please see discussion upthread.

NY was discussed. I am in NJ.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yungermanchik on April 20, 2020, 10:18:11 PM
whats grey and tricky?  all unemployment site write it out perfectly.  doesn't hurt to apply with the real facts. if you get approved then good, and if not, that means not eligible.
Some people have to decide whether or not to take back a job (in a limited capacity) and make themselves crazy to do it with children in this house to make extra money or if that will make them lose the whole deal. Before applying because the "real facts" are different if you accept the job back or not.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:18:23 PM
NY was discussed. I am in NJ.
The $600 is being funded federally and the laws of eligibility are the same across all states.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 20, 2020, 10:23:00 PM
How can it be a dollar amount when everyone's base rate is different? 25% makes a lot of sense because for 3 days you receive 75% of your base rate, for 2 days 50%, for one day 25%, and at 0 days your at 0%.

What do you mean by saying benefits are increased by 20%? An increase in benefits for working more days and being less unemployed?
From NJ DOL website: https://myunemployment.nj.gov/before/about/calculator/
Quote
If your work hours were reduced, but not completely cut, you may still be able to collect Unemployment Insurance benefits.

NOTE: When claiming benefits, you must report your part-time wages when earned, even if you have not yet been paid.

How we calculate partial Unemployment Insurance benefits

When you claim your weekly benefit, you will let us know if you worked that week. We will ask how many hours you worked and how much you earned (gross) for that week.

To be eligible for partial benefits, you cannot work more than 80 percent of the hours normally worked in the job. For example, if you worked a 40-hour week, you won't be able to get benefits if you work more than 32 hours. If your employer offers additional hours that you choose not to accept, your benefits may be affected.

For any wages earned from any employer:

If you earn 20 percent or less of your weekly benefit rate from an employer, you can still receive your full benefit amount for that week. However, we will not pay you more than your weekly benefit rate.
Here's an example, using a weekly benefit rate (WBR) of $500. Let's say you worked a few days one week and earned $300. For $500, partial weekly benefit rate (PWBR) is $600.  Partial weekly benefit rate PLUS 20 percent.  You would receive $300 as your unemployment benefit for this week.  Your PWBR minus your earnings of $300 equals $300.
Let's take a look at another example. Let's say that one week you worked a few hours and earned $50. For a $500 WBR, your partial benefit rate is $600. $600 minus $50 equals $550. However, since we will never pay more than your WBR, which is $500, your benefit for this week $500. We're not penalizing you (cutting your benefits) because you were able to squeak out some more hours while you were collecting unemployment. We want to get you in the door to work even a little bit, since that's a step toward full reemployment.
If you earn more than 20 percent of your weekly benefit rate from an employer in a given week, your partial weekly benefit payment will be reduced dollar-for-dollar for all gross wages earned that week.
For example, if your weekly benefit rate is $200, your partial weekly benefit rate is $240 (20 percent more than $200.) If you earn $50 (gross) during a week, you would receive $190 in unemployment insurance benefits ($240 – $50 = $190).
Report your gross earnings and all hours worked for the week in which they were earned, not when they are paid.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:27:47 PM
From NJ DOL website: https://myunemployment.nj.gov/before/about/calculator/
Very interesting. Need to give some thought as to the economic impact of both...🤔
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 20, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
Very interesting. Need to give some thought as to the economic impact of both...🤔
Exactly. NJ seems to have very decent benefits. One thing I'm not clear about is if they will calculate 20% above the maximum weekly benefit ($713) or not. I'm assuming they will.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 20, 2020, 10:36:18 PM
Exactly. NJ seems to have very decent benefits. One thing I'm not clear about is if they will calculate 20% above the maximum weekly benefit ($713) or not. I'm assuming they will.
yes they will, just received statement, it says $715 weekly benefit $866 partial weekly benefit
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:40:51 PM
Exactly. NJ seems to have very decent benefits. One thing I'm not clear about is if they will calculate 20% above the maximum weekly benefit ($713) or not. I'm assuming they will.
Wow. And to compare NYs max is $504... embarrassing.
It makes sense that they will, but it's also possible that the law is written in a way that $713 is the absolute ceiling, and 20% only gets tacked on til that point.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:41:41 PM
yes they will, just received statement, it says $715 weekly benefit $866 partial weekly benefit
Impressive!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 20, 2020, 10:44:14 PM


Also if she turns down the work because there is no daycare now does that preclude her from stating she is willing and able to work?

https://www.nj.gov/labor/assets/PDFs/NJWorkersFAQs.pdf

Seems you should be able to get PUA
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:49:44 PM
yes they will, just received statement, it says $715 weekly benefit $866 partial weekly benefit
Based on this, NJ employees have a decent incentive to keep working a few days a week, while NY employees have more of an incentive to give up their jobs completely.

I'm not at all encouraged by the number of people willing to give up work in exchange for 600+. (I don't blame them. Just pointing out to those who said that people will want jobs over money). I think that clause will go down as one of the bigger mistakes in economic history.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 20, 2020, 10:50:52 PM
$713 is the base rate. You get only 60%. The actual maximum benefit is only around 430.
Meaning that's the max wages taken into account? That's a different story altogether. (Although still liking the 20% increase for working partially, and $430 for NJ is not bad if NY is only at $504)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 20, 2020, 10:55:01 PM
$713 is the base rate. You get only 60%. The actual maximum benefit is only around 430.
No. That is incorrect. It's 60% up to a maximum of $713 for 2020.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 20, 2020, 10:56:07 PM
Based on this, NJ employees have a decent incentive to keep working a few days a week, while NY employees have more of an incentive to give up their jobs completely.

I'm not at all encouraged by the number of people willing to give up work in exchange for 600+. (I don't blame them. Just pointing out to those who said that people will want jobs over money). I think that clause will go down as one of the bigger mistakes in economic history.
A reason why people would take $600 over work is just because it's pretty much impossible to work without child care anyways.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 20, 2020, 10:56:33 PM
No. That is incorrect. It's 60% up to a maximum of $713 for 2020.
You are right I deleted that.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 20, 2020, 10:58:07 PM
If my hours got sliced into less than half, but I still work every day can I be eligible for partial unemployment? Or do I need to tell my boss I can only do 3 days for those hours?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 20, 2020, 11:03:57 PM
If my hours got sliced into less than half, but I still work every day can I be eligible for partial unemployment? Or do I need to tell my boss I can only do 3 days for those hours?

I've been trying to get an answer to this question with no success yet. If you find something, please share.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 20, 2020, 11:11:01 PM
If my hours got sliced into less than half, but I still work every day can I be eligible for partial unemployment? Or do I need to tell my boss I can only do 3 days for those hours?



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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 20, 2020, 11:12:40 PM
If my hours got sliced into less than half, but I still work every day can I be eligible for partial unemployment? Or do I need to tell my boss I can only do 3 days for those hours?
From what was quoted upthread in NJ it depends on hours worked not days and in NY it depends you will need to work 3 days or less and have a reduction in hours.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on April 21, 2020, 08:26:07 AM
https://www.bpjcc.org/job-assistance
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 21, 2020, 12:52:31 PM
I need to call in NYS labor dept to claim unemployment for 3 weeks ago. Anyone with recent experience how long wait time is now?
Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 21, 2020, 12:55:26 PM
I need to call in NYS labor dept to claim unemployment for 3 weeks ago. Anyone with recent experience how long wait time is now?
Thanks
Use the secure message center instead. One of the preset requests is to backdate claims
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
Use the secure message center instead. One of the preset requests is to backdate claims
They don't backdate automatically?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 21, 2020, 01:10:05 PM
They don't backdate automatically?
No. You need to put in request for them to release the funds from your layoff date til you actually started filing.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 01:12:18 PM
No. You need to put in request for them to release the funds from your layoff date til you actually started filing.
TY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 21, 2020, 01:30:00 PM
Use the secure message center instead. One of the preset requests is to backdate claims
Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 01:35:27 PM
No. You need to put in request for them to release the funds from your layoff date til you actually started filing.
They need to get their act together, IL backdates.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 01:41:00 PM
They need to get their act together, IL backdates.
You tell them! At least now the website lets you save your progress when filing, instead of crashing at any point so you need to start over each time.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 01:43:08 PM
You tell them! At least now the website lets you save your progress when filing, instead of crashing at any point so you need to start over each time.
Lets face it. If a bankrupt state like IL can do it anyone should be able to do it.  :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 21, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
Use the secure message center instead. One of the preset requests is to backdate claims
I've been getting this question a lot. Here are basic instructions for NY:

1) Log into your UI account
2) Go to your messaging inbox
3) Click "Compose New" from the dropdown menu in the lefthand upper corner
4) Select "Certifications and Payments" as subject
5) Select "How do I claim benefits for a prior week" as secondary subject
6) In the body of your message explain that your last date of employment was X (should match that of your application), and that you haven't certified claims from that date til your first claim date, and are requesting back pay for those weeks

Note: The DOL is overwhelmed, so don't be surprised if it takes them 2-3 weeks to process. You might get a response, or you might just see the extra payments in your Payment History Schedule (Unemployment Services> View Payment History)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on April 21, 2020, 01:55:52 PM
NY Gov Cuomo stated (in today's press conf) there are now 1000 ppl working in the UI dep and things will get better
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on April 21, 2020, 01:58:26 PM
You tell them! At least now the website lets you save your progress when filing, instead of crashing at any point so you need to start over each time.
Browser?
Try using Internet Explorer ::)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shwarmabob on April 21, 2020, 02:12:13 PM
Lets face it. If a bankrupt state like IL can do it anyone should be able to do it.  :)
My state may be more bankrupt than yours
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 02:13:58 PM
NY Gov Cuomo stated (in today's press conf) there are now 1000 ppl working in the UI dep and things will get better

Up from 300, meaning 700 untrained newbies.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 21, 2020, 02:46:35 PM
Up from 300, meaning 700 untrained newbies.

The "specialist" I spoke to last week knew less than I did.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 02:47:35 PM
The "specialist" I spoke to last week knew less than I did.
That's because they aren't on DDF :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 21, 2020, 02:58:19 PM
Any info on backdating unemployment in NJ?
Ordinarily you can't but on the q&a from their website it says due to the current situation You will not lose a day’s benefits as all claims will be backdated to your first day of employment loss.

DW filed her claim and it has the start date from the beginning of the week of filing not from the unemployment date.

Anyone know how to get this backdated or anyone have any experience with this?
 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulemw on April 21, 2020, 03:02:32 PM
any way to backdate benefits in NJ?

don't see anything online
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulemw on April 21, 2020, 03:11:03 PM
I got in the mail a document with how much I will get 2 weeks after applying but online its still saying pending
any idea?
living in NJ
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 03:15:09 PM
Does NY/NJ issue a debit card?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 21, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
Does NY/NJ issue a debit card?
NY does. That or DD
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 21, 2020, 03:25:42 PM
Does it cost the employer if a temp whose term ended goes on unemployment (now that this can be done under CARES)?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 03:27:19 PM
Does NY/NJ issue a debit card?

Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 03:28:14 PM
Does it cost the employer if a temp whose term ended goes on unemployment (now that this can be done under CARES)?

Wouldn’t they be getting PUA which is technically not UI?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: nucheiner on April 21, 2020, 04:55:56 PM
any way to backdate benefits in NJ?

don't see anything online


It should ask you for the "Last Day of Work". I believe this should give you the ability to Claim Benefits for all weeks going back to the week of the Last Day of Work.

The Lakewood LRRC seems pretty knowledgeable. You can email or schedule a phone appointment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: nucheiner on April 21, 2020, 04:59:48 PM
Does NY/NJ issue a debit card?

NJ gives both options.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 05:12:11 PM
Why do you ask?
Daughter received one and was just asking.
Nothing to do with MS.  ;)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 06:44:48 PM
Daughter received one and was just asking.
Nothing to do with MS.  ;)

I thought there was a new UI method... NY issues one as well (for those who don’t provide account info for DD), idr if it was mentioned upthread.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yesitsme on April 21, 2020, 09:33:41 PM
Does it go by the state you live in, or where you had you job?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 09:34:42 PM
Does it go by the state you live in, or where you had you job?
where you worked
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yoshapman on April 22, 2020, 11:04:38 AM
Really appreciate if someone can help guide me here, very confusing.

Laid off 4/17 in NY. Receiving 6 weeks severance form to fill out today, spaced out over 6 weeks. I have 21 days to sign the form. If I sign the form on the 21st day, my first of 3 payments won't hit until the 5/31 payroll. In essence, that is 30+ days passed when I was let go.

New York State Unemployment says the following:

Q: Will I be eligible for benefits if I receive my first dismissal/severance payment more than 30 days after my last day of employment?

A: Yes. If you receive your first dismissal/severance payment more than 30 days after your last day of employment, you will be able to receive Unemployment Insurance benefits if you meet the other eligibility requirements.

1) How does this work? Can I still file for unemployment on the weeks I received a severance payment into my bank account (5/31, 6/15, 6/30). It asks about gross pay over $504 but this isn't from working, and I'm unclear about how I should be going about this. My first filing was today, and I want to make sure I continue to file correctly. Anything else I should know, or does anyone else have any guidance that I can message privately?

2) Has there been any discussion of extending the extra $600 passed 7/31? Someone told me 12/31, but I think 12/31 is just the date for the extra 13 weeks of unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 11:15:01 AM

1) How does this work? Can I still file for unemployment on the weeks I received a severance payment into my bank account (5/31, 6/15, 6/30). It asks about gross pay over $504 but this isn't from working, and I'm unclear about how I should be going about this. My first filing was today, and I want to make sure I continue to file correctly. Anything else I should know, or does anyone else have any guidance that I can message privately?

https://labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/dismissal-severance-pensions-faq.shtm#3
I'm trying to help individuals. Email is chaiplus1@gmail.com



2) Has there been any discussion of extending the extra $600 passed 7/31? Someone told me 12/31, but I think 12/31 is just the date for the extra 13 weeks of unemployment.
Has not yet been extended. If they have any seichel they won't, unless they can get a lot stricter with the work requirements.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yoshapman on April 22, 2020, 11:49:34 AM
https://labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/dismissal-severance-pensions-faq.shtm#3
I'm trying to help individuals. Email is chaiplus1@gmail.com


Has not yet been extended. If they have any seichel they won't, unless they can get a lot stricter with the work requirements.

Going to contact you by email for a few questions, really appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 22, 2020, 12:27:02 PM
What's the earliest day ui can be filed for? The current online form seems to point at 04/20/20. Can an earlier date be filed for/collected? Was just furloughed starting 04/01
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 12:43:40 PM
What's the earliest day ui can be filed for? The current online form seems to point at 04/20/20. Can an earlier date be filed for/collected? Was just furloughed starting 04/01
Yes. You can backdate claims to your layoff date.

I've been getting this question a lot. Here are basic instructions for NY:

1) Log into your UI account
2) Go to your messaging inbox
3) Click "Compose New" from the dropdown menu in the lefthand upper corner
4) Select "Certifications and Payments" as subject
5) Select "How do I claim benefits for a prior week" as secondary subject
6) In the body of your message explain that your last date of employment was X (should match that of your application), and that you haven't certified claims from that date til your first claim date, and are requesting back pay for those weeks

Note: The DOL is overwhelmed, so don't be surprised if it takes them 2-3 weeks to process. You might get a response, or you might just see the extra payments in your Payment History Schedule (Unemployment Services> View Payment History)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 12:44:25 PM
What's the earliest day ui can be filed for? The current online form seems to point at 04/20/20. Can an earlier date be filed for/collected? Was just furloughed starting 04/01
Make sure when you file your initial application do indicate last day worked as 4/1 so that you don't run into troubles when seeking backpay.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 22, 2020, 01:09:37 PM
Make sure when you file your initial application do indicate last day worked as 4/1 so that you don't run into troubles when seeking backpay.
will do, thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 22, 2020, 01:27:25 PM
What's the earliest day ui can be filed for? The current online form seems to point at 04/20/20. Can an earlier date be filed for/collected? Was just furloughed starting 04/01
Every state seems different. They don't ask for last day worked?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 03:37:06 PM
If filed for UI in NY because lack of work and want from now on to file for PUE beacause need to care for kids who are home because of school closure, Do I need to file new claim or by weekly certification should be different options to choose from?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 03:43:04 PM
If filed for UI in NY because lack of work and want from now on to file for PUE beacause need to care for kids who are home because of school closure, Do I need to file new claim or by weekly certification should be different options to choose from?
There's regular UI for W2 employees, and PUA for others. The reason for your unemployment doesn't change which program you're on.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 03:47:09 PM
There's regular UI for W2 employees, and PUA for others. The reason for your unemployment doesn't change which program you're on.
-1
It is under PUA
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/pandemic-unemployment-assistance.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 03:53:54 PM
-1
It is under PUA
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/pandemic-unemployment-assistance.pdf

Did you read the header?

Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) provides payment to workers not traditionally eligible for unemployment benefits (self-employed, independent contractors, workers with limited work history, and others) who are unable to work as a direct result of the coronavirus public health emergency.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 03:55:32 PM
Did you read the header?

Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) provides payment to workers not traditionally eligible for unemployment benefits (self-employed, independent contractors, workers with limited work history, and others) who are unable to work as a direct result of the coronavirus public health emergency.
4th line on this chart
Primary caregiver for child unable to attend school or another facility
closed due to COVID-19
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 03:55:57 PM
4th line on this chart
Primary caregiver for child unable to attend school or another facility
closed due to COVID-19
This chart is only for PUA
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 03:57:07 PM
This chart is only for PUA
Correct. You're only eligible for standard UI or PUA based on employment history. You can't jump around between the two.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: joeb1 on April 22, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
what if you got fired and than filed for unemployment and than work offered teletherapy how do you switch to PUA if you cant do teletherapy bec dealing with kids?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 04:03:29 PM
Correct. You're only eligible for standard UI or PUA based on employment history. You can't jump around between the two.
WHy not?
Originaly my Employer fired me because no work, now he is open again nut I cant go because school closure, why do you think that can't change?
I'm not asking opinions want to know if someone knows facts
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 04:03:56 PM
what if you got fired and than filed for unemployment and than work offered teletherapy how do you switch to PUA if you cant do teletherapy bec dealing with kids?
+1
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 04:09:23 PM
what if you got fired and than filed for unemployment and than work offered teletherapy how do you switch to PUA if you cant do teletherapy bec dealing with kids?
You cannot switch to PUA. If you're refusing to take a job offered you're not eligible for unemployment.

Again, regular UI and PUA are determined by type of previous employment, not by reason of unemployment. Even if the reason for unemployment changes, your previous employment history doesn't change.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 04:09:57 PM
WHy not?
Originaly my Employer fired me because no work, now he is open again nut I cant go because school closure, why do you think that can't change?
I'm not asking opinions want to know if someone knows facts


Again, regular UI and PUA are determined by type of previous employment, not by reason of unemployment. Even if the reason for unemployment changes, your previous employment history doesn't change.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 04:14:04 PM
You cannot switch to PUA. If you're refusing to take a job offered you're not eligible for unemployment.

Again, regular UI and PUA are determined by type of previous employment, not by reason of unemployment. Even if the reason for unemployment changes, your previous employment history doesn't change.
-1
PUA approves UI if you refuse a job because need to take care for children. it defintley depends on the REASON
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: joeb1 on April 22, 2020, 04:15:13 PM


not 100% true

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/pandemic-unemployment-assistance.pdf

ppl who got fired would naturally be under UI however if their work than decides to reopen under teletherapy they fall under PUA if they cant work bec of kids home etc
question is how to switch
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 04:17:06 PM
-1
PUA approves UI if you refuse a job because need to take care for children. it defintley depends on the REASON
I've never heard of this. My understanding is that unfortunately W2 employees are considered able to work when caring for kids, while self-employed are not. If you are able to apply and get approved let me know, because I'd be very interested to hear that.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: joeb1 on April 22, 2020, 04:17:50 PM
where did you see this?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 04:18:21 PM
not 100% true

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/pandemic-unemployment-assistance.pdf

ppl who got fired would naturally be under UI however if their work than decides to reopen under teletherapy they fall under PUA if they cant work bec of kids home etc
question is how to switch
What you're saying isn't stated anywhere in the link. It only says that if you are eligible for PUA, you can file with those reasons. Doesn't say that that chances you from standard UI to PUA. If you see a detailed explanation of it being as you described, kindly let me know.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
where did you see this?

https://labor.ny.gov/ui/coronavirus-faq.shtm#

Q: I cannot work because my child’s school or day care facility has closed due to COVID-19 and I need to stay home to take care of my child. Am I eligible for Unemployment Insurance?
A: While you are only eligible for unemployment insurance benefits if you are able and available to work, under PUA you can receive benefits if you are the primary caregiver for a child whose school or care facility closed due to COVID-19.

Does not say you can switch to PUA. You'd be rejected from PUA to begin with because you qualify for regular UI benefits, due to W2 employment history.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 04:25:27 PM
https://labor.ny.gov/ui/coronavirus-faq.shtm#

Q: I cannot work because my child’s school or day care facility has closed due to COVID-19 and I need to stay home to take care of my child. Am I eligible for Unemployment Insurance?
A: While you are only eligible for unemployment insurance benefits if you are able and available to work, under PUA you can receive benefits if you are the primary caregiver for a child whose school or care facility closed due to COVID-19.

Does not say you can switch to PUA. You'd be rejected from PUA to begin with because you qualify for regular UI benefits, due to W2 employment history.
I know it doesnt say that can switch, but it also doesnt say that I wont be able to switch. Thats my question.

I can always go back to do telework for 1 day and than file a claim for PUA because need to take care for children
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 04:26:33 PM
I've never heard of this. My understanding is that unfortunately W2 employees are considered able to work when caring for kids, while self-employed are not. If you are able to apply and get approved let me know, because I'd be very interested to hear that.
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https://www.dol.gov/coronavirus/unemployment-insurance
W-2 Employees

My employer will let me work from home with pay. However, because my children are out of school and my spouse is working, I need to care for them and it is too difficult to work from home. Under Section 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I)(dd) of the CARES Act, I self-certify that I need my kids to be at school in order for me to be able to work. Do I qualify for PUA?
You may qualify. The CARES Act does provide PUA to an individual who is the “primary caregiver” of a child who is at home due to a forced school closure that directly results from the COVID-19 public health emergency. However, to qualify as a primary caregiver, your provision of care to the child must require such ongoing and constant attention that it is not possible for you to perform your customary work functions at home. For example, if your employer allows you to telework and you are caring for a more mature child who is able to care for him or herself for much of the day, you likely would not qualify for PUA because you are still able to work.

In addition, you should bear in mind that the CARES Act provides PUA only when a child is home because of a school closure that is a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency. A school is not closed as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency, for purposes of 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I)(dd), after the date the school year was originally scheduled to end. That means that, once the school year is over, parents should rely on their customary summer arrangements for caring for their children, and will not, absent some other qualifying circumstances, be eligible to receive PUA. If, however, the facility that they rely on to provide summer care for the child is also closed as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency, they may continue to qualify for PUA. Similarly, if there is some other reason under which they qualify for PUA, they will continue to be eligible to receive benefits.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 22, 2020, 04:28:08 PM
HERE I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!


I was furloughed by my employer, but they have now reopened and asked me to return to my job. Can I remain on unemployment?
No. As a general matter, individuals receiving regular unemployment compensation must act upon any referral to suitable employment and must accept any offer of suitable employment. Barring unusual circumstances, a request that a furloughed employee return to his or her job very likely constitutes an offer of suitable employment that the employee must accept.

While eligibility for PUA does not turn on whether an individual is actively seeking work, it does require that the individual be unemployed, partially employed, or unable or unavailable to work due to certain circumstances that are a direct result of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 public health emergency. In the situation outlined here, an employee who had been furloughed because his or her employer has closed the place of employment would potentially be eligible for PUA while the employer remained closed, assuming the closure was a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency and other qualifying conditions are satisfied. However, as soon as the business reopens and the employee is recalled for work, as in the example above, eligibility for PUA would cease unless the individual could identify some other qualifying circumstance outlined in the CARES Act.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 04:30:50 PM
HERE I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!


I was furloughed by my employer, but they have now reopened and asked me to return to my job. Can I remain on unemployment?
No. As a general matter, individuals receiving regular unemployment compensation must act upon any referral to suitable employment and must accept any offer of suitable employment. Barring unusual circumstances, a request that a furloughed employee return to his or her job very likely constitutes an offer of suitable employment that the employee must accept.

While eligibility for PUA does not turn on whether an individual is actively seeking work, it does require that the individual be unemployed, partially employed, or unable or unavailable to work due to certain circumstances that are a direct result of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 public health emergency. In the situation outlined here, an employee who had been furloughed because his or her employer has closed the place of employment would potentially be eligible for PUA while the employer remained closed, assuming the closure was a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency and other qualifying conditions are satisfied. However, as soon as the business reopens and the employee is recalled for work, as in the example above, eligibility for PUA would cease unless the individual could identify some other qualifying circumstance outlined in the CARES Act.

Sounds good. Now let's see if they'll let you :)
I suggest you call them or send them a message through the message center.
Let us know how it goes. Really keen on this.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 22, 2020, 04:31:45 PM

I can always go back to do telework for 1 day and than file a claim for PUA because need to take care for children
BTW if you're working 3 days or less now and earning less than $504 from your PT work, you're eligible for standard partial unemployment without attempting the PUA route.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: joeb1 on April 22, 2020, 04:45:08 PM
Sounds good. Now let's see if they'll let you :)
I suggest you call them or send them a message through the message center.
Let us know how it goes. Really keen on this.

1. this is new so they have no idea how to deal with it
2. i have tried to call them 250 times impossible to get thru
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2020, 05:57:06 PM
2. i have tried to call them 250 times impossible to get thru
+50
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on April 22, 2020, 06:56:42 PM
They dont reply to the secure messages either.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 22, 2020, 08:35:49 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/22/ocasio-cortez-calls-for-national-work-boycott/
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 22, 2020, 10:00:39 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/22/ocasio-cortez-calls-for-national-work-boycott/

Let her lead by example and quit her job. She’s way too young to be the cranky old lady that she is.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 23, 2020, 11:09:28 AM
Applied for UI  and got msg that they will call within 72 hours. are they actually sticking to that timeframe?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 23, 2020, 11:24:15 AM
Applied for UI  and got msg that they will call within 72 hours. are they actually sticking to that timeframe?
Not at all, but many who got that message had their claims approved without a call. Just check your account daily to see if you're able to start certifying claims. If you can, your application was processed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 23, 2020, 11:53:55 AM
Anyone get PUA already? I applied for UI a few weeks ago. Got a $0.00 DD into my account about 4 weeks ago and nothing since. They notified me that I was ineligible as expected because I'm self-employed and instructed me to fill out PUA form, which I did a week ago. Havent heard anything since.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 23, 2020, 12:11:46 PM
Anyone get PUA already? I applied for UI a few weeks ago. Got a $0.00 DD into my account about 4 weeks ago and nothing since. They notified me that I was ineligible as expected because I'm self-employed and instructed me to fill out PUA form, which I did a week ago. Havent heard anything since.
i know someone in NJ getting.  but he was a w2 employee getting regular as well
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 23, 2020, 12:13:46 PM
Not at all, but many who got that message had their claims approved without a call. Just check your account daily to see if you're able to start certifying claims. If you can, your application was processed.
thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on April 23, 2020, 12:15:34 PM
i know someone in NJ getting.  but he was a w2 employee getting regular as well
That's not PUA, you meen the extra $600 I'm assuming.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 12HRS on April 23, 2020, 12:29:22 PM
Anyone get PUA already? I applied for UI a few weeks ago. Got a $0.00 DD into my account about 4 weeks ago and nothing since. They notified me that I was ineligible as expected because I'm self-employed and instructed me to fill out PUA form, which I did a week ago. Havent heard anything since.

in the same boat as you, frustrating
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 23, 2020, 12:31:31 PM
Anyone get PUA already? I applied for UI a few weeks ago. Got a $0.00 DD into my account about 4 weeks ago and nothing since. They notified me that I was ineligible as expected because I'm self-employed and instructed me to fill out PUA form, which I did a week ago. Havent heard anything since.
PUA in NY seems to be a mess. I know several who applied over 2 weeks ago and still nothing.
No phone call, no confirmations, zilch.
When calling the call center and following all prompts the recording says "Due to the high volume of calls we cannot accept your call" and the line disconnects. Beyond frustrating.
I'm not worried that all those won't eventually receive funding, but with rent due next week the cash will be needed by many.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 23, 2020, 01:03:52 PM
That's not PUA, you meen the extra $600 I'm assuming.
oh sorry
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: fineguy on April 23, 2020, 01:40:29 PM
A relative in NJ received unemployment through Jan 2020.

Even those who recently received benefits, and who are still unemployed, seem to be eligible for another round due to COVID-19.
I suppose that the $600 federal is available as well.
I do not see a way to apply online. I can not reach a representative.

Has anyone successfully applied online, spoke to a rep, or know anything about this?

I read the FAQ page but am not sure if it is updated. On the FAQs page:
Yes, if you exhausted your Unemployment benefits, you are likely eligible for 13 additional weeks under Pandemic Unemployment Compensation. However, we are awaiting federal guidance on the specifics of the 13-week extension of unemployment benefits. Please check back frequently for updates.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shwarmabob on April 23, 2020, 02:32:58 PM
Anyone get PUA already? I applied for UI a few weeks ago. Got a $0.00 DD into my account about 4 weeks ago and nothing since. They notified me that I was ineligible as expected because I'm self-employed and instructed me to fill out PUA form, which I did a week ago. Havent heard anything since.
Son applied for UI, was told to call to complete application. NYS never picked up the phone. A couple of weeks later he applied for PUA. The phone message eventually said that they will call back every applicant. They never called and he did not receive a penny so far.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: troner100 on April 23, 2020, 04:38:59 PM
If you stopped  working a few weeks before you applied for unemployment, how can you get the money from those weeks missed. (NJ)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on April 23, 2020, 04:41:30 PM
If someone applies for unemployment due to reduced hours, are they eligible for the $600? (in NJ.)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 23, 2020, 04:56:54 PM
If you stopped  working a few weeks before you applied for unemployment, how can you get the money from those weeks missed. (NJ)
Try calling or sending a message (not sure if NJ has that) that you want to backdate claims.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 23, 2020, 04:57:21 PM
If someone applies for unemployment due to reduced hours, are they eligible for the $600? (in NJ.)
Yes, anyone one any sort of unemployment is receiving the $600.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on April 23, 2020, 05:38:01 PM
Yes, anyone one any sort of unemployment is receiving the $600.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yk on April 23, 2020, 09:56:06 PM
Does anyone know if someone was working two jobs and lost one of them (the lower paying one), if they can get the $600 per week from federal?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 23, 2020, 10:04:32 PM
Does anyone know if someone was working two jobs and lost one of them (the lower paying one), if they can get the $600 per week from federal?
If they qualify for partial unemployment, they qualify.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 23, 2020, 10:05:09 PM
If they qualify for partial unemployment, they qualify.
I think we can use a Wiki. I must have said that any unemployment qualifies for the $600 at least 15 times by now...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zevi on April 23, 2020, 10:15:15 PM
When Checking the status in NJ it shows
Claim status: filed
Date of claim 3/29
Rate: $0
Didn’t get any other follow up email or mail as it says you usually do.
How long usually does it take for it to arrive, and what other verification info would they require.

 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 23, 2020, 10:59:31 PM
When Checking the status in NJ it shows
Claim status: filed
Date of claim 3/29
Rate: $0
Didn’t get any other follow up email or mail as it says you usually do.
How long usually does it take for it to arrive, and what other verification info would they require.
Are you supposed to be eligible for PUA instead of regular unemployment? I'm hearing that in NJ, those who are supposed to be on PUA are receiving a $0 benefit determination, with no word (yet) on how to proceed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on April 23, 2020, 11:06:50 PM
Are you supposed to be eligible for PUA instead of regular unemployment? I'm hearing that in NJ, those who are supposed to be on PUA are receiving a $0 benefit determination, with no word (yet) on how to proceed.
Yup.
Quote
Dear Claimant:
 
We are pleased to inform you we have completed an automated review of your New Jersey Unemployment Insurance claim. You no longer need to speak with an agent.  The status of your claim has changed. Please go online and check the status of your unemployment insurance claim here.
 
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS/FREELANCERS/GIG WORKER/SELF-EMPLOYED WHO WERE DENIED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS:
 
The regular unemployment insurance program was not designed to provide unemployment insurance coverage for this category of work. However, if you are an independent contractor/freelancer/gig worker/self-employed who was determined to be ineligible for regular unemployment insurance  (the Weekly Benefit Rate on your claim status will read $0), you may be eligible for other recently created federal benefits, such as Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA).
 
Please visit our website -- nj.gov/labor -- for more information on how to qualify for federal benefits under the CARES Act.  At this time, you do not have to do anything further. The Division of Unemployment Insurance will notify you when PUA is ready to be implemented.  We are working with other states and the federal government to implement this new benefit program as fast as possible for the residents of New Jersey.
 
If you  are eligible for PUA, you will receive retroactive unemployment benefits for the PUA program to Feb. 2, 2020, or whenever your business was impacted by COVID-19.
 
Further, anyone who is eligible for PUA is also eligible for a $600 weekly supplement (starting the week of March 29th) and for a 13-week extension of benefits beyond the normal 26 weeks. You do not have to do anything further. You will receive these supplemental benefits once the PUA process is complete.
 
IF YOU WERE DEEMED ELIGIBLE FOR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS:

If the Weekly Benefit Rate on your claim status contains a dollar figure other than $0, the next step is to certify for your weekly benefits at MyUnemployment.nj.gov. Though this process may be new to you, it is easily explained here.
 
Thank you for your understanding as the Division on Unemployment Insurance continues to address this historic volume of claims due to this ongoing public health emergency.
 
 Sincerely,
 
Division of Unemployment Insurance
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 23, 2020, 11:29:44 PM
Yup.
It's very tough.
Out of work for over a month but since self-employed no benefits have come yet. (NJ)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: chinagel on April 23, 2020, 11:31:39 PM
Can someone wikify the process for NY/NJ? Having a difficult time understanding it.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 24, 2020, 12:05:45 AM
Anyone get PUA already? I applied for UI a few weeks ago. Got a $0.00 DD into my account about 4 weeks ago and nothing since. They notified me that I was ineligible as expected because I'm self-employed and instructed me to fill out PUA form, which I did a week ago. Havent heard anything since.

I applied for regular unemployment at the beginning of April expecting to be denied so that I can apply for PUA. Yesterday the site was updated and shows that I was approved. Not sure how/why
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 24, 2020, 12:08:30 AM
Can someone wikify the process for NY/NJ? Having a difficult time understanding it.

I think this is the new (consolidated) system for NY. Unemployment.Labor.NY.GOV
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 12:09:51 AM
I applied for regular unemployment at the beginning of April expecting to be denied so that I can apply for PUA. Yesterday the site was updated and shows that I was approved. Not sure how/why
I thought I was approved and got $0 then 2 weeks in they said fill out PUA form.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 24, 2020, 12:14:21 AM
I thought I was approved and got $0 then 2 weeks in they said fill out PUA form.

The site already shows my benefit amount for the first 2 weeks (and shows the $600 for each week). It says the DD was released and  will take 3 days to show up in my account.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 24, 2020, 12:15:53 AM
I thought I was approved and got $0 then 2 weeks in they said fill out PUA form.
How were you told to fill out a PUA form - email, phone?
I only received the above-quoted email saying to just wait.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 24, 2020, 12:16:34 AM
I applied for regular unemployment at the beginning of April expecting to be denied so that I can apply for PUA. Yesterday the site was updated and shows that I was approved. Not sure how/why
Did you have W2 income in 2019 even though you were self-employed after? Seen this where they had previous wages in the system and just went by that.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 12:17:24 AM
How were you told to fill out a PUA form - email, phone?
I only received the above-quoted email saying to just wait.
Alert by email to read message in Labor Dept Inbox
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 12:19:40 AM
Did you have W2 income in 2019 even though you were self-employed after? Seen this where they had previous wages in the system and just went by that.
I actually had W2 from 2018 and it asked me if I was claiming against that company. If you checked the wrong employer maybe thats what happened.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 24, 2020, 12:27:10 AM
I actually had W2 from 2018 and it asked me if I was claiming against that company. If you checked the wrong employer maybe thats what happened.
Based on the application instructions, you are supposed to select all employers from the last 18 months. Most of 2018 would be too far back, but if you had a 2019 employer it's definitely possible.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 12:31:20 AM
Based on the application instructions, you are supposed to select all employers from the last 18 months. Most of 2018 would be too far back, but if you had a 2019 employer it's definitely possible.

I missed that I guess. I left that place in December  2018. The guy didnt pay his Workers Comp and other Labor Dept expenses. They have a judgment against the company so doubt it would make a difference.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 24, 2020, 12:35:15 AM
Anyone got the additional $600 in NJ yet?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 24, 2020, 12:39:49 AM

I missed that I guess. I left that place in December  2018. The guy didnt pay his Workers Comp and other Labor Dept expenses. They have a judgment against the company so doubt it would make a difference.
That far back they would probably want you to go on PUA and declare your own income anyway.
I understand that in peace-time it makes sense to go 18 months back, but now with PUA it's just annoying and complicates things.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 24, 2020, 12:40:35 AM
Anyone got the additional $600 in NJ yet?
i know someone in NJ getting.  but he was a w2 employee getting regular as well
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 24, 2020, 12:41:58 AM

Thanks. Regular DD came a couple of days ago, no sign of the extra $600 yet.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 24, 2020, 12:46:03 AM
Did you have W2 income in 2019 even though you were self-employed after?

I am still on W2, but not qualified for regular unemployment because I'm clergy.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 24, 2020, 01:06:51 AM
Thanks. Regular DD came a couple of days ago, no sign of the extra $600 yet.
hopefully tomorrow is your lucky day ;)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: JunkYardUnz on April 24, 2020, 01:10:00 AM
I am still on W2, but not qualified for regular unemployment because I'm clergy.
Are you asking if you get the PUA on the parsonage?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Proisrael on April 24, 2020, 02:38:09 AM
Can anyone please guide me regarding PUA? I was self employed/contractor. I live in NJ. I was approved for 0$ benefit rate. I am completely lost and not sure who to talk to.

thank you!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on April 24, 2020, 03:03:07 AM
Can anyone please guide me regarding PUA? I was self employed/contractor. I live in NJ. I was approved for 0$ benefit rate. I am completely lost and not sure who to talk to.

thank you!
You applied for PUA or through reg unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on April 24, 2020, 07:08:35 AM
If I’m self-employed and I am making a lot less money because my hours are limited because I’m now busy with childcare, can I apply for unemployment? PUA?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Proisrael on April 24, 2020, 07:11:18 AM
You applied for PUA or through reg unemployment?

Regular....I didn't see an option for PUA
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 24, 2020, 07:15:08 AM
Regular....I didn't see an option for PUA

In NY there wasn’t a PUA option until a week or so ago.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 24, 2020, 07:16:48 AM
If I’m self-employed and I am making a lot less money because my hours are limited because I’m now busy with childcare, can I apply for unemployment? PUA?

This is classic PUA, depending on how much you work/earn would determine your exact eligibility/benefits. Great to qualify for unemployment (via PUA) even if the unemployment payout is low, because it makes you eligible for the extra/flat $600/week for the federal government.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Proisrael on April 24, 2020, 07:23:20 AM
In NY there wasn’t a PUA option until a week or so ago.

So NJ does not have a PUA option?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 24, 2020, 07:32:20 AM
So NJ does not have a PUA option?

I have no idea what the NJ application process, but PUA is federally funded and I’m sure it’s available in NJ, not sure how you apply.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on April 24, 2020, 08:58:24 AM
So NJ does not have a PUA option?
Not yet, they say they're working on it and in the meantime you should apply for regular UI.

https://myunemployment.nj.gov/independentcontractors.shtml
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Proisrael on April 24, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
Not yet, they say they're working on it and in the meantime you should apply for regular UI.

https://myunemployment.nj.gov/independentcontractors.shtml

I applied but it shows 0$ as how much I get.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on April 24, 2020, 09:35:57 AM
This is classic PUA, depending on how much you work/earn would determine your exact eligibility/benefits. Great to qualify for unemployment (via PUA) even if the unemployment payout is low, because it makes you eligible for the extra/flat $600/week for the federal government.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 24, 2020, 09:39:16 AM
I applied but it shows 0$ as how much I get.
Check upthread but that seems to be normal for NJ right now. You'll need to wait for further instructions on how to proceed with PUA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 24, 2020, 10:10:55 AM
Alert by email to read message in Labor Dept Inbox
Strange.
All I got was an email saying to wait with a link to this https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/assets/pdfs/UI_process_selfemployed.pdf
which doesn't either say anything about applying for PUA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 24, 2020, 11:23:45 AM
Can someone wikify the process for NY/NJ? Having a difficult time understanding it.
Took a stab at it. Need someone with more info on NJ process to update.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: chinagel on April 24, 2020, 12:13:27 PM
Took a stab at it. Need someone with more info on NJ process to update.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yoshapman on April 24, 2020, 12:48:10 PM
Laid off 4/17, so started first filing in NY last Wednesday corresponding with the letter of my name. Said "To complete your claim, a Department of Labor call center agent will call you within 72 hours." Has this been happening, meaning have people been getting calls, or do I actually have to call up to complete something before they would start paying? Also, is all I have to do is login for 2 minutes every Wednesday and confirm that I am looking for work and have not been paid anything that week, or is there something more to it? First time ever doing this, and after original filing didn't receive any email confirmation or further instructions, so just want to make sure I'm doing it correctly.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 24, 2020, 12:59:04 PM
Said "To complete your claim, a Department of Labor call center agent will call you within 72 hours." Has this been happening, meaning have people been getting calls, or do I actually have to call up to complete something before they would start paying?

They haven't been calling many, but some are getting approvals even if they got that message, so just log into your account to see if you're able to certify. If you are, you're approved (assuming you didn't get a $0 benefit determination).

Also, is all I have to do is login for 2 minutes every Wednesday and confirm that I am looking for work and have not been paid anything that week, or is there something more to it?

Just that. Shouldn't take more than a min each week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on April 24, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
Thank you @cgr for the informative wiki!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 05:50:36 PM
DP: Just got my PUA in NY. 8 days after filling out the PUA form online. DD into Capital One
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 24, 2020, 06:47:15 PM
DP: Just got my PUA in NY. 8 days after filling out the PUA form online. DD into Capital One

Mazal Tov, did they pay you for all the weeks you didn’t work?

Just the PUA or the $600 as well?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 06:52:11 PM
Mazal Tov, did they pay you for all the weeks you didn’t work?

Just the PUA or the $600 as well?
PUA is $600 IINM

Only got $600 no clue for what period. Doesnt show up in the Payments section of my NYS claim. Came in as NYS DOL UI DD
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 24, 2020, 06:55:58 PM
PUA is $600 IINM

Only got $600 no clue for what period. Doesnt show up in the Payments section of my NYS claim. Came in as NYS DOL UI DD

Then you probably just got the federal $600 flat bonus, dunno what that’s called. PUA is extended eligibility for people not typically eligible for UI (such as self-employed or independent contractors). If you got PUA then you’d end up getting your weekly benefits + $600 week.

Unlikely to be UI because as NYS caps weekly benefits at $504.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 06:59:21 PM
Then you probably just got the federal $600 flat bonus, dunno what that’s called. PUA is extended eligibility for people not typically eligible for UI (such as self-employed or independent contractors). If you got PUA then you’d end up getting your weekly benefits + $600 week.

Unlikely to be UI because as NYS caps weekly benefits at $504.
So I got the bonus. I was denied by NYS as self employed so i guess thats all Im getting?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 24, 2020, 07:01:38 PM
So I got the bonus. I was denied by NYS as self employed so i guess thats all Im getting?

Something doesn’t make sense, my understanding is that:
1. As self employed you should be eligible for PUA
2. The $600 is supposed to be for anyone who is eligible for UI/PUA, which wouldn’t apply to you if you’re denied.

Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 24, 2020, 07:18:53 PM
Something doesn’t make sense, my understanding is that:
1. As self employed you should be eligible for PUA
2. The $600 is supposed to be for anyone who is eligible for UI/PUA, which wouldn’t apply to you if you’re denied.
Welcome to my world. I just say Thank You Hashem.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 25, 2020, 10:35:53 PM
Welcome to my world. I just say Thank You Hashem.

Does your online account show your status as pending, or denied?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 25, 2020, 11:32:48 PM
Does your online account show your status as pending, or denied?
Says pending. Got letter today cant make heads or tails out of it. Says my benefit is $0
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 25, 2020, 11:33:08 PM
My sister in NY also just got the $600 flat.  I guess this is easy to calculate and its extra so first things first they are giving this and worrying later about the regular UI

Says pending. Got letter today cant make heads or tails out of it. Says my benefit is $0

I think easiest is to wait until this blows over a bit and collect all back money then. 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 25, 2020, 11:34:10 PM
My sister in NY also just got the $600 flat.  I guess this is easy to calculate and its extra so first things first they are giving this and worrying later about the regular UI

Was she also “denied”?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 25, 2020, 11:39:32 PM
hopefully tomorrow is your lucky day ;)
Still nothing. :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 25, 2020, 11:49:31 PM
Was she also “denied”?
I'm not sure.  Will keep you posted.  Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 26, 2020, 12:02:19 AM
Says pending. Got letter today cant make heads or tails out of it. Says my benefit is $0
I know someone who got a $0 determination and is definitely eligible for regular UI (W2, long work history). Hasn't been able to talk to anyone of course, but looks like these errors are happening here and there. At least you're getting your $600...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 12HRS on April 26, 2020, 12:38:41 AM
Something doesn’t make sense, my understanding is that:
2. The $600 is supposed to be for anyone who is eligible for UI/PUA, which wouldn’t apply to you if you’re denied.

Being denied for UI(because of self employed) should not ruin eligibility for PUA
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 12:56:53 AM
Being denied for UI(because of self employed) should not ruin eligibility for PUA

I believe @hvaces42 said he applied for PUA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 12HRS on April 26, 2020, 01:00:29 AM
I believe @hvaces42 said he applied for PUA.

in ny you have to first apply for UI and then they send you a PUA application a couple days later
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 12HRS on April 26, 2020, 01:03:15 AM
Didn't the recently make it a combined application?

maybe but he applied before me and mine was that way (need a shrug emoji)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 01:03:51 AM
in ny you have to first apply for UI and then they send you a PUA application a couple days later

1. He filled out the PUA form:
DP: Just got my PUA in NY. 8 days after filling out the PUA form online. DD into Capital One

2. As of approx a week ago there's a combined application for both.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 01:04:50 AM
maybe but he applied before me and mine was that way (need a shrug emoji)

See my revised post where I quote that he applied for PUA. One of us is confused and considering the hour I wouldn't be surprised if it's me :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 26, 2020, 10:01:24 AM
 what's the average wait time these days for a call back? (Ny)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 26, 2020, 10:05:01 AM
what's the average wait time these days for a call back? (Ny)

I applied before they started the callback system, but I got a call about a week after it started.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 26, 2020, 11:03:05 AM
I applied before they started the callback system, but I got a call about a week after it started.
thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 26, 2020, 11:16:34 AM
I am self-employed in NJ.
We applied a month ago and received an email two weeks ago that we are denied the regular unemployment benefits but should be getting the PUA and should just wait.
In the meantime I keep re-certifying every week. Although, today the site wasn't working.
Haven't gotten anything yet.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 11:21:36 AM
I am self-employed in NJ.
We applied a month ago and received an email two weeks ago that we are denied the regular unemployment benefits but should be getting the PUA and should just wait.
In the meantime I keep re-certifying every week. Although, today the site wasn't working.
Haven't gotten anything yet.

Apparently it’s only 10-20 states that have figured out the $600 and PUA, don’t remember where I read this.

Some of these UI mainframe systems are build on COBOL which is older than most of the people claiming benefits :D
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on April 26, 2020, 11:33:37 AM
I am self-employed in NJ.
We applied a month ago and received an email two weeks ago that we are denied the regular unemployment benefits but should be getting the PUA and should just wait.
In the meantime I keep re-certifying every week. Although, today the site wasn't working.
Haven't gotten anything yet.
Curious why you recertified, they write not do do anything until they figure out how to process it.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on April 26, 2020, 11:33:42 AM
Are people who have lost their job applying for SNAP benefits? If so, how would it work if you qualify for SNAP due to current (lack of) income but in a month, unemployment may kick in and will also be backdated...?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 26, 2020, 11:35:22 AM
I know someone who got a $0 determination and is definitely eligible for regular UI (W2, long work history). Hasn't been able to talk to anyone of course, but looks like these errors are happening here and there. At least you're getting your $600...
Letter was Benefits determination letter with $000.00 weekly rate.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 11:39:26 AM
Letter was Benefits determination letter with $000.00 weekly rate.

I’m seeing $0 benefits but my status is pending, not denied.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 26, 2020, 11:56:40 AM
Apparently it’s only 10-20 states that have figured out the $600 and PUA, don’t remember where I read this.

Some of these UI mainframe systems are build on COBOL which is older than most of the people claiming benefits :D
Well, I'm supposed to be getting 2/3 of my weekly income from the State + $600 a week from Federal.
So far, haven't received a penny.
It's been 5 1/2 weeks.
Not so simple financially.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 26, 2020, 11:57:18 AM
Are people who have lost their job applying for SNAP benefits? If so, how would it work if you qualify for SNAP due to current (lack of) income but in a month, unemployment may kick in and will also be backdated...?
Wondering it the UI counts as income for programs as these. CARES Act clearly states that the additional $600 won't count as income towards Medicaid and CHIP eligibility, but haven't seen anything about other programs. Safe to assume it does count? Regarding Medicaid is it possible to be on for a month or two (assuming you can start a new plan after being kicked off)? Do they look at monthly income or annual?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 26, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
Curious why you recertified, they write not do do anything until they figure out how to process it.
I was afraid if I don't re-certify they may later deny me for these weeks.
Anyways, their site was down this morning.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 11:59:50 AM
Well, I'm supposed to be getting 2/3 of my weekly income from the State + $600 a week from Federal.
So far, haven't received a penny.
It's been 5 1/2 weeks.
Not so simple financially.

Every week these funds are delayed could cause the economic recovery to be delayed by multiple weeks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 12:01:42 PM
Wondering it the UI counts as income for programs as these. CARES Act clearly states that the additional $600 won't count as income towards Medicaid and CHIP eligibility, but haven't seen anything about other programs. Safe to assume it does count? Regarding Medicaid is it possible to be on for a month or two (assuming you can start a new plan after being kicked off)? Do they look at monthly income or annual?

If UI is your current income you’re probably income-eligible for SNAP. The max for UI isn’t that high, especially for married people with children (who can have a higher income and still be eligible for SNAP).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 26, 2020, 12:07:18 PM
If UI is your current income you’re probably income-eligible for SNAP. The max for UI isn’t that high, especially for married people with children (who can have a higher income and still be eligible for SNAP).
Since I'm helping a diverse population of people- single, married, childless, etc was wondering about the actual rule if it counts or not. SNAP office phones seem just as bad as the DOL, and I have a feeling even if I get through they won't necessarily know. (Like when I called the PFL office to ask about the new rules, and the agent had to call her supervisor with my questions and his response was "I'm sorry, we don't know the rules".)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 12:11:11 PM
Since I'm helping a diverse population of people- single, married, childless, etc was wondering about the actual rule if it counts or not. SNAP office phones seem just as bad as the DOL, and I have a feeling even if I get through they won't necessarily know. (Like when I called the PFL office to ask about the new rules, and the agent had to call her supervisor with my questions and his response was "I'm sorry, we don't know the rules".)

Apply for snap before you get unemployment, by the time you need to recertify things will hopefully be better 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 26, 2020, 12:26:52 PM
Since I'm helping a diverse population of people- single, married, childless, etc was wondering about the actual rule if it counts or not. SNAP office phones seem just as bad as the DOL, and I have a feeling even if I get through they won't necessarily know. (Like when I called the PFL office to ask about the new rules, and the agent had to call her supervisor with my questions and his response was "I'm sorry, we don't know the rules".)

FYI, in NY they increased the SNAP benefits for March and April to the Maximum Monthly Benefit Amount. Not sure how it will work for people who apply now.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on April 26, 2020, 02:01:30 PM
For NJ: https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/COVID-19-Government-Help-Updated-4-24-20.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 27, 2020, 11:17:59 AM
i applied in nj around 3 weeks ago, and still show pending. every week i get an email explaining how to recertify every week. am i supposed to be answering those questions every week if i was never even approved yet?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: metsgiantsfan on April 27, 2020, 11:19:37 AM
i applied in nj around 3 weeks ago, and still show pending. every week i get an email explaining how to recertify every week. am i supposed to be answering those questions every week if i was never even approved yet?

I would reply. Atleast in NY it can take up to 3 weeks and once approved youll get a few worth
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 27, 2020, 11:21:04 AM
i applied in nj around 3 weeks ago, and still show pending. every week i get an email explaining how to recertify every week. am i supposed to be answering those questions every week if i was never even approved yet?
Dont know about NJ but in NY you need to certify every week. When they approve you should get for all weeks. Doesnt really work that way with the $600 AFAIK
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 27, 2020, 11:22:06 AM
Dont know about NJ but in NY you need to certify every week. When they approve you should get for all weeks. Doesnt really work that way with the $600 AFAIK
600$ is not retroactive?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: hvaces42 on April 27, 2020, 11:23:17 AM
600$ is not retroactive?
I applied a month ago. Got declined last week and got 1 $600 payment last week with no info. So I dont know if it is or isnt.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 27, 2020, 11:25:12 AM
600$ is not retroactive?
It is. You might need to request if they don't do automatically. It's for all claims between 3/28 and 7/31, regardless if you certified those claims on time, or put in a request to certify after the fact.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 27, 2020, 11:25:48 AM
600$ is not retroactive?

It’s supposed to be retroactive, but the $600 federal bonus is only for weekly benefits since 4/5, so not all the way back to March and earlier.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on April 27, 2020, 11:29:22 AM
It is. You might need to request if they don't do automatically. It's for all claims between 3/28 and 7/31, regardless if you certified those claims on time, or put in a request to certify after the fact.

It’s supposed to be retroactive, but the $600 federal bonus is only for weekly benefits since 4/5, so not all the way back to March and earlier.
thank you
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 27, 2020, 12:24:06 PM
i applied in nj around 3 weeks ago, and still show pending. every week i get an email explaining how to recertify every week. am i supposed to be answering those questions every week if i was never even approved yet?
yes.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 27, 2020, 02:34:08 PM
Anyone have a direct extension of a DOL Unemployment rep? Been trying to reach them for a week now. No luck.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 27, 2020, 02:39:40 PM
Anyone have a direct extension of a DOL Unemployment rep? Been trying to reach them for a week now. No luck.
lol  good luck with that.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 27, 2020, 02:46:02 PM
Dont know about NJ but in NY you need to certify every week. When they approve you should get for all weeks. Doesnt really work that way with the $600 AFAIK
Same in NJ.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 27, 2020, 04:08:33 PM
lol  good luck with that.
Don't think it should be that hard... I had a direct extension to an agent in June '19. Tried looking it up by my phone doesn't save extension #'s... didn't know how valuable it would be.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 27, 2020, 04:09:05 PM
Don't think it should be that hard... I had a direct extension to an agent in June '19. Tried looking it up by my phone doesn't save extension #'s... didn't know how valuable it would be.
How many digits? Just try all the options, you still might save time :D
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 27, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
How many digits? Just try all the options, you still might save time :D
4 digits. I'll let you try that...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on April 27, 2020, 04:32:17 PM
Anyone have a direct extension of a DOL Unemployment rep? Been trying to reach them for a week now. No luck.

My state assemblywoman's office put me on a list for a callback. It took about a week for them to call.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 27, 2020, 04:44:24 PM
4 digits. I'll let you try that...
Might still be faster than a callback :D
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 27, 2020, 09:19:29 PM
It was our day to re-certify for unemployment benefits (NJ) and we keep getting a screen saying to call their number.
We already know it's impossible to get through to someone.
What can we do to not lose this week's benefits?

(Data points: self-employed, was denied, received email to wait for PUA to go into effect, haven't received anything yet.)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 27, 2020, 09:29:58 PM
It was our day to re-certify for unemployment benefits (NJ) and we keep getting a screen saying to call their number.
We already know it's impossible to get through to someone.
What can we do to not lose this week's benefits?

(Data points: self-employed, was denied, received email to wait for PUA to go into effect, haven't received anything yet.)
Take a screenshot and either message to them, or when you do manage to get through if they tell you you missed your window show them that.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 27, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
Take a screenshot and either message to them, or when you do manage to get through if they tell you you missed your window show them that.
Thank you.
We don't know how to message them.
We took a screenshot, but how would that show the date?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 27, 2020, 10:16:03 PM
I am shocked IL is on top of this.
Apply online - no issue
Debit card - received with in a week
Approval letter - day or two after debit card
First check - right on time
Fed 600 - included
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 27, 2020, 10:19:39 PM
I am shocked IL is on top of this.
Apply online - no issue
Debit card - received with in a week
Approval letter - day or two after debit card
First check - right on time
Fed 600 - included
Are you W2 or self-employed? W2 is much smoother.
IL lost considerably fewer jobs than NY & NJ.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 12HRS on April 27, 2020, 10:30:30 PM
I am shocked IL is on top of this.
Apply online - no issue
Debit card - received with in a week
Approval letter - day or two after debit card
First check - right on time
Fed 600 - included

no DD option?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on April 27, 2020, 10:30:53 PM
I am shocked IL is on top of this.
Apply online - no issue
Debit card - received with in a week
Approval letter - day or two after debit card
First check - right on time
Fed 600 - included
Any houses for sale in your area?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 27, 2020, 10:32:30 PM
Are you W2 or self-employed? W2 is much smoother.
IL lost considerably fewer jobs than NY & NJ.

W2 is also an established process, PUA is new and had to be figured out ad-hoc.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 27, 2020, 10:33:37 PM
Are you W2 or self-employed? W2 is much smoother.
IL lost considerably fewer jobs than NY & NJ.
All W2's
no DD option?
When approval letter comes.
Any houses for sale in your area?
We have strict zoning laws but I have a room available.  :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 27, 2020, 10:47:34 PM
Thank you.
We don't know how to message them.
We took a screenshot, but how would that show the date?
See this link https://myunemployment.nj.gov/help/contact-us/
Click on To send us an email

maybe try including your status bar that has the date in the screenshot.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 28, 2020, 10:14:35 AM
See this link https://myunemployment.nj.gov/help/contact-us/
Click on To send us an email

maybe try including your status bar that has the date in the screenshot.
Thanks.
We actually got through on the phone to an office in NJ, though not the Ocean County one.
Hopefully, it'll all work out.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 28, 2020, 10:16:42 AM
What happens to industries such as sales? Say the salesman went onto unemployment as there were no sales and thus no commission, is he allowed to answers his customers emails/calls? Or is that considered working even though there is no pay?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 28, 2020, 11:00:58 AM
What happens to industries such as sales? Say the salesman went onto unemployment as there were no sales and thus no commission, is he allowed to answers his customers emails/calls? Or is that considered working even though there is no pay?
I will take that to the next step. What about a salesperson who is paid residually? The hit will only come down the road.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: CountValentine on April 28, 2020, 11:04:38 AM
What happens to industries such as sales? Say the salesman went onto unemployment as there were no sales and thus no commission, is he allowed to answers his customers emails/calls? Or is that considered working even though there is no pay?
You just put down he worked and made 0 or is he volunteering his time?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 28, 2020, 01:43:51 PM
What happens to industries such as sales? Say the salesman went onto unemployment as there were no sales and thus no commission, is he allowed to answers his customers emails/calls? Or is that considered working even though there is no pay?
speak to your employer. my wife's employer realized that no sales are being made and he furloughed all the workers. regarding answering calls and emails. i told my wife to refer all her clients to her boss, who is still working.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 28, 2020, 05:22:06 PM
You just put down he worked and made 0 or is he volunteering his time?
In NY they dont ask you how much you are earning. Only if you are earning less than $504 and how many days you work. Thats why im wondering if he will have to put down that he working but earning less than $504, as he is earning 0.
speak to your employer. my wife's employer realized that no sales are being made and he furloughed all the workers. regarding answering calls and emails. i told my wife to refer all her clients to her boss, who is still working.
In this case he has his own accounts and customers and earns only commission. As there are no sales, he is earning nothing, but want to keep his customers for post corona. If he stops servicing them, there is the fear that they will go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2020, 05:24:00 PM
In NY they dont ask you how much you are earning. Only if you are earning less than $504 and how many days you work. Thats why im wondering if he will have to put down that he working but earning less than $504, as he is earning 0.

$0 is less than $504, so yes. Put 0 days worked and earned less than $504. If you’re deemed eligible you get $504 from the state plus $600 from the Fed (paid by NY state as well).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 06:25:20 PM
$0 is less than $504, so yes. Put 0 days worked and earned less than $504. If you’re deemed eligible you get $504 from the state plus $600 from the Fed (paid by NY state as well).
It's two separate questions.
Did you earn less than $504?
Did you work any days? How many?

You get a 25% base rate cut for every day worked.

Makes you wish for brief moment that you lived in NJ...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 28, 2020, 06:26:46 PM
It's two separate questions.
Did you earn less than $504?
Did you work any days? How many?

You get a 25% base rate cut for every day worked.
Earned $0. Did answer phone calls and emails from customers. Is that considered working even though he did not earn a cent and no actual work was performed? Thats my question.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 06:44:31 PM
Earned $0. Did answer phone calls and emails from customers. Is that considered working even though he did not earn a cent and no actual work was performed? Thats my question.

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#7
Each day or part of a day of work causes your weekly benefit rate to drop by one-quarter.
It's not how much less than $504 you earn that matters, it's how much work you put in.
And yes, an hour a day over 5 days is considered 5 days work.
Makes you  hate NY just a little bit more.

To compare, in NJ it's by earnings, not by amount worked (as long as you're working at least 20% less you're eligible), and you can earn an additional 20% on top of your base rate for working partially (instead of being penalized, like in NY). Not to mention their max base rate is $713...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 28, 2020, 06:47:02 PM
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#7
Each day or part of a day of work causes your weekly benefit rate to drop by one-quarter.
It's not how much less than $504 you earn that matters, it's how much work you put in.
And yes, an hour a day over 5 days is considered 5 days work.
Makes you  hate NY just a little bit more.

To compare, in NJ it's by earnings, not by amount worked (as long as you're working at least 20% less you're eligible), and you can earn an additional 20% on top of your base rate for working partially (instead of being penalized, like in NY). Not to mention their max base rate is $713...
I should just tell him to NJ then... NY system so messed up
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 28, 2020, 07:23:54 PM
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#7
Each day or part of a day of work causes your weekly benefit rate to drop by one-quarter.
It's not how much less than $504 you earn that matters, it's how much work you put in.
And yes, an hour a day over 5 days is considered 5 days work.
Makes you  hate NY just a little bit more.

To compare, in NJ it's by earnings, not by amount worked (as long as you're working at least 20% less you're eligible), and you can earn an additional 20% on top of your base rate for working partially (instead of being penalized, like in NY). Not to mention their max base rate is $713...
Yup. For once, NJ law actually makes some sense.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 28, 2020, 08:40:19 PM
I should just tell him to NJ then... NY system so messed up
If nj would only give out funds...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 08:43:34 PM
If nj would only give out funds...
And NY is?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 28, 2020, 09:05:12 PM
If nj would only give out funds...
6 weeks and waiting......
Not sure how much longer we can last....
Hashem Ya'azor.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 28, 2020, 09:06:41 PM
And NY is?
I got my money the week after I applied.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 09:09:00 PM
I got my money the week after I applied.
Wow! Did you backdate? Was that a while ago before they got swamped?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2020, 09:09:57 PM
I got my money the week after I applied.

Probably not PUA...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 09:10:37 PM
Probably not PUA...
But people who get PUA also get regular UI, no?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 09:12:32 PM
But people who get PUA also get regular UI, no?
No. PUA is the Unemployment insurance for the unemployed.
You're probably thinking of FPUC which is the supplemental $600/weekly
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 09:13:23 PM
6 weeks and waiting......
Not sure how much longer we can last....
Hashem Ya'azor.
Tried the message center?
Just had several people who finally started seeing some payments after going that route (non PUA though)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 09:14:29 PM
No. PUA is the Unemployment insurance for the unemployed.
You're probably thinking of FPUC which is the supplemental $600/weekly
Aha. Okay well I'm still waiting on a regular UI claim (plus FPUC) filed 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 09:15:04 PM
Tried the message center?
Just had several people who finally started seeing some payments after going that route (non PUA though)
How long after sending the message?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on April 28, 2020, 09:22:39 PM
Aha. Okay well I'm still waiting on a regular UI claim (plus FPUC) filed 3 weeks ago.
Was your application approved when submitted or needed to call in?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 09:23:25 PM
Was your application approved when submitted or needed to call in?
Approved
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on April 28, 2020, 09:26:06 PM
Tried the message center?
Just had several people who finally started seeing some payments after going that route (non PUA though)
You can message them in NJ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on April 28, 2020, 09:28:38 PM
Approved
Have you been filing / certifying weekly claims? Direct deposit info accurate?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 09:37:10 PM
How long after sending the message?
Less than a week.
Not the case for backdated claims. Only for issues with stuck payments or inability to certify.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 09:38:19 PM
You can message them in NJ?

See this link https://myunemployment.nj.gov/help/contact-us/
Click on To send us an email

Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Less than a week.
Not the case for backdated claims. Only for issues with stuck payments or inability to certify.
Aha
Have you been filing / certifying weekly claims? Direct deposit info accurate?
Yes and yes. The problem I think is that the first two weeks I certified both included pesach, so both had 2 days where I couldn't work, so they put both weeks into my 'waiting period' (which is supposed to be waived but I guess it's not automatic?)

Also need it to be backdated 2+ weeks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 28, 2020, 09:55:46 PM
No. PUA is the Unemployment insurance for the unemployed.
You're probably thinking of FPUC which is the supplemental $600/weekly
Help me get this straight -
PUA is 2/3 of earnings and FPUC is $600 weekly on top of that?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 28, 2020, 09:57:25 PM
for those applied in NJ,

go to unemployment site>if you already filed a claim tab>online applicants>update your information

when you login over there look all the way left side on bottom under my UI appointments, do you see anything? by me it shows appointment on May 6th
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 28, 2020, 10:03:54 PM
for those applied in NJ,

go to unemployment site>if you already filed a claim tab>online applicants>update your information

when you login over there look all the way left side on bottom under my UI appointments, do you see anything? by me it shows appointment on May 6th
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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on April 28, 2020, 10:07:06 PM
Showing - No events to display.
Same here
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 28, 2020, 10:09:37 PM
Wow! Did you backdate? Was that a while ago before they got swamped?
Did not backdate. Applied a week before pesach. Money comes in every week BH
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 10:10:31 PM
Did not backdate. Applied a week before pesach. Money comes in every week BH
Good for you!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 28, 2020, 10:14:02 PM
Did not backdate. Applied a week before pesach. Money comes in every week BH
Lucky you.
My guess is you are not self-employed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 28, 2020, 10:14:45 PM
Lucky you.
My guess is you are not self-employed.
BH not. Yes, I thank Hashem every day for the money. Dont know how I would survive otherwise.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 10:15:00 PM
Help me get this straight -
PUA is 2/3 of earnings and FPUC is $600 weekly on top of that?
The % of wages for PUA depends on the state. From what I've seen it's calculated the same as standard Unemployment. Also has same maximum but different minimum.

Correct re FPUC.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 28, 2020, 10:15:56 PM
Tried the message center?
Just had several people who finally started seeing some payments after going that route (non PUA though)
Thank you.
Just tried.
Hopefully, it'll work out.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 28, 2020, 10:16:40 PM
The % of wages for PUA depends on the state. From what I've seen it's calculated the same as standard Unemployment. Also has same maximum but different minimum.

Correct re FPUC.
Thanks.
I believe in NJ it's 2/3 of earnings.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 10:25:35 PM
Thanks.
I believe in NJ it's 2/3 of earnings.
Up to a maximum
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 11:00:47 PM
Anyone know if someone who was paid via parsonage, and then laid off, is eligible for UI (or PUA)?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 28, 2020, 11:02:05 PM
In a way I am feeling bad for keeping all of my employees on.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 28, 2020, 11:02:53 PM
In a way I am feeling bad for keeping all of my employees on.
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/21/838879361/bitter-taste-for-coffee-shop-owner-as-new-600-jobless-benefit-closed-her-busines
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 29, 2020, 12:02:38 AM
Thanks.
I believe in NJ it's 2/3 of earnings.
60% up to $713
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on April 29, 2020, 12:04:16 AM
Anyone tried to transition from full unemployment to partial unemployment in NJ? Did you keep getting the funds without a problem?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: RewardsAddict on April 29, 2020, 12:05:03 AM
Anyone tried to transition from full unemployment to partial unemployment in NJ? Did you keep getting the funds without a problem?
I did. Got the money easily. (NY)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 29, 2020, 12:08:37 AM
Anyone tried to transition from full unemployment to partial unemployment in NJ? Did you keep getting the funds without a problem?
No issues in NJ.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Pupashtetl on April 29, 2020, 12:16:27 AM
Anyone know if someone who was paid via parsonage, and then laid off, is eligible for UI (or PUA)?

Anyone with any info on this?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 12:45:29 AM
Anyone know if someone who was paid via parsonage, and then laid off, is eligible for UI (or PUA)?
A) law will vary from state to state
B) is the parsonage income declared anywhere?
C) was there additional income? If not did you lose parsonage and are claiming unemployment because of that?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 12:47:18 AM
A) law will vary from state to state
B) is the parsonage income declared anywhere?
NY
AFAF so I will find out

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 09:01:57 AM
B) is the parsonage income declared anywhere?
It was on a W2 (with no taxes taken off)

C) will find out
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on April 29, 2020, 10:30:01 AM
DW applied in NJ last week (regular UI) and recertified yesterday. Just got an email today that money is being sent to my bank.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 11:07:19 AM
It was on a W2 (with no taxes taken off)

C) will find out
If he paid into UI fund for his W2 wages, he'll go on regular unemployment and his rate will be determined by his Box 1 wages.
If he didn't pay into the fund and is eligible for PUA (some states are allowing religious organization employees and clergy members to qualify, others are not), his W2 will once again be his proof of wages. I doubt they'll look at any box other than Box 1 to determine the rate. My understanding is that parsonage is usually declared in Box 14.

If he does get approved for his housing allowance, please let me know. I'm working on putting together a chart for non-profits that shows in which state they're eligible and if that includes W2 employees or 1099 only. There is very little published information to go on so firsthand accounts are appreciated.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 29, 2020, 11:13:08 AM
i tried re-certifying at my appointed time and got a message to call in because "your certification can not be processed". i tried calling in, and the automated system says that call volume is too high, please call back another day. what do i do now?
(i took a screenshot, and i sent an email through the contact-us option.) anything else to do but wait?
(i am still "pending" for 3 weeks and never recieved any mail)
NJ regular UI
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: nucheiner on April 29, 2020, 12:15:58 PM
Anyone successfully submit a NJ dependency application and get a higher benefit rate?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 12:42:23 PM
If anyone successfully gets through to an agent in NY or NJ please make an effort to get their direct extension, and post in the wiki.
You'll be helping scores of people.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 29, 2020, 01:35:51 PM
If anyone successfully gets through to an agent in NY or NJ please make an effort to get their direct extension, and post in the wiki.
You'll be helping scores of people.
Try calling the Cumberland number.
We got through.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 01:58:08 PM
If he paid into UI fund for his W2 wages, he'll go on regular unemployment and his rate will be determined by his Box 1 wages.
If he didn't pay into the fund and is eligible for PUA (some states are allowing religious organization employees and clergy members to qualify, others are not), his W2 will once again be his proof of wages. I doubt they'll look at any box other than Box 1 to determine the rate. My understanding is that parsonage is usually declared in Box 14.

If he does get approved for his housing allowance, please let me know. I'm working on putting together a chart for non-profits that shows in which state they're eligible and if that includes W2 employees or 1099 only. There is very little published information to go on so firsthand accounts are appreciated.
Thanks! Will try to report back.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 29, 2020, 02:58:18 PM
Try calling the Cumberland number.
We got through.
what time did you call, and what option did you press? i can't get through to anybody
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 29, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
i tried re-certifying at my appointed time and got a message to call in because "your certification can not be processed". i tried calling in, and the automated system says that call volume is too high, please call back another day. what do i do now?
(i took a screenshot, and i sent an email through the contact-us option.) anything else to do but wait?
(i am still "pending" for 3 weeks and never recieved any mail)
NJ regular UI
i called one of the numbers and tried certifying over the phone, i got a response that i cant certify because there is something wrong with my application and therefore i should open a new claim. when i try and open a new claim it says that i have an existing claim...

any ideas?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on April 29, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
How far back can I retroactively apply for PUI benefits? NY.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
How far back can I retroactively apply for PUI benefits? NY.
PUA benefits can be paid retroactively for periods of unemployment, beginning on or after January 27, 2020.
https://labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/ui-covid-faq.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 04:06:16 PM
PUA benefits can be paid retroactively for periods of unemployment, beginning on or after January 27, 2020.
https://labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/ui-covid-faq.pdf
What about the extra $600, does that also go back that far?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 04:31:01 PM
What about the extra $600, does that also go back that far?
Check the Wiki
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 29, 2020, 04:36:49 PM
what time did you call, and what option did you press? i can't get through to anybody
8:30 AM, right when they open - before things get busy.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 04:37:06 PM
Check the Wiki
Quote
3/28/20-7/31/20
Do you have a source for that? Couldn't find it online...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 29, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
Do you have a source for that? Couldn't find it online...
because the $600 isnt for dates before 4/2 regardless
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 04:39:24 PM
because the $600 isnt for dates before 4/2 regardless
Do you have a source for that? Couldn't find it online...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on April 29, 2020, 04:40:34 PM
No issues in NJ.

Can I ask what you did?
Just report earnings when recertifying or there is a process?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on April 29, 2020, 04:49:49 PM
because the $600 isnt for dates before 4/2 regardless
I got the full $600 for the week 3/30-4/5
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 05:01:26 PM
Do you have a source for that? Couldn't find it online...
The exact dates vary by state, but per the CARES Act it's available for the dates mentioned.
In NY, the exact dates are 4/5/20 thru 7/31/20 (claims for week ending in 4/5 are for week starting on 3/30).
https://dol.ny.gov/coronavirus-aid-relief-and-economic-security-cares-act
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on April 29, 2020, 05:05:27 PM
@cgr should be praised and applauded for all the questions answered here.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 05:13:04 PM
@cgr should be praised and applauded for all the questions answered here.
Thank you. Glad to be of help when so many are struggling.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on April 29, 2020, 05:15:28 PM
PUA benefits can be paid retroactively for periods of unemployment, beginning on or after January 27, 2020.
https://labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/ui-covid-faq.pdf
Was the 7 waiting period waived back then as well? iirc you needed one week of waiting before anything kicks in? Or I would be able to claim that 1st week missing, in essence I signed up a week late.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 29, 2020, 05:16:17 PM
I got the full $600 for the week 3/30-4/5
i meant for week of 4/2 (i see its really 4/5, but same point stands)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 05:16:54 PM
Was the 7 waiting period waived back then as well? iirc you needed one week of waiting before anything kicks in? Or I would be able to claim that 1st week missing, in essence I signed up a week late.
FWIW this is from 3/16
https://qns.com/story/2020/03/16/new-york-state-waiving-waiting-period-for-unemployment-insurance-benefits/
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 05:20:26 PM
FWIW this is from 3/16
https://qns.com/story/2020/03/16/new-york-state-waiving-waiting-period-for-unemployment-insurance-benefits/
Actually from 3/12. It's for individuals impacted by the COVID-19 public health crisis. (I guess if you select "No" when asked if you were laid off for coronavirus reasons, you will have a waiting week.)
https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/articles/2020/brad-hoylman/unemployment-insurance-benefits-faq-new-york-state-department
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 05:23:12 PM
Actually from 3/12. It's for individuals impacted by the COVID-19 public health crisis. (I guess if you select "No" when asked if you were laid off for coronavirus reasons, you will have a waiting week.)
https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/articles/2020/brad-hoylman/unemployment-insurance-benefits-faq-new-york-state-department
(I meant the article is from the 16th)
So here's my issue then: When I filled out the old form, they asked if your workplace closed due to covid. I wrote no because it didn't close (they just laid everyone off). The new form asked if your job was impacted by covid so I would have written yes. Do you think they will apply the waiting week?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 05:27:52 PM
If he paid into UI fund for his W2 wages, he'll go on regular unemployment and his rate will be determined by his Box 1 wages.
If he didn't pay into the fund and is eligible for PUA (some states are allowing religious organization employees and clergy members to qualify, others are not), his W2 will once again be his proof of wages. I doubt they'll look at any box other than Box 1 to determine the rate. My understanding is that parsonage is usually declared in Box 14.

If he does get approved for his housing allowance, please let me know. I'm working on putting together a chart for non-profits that shows in which state they're eligible and if that includes W2 employees or 1099 only. There is very little published information to go on so firsthand accounts are appreciated.
I've been doing some more research on housing allowance/parsonage.
NY asks for "net income" to determine PUA. No clear guidance on what to include.

Based on other states requirements, I'm advising to calculate and provide documentation for the following (don't add in losses to your total. Those count as 0)
1040 Return-  Line 7b
Schedule C-  Line 31
Schedule E-  Line 32

In other words- if it carries through to your personal return on one of these Schedules, you should include. If you receive a determination and they tell you that they specifically excluded one of these from your calculation, please let me know.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 05:29:12 PM
(I meant the article is from the 16th)
So here's my issue then: When I filled out the old form, they asked if your workplace closed due to covid. I wrote no because it didn't close (they just laid everyone off). The new form asked if your job was impacted by covid so I would have written yes. Do you think they will apply the waiting week?
So far, I've seen everyone approved for standard UI get a waiting week. It doesn't seem to be automatic.
I suggest you message them and explain the situation. When they got around to paying everyone for that, you should definitely be included as well.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 05:31:45 PM
So far, I've seen everyone approved for standard UI get a waiting week. It doesn't seem to be automatic.
I suggest you message them and explain the situation. When they got around to paying everyone for that, you should definitely be included as well.
I already messaged them about backdating like 2 weeks ago and haven't heard anything back. Do you think I should send another message? Or once they look at backdating they will cancel the waiting week also?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 29, 2020, 05:52:35 PM
For NJ PUA eligible individuals finally some news

https://www.nj.gov/labor/lwdhome/press/2020/20200429_puapayments.shtml
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 05:55:43 PM
I already messaged them about backdating like 2 weeks ago and haven't heard anything back. Do you think I should send another message? Or once they look at backdating they will cancel the waiting week also?
I suggest you message them since you originally selected "No" when asked about coronavirus.
They might not automatically give you that week if you don't tell them it was an error.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 05:56:03 PM
Great news!
Just found out that the DOL fine-tuned the definition (again) for the $600.
Here it is: The federal supplement would not affect eligibility for other benefits like Medicaid, CHIP, SNAP, and housing assistance.
I know a few who were rejected by SNAP because UI income was too high, if that happens you'll need to file for a conference/hearing to explain why you are eligible.
Here is the official source if they ask for it: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/files/documents/UC%20FAQ.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on April 29, 2020, 06:12:32 PM
Any idea how this works in NY?

"What about workers who are not laid off, but have their hours reduced?
Individuals who are still working are generally not eligible for UC benefits. However, the Take Responsibility
for Workers and Families Act makes a substantial federal investment in supporting Short-Time Compensation
(STC) or “work sharing” programs, which allow employers to make an agreement with the state UC program to
reduce hours, instead of laying people off, and then have workers receive partial UC benefits for their lost
hours. Workers in STC programs would receive $300 a week in Federal Pandemic Unemployment
Compensation, as well. However, workers with reduced hours who were not part of STC programs would not
receive UC."
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mlight on April 29, 2020, 07:19:41 PM
For someone that is paid by a yeshiva and reports as parsonage in NJ, what is the process for filing unemployment? No other income.
Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 07:24:50 PM
I suggest you message them since you originally selected "No" when asked about coronavirus.
They might not automatically give you that week if you don't tell them it was an error.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 07:30:12 PM
For someone that is paid by a yeshiva and reports as parsonage in NJ, what is the process for filing unemployment? No other income.
Thanks
Did you lose the parsonage and that's why you're claiming?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mlight on April 29, 2020, 07:54:56 PM
Did you lose the parsonage and that's why you're claiming?
Yes
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 12HRS on April 29, 2020, 07:59:43 PM
Great news!
Just found out that the DOL fine-tuned the definition (again) for the $600.
Here it is: The federal supplement would not affect eligibility for other benefits like Medicaid, CHIP, SNAP, and housing assistance.
I know a few who were rejected by SNAP because UI income was too high, if that happens you'll need to file for a conference/hearing to explain why you are eligible.
Here is the official source if they ask for it: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/files/documents/UC%20FAQ.pdf

do we know if the federal portion is taxable?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 08:07:08 PM
do we know if the federal portion is taxable?
Taxed same as regular UI. Fed and State I come tax. No FICA as it's unearned income.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 08:08:04 PM
Yes

Does this work for you?

I've been doing some more research on housing allowance/parsonage.
NY asks for "net income" to determine PUA. No clear guidance on what to include.

Based on other states requirements, I'm advising to calculate and provide documentation for the following (don't add in losses to your total. Those count as 0)
1040 Return-  Line 7b
Schedule C-  Line 31
Schedule E-  Line 32

In other words- if it carries through to your personal return on one of these Schedules, you should include. If you receive a determination and they tell you that they specifically excluded one of these from your calculation, please let me know.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mlight on April 29, 2020, 08:49:50 PM
Does this work for you?
Chinese to me but thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 29, 2020, 09:07:42 PM
NJ
If we originally asked for our benefits to be given by debit card and now we changed our mind and would like to receive the benefits with direct deposit, what is an efficient way to change that?
On the website we can only find a form to fill out and mail back. That seems like making an already complicated situation even more complicated.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on April 29, 2020, 09:15:28 PM
NJ
If we originally asked for our benefits to be given by debit card and now we changed our mind and would like to receive the benefits with direct deposit, what is an efficient way to change that?
On the website we can only find a form to fill out and mail back. That seems like making an already complicated situation even more complicated.
When you login, there's a tab to update DD info.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 29, 2020, 09:44:58 PM
When you login, there's a tab to update DD info.
That's where I was.
I only see an option to print and mail a form not to just change the info on the website.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 29, 2020, 10:08:48 PM
Great news!
Just found out that the DOL fine-tuned the definition (again) for the $600.
Here it is: The federal supplement would not affect eligibility for other benefits like Medicaid, CHIP, SNAP, and housing assistance.
I know a few who were rejected by SNAP because UI income was too high, if that happens you'll need to file for a conference/hearing to explain why you are eligible.
Here is the official source if they ask for it: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/files/documents/UC%20FAQ.pdf
WOW! THANKS
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 29, 2020, 10:11:24 PM
Taxed same as regular UI. Fed and State I come tax. No FICA as it's unearned income.
Assuming that till end of year the dems will make sure to remove it from personal income
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 29, 2020, 11:46:02 PM
Quote
Your claim is now eligible for payment of Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA).

You are also eligible for an additional $600 per week through Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (FPUC).

On Friday, May 1, the first day to certify for your benefits, please carefully follow the instructions below. There are multiple steps you will need to complete in one sitting. One set of questions will ask about your coronavirus-related need for unemployment assistance. A second set of questions certifies your weekly employment situation.

Answering these weekly certification questions differently than described in the

instructions will delay payment.
Review the
coronavirus-specific instructions on how to answer the questions to certify for your benefits. Print out these instructions or keep the webpage open as you certify.
Locate
the exact time on Friday, May 1 that you are permitted to access the certifying system.
Login
 at your specific time on Friday, May 1. The process must be completed all at once.
Answer the questions on the PUA Self-Certification Page about your coronavirus-related situation.
Review the
instructions for certification for benefits. Again, print out these instructions or keep the webpage open as you certify.


Answer the certifying questions. Submit.
If the "Claim Additional Week" button appears in the center-bottom of screen, click the button and complete a certification for each week available on your claim. There may be multiple weeks available to you, which would allow you to receive multiple weeks of benefits.
Continue to click on "Claim Additional Week" until that button no longer appears after answering the certifying questions.
If you certify for

benefits on May 1, you will receive payment on Tuesday, May 5 and, on the same day, receive the Pandemic Unemployment Compensation of $600 per week for each week you certified.
If you miss your scheduled certification time window on May 1, you will be able to certify on Saturday, May 2, in the time slot specified for your Social Security number. Please note that if you certify Saturday, May 2, you will not receive the Pandemic Unemployment Compensation of $600 per week for each week you certified

until May 12.
Three tips to ensure timely payment: 

Certify this Friday. 
Answer the questions according to the instructions. 
Certify for each week available to your claim.
Thank you for your patience as we expand unemployment insurance eligibility to meet your needs.

Division of Unemployment Insurance

New Jersey Department of Labor

 

Helpful links:

How to understand and answer weekly certification questions: https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/covidinstructions.shtml
Locating your time each week to log-in and certify for benefits: 

https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml
Frequently Asked Questions: 

https://www.nj.gov/labor/worker-protections/earnedsick/covidFAQ.shtml
 

Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Willie on April 30, 2020, 10:04:35 AM
How Long after sending NY DOL a message should i get a response?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 30, 2020, 10:24:45 AM
Mordyk -
You received that message as an email or you logged in to the site to find it?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 30, 2020, 10:51:09 AM
How Long after sending NY DOL a message should i get a response?
Don't expect a response. The best you can hope for after 2-3 weeks is that they do whatever you asked them to.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 30, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
Mordyk -
You received that message as an email or you logged in to the site to find it?
email
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 30, 2020, 11:21:42 AM
Hypothetical question
Was employed in NYS for $400 a week, was fired from job filed UI. a week later find new job working 3 days paying $500 a week, em I eligible for partial UI+PUA?  ;D
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 30, 2020, 11:25:52 AM
Hypothetical question
Was employed in NYS for $400 a week, was fired from job filed UI. a week later find new job working 3 days paying $500 a week, em I eligible for partial UI+PUA?  ;D
Was the original job FT? or also 3 days?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 30, 2020, 11:29:41 AM
Was the original job FT? or also 3 days?
FT
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 30, 2020, 11:35:13 AM
FT
Not giving you legal advice here, just my opinion, but technically you were never supposed to go off unemployment. Don't see why you shouldn't be able to file again. Your claim is probably still open. Just go in and start re-certifying.
You might even be able to retroactively file claims for those weeks you were PT and didn't know you were eligible to file.
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#8
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on April 30, 2020, 12:08:00 PM
Not giving you legal advice here, just my opinion, but technically you were never supposed to go off unemployment. Don't see why you shouldn't be able to file again. Your claim is probably still open. Just go in and start re-certifying.
You might even be able to retroactively file claims for those weeks you were PT and didn't know you were eligible to file.
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#8
"GOVERNMENT"
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 30, 2020, 01:08:11 PM
email
Waiting for mine then.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on April 30, 2020, 06:45:39 PM
I opened a Twitter account for updates on unemployment and the CARES Act

Tips, Tricks, and Updates Related to NY Unemployment and the CARES Act
https://twitter.com/ChaiCovid
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 30, 2020, 09:17:14 PM
I opened a Twitter account for updates on unemployment and the CARES Act

Tips, Tricks, and Updates Related to NY Unemployment and the CARES Act
https://twitter.com/ChaiCovid
Just to clarify - only NY not NJ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 30, 2020, 09:19:08 PM
For the weeks that included pesach, when certifying I wrote that there were 2 days that I was not "ready, willing, or able to work". They sent me a letter that they will deduct from my benefits. Anyone know if there's a way to get them not to deduct due to religious reasons or something?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 30, 2020, 09:20:55 PM
For the weeks that included pesach, when certifying I wrote that there were 2 days that I was not "ready, willing, or able to work". They sent me a letter that they will deduct from my benefits. Anyone know if there's a way to get them not to deduct due to religious reasons or something?
No idea but thumbs up for your honesty.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 30, 2020, 10:00:33 PM

i applied in nj around 3 weeks ago, and still show pending. every week i get an email explaining how to recertify every week. am i supposed to be answering those questions every week if i was never even approved yet?
I would reply. Atleast in NY it can take up to 3 weeks and once approved youll get a few worth

Cant reply to the email, and when attempting certifying at my correct time, it errors out and says i need to speak to an agent.
yes.
Source? Even if claim is still pending? Because the email i received (quoted below) sounds like thats the not the case.
Same in NJ.
Source? Even if claim is still pending? Because the email i received (quoted below) sounds like thats the not the case.

Quote from: AN EMAIL I JUST RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION I ASKED THEM
To get a status on your claim, please go to our website at https://myunemployment.nj.gov and select the ‘Check claim status here’ option.  Enter your information for the status of your claim.  Keep checking daily until your Claim Status shows ‘Filed’.  Once it’s in that status and shows your Weekly Benefit Rate (WBR), you may Certify for Weekly Benefits (which is the next option next to the one for checking your claim status).

- If your claim status is showing as "Pending," please continue to check until it is showing as "Filed".  Please check back regularly for an update to your status, but be aware that due to the unprecedented volume of claims filed, there may be a 2-3 week delay.

It would seeem like fom this email that you cant certify until your case transitions from pending to filed.

See this link https://myunemployment.nj.gov/help/contact-us/
Click on To send us an email

maybe try including your status bar that has the date in the screenshot.

These contact-us emails are all auto responses...

Thanks.
We actually got through on the phone to an office in NJ, though not the Ocean County one.
Hopefully, it'll all work out.
Try calling the Cumberland number.
We got through.
All the numbers end up on the same queue. I tried today at 8:45AM and they were already at max call volume for the day “please call back the next business day”.

PSA: i don’t know the legality of this advice, but the fact that you have to certify at a certain time, is really only like a “paywall”. If you make up the last 4 of the SSN to match the correct time slot, you will get into the actual certification window, and can then put in your correct info
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on April 30, 2020, 10:04:17 PM

PSA: i don’t know the legality of this advice, but the fact that you have to certify at a certain time, is really only like a “paywall”. If you make up the last 4 of the SSN to match the correct time slot, you will get into the actual certification window, and can then put in your correct info
I did this too, wasn't sure if I should post it...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on April 30, 2020, 10:06:13 PM
Shulem92 -
I can only tell you what worked for us.
The Cumberland number picked up while the others never worked out.
I believe you should re-certify every week even before your claim is "filed". You have nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 30, 2020, 10:08:51 PM

Cant reply to the email, and when attempting certifying at my correct time, it errors out and says i need to speak to an agent.Source? Even if claim is still pending? Because the email i received (quoted below) sounds like thats the not the case.Source? Even if claim is still pending? Because the email i received (quoted below) sounds like thats the not the case.

It would seeem like fom this email that you cant certify until your case transitions from pending to filed.

These contact-us emails are all auto responses...
All the numbers end up on the same queue. I tried today at 8:45AM and they were already at max call volume for the day “please call back the next business day”.

PSA: i don’t know the legality of this advice, but the fact that you have to certify at a certain time, is really only like a “paywall”. If you make up the last 4 of the SSN to match the correct time slot, you will get into the actual certification window, and can then put in your correct info
I'm not sure your question but I know that you need to certify your hours each week
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: nucheiner on April 30, 2020, 11:07:00 PM
No idea but thumbs up for your honesty.
This isn't honesty its incorrect. If your daughter was getting married that day, you are still "ready, willing, or able to work". In short regular circumstances which would have caused you to take a day off, not quit your job, should be ok. A litmus test would be if there exist an industry norm to receive pay for such days. I'm not a lawyer though.

This is like reporting to NJ Family care that you got a $20 tip. Yes the law REQUIRES you to and i'm sure the FBI can use this in the absence of a Mail Fraud charge. But this isn't the intent.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 30, 2020, 11:09:52 PM
This isn't honesty its incorrect. If your daughter was getting married that day, you are still "ready, willing, or able to work". In short regular circumstances which would have caused you to take a day off, not quit your job, should be ok. A litmus test would be if there exist an industry norm to receive pay for such days. I'm not a lawyer though.
Do you have a source for that?
I've heard of people who went to work the day their daughter got married. It's not the same as yom tov when halachically we are not allowed to work.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 30, 2020, 11:11:57 PM


It would seeem like fom this email that you cant certify until your case transitions from pending to filed.


your probably right. my went from pending to filed with $0 payable
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 30, 2020, 11:20:45 PM
your probably right. my went from pending to filed with $0 payable
Either way if they are backdating claims, do they have a system for you to certify for the prior weeks? Or do they just assume?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 30, 2020, 11:22:01 PM
Shulem92 -
I can only tell you what worked for us.
The Cumberland number picked up while the others never worked out.
I believe you should re-certify every week even before your claim is "filed". You have nothing to lose.
the system wont let me...

I'm not sure your question but I know that you need to certify your hours each week
my original question was if i have to certify every week if my claim is still pending. As per the email i received, and the fact that the system doesnt allow me to certify, i am assuming that i cant. I just wanted to verify if all those here who were saying i have to certify every week were talking in general, or specifically in my scenario where my claim is still pending as opposed to filed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 30, 2020, 11:23:13 PM
Either way if they are backdating claims, do they have a system for you to certify for the prior weeks? Or do they just assume?
i havent been able to succesfully certify since my application 3.5 weeks ago. If only i can get through to an agent to find out the answers to all these questions
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 30, 2020, 11:24:58 PM
the system wont let me...
my original question was if i have to certify every week if my claim is still pending. As per the email i received, and the fact that the system doesnt allow me to certify, i am assuming that i cant. I just wanted to verify if all those here who were saying i have to certify every week were talking in general, or specifically in my scenario where my claim is still pending as opposed to filed.
Got it. After your claim is approved you will claim back to the start date. You do not need to do it every week if you don't mind waiting for your check either.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 30, 2020, 11:29:41 PM
Got it. After your claim is approved you will claim back to the start date. You do not need to do it every week if you don't mind waiting for your check either.
Do you know if it's the same in NY?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on April 30, 2020, 11:32:15 PM
Do you know if it's the same in NY?
No clue. I only know because I helped my daughter.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on April 30, 2020, 11:32:31 PM
No clue. I only know because I helped my daughter.
Thanks anyways
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on April 30, 2020, 11:34:43 PM
Either way if they are backdating claims, do they have a system for you to certify for the prior weeks? Or do they just assume?
in NJ they are opening the new system tomorrow morning for PUA claims. see my post above.  hopefully many questions will be answered
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on April 30, 2020, 11:38:30 PM
Got it. After your claim is approved you will claim back to the start date. You do not need to do it every week if you don't mind waiting for your check either.
I wouldn’t mind the check already, but i have no way of certifying. BH our stimulus check came in the mail today.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on May 01, 2020, 02:01:13 AM
Do you know if it's the same in NY?

I certified for the past weeks when they called me to complete the application.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on May 01, 2020, 03:12:39 AM
Do you have a source for that?
I've heard of people who went to work the day their daughter got married. It's not the same as yom tov when halachically we are not allowed to work.
Do you deduct a day for Shabbos as well?


https://www.labor.ny.gov/formsdocs/ui/TC318.3e.pdf
Quote
Ready, willing and able: When filing for Unemployment Insurance benefits, you must be prepared to
take a job right away, even at a moment’s notice. You must also be able to work (not sick, hospitalized
or unable to get childcare). Every week, you must verify that you were ready, willing and able to work.


I'm no expert, but this is how I'm interpreting the below (based off your question):
Quote
Effective Day: Each day in a week (Monday through Sunday) that you qualify for benefits is called an
effective day. There is a maximum of four effective days each week, and you must qualify for all four
effective days in order to receive your total weekly benefit rate.
For each day in the week that you
are not eligible to receive benefits, you will receive one less effective day, which is equivalent to one
fourth of your weekly benefit rate. For example, if you are not available to work one day in a week, or
if you have worked any part of a day, or have received vacation or holiday pay for one day in a week,
your benefits will be reduced by one effective day (the same as one-quarter of your benefit rate). You
can receive a maximum of 104 effective days on your claim, which is equivalent to 26 full weeks (4
effective days per week x 26 weeks = 104 effective days).

Each week that included Pesach, there were 4 days that you were "available" to work, and would count those as your "effective" "ready, willing and able to work" days. The fact that there were also 3 days that you were not available (due to Shabbos and Yom Tov), should not make a difference, as you already reached the "max allowed effective days".

(https://content.screencast.com/users/Ben6955/folders/Jing/media/d54fbb7f-10ee-4485-9258-644bfefcf2b4/2020-05-01_0057.png)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 01, 2020, 09:23:30 AM
Got this email (in NJ). Is it legit? Just want to make sure before I give any personal info...

The application was submitted last night. The email is from newjerseyunemploymentbenefits-donotreply@dol.nj.gov. The link leads to adjudicate-newjerseyunemployment.force.com/.

Quote
This is an automatically generated email.  This inbox is not monitored and any emails received will not be responded to.

Our records indicate one or more unresolved issues on your unemployment claim, which must be addressed before any benefits can be paid to you. Your response to this fact-finding questionnaire constitutes your full statement to a claims examiner. It will be used to decide your eligibility for benefits. Provide complete and detailed information. Once you have submitted your questionnaire, you cannot make any changes to your statement.

It is possible you may receive multiple emails with a link to a questionnaire that must be filled out. Please follow the link for each email, and fill out all questionnaires sent to you.

Your form has not been submitted until you click the Submit button on the Certify & Submit page. You will receive a confirmation email upon successful submission of your completed form. If you do not receive an email, your form may not have been submitted properly and we will be unable to use your statement to make a determination on your eligibility for benefits.

A written decision will be mailed to your home address of record to notify you of the results of your fact-finding. If you do not submit the questionnaire by 5/11/2020, this link will become inactive and a decision may be made based on available information.

Click on the link below to answer a series of questions regarding the issue(s) identified on your claim:

Form Link: Claimant Form

You have the following rights when providing a statement via electronic questionnaire: 1) You may represent yourself or you may be represented at your own expense by an attorney or non-attorney, 2) You may request a postponement, if you require additional time to prepare your response to this questionnaire, 3) You may request that your employer produce any documents which relate to your eligibility for benefits, 4) You may request that statements be taken from your witnesses who have firsthand knowledge of the case, 5) You or your representative will have the opportunity to provide witness statements, present documents and provide a closing statement or summary, and 6) If the reason for the questionnaire is related to your employment, any questions that you may have for your former employer may be included on the form and the reviewing claims examiner may, at his/her discretion, pose the question(s) to your former employer.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 01, 2020, 09:26:29 AM
Do you deduct a day for Shabbos as well?


https://www.labor.ny.gov/formsdocs/ui/TC318.3e.pdf

I'm no expert, but this is how I'm interpreting the below (based off your question):
Each week that included Pesach, there were 4 days that you were "available" to work, and would count those as your "effective" "ready, willing and able to work" days. The fact that there were also 3 days that you were not available (due to Shabbos and Yom Tov), should not make a difference, as you already reached the "max allowed effective days".

(https://content.screencast.com/users/Ben6955/folders/Jing/media/d54fbb7f-10ee-4485-9258-644bfefcf2b4/2020-05-01_0057.png)
I can see how that makes sense, but they don't ask "How many days were you ready, willing and able to work" with choices 0-4, they ask "How many days were you NOT ready, willing and able to work".
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 01, 2020, 09:27:53 AM
Got this email (in NJ). Is it legit? Just want to make sure before I give any personal info...

The application was submitted last night. The email is from newjerseyunemploymentbenefits-donotreply@dol.nj.gov. The link leads to adjudicate-newjerseyunemployment.force.com/.
yes its correct.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 01, 2020, 09:29:10 AM
PSA

Self employed individuals should go to NJ unemployment and certify for the PUA claims. today is the first day. after today claims will only be processed at a later date
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 01, 2020, 09:34:30 AM
PSA

Self employed individuals should go to NJ unemployment and certify for the PUA claims. today is the first day. after today claims will only be processed at a later date
Is there a website link?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Pupashtetl on May 01, 2020, 10:11:34 AM
I was receiving PFL in New York until last week thursday, and then was laid off. How do I apply for UI, that I was working until last week, or that I stopped working before my baby was born?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 10:21:25 AM
I was receiving PFL in New York until last week thursday, and then was laid off. How do I apply for UI, that I was working until last week, or that I stopped working before my baby was born?
When you're on PFL, you're legally employed even though you're not working. (you cannot collect PFL if you've been laid off- even if you were laid off a day before).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on May 01, 2020, 10:27:16 AM
I can see how that makes sense, but they don't ask "How many days were you ready, willing and able to work" with choices 0-4, they ask "How many days were you NOT ready, willing and able to work".
Do you deduct a day for Shabbos as well?
If no, why not?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 10:30:09 AM
If no, why not?
The way I see it, there are 5 workdays in a week. Of those 5, you need to be ready, willing, and able to work for at least 4 to qualify for FT unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 01, 2020, 10:34:38 AM
If no, why not?
Because it's not part of the work week?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 01, 2020, 10:36:49 AM
Is there a website link?
read here
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/puainstructions.shtml
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 01, 2020, 10:44:40 AM
read here
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/puainstructions.shtml
Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 10:45:30 AM
PSA

Self employed individuals should go to NJ unemployment and certify for the PUA claims. today is the first day. after today claims will only be processed at a later date
Is this also if we already applied weeks ago, our claim shows filed $0 benefits, but we didn't receive a letter or email yet that our claim is payable?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 01, 2020, 11:45:46 AM
Is this also if we already applied weeks ago, our claim shows filed $0 benefits, but we didn't receive a letter or email yet that our claim is payable?
I don't think so. I'm in this boat too.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 01, 2020, 12:29:16 PM
Is this also if we already applied weeks ago, our claim shows filed $0 benefits, but we didn't receive a letter or email yet that our claim is payable?
I don't think so. I'm in this boat too.
yes and yes. if your claim status shows filed, and not pending.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 01, 2020, 12:38:29 PM
yes and yes. if your claim status shows filed, and not pending.
Not working for me, after I put in my pin it says "this claim cannot be processed" and that I should call.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Deal Guy on May 01, 2020, 12:40:26 PM
In nj, for a hourly worker that didn't work the past 4 weeks, and just found out that they won't be paid for the last 4 weeks, and will only apply for unemployment this week,  is there a way to get the NJ part for all 4 weeks? What about the federal 600?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 12:53:11 PM
In nj, for a hourly worker that didn't work the past 4 weeks, and just found out that they won't be paid for the last 4 weeks, and will only apply for unemployment this week,  is there a way to get the NJ part for all 4 weeks? What about the federal 600?
If you didn't work and didn't get paid put in that date of 4 weeks ago as your last day worked. They should backdate claims.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Deal Guy on May 01, 2020, 12:57:20 PM
You sure? For both nj portion and federal?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 01:05:56 PM
You sure? For both nj portion and federal?
Federal for claims from 03/28/20 through 7/31/20
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 01, 2020, 02:09:02 PM
If someone is self-employed, how does he fill out employer information? (NJ, on regular application).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 01, 2020, 02:17:49 PM
If someone is self-employed, how does he fill out employer information? (NJ, on regular application).
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/assets/pdfs/UI_process_selfemployed.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 01, 2020, 02:32:35 PM
If you didn't work and didn't get paid put in that date of 4 weeks ago as your last day worked. They should backdate claims.
In theory that is what the rules say but practically I don't think right now there is a way to get that. If anyone has been able to get that backdated in NJ please post. I assume that eventually you will be able to get it.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 01, 2020, 02:35:57 PM
DW started receiving unemployment . First payment on 4/24 and the 600 on 4/27. For the second week she got the regular amount on 4/29 but still no 600. Has anyone else had any experience with this in NJ? Should we be concerned?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 01, 2020, 02:58:07 PM
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/assets/pdfs/UI_process_selfemployed.pdf
Thanks! I did it wrong the first time - just redid it. Tizku L'mitzvos.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 01, 2020, 03:02:02 PM
How long does it take from when filing for self employment? Status says pending... 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on May 01, 2020, 03:11:38 PM
The way I see it, there are 5 workdays in a week. Of those 5, you need to be ready, willing, and able to work for at least 4 to qualify for FT unemployment.
Where do you get 5? The way they describe it, makes it sound like 4 workdays. Working any of the 4, makes you lose 25%.

With that logic, you can have 3 "off days" and still be "ready to work" for 4 effective days, and claim FT unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 01, 2020, 03:12:41 PM
For the weeks that included pesach, when certifying I wrote that there were 2 days that I was not "ready, willing, or able to work". They sent me a letter that they will deduct from my benefits. Anyone know if there's a way to get them not to deduct due to religious reasons or something?
Ended up sending a message on the website explaining which days I couldn't work due to Passover when Orthodox Jews don't work, and which four days I was available to work each of those 2 weeks. Will see what happens.

Thanks everyone for your help and advice!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 03:19:54 PM
Where do you get 5? The way they describe it, makes it sound like 4 workdays. Working any of the 4, makes you lose 25%.

With that logic, you can have 3 "off days" and still be "ready to work" for 4 effective days, and claim FT unemployment.
Correct.
What I'm saying is that you get one workday "off" day that you don't have to be ready, willing, and able, to work, and you can still qualify fully for UI.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 03:24:59 PM
How long does it take from when filing for self employment? Status says pending...
It took a month to switch from pending to filed.
But I believe things are moving quicker now.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 01, 2020, 03:26:42 PM
It took a month to switch from pending to filed.
But I believe things are moving quicker now.
Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 03:30:56 PM
State of NJ.
Someone receives a steady salary but also does two projects a year each one spanning a few months for about $2000, and all of it gets reported on one W2 form.
Now, due to Covid-19, the upcoming project was cancelled but the steady salary is continuing.
Would this person be eligible for -
1 - 60% of the project money?
2 - $600 weekly?
Can anyone knowledgeable (cgr or others) chime in on this?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 03:31:57 PM
yes and yes. if your claim status shows filed, and not pending.
How do you know this?
The site seems to indicate only if you've been confirmed to be paid and not just if your status is "filed".
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 01, 2020, 03:43:46 PM
How do you know this?
The site seems to indicate only if you've been confirmed to be paid and not just if your status is "filed".
Thats the email i got and i posted it upthread.  But now it seems like only for those that actually got the email.  Doesn't matter if scenario is the same
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 03:52:38 PM
State of NJ.
Someone receives a steady salary but also does two projects a year each one spanning a few months for about $2000, and all of it gets reported on one W2 form.
Now, due to Covid-19, the upcoming project was cancelled but the steady salary is continuing.
Would this person be eligible for -
1 - 60% of the project money?
2 - $600 weekly?
Can anyone knowledgeable (cgr or others) chime in on this?
Thank you.

1) If the $2000 is 20% of his income or more annually, he's definitely eligible. If it's not, I'm not sure how he'd make a case that he lost 20% of his wages.
Just as a side note, since he's W2 he'd go on regular UI, and his base rate will be determined by his base wages. No other calculations such as 60% of something or another. Also if he is eligible, he'll be allowed to earn 20% more than his base rate since he's partially employed.

2) Just to reiterate the basic rule- you're eligible for the $600 if you're eligible for some type of unemployment ($1 will do). Not eligible for unemployment in a given week= not eligible for the $600.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 04:11:29 PM
Thats the email i got and i posted it upthread.  But now it seems like only for those that actually got the email.  Doesn't matter if scenario is the same
We never got confirmation that we're getting benefits. I think we should wait.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 04:17:24 PM
1) If the $2000 is 20% of his income or more annually, he's definitely eligible. If it's not, I'm not sure how he'd make a case that he lost 20% of his wages.
Thank you.
I believe it's around 10% of his wages.
So that would mean he's not entitled to any unemployment benefits whatsoever?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 04:53:02 PM
Thank you.
I believe it's around 10% of his wages.
So that would mean he's not entitled to any unemployment benefits whatsoever?
Correct. In NJ you need a 20% wage and hour cut to qualify for partial UI.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Correct. In NJ you need a 20% wage and hour cut to qualify for partial UI.
Ok, thank you.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 05:01:38 PM
Ok, thank you.
Unless you can somehow figure out a way that this can be considered a 20% cut. I don't see how because they look at the first 4 quarters of the last 5 quarters to determine rate so I'm out of ideas...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 05:03:13 PM
they look at the first 4 quarters of the last 5 quarters
Sorry, but I didn't get that.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 01, 2020, 05:44:39 PM
Sorry, but I didn't get that.

Last 5 quarters are Q1 '19,  Q2 '19, Q3 '19, Q4 '19, and  Q1 '20. The first 4 quarters of that is  Q1 '19,  Q2 '19, Q3 '19, and Q4 '19.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 01, 2020, 05:49:00 PM
Last 5 quarters are Q1 '19,  Q2 '19, Q3 '19, Q4 '19, and  Q1 '20. The first 4 quarters of that is  Q1 '19,  Q2 '19, Q3 '19, and Q4 '19.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 01, 2020, 06:14:37 PM
SIDE BENEFIT FROM NY UI :-*

In late April 2020 we discovered an issue with mailings that may have affected you. A letter containing your personally identifiable information may have been inadvertently included in an envelope addressed to another person. Out of an abundance of caution and concern for the integrity of your personal and confidential information, this e-mail is to advise you of the issue and to inform you that the New York State Department of Labor will be providing you with free credit monitoring for one year. Early next week you will receive a letter from the Department of Labor with information on how to sign up for the free credit monitoring service.

 

If you do not receive this letter next week please contact the Department of Labor at creditmonitoring@labor.ny.gov and we will get back to you as soon as possible
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 02, 2020, 09:35:10 PM
https://www.businessinsider.com/at-least-200-unemployed-new-yorkers-had-personal-information-leaked-2020-5
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 02, 2020, 09:39:11 PM
Correct. In NJ you need a 20% wage and hour cut to qualify for partial UI.
Does anyone know if the 20% is based on current income or that convoluted 4/5 recent quarters time period?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 02, 2020, 09:45:43 PM
https://www.businessinsider.com/at-least-200-unemployed-new-yorkers-had-personal-information-leaked-2020-5
Only 200?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 02, 2020, 09:50:09 PM
Only 200?
"at least 200"
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 02, 2020, 09:58:37 PM
Does anyone know if the 20% is based on current income or that convoluted 4/5 recent quarters time period?
Thanks.

Just reread the rules and looks like 20% is for hours only. No mention of wages needing to be reduced.
Note that for you to receive a payment it must be less than your PWBR (partial benefit rate) so technically that means that your wages must be reduced by 20%- otherwise you're earning more than PWBR. (WBR is 60% of wages, PWBR is that plus 20% for a total of 80% of wages roughly)
The only scenario I see where you could be eligible with no pay cut is if you have a new job where pay is 20% less and you were employed somewhere else for 20% more in the first 4 of the last 5 quarters.

Anyone familiar with NJ want can confirm?
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/before/about/calculator/

@ae123 this might be useful to you too- although the actual rule seems to be different than I thought, the qualification to get payment seems to be the same so not sure it makes a difference.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: meilich on May 02, 2020, 10:04:05 PM
For a self employed that was approved for unemployment would applying now for an eidl loan (not ppp) affect my unemployment benefits?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 02, 2020, 10:07:54 PM
@ae123 this might be useful to you too- although the actual rule seems to be different than I thought, the qualification to get payment seems to be the same so not sure it makes a difference.
Thank you.
Still not sure if I should apply or not.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 02, 2020, 10:13:29 PM
I have a question, I hope someone here can help.

I filed a claim a week ago in NJ, being self-employed with a drop in income. I made a mistake on the application, checking off "not employed", as I didn't see an option for self-employed. On Friday, I found out how to properly fill out the application (thanks DDF) and I filed a new claim with the correct info.


My first claim was denied. Should I file an appeal on my first claim (saying that I made a mistake on the application), or will my second application kick in and supersede the first one?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Deal Guy on May 02, 2020, 10:48:09 PM
https://lwdwebpt.dol.state.nj.us/claimstatus-docs/What%20does%20your%20claim%20status%20mean.docx.pdf

*If your claim status is "filed" and there is a dollar amount in the WBR field, you should certify
for benefits according to the posted schedule on myunemployment.nj.gov.
*If your claim status is "filed" and there is a zero in the WBR field, more wage information is
needed to process your claim. Please check your Inbox for an email from e-Adjudication or for
an appointment for a telephone interview in the mail to request more information.
*If your claim status is "pending", additional information or a claims agent's review is needed to
process your claim. Please check your Inbox for an email from e-Adjudication or for an
appointment for a telephone interview in the mail to request more information.
*If your claim status is blank, we do not have a claim on record for you at this time. Please visit
myunemployment.nj.gov to file a claim.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 02, 2020, 11:49:49 PM
For a self employed that was approved for unemployment would applying now for an eidl loan (not ppp) affect my unemployment benefits?

@meilich

I do not believe EIDL is accepting applications. You're in NY and were approved for PUA? What payments did you already get if any, and when did you apply?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 03, 2020, 12:11:28 AM
I was pending filled out the e adjudication and am still pending a month later. I am in NJ and can’t reach anyone , what do I do?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 03, 2020, 10:44:37 AM
Just reread the rules and looks like 20% is for hours only. No mention of wages needing to be reduced.
Note that for you to receive a payment it must be less than your PWBR (partial benefit rate) so technically that means that your wages must be reduced by 20%- otherwise you're earning more than PWBR. (WBR is 60% of wages, PWBR is that plus 20% for a total of 80% of wages roughly)
The only scenario I see where you could be eligible with no pay cut is if you have a new job where pay is 20% less and you were employed somewhere else for 20% more in the first 4 of the last 5 quarters.

Anyone familiar with NJ want can confirm?
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/before/about/calculator/ (https://myunemployment.nj.gov/before/about/calculator/)

@ae123 this might be useful to you too- although the actual rule seems to be different than I thought, the qualification to get payment seems to be the same so not sure it makes a difference.
Thanks. Does anyone else know definitively?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 03, 2020, 10:52:33 AM
I was pending filled out the e adjudication and am still pending a month later. I am in NJ and can’t reach anyone , what do I do?
Mine is longer pending - it says filed, but we still have not received anything and it's been over a month.
When we re-certified today we got an email that our claim is not payable.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 12:22:41 PM
I've been doing some more research on housing allowance/parsonage.
NY asks for "net income" to determine PUA. No clear guidance on what to include.

Based on other states requirements, I'm advising to calculate and provide documentation for the following (don't add in losses to your total. Those count as 0)
1040 Return-  Line 7b
Schedule C-  Line 31
Schedule E-  Line 32

In other words- if it carries through to your personal return on one of these Schedules, you should include. If you receive a determination and they tell you that they specifically excluded one of these from your calculation, please let me know.

My mistake- it's just 1040 Return-  Line 7b. The others already flow through to this line. (not sure why some states are telling you to put in all 3...)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 03, 2020, 12:25:49 PM
Mine is longer pending - it says filed, but we still have not received anything and it's been over a month.
When we re-certified today we got an email that our claim is not payable.
Does it show a dollar amount by the benefit amount?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 03, 2020, 12:27:39 PM
Anyone know how to request backpay in NJ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 03, 2020, 12:36:35 PM
Does it show a dollar amount by the benefit amount?
I filed as self employed before the new rules came out, was pending for a while, then it switched to filed and $0 amount. Got a letter in the mail yesterday saying to claim weekly benefits, but I never received an email asking for wage information. What to do? File again following PUA instructions? @Mordyk
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 12:44:48 PM
Anyone know how to request backpay in NJ?
Just as an FYI even though some states have systems set up for backpay and some don't, I don't know of a single state that has yet to process backpay requests.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrumy on May 03, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
I received a letter from NJ UI for a appointment via  phone call, however all the information was blank.  Anyone else have this?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 03, 2020, 12:50:11 PM
Does it show a dollar amount by the benefit amount?
It shows $0.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zevi on May 03, 2020, 01:11:49 PM
I received a letter from NJ UI for a appointment via  phone call, however all the information was blank.  Anyone else have this?
Yes same thing.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 03, 2020, 01:12:19 PM
I received a letter from NJ UI for a appointment via  phone call, however all the information was blank.  Anyone else have this?
Yes
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: nucheiner on May 03, 2020, 01:29:13 PM
Yes
Read the letter again. It may just be the standard notice which is formatted to include appointment info. If no appointment is necessary it will be blank and just serves to confirm that you filed. That's how I understood it, dunno forsure.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 03, 2020, 01:31:30 PM
In NY, applied 4/6 (30 days ago/4 wks), message of "pending" hasn't changed since; a/o else same? Or is typical experience in NY to get a response or payout after 3 wks?
Not sure how much longer I can make do w/o these funds...
 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 03, 2020, 01:44:16 PM
I filed as self employed before the new rules came out, was pending for a while, then it switched to filed and $0 amount. Got a letter in the mail yesterday saying to claim weekly benefits, but I never received an email asking for wage information. What to do? File again following PUA instructions? @Mordyk
I had the same and just claimed weekly benefits when they let me. And last week the dollar amount changed by benefit amount. After i certified i got another email E-adjudication (ors something like that) and over there i was able to put in how much money o currently make as self employed.  Thats it. And when they ask to upload any documents i always upload 2019 schedule C. Which that is supposed to be the number they base it on

I received a letter from NJ UI for a appointment via  phone call, however all the information was blank.  Anyone else have this?
I think everyone did
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 01:47:30 PM
i always upload 2019 schedule C. Which that is supposed to be the number they base it on
I think everyone did
Why not go for 1040 Return-  Line 7b?
If you had minimal W2 income (low enough that you don't qualify for standard UI), and/or had business income from multiple sources, shouldn't all be part of net income?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 01:49:19 PM
Why not go for 1040 Return-  Line 7b?
If you had minimal W2 income (low enough that you don't qualify for standard UI), and/or had business income from multiple sources, shouldn't all be part of net income?
I'm seeing a lot of room here to play around with your PUA rate, since the state hasn't released official rules of what can/can't be included.
I can see an argument for using Schedule C line 31 or 1040 Return line 7b. With no official guidelines I guess you can pick and choose based on what's highest.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 03, 2020, 01:57:32 PM
I'm seeing a lot of room here to play around with your PUA rate, since the state hasn't released official rules of what can/can't be included.
I can see an argument for using Schedule C line 31 or 1040 Return line 7b. With no official guidelines I guess you can pick and choose based on what's highest.
Married filing jointly?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 03, 2020, 01:58:15 PM
I had the same and just claimed weekly benefits when they let me. And last week the dollar amount changed by benefit amount. After i certified i got another email E-adjudication (ors something like that) and over there i was able to put in how much money o currently make as self employed.  Thats it. And when they ask to upload any documents i always upload 2019 schedule C. Which that is supposed to be the number they base it on
I think everyone did
Thanks for sharing! Did they send you any money?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 03, 2020, 01:59:32 PM
Why not go for 1040 Return-  Line 7b?
If you had minimal W2 income (low enough that you don't qualify for standard UI), and/or had business income from multiple sources, shouldn't all be part of net income?
Thanks for the insight.  7b is about 20% higher.  But might be because married filed jointly. So i will definitely discuss it if i actually get the call that they are supposed to call me in May 6th.  Meanwhile im supposed to get benefits paid on the 5th. So they might not call me.  I guess time will tell

Thanks for sharing! Did they send you any money?
See above
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 02:03:32 PM
Married filing jointly?
Not sure how to get around that one yet... maybe take everything that flows through to 7b for the spouse filing and submit the total of that?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 03, 2020, 02:06:39 PM
Not sure how to get around that one yet... maybe take everything that flows through to 7b for the spouse filing and submit the total of that?
Do you think this is what we’re supposed to be doing? I imagine there will be a lot of scrutiny after all is said and done on this period of time and want to make sure I’m doing everything that’s easily legally defensible
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 03, 2020, 02:09:44 PM
Anyone know how to request backpay in NJ?
Till covid you were not eligible for backpay on unemployment in NJ. You were only able to get from the week you actually filed. Hence the online system is not set up to process backpay. I assume a live agent might be able to help you but it is impossible to get thru to one. I assume eventually we will get the money but i'm not counting on getting it till this all settles down.

The LRRC in their q&a about unemployment did not have any clear info either.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 03, 2020, 02:11:14 PM
Till covid you were not eligible for backpay on unemployment in NJ. You were only able to get from the week you actually filed.
Same in NY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 02:17:20 PM
Do you think this is what we’re supposed to be doing? I imagine there will be a lot of scrutiny after all is said and done on this period of time and want to make sure I’m doing everything that’s easily legally defensible
They haven't released exact guidelines so obviously we don't know and gotta do our best...
If you put in 1 employer with an employer name and EIN, you should probably only claim the Schedule C of that company.
If you're an independent contractor and you put in your name and SS as your employer, there's a lot more room as to what could potentially be included.
Same goes if you put in 2 employers- company and yourself.

There's a lot of gray here which isn't clearly defined. If you're worried, Schedule C is obviously the simplest way to go, but is that both the most correct and to your greatest benefit? If you're legally allowed to go with all income, why should you cut it down?
Lots of questions- very few answers.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 02:20:32 PM
Same in NY
Not sure about exact NJ rules, but in NY you were able to claim backpay before the pandemic.

You were able to put in a past date as your last date of employment on your application. If you had good reason as to why you were filing late you could request backpay.
If you missed claiming some weeks while on UI you could also request to retroactively claim with a reason.
They have a section in the message center dedicated to backdating claims and requesting pay retroactively.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 03, 2020, 02:22:52 PM
Not sure about exact NJ rules, but in NY you were able to claim backpay before the pandemic.

You were able to put in a past date as your last date of employment on your application. If you had good reason as to why you were filing late you could request backpay.
If you missed claiming some weeks while on UI you could also request to retroactively claim with a reason.
They have a section in the message center dedicated to backdating claims and requesting pay retroactively.
I hear (though the website said that your claim is only valid starting the beginning of the week that you file, I guess they had a system for exceptions).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 03, 2020, 03:54:13 PM
I have been pending in NJ for 3 weeks after filling e adjudication .
I have tried reaching out to many people and no help
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 06:51:05 PM
Anyone here receiving PUA payments (not just certifying- actually getting paid) in NY?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 03, 2020, 06:52:26 PM
I got an email that my claim is complete and I will get a letter saying how much $ I will get. (NY)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 03, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
I got an email that my claim is complete and I will get a letter saying how much $ I will get. (NY)
How long ago did you apply?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 03, 2020, 06:54:52 PM
I got an email that my claim is complete and I will get a letter saying how much $ I will get. (NY)
did they call you back after you filed?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 06:56:15 PM
I got an email that my claim is complete and I will get a letter saying how much $ I will get. (NY)

Btw your online portal will probably be updated before your Benefits Determination makes it to your mailbox.
Check Unemployment Services> Payment History. The top summary portion has your benefit rate, days left, etc.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on May 03, 2020, 07:00:36 PM
Just as an FYI even though some states have systems set up for backpay and some don't, I don't know of a single state that has yet to process backpay requests.

In NY they asked for the last day I worked and once it went through paid me from that date.

They did include a "waiting week" of $0 which was supposed to be waived, and I'm hoping to get them to fix it
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 03, 2020, 07:02:26 PM
did they call you back after you filed?
No, my claim was complete without speaking to them over the phone
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 03, 2020, 07:02:48 PM
Btw your online portal will probably be updated before your Benefits Determination makes it to your mailbox.
Check Unemployment Services> Payment History. The top summary portion has your benefit rate, days left, etc.
I've been checking that daily, all it shows is $0 for the waiting period, and the rate which they already mailed me (and does not include the $600).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 07:05:01 PM
In NY they asked for the last day I worked and once it went through paid me from that date.

They did include a "waiting week" of $0 which was supposed to be waived, and I'm hoping to get them to fix it

Wow! Good for you!
Know of a few where it took 3-4 weeks for the DOL to process their applications, and they've only received payment for the weeks they certified after their application was approved.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 07:08:12 PM
I've been checking that daily, all it shows is $0 for the waiting period, and the rate which they already mailed me (and does not include the $600).

The $0 for the waiting period is supposed to be waived. Don't think they got around to doing that yet.

Correct, your benefit rate does not include the $600, only the amount determined by the state. When you start getting the $600 payment you'll see a 0 in the "Effective Days" column, as the $600 does not deduct from your days/benefit rate.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 03, 2020, 07:20:26 PM
The $0 for the waiting period is supposed to be waived. Don't think they got around to doing that yet.

Correct, your benefit rate does not include the $600, only the amount determined by the state. When you start getting the $600 payment you'll see a 0 in the "Effective Days" column, as the $600 does not deduct from your days/benefit rate.
Yep, I sent them a message about that so I guess we'll see when they figure it out! I know someone else who filed a couple weeks before me, and they modified his start of unemployment date to be a week earlier than he wrote, to cancel out the waiting week.

Maybe eventually they'll have a better system for that :)

They didn't backdate my claim yet either FWIW.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: een on May 03, 2020, 07:25:19 PM
Got it. After your claim is approved you will claim back to the start date. You do not need to do it every week if you don't mind waiting for your check either.
Is this true in New Jersey, I missed last week's slot and my slot over the weekend and am now scared I forfeited my unemployment for the week
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 07:25:49 PM
Anyone here receiving PUA payments (not just certifying- actually getting paid) in NY?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/24/states-paying-unemployment-to-gig-workers-self-employed-americans.html

According to this NY started paying out PUA claims on 4/29.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 07:29:58 PM
I know someone else who filed a couple weeks before me, and they modified his start of unemployment date to be a week earlier than he wrote, to cancel out the waiting week.

Assuming they automate the system eventually, I'm wondering if he'll get an additional payment for what is now his waiting week (when he was technically still employed). Also if that waiting week is 3/30 or after, he might get additional $600 as well ;).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 03, 2020, 07:31:41 PM
Is this true in New Jersey, I missed last week's slot and my slot over the weekend and am now scared I forfeited my unemployment for the week

There were some posts upthread about the NJ filing system. I think the bottom line is that you can still certify, but your payment will be delayed.
@Mordyk ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 03, 2020, 07:34:32 PM
Assuming they automate the system eventually, I'm wondering if he'll get an additional payment for what is now his waiting week (when he was technically still employed). Also if that waiting week is 3/30 or after, he might get additional $600 as well ;).
Who knows! :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on May 03, 2020, 07:35:11 PM
Is this true in New Jersey, I missed last week's slot and my slot over the weekend and am now scared I forfeited my unemployment for the week
I am referring to NJ. You will get paid once you certify. It will need to be during your window, although someone posted a way through upthread
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: zh cohen on May 03, 2020, 07:36:05 PM
Wow! Good for you!
Know of a few where it took 3-4 weeks for the DOL to process their applications, and they've only received payment for the weeks they certified after their application was approved.

When I got a callback, I certified over the phone for those weeks that had passed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 03, 2020, 07:46:13 PM
Is this true in New Jersey, I missed last week's slot and my slot over the weekend and am now scared I forfeited my unemployment for the week

I missed a week and the next week was first prompted to certify for the missed week, and then got a prompt box asking if I wanted to certify for another week. [nj]
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: een on May 03, 2020, 07:47:28 PM
I missed a week and the next week was first prompted to certify for the missed week, and then got a prompt box asking if I wanted to certify for another week. [nj]
Thanks I just want to clarify the missed week wasn't your first week that you certified, correct?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 03, 2020, 07:55:48 PM
There were some posts upthread about the NJ filing system. I think the bottom line is that you can still certify, but your payment will be delayed.
@Mordyk ?
Thats what it seems so.  But they made me redo each certification on friday...   

But since everything is so messed up now i think people should calm down and understand that they will get every penny that comes to them under this program.   It might be a bit delayed until you can speak to someone but nobody is being short changed.
Governor tweeted this a few times
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 03, 2020, 08:56:55 PM
How do I backfile for 2 weeks unemployment if I was already rehired in my?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 04, 2020, 12:18:45 AM
nj. finally went from pending to filed after 4 weeks. filed on april 5th.
online i get this now:
Claim Status: Filed
Date of Claim: 04/05/2020
Weekly Benefit Rate: $xxx
Remaining Balance: $xxx
Next Payable Week: 05/02/2020
Last Week Paid: 04/25/2020
Last Paid Amount: $xxx

what is the process now? i didn't get any money yet, and how do i get my money for the last 4 weeks.
why does it say last week paid was 4/25 when i didnt get anything yet?
FTR i didnt receive any emails yet or physical mail
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 04, 2020, 12:21:14 AM
nj. finally went from pending to filed after 4 weeks. filed on april 5th.
online i get this now:
Claim Status: Filed
Date of Claim: 04/05/2020
Weekly Benefit Rate: $xxx
Remaining Balance: $xxx
Next Payable Week: 05/02/2020
Last Week Paid: 04/25/2020
Last Paid Amount: $xxx

what is the process now? i didn't get any money yet, and how do i get my money for the last 4 weeks.
why does it say last week paid was 4/25 when i didnt get anything yet?
FTR i didnt receive any emails yet or physical mail
Did you "certify for weekly benefits"?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 04, 2020, 12:26:43 AM
Did you "certify for weekly benefits"?
couldnt certify yet. im assuming because my case was still pending. i will report back on nwednesday bln if i am successful in certifying then
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 04, 2020, 12:27:37 AM
couldnt certify yet. im assuming because my case was still pending. i will report back on nwednesday bln if i am successful in certifying then
How would you get paid before certifying benefits?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 04, 2020, 12:28:23 AM
Maybe that's what's stopping the $ from reaching the account?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 04, 2020, 12:30:05 AM
How would you get paid before certifying benefits?
fwiu certification is a weekly thing so they can ensure you are still unemployed. that shouldnt stop me from getting $ for the time when i applied.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 04, 2020, 12:33:16 AM
fwiu certification is a weekly thing so they can ensure you are still unemployed. that shouldnt stop me from getting $ for the time when i applied.
You'll need to certify for all the weeks in between. Otherwise they don't know what your status was for those weeks and if you're eligible for payment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 04, 2020, 12:36:55 AM
You'll need to certify for all the weeks in between. Otherwise they don't know what your status was for those weeks and if you're eligible for payment.
thank you
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 04, 2020, 09:14:09 AM
I have a question, I hope someone here can help.

I filed a claim a week ago in NJ, being self-employed with a drop in income. I made a mistake on the application, checking off "not employed", as I didn't see an option for self-employed. On Friday, I found out how to properly fill out the application (thanks DDF) and I filed a new claim with the correct info.


My first claim was denied. Should I file an appeal on my first claim (saying that I made a mistake on the application), or will my second application kick in and supersede the first one?
BUMP
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 04, 2020, 09:17:15 AM
BUMP
I would check and see the status of the second claim.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 04, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
I would check and see the status of the second claim.
Thank you. I guess I'll wait it out.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 04, 2020, 09:54:53 AM
NJ Why did they not ask for how much money I make for 2/3 people I helped filing?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 04, 2020, 09:56:39 AM
NJ Why did they not ask for how much money I make for 2/3 people I helped filing?
In NY they get it from your last tax return, and send you a letter explaining how they calculated it and that if it's supposed to be different you should let them know.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 04, 2020, 10:42:42 AM
In NY they get it from your last tax return, and send you a letter explaining how they calculated it and that if it's supposed to be different you should let them know.
I believe in NJ it's the same.
Or possibly when they finally change your status from Filed to Payable they will ask for more info.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: meezewho1122 on May 04, 2020, 10:54:49 AM
Can anyone pls explain for NY:

There's a waiting period of a week that says $0.
Do i need to get paid for that week? Do they waive it?
How do I get paid for the waiting period that says $0 ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: sruly on May 04, 2020, 11:01:18 AM
https://www.homeunemployed.com/
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 04, 2020, 11:07:53 AM
Can anyone pls explain for NY:

There's a waiting period of a week that says $0.
Do i need to get paid for that week? Do they waive it?
How do I get paid for the waiting period that says $0 ?
It's waived so they should pay you. You can request from your message center but overall they haven't paid out those yet.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 04, 2020, 11:20:44 AM
nj. finally went from pending to filed after 4 weeks. filed on april 5th.
online i get this now:
Claim Status: Filed
Date of Claim: 04/05/2020
Weekly Benefit Rate: $xxx
Remaining Balance: $xxx
Next Payable Week: 05/02/2020
Last Week Paid: 04/25/2020
Last Paid Amount: $xxx

what is the process now? i didn't get any money yet, and how do i get my money for the last 4 weeks.
why does it say last week paid was 4/25 when i didnt get anything yet?
FTR i didnt receive any emails yet or physical mail

didnt certify anything yet, but got a DD for $1800 today. assuming thats for the last 3 weeks. i guess theyre not backdating automatically? because i filed on 4/5 but was laid off 3/16
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 04, 2020, 11:29:56 AM
didnt certify anything yet, but got a DD for $1800 today. assuming thats for the last 3 weeks. i guess theyre not backdating automatically? because i filed on 4/5 but was laid off 3/16

Check your account to see what it's for.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 04, 2020, 11:34:43 AM
Check your account to see what it's for.
doesnt say. unless im looking in the wrong place?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 04, 2020, 11:35:39 AM
Just received debit card in the mail even though I requested DD
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 04, 2020, 11:37:30 AM
Just received debit card in the mail even though I requested DD
I know someone that happened too, the next week he got DD. I guess it took time to verify the bank account.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 04, 2020, 01:38:09 PM
DW got $600 DD today (in NJ). Filed two weeks ago, got first regular UI last week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 04, 2020, 01:38:33 PM
Just received debit card in the mail even though I requested DD

NY or NJ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 04, 2020, 01:39:58 PM
didnt certify anything yet, but got a DD for $1800 today. assuming thats for the last 3 weeks. i guess theyre not backdating automatically? because i filed on 4/5 but was laid off 3/16
Sounds like you’ve only been getting the extra $600, not the regular State part of the unemployment, and that’s only applicable from the week ending 4/5 and on
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 04, 2020, 01:44:39 PM
NY or NJ?
NJ
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 04, 2020, 03:13:31 PM
Is there a minimum amount of, money, or months, of prior earnings to be eligible to file for PUA?
If I made $1000 the last 6 months before COVID, am I eligible?
If I made $1000 the last 2 months before COVID, am I eligible?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 04, 2020, 03:38:39 PM
Is there a minimum amount of, money, or months, of prior earnings to be eligible to file for PUA?
If I made $1000 the last 6 months before COVID, am I eligible?
If I made $1000 the last 2 months before COVID, am I eligible?
Normally, states have minimum income requirements for UI. CARES Act clearly states that anyone not meeting those requirements is eligible for PUA. I'm not sure what that means- what if I earned $10 am I eligible?
Regardless, they don't penalize you for applying for UI so you can always try.

Here's the official text if you're interested in the legalities:
https://wdr.doleta.gov/directives/attach/UIPL/UIPL_16-20_acc.pdf
The PUA WBA is equal to the WBA authorized under state UC law where the individual was employed. In no case will the amount be less than the minimum WBA described in 20 C.F.R 625.6. For individuals without reported wages sufficient to establish a WBA, the WBA will be calculated according to processes for DUA benefits set out in 20 C.F.R. 625.6.

Now for 20 C.F.R. 625.6:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/20/625.6#b
If the weekly amount computed under paragraph (a) of this section is less than 50 percent of the average weekly payment of regular compensation in the State, as provided quarterly by the Department, or, if the individual has insufficient wages from employment or insufficient or no net income from self-employment (which includes individuals falling within paragraphs (a)(3) and (b)(3) of § 625.5) in the applicable base period to compute a weekly amount under paragraph (a) of this section, the individual shall be determined entitled to a weekly amount equal to 50 percent of the average weekly payment of regular compensation in the State.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 04, 2020, 05:40:32 PM
Where do I find the state employer payroll number (NJ)?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 04, 2020, 05:42:46 PM
Where do I find the state employer payroll number (NJ)?
Are you self employed?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 04, 2020, 05:44:40 PM
Are you self employed?
Asking for someone on a W2.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 04, 2020, 05:46:21 PM
Still need it?
Thank you!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yitzf on May 04, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
One of the eligible scenarios for PUA is:
"Individual is primary caregiver for child or family member unable to attend school or another facility closed due to COVID-19"

How does that interplay with FFCRA (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave)? (Paid family leave at 60% and the employer gets tax credits for the amount)
Quote from: https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/COVID-19-Government-Help-Updated-4-24-20.pdf
"18. I am unable to work because I must be home to watch my children. What assistance is available?
The federal government created a program to help employers continue to pay their employees during COVID-19 through the Families First Coronavirus Response Act (FFCRA).

If someone is the primary caregiver of kids out of school, can you choose which program to use?
Can you just file for unemployment and get the additional $600?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 04, 2020, 07:07:10 PM
Where do I find the state employer payroll number (NJ)?
It's on the w-2
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 04, 2020, 07:08:31 PM
One of the eligible scenarios for PUA is:
"Individual is primary caregiver for child or family member unable to attend school or another facility closed due to COVID-19"

How does that interplay with FFCRA (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave)? (Paid family leave at 60% and the employer gets tax credits for the amount)
If someone is the primary caregiver of kids out of school, can you choose which program to use?
Can you just file for unemployment and get the additional $600?

Thanks!
Why can't you pick?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 04, 2020, 07:15:09 PM
One of the eligible scenarios for PUA is:
"Individual is primary caregiver for child or family member unable to attend school or another facility closed due to COVID-19"

How does that interplay with FFCRA (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave)? (Paid family leave at 60% and the employer gets tax credits for the amount)
If someone is the primary caregiver of kids out of school, can you choose which program to use?
Can you just file for unemployment and get the additional $600?

Thanks!

Someone upthread mentioned going on PUA in order to be able to collect UI due to caring for kids at home, but right now it doesn't look like the states have a mechanism of putting individuals who are eligible for standard UI on PUA.
If you're eligible for standard UI that's the program they have to put you on, and if you're on standard UI you're not eligible to stay home and care for kids so it's a bit of a conundrum.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yitzf on May 04, 2020, 07:24:45 PM
Someone upthread mentioned going on PUA in order to be able to collect UI due to caring for kids at home, but right now it doesn't look like the states have a mechanism of putting individuals who are eligible for standard UI on PUA.
If you're eligible for standard UI that's the program they have to put you on, and if you're on standard UI you're not eligible to stay home and care for kids so it's a bit of a conundrum.

Do you mean aren't?

They are fully employed now. Can they quit and get unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 04, 2020, 07:30:25 PM
Do you mean aren't?

They are fully employed now. Can they quit and get unemployment?

No, I mean are.
If you're W2, you're eligible for standard UI. If you're eligible for standard UI they don't have a way to put you on PUA so that you can certify even when staying home because of lack of childcare.

If you're on PUA to begin with this is obviously not an issue and you can stay home to care for your kids.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 05, 2020, 08:04:21 AM
Thanks for the insight.  7b is about 20% higher.  But might be because married filed jointly. So i will definitely discuss it if i actually get the call that they are supposed to call me in May 6th.  Meanwhile im supposed to get benefits paid on the 5th. So they might not call me.  I guess time will tell
See above
Update: no money on the 5th.  I guess the email straight out lied which is quite disappointing.   Now lets see if i get the scheduled call tomorrow morning
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 05, 2020, 09:39:46 AM
How are UI benefits calculated? Just checked my current benefit amount and it's reflecting just over 40% my usual monthly pay check (didn't hit max receivable amount )
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 05, 2020, 09:57:35 AM
How are UI benefits calculated? Just checked my current benefit amount and it's reflecting just over 40% my usual monthly pay check (didn't hit max receivable amount )
Benefit amounts are weekly, based on a percentage of your income up to a max.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 05, 2020, 09:59:44 AM
Benefit amounts are weekly, based on a percentage of your income up to a max.
  right,was under the impression that there's a fixed percentage amount, trying to figure that out
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 05, 2020, 10:00:08 AM
  right,was under the impression that there's a fixed percentage amount, trying to figure that out
What state?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 05, 2020, 10:04:57 AM
Anyone self-employed in NJ who received benefits yet?
We applied March 29 and still haven't received anything.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 05, 2020, 10:10:08 AM
What state?
ny
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 05, 2020, 10:11:33 AM
ny
I believe it's 50%
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on May 05, 2020, 10:12:40 AM
When certifying a partial unemployment claim in NJ you have to reassert/reopen the claim. Last week, it let me do it, this week it's saying I have an open claim already.


Anyone else encounter this yet?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 05, 2020, 10:13:18 AM
ny
https://labor.ny.gov/benefit-rate-calculator/
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 05, 2020, 10:15:54 AM
https://labor.ny.gov/benefit-rate-calculator/
yup had used it and showed same rate I'm receiving,so I guess there's no fixed percentage? I'm seeing different percentage amounts reported
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 05, 2020, 10:23:39 AM
yup had used it and showed same rate I'm receiving,so I guess there's no fixed percentage? I'm seeing different percentage amounts reported

It's officially 46% but it depends on a few things so it's not a perfect rule.
https://www.labor.ny.gov/formsdocs/factsheets/pdfs/p832.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 05, 2020, 10:48:34 AM
It's officially 46% but it depends on a few things so it's not a perfect rule.
https://www.labor.ny.gov/formsdocs/factsheets/pdfs/p832.pdf
thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: nucheiner on May 05, 2020, 01:06:47 PM
When certifying a partial unemployment claim in NJ you have to reassert/reopen the claim. Last week, it let me do it, this week it's saying I have an open claim already.


Anyone else encounter this yet?
Were you ever actually required to REOPEN/REASSERT the claim or just to recertify? Try just recertifying as they don't seem to actually require reasserting for PUI despite the FAQs stating so.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 4yourinfo on May 05, 2020, 01:13:57 PM
Anyone have luck contacting someone in NJ? I need to backdate a claim...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 06, 2020, 10:07:19 AM
How do I file for unemployment in NY  for the previous  3 weeks, when I'm re-hired already?

I know you can open a ticket to get them to backdate the claim. but now when I'm filing it seems to ask if I have a job currently 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 06, 2020, 10:21:34 AM
Here is a petition to sign for the unemployment disaster in NJ.
https://www.change.org/p/nj-unemployment-disaster
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on May 06, 2020, 10:50:55 AM
Were you ever actually required to REOPEN/REASSERT the claim or just to recertify? Try just recertifying as they don't seem to actually require reasserting for PUI despite the FAQs stating so.
The first week it allowed me to reopen/reassert the claim. The second week it didn't. I would have to wait to next week to find out if it allows me to recertify, but I don't want there to be any issues if their FAQs are right.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 06, 2020, 11:07:42 AM
NY
 I Applied online waited a week,called my assemblyman to expedite a call back from DOL(as was mentioned upthread), they called me back a week later and was able to back date my claim successfully (online dd shows for all weeks claimed)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 06, 2020, 11:26:28 AM
NY
 I Applied online waited a week,called my assemblyman to expedite a call back from DOL(as was mentioned upthread), they called me back a week later and was able to back date my claim successfully (online dd shows for all weeks claimed)

Did you manage to get reps direct extension?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 06, 2020, 11:29:30 AM
NY
 I Applied online waited a week,called my assemblyman to expedite a call back from DOL(as was mentioned upthread), they called me back a week later and was able to back date my claim successfully (online dd shows for all weeks claimed)

... So you already rec'd funds? Looking for DP from people in NY who've already started to get deposits. Filed 4/6 for UI as of 3/23 and have yet to hear from anyone or get anything. Really discouraged, will try calling assemblyman, ty!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 06, 2020, 11:30:18 AM
Did you manage to get reps direct extension?
tried, could not :(
But was definitely a call back due to me calling my local assemblyman office, they referenced it in the beginning of my call. same with someone else,they were called today exactly a week from when they called the assemblyman office.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 06, 2020, 11:37:35 AM
... So you already rec'd funds? Looking for DP from people in NY who've already started to get deposits. Filed 4/6 for UI as of 3/23 and have yet to hear from anyone or get anything. Really discouraged, will try calling assemblyman, ty!
think it's too early to actually receive funds,my account was updated today for the first time since I received the call back on monday. Online shows dd for all weeks being claimed (UI and FPUC)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 06, 2020, 12:00:15 PM
tried, could not :(
But was definitely a call back due to me calling my local assemblyman office, they referenced it in the beginning of my call. same with someone else,they were called today exactly a week from when they called the assemblyman office.

Ok. Thank you!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 06, 2020, 12:01:43 PM
... So you already rec'd funds? Looking for DP from people in NY who've already started to get deposits. Filed 4/6 for UI as of 3/23 and have yet to hear from anyone or get anything. Really discouraged, will try calling assemblyman, ty!

I just got single $600 FPUC today, PUA claim is still pending. Original filing was 4/1 and called multiple state representative offices requesting callback, lots of promises but still waiting.

ETA: Online payment history still shows pending and no payment records.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 06, 2020, 12:02:43 PM
NY
 I Applied online waited a week,called my assemblyman to expedite a call back from DOL(as was mentioned upthread), they called me back a week later and was able to back date my claim successfully (online dd shows for all weeks claimed)

Sounds like it's only a matter of time before funds hit your account, hope you get it soon.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 06, 2020, 12:20:14 PM
Sounds like it's only a matter of time before funds hit your account, hope you get it soon.
yes be'h, release date on all of them is may 6
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 06, 2020, 12:47:55 PM
I just got single $600 FPUC today, PUA claim is still pending. Original filing was 4/1 and called multiple state representative offices requesting callback, lots of promises but still waiting.

ETA: Online payment history still shows pending and no payment records.

My online history shows same; glad you got at least 1 pymt, hopefully rest will follow shortly.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 06, 2020, 01:35:57 PM
yes be'h, release date on all of them is may 6

Good luck!

My online history shows same; glad you got at least 1 pymt, hopefully rest will follow shortly.

My online account has appeared this way for at least a week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 06, 2020, 01:42:48 PM
Update: no money on the 5th.  I guess the email straight out lied which is quite disappointing.   Now lets see if i get the scheduled call tomorrow morning
update: got the call. and the rep said its a monetary call and since my claim is not finalized approved she can't let me know when i will get paid. but she said she sent an email to my case worker. literally no point in phone call

just gotta wait....
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 06, 2020, 03:47:02 PM
NJ: My status says "pending" but I received a notice in the mail to certify my weekly benefits. When certifying online it's giving me an error. Anyone experienced this problem?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 06, 2020, 04:06:46 PM
I just got single $600 FPUC today, PUA claim is still pending. Original filing was 4/1 and called multiple state representative offices requesting callback, lots of promises but still waiting.

ETA: Online payment history still shows pending and no payment records.
Interesting.
A friend of mine filed on 03/19, he got a $600 DD on 04/24, and again today. the payment history still shows pending and no payment records.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 06, 2020, 04:08:59 PM
Interesting.
A friend of mine filed on 03/19, he got a $600 DD on 04/24, and again today. the payment history still shows pending and no payment records.

So random. I hope someone there has a handle on who was paid what so they don’t end up double-paying. As a beneficiary I wouldn’t mind but enough $600 “flukes” will start adding up quickly.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 06, 2020, 04:34:04 PM
So random. I hope someone there has a handle on who was paid what so they don’t end up double-paying. As a beneficiary I wouldn’t mind but enough $600 “flukes” will start adding up quickly.
It looks like no one has a handle on it in NY... with the mismanaged mailings, difficulty getting backdated claims, etc.
i know someone how finally got the call to complete the claim over a week ago, and her online account still says that she could not access her account since the claim is only partially completed...
Someone else has signed up for DD but got a debit card, and this week it started to come via DD....

Hopefully it will be fixed shortly.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 06, 2020, 04:45:23 PM
Just encountered a simple NY issue with an easy fix some might be having.

?s=20

?s=20
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 06, 2020, 10:00:05 PM
NJ: My status says "pending" but I received a notice in the mail to certify my weekly benefits. When certifying online it's giving me an error. Anyone experienced this problem?
u wont be able to certify until it goes to filed
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 06, 2020, 10:12:47 PM
u wont be able to certify until it goes to filed
I was able to re-certify even while pending. (NJ)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 06, 2020, 10:13:59 PM
I was able to re-certify even while pending. (NJ)
i wasnt so i assumed you cant. i take back my statement
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 06, 2020, 10:15:48 PM
i wasnt so i assumed you cant. i take back my statement
No need to take back your statement.
I think we are both right.
Since this is all new and they are overwhelmed, I believe they themselves are not consistent.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 06, 2020, 11:45:57 PM
does anyone know about unemployment in NJ if I used up my unemployment for the year then got a job
for a short time but no longer working can I still get unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 07, 2020, 12:01:04 AM
does anyone know about unemployment in NJ if I used up my unemployment for the year then got a job
for a short time but no longer working can I still get unemployment?

You should definitely get an additional 13 weeks because that was in the CARES Act. You might get some more depending on how NJ structures benefit years.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 07, 2020, 12:33:05 AM
how do I go about getting it? it says I have used up my benifits
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 07, 2020, 09:46:28 AM
does anyone know? I am desperate
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 07, 2020, 09:47:17 AM
how do I go about getting it? it says I have used up my benifits

Maybe it's this issue? Don't know about NJ but could be the rules are similar.

Just encountered a simple NY issue with an easy fix some might be having.

?s=20

?s=20
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 07, 2020, 09:59:57 AM
I filed a claim in July 2019 my benefits ran out in January
I tried to file a claim now and it says You cannot continue to file for Unemployment Insurance benefits because you have an existing Unemployment Insurance claim on file, and your claim balance is zero. what do i do?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 07, 2020, 10:08:35 AM
I filed a claim in July 2019 my benefits ran out in January
I tried to file a claim now and it says You cannot continue to file for Unemployment Insurance benefits because you have an existing Unemployment Insurance claim on file, and your claim balance is zero. what do i do?

https://myunemployment.nj.gov/apply/extensions/
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 07, 2020, 10:15:24 AM
I tried that and got the following
You cannot continue to file for Unemployment Insurance benefits because you have an existing Unemployment Insurance claim on file, and your claim balance is zero

thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 07, 2020, 10:22:02 AM
I tried that and got the following
You cannot continue to file for Unemployment Insurance benefits because you have an existing Unemployment Insurance claim on file, and your claim balance is zero

thanks for your help!

I guess it's time for a phone call...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 07, 2020, 10:56:22 AM
who do I call? is is even possible to get through to anyone?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 07, 2020, 10:59:04 AM
who do I call? is is even possible to get through to anyone?
file a claim with your assemblyman,they can get you can call back even if you don't have a claim in the system
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 07, 2020, 11:24:39 AM
file a claim with your assemblyman,they can get you can call back even if you don't have a claim in the system
Is that true in NJ as well?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 07, 2020, 11:57:22 AM
Is that true in NJ as well?
reports upthread about working in other states,not sure about NJ,tarb
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 07, 2020, 12:25:36 PM
anyone have a number to call?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 07, 2020, 07:24:37 PM
I filed on 3/16 in NJ. I filled out the e adjudication and have been pending for last 4 weeks. Today I went to check and no claim is on file
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: greatdeals on May 07, 2020, 08:30:12 PM
does anyone know how to get a hold of food stamps they are also impossible they don't return calls after leaving messages?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrumy on May 07, 2020, 08:31:05 PM
I filed on 3/16 in NJ. I filled out the e adjudication and have been pending for last 4 weeks. Today I went to check and no claim is on file
What does the status show?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 07, 2020, 10:04:59 PM
Days no claim on file and no pending or file
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 07, 2020, 10:15:13 PM
Days no claim on file and no pending or file
That’s so messed up. I hope you get paid.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 07, 2020, 11:38:51 PM
Lots of people are starting to believe this whole unemployment thing was just a trick to get people to stay home.
Tens of thousands of people in NJ have not been working for 7 - 8 weeks already and almost no one has seen a penny yet.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 08, 2020, 12:01:35 AM
Lots of people are starting to believe this whole unemployment thing was just a trick to get people to stay home.
Tens of thousands of people in NJ have not been working for 7 - 8 weeks already and almost no one has seen a penny yet.
They say 1mm new cases and 700k have been taken care of.  That means 300k people in NJ waiting for benefits.   Crazy!

Rep yesterday told me that they are taking care of claims from March 15th.   
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on May 08, 2020, 12:03:55 AM
Lots of people are starting to believe this whole unemployment thing was just a trick to get people to stay home.
Tens of thousands of people in NJ have not been working for 7 - 8 weeks already and almost no one has seen a penny yet.
While that is indeed very hard on the people who didn't get it, I do believe that most or all regular cases of unemployment, full or partial have received their money right away. The ones who didn't are the ones who only qualify now due to the situation with the virus.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: chff on May 08, 2020, 12:47:32 AM
Re NY for previous weeks that wasn't certified


Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 08, 2020, 12:50:11 AM
While that is indeed very hard on the people who didn't get it, I do believe that most or all regular cases of unemployment, full or partial have received their money right away. The ones who didn't are the ones who only qualify now due to the situation with the virus.
DW claim was a regular claim and they had her employment info in the system. It processed within a few days. Need to get back pay and can't figure out how to do that.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: chff on May 08, 2020, 12:52:22 AM
I applied 4/21 (for UI beginning 3/1) on the direct link and got the msg "submitted". I then logged into my account and it showed no record and it redirected me to a different application page and I applied again thru that link. 2 days later I get a SM with the PUC form and I filled it out, and sice then it simply shows pending status.

When I call I get the msg I have a valid claim and impossible to get thru to a human (some people do get the msg that they need to speak to an agent and get placed on a queue).

And yesterday I get a letter addressed to "NYSDOL customer" with my address that my personal information was leaked. Now there are multiple people living at my address and this is addressed to "NYSDOL customer"
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yelped on May 08, 2020, 09:37:14 AM
DW claim was a regular claim and they had her employment info in the system. It processed within a few days. Need to get back pay and can't figure out how to do that.
Like everyone else. One week is not as bad as people waiting months to get anything.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 08, 2020, 11:22:52 AM
If you received a $0 Benefit Determination when applying for PUA in NY feel free to reach out to me for simple steps on how to rectify the issue.
DOL fixes these in about 4 days.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 08, 2020, 11:51:24 AM
Seems like I'm in the same boat as many in NJ. Submitted early april (for self employed) and responded to e-adjudication email the following week. Claim shows as pending and haven't heard anything since then. Have been getting emails each week about certifying but am unable to since claim is only pending.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 08, 2020, 12:07:58 PM
Seems like I'm in the same boat as many in NJ. Submitted early april (for self employed) and responded to e-adjudication email the following week. Claim shows as pending and haven't heard anything since then. Have been getting emails each week about certifying but am unable to since claim is only pending.
I applied for my mother and I, my application was a few days after my mother. Mine says filed, hers still says pending. It has been almost a month since filing
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: efflpetzel on May 08, 2020, 12:09:24 PM
https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/login  just says 'You will be redirected momentarily…'
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: efflpetzel on May 08, 2020, 12:41:31 PM
if someone gets paid with a 1099 for two separate jobs, one in NJ & one in NY, does he apply for UI in both states?

even if its the same federal program that pays UI for people on a 1099?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Realshlomo on May 08, 2020, 12:48:19 PM
https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/login  just says 'You will be redirected momentarily…'
Use a different browser
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 08, 2020, 12:55:46 PM
Use a different browser
Or clear cache and cookies (control-shift-delete in chrome)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 08, 2020, 12:57:30 PM
if someone gets paid with a 1099 for two separate jobs, one in NJ & one in NY, does he apply for UI in both states?

even if its the same federal program that pays UI for people on a 1099?

Interesting situation.
Remember states are responsible for administering these programs. The Fed only provides the funds.

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#6

If you worked in 2 or more states in the past 18 months, you must file your claim with one of the states where you worked, no matter where you live. You may be able to combine wages from all the states where you worked in the past 18 months. OR, you may use only the wages earned in the filing state. File your claim in a state where you worked, then that state will tell you all your filing options to receive the highest benefit amount.

If NJ lets you use both sources of income, file there. NJ benefit rate is much higher.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 08, 2020, 01:11:47 PM
I know someone who filed reg UI in NJ, worked last year in NY, on application only came up his NJ employer, but they asked if he had any additional employer from out of state, he was able to add. Just asked FEIN and start-end date.
Again, this was for reg UI
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 08, 2020, 06:29:38 PM
Psa: i filed for UI and gave a DD. For some reason a few weeks worth of $ went on my debit card that i had from disability from my last kid. So check your debit cards if something doesnt add up
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 08, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
Any updates on how to claim Unemployment for 1099 worker in NJ?

Says Claim Status: Filed
        Weekly Benefit Rate: $0
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 08, 2020, 06:31:05 PM
Any updates on how to claim Unemployment for 1099 worker?

Says Claim Status: Filed
        Weekly Benefit Rate: $0

NY?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 08, 2020, 06:34:10 PM
NY?
Sorry forgot to mention; NJ
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 08, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Any updates on how to claim Unemployment for 1099 worker in NJ?

Says Claim Status: Filed
        Weekly Benefit Rate: $0
In this case, you are supposed to do nothing until they email you (they claim that will next by next week).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 09, 2020, 09:31:58 PM
In this case, you are supposed to do nothing until they email you (they claim that will next by next week).
Thanks.
Where did you see that supposedly they"ll email next week?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: troner100 on May 09, 2020, 09:39:02 PM
I’ve been getting unemployment in NJ for the last three weeks, but my last payment came through without the extra $600 (a week passed by already).
Anyone know what to do? Or where to reach out?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 09, 2020, 10:02:40 PM
I’ve been getting unemployment in NJ for the last three weeks, but my last payment came through without the extra $600 (a week passed by already).
Anyone know what to do? Or where to reach out?
Same for DW.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 09, 2020, 10:24:19 PM
My claim just got filed in NJ and dates were from 3/15.
How do I get $ for last 2 months
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 09, 2020, 10:37:54 PM
Important alert for NJ residents:
There is a completely new schedule to re-certify this week. The time-slots changed. Check now and set yourself a reminded for the new time. https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 09, 2020, 11:02:50 PM
Message from NYS Department of Labor: BACK WEEK CERTIFICATIONS
You have been identified as an individual who is missing certifications for back weeks of claims. To address this, you will receive an email in the coming weeks that will provide a secure technology solution for this issue. Please be sure to watch your email for this important message.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 09, 2020, 11:09:59 PM
Message from NYS Department of Labor: BACK WEEK CERTIFICATIONS
You have been identified as an individual who is missing certifications for back weeks of claims. To address this, you will receive an email in the coming weeks that will provide a secure technology solution for this issue. Please be sure to watch your email for this important message.

Finally. They sent out thousands of these over the weekend.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 09, 2020, 11:15:51 PM
Finally. They sent out thousands of these over the weekend.
Letters or emails?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 09, 2020, 11:24:10 PM
Important alert for NJ residents:
There is a completely new schedule to re-certify this week. The time-slots changed. Check now and set yourself a reminded for the new time. https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/05/take-note-of-new-schedule-for-nj-unemployment-benefit-re-certifications.html
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on May 09, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Important alert for NJ residents:
There is a completely new schedule to re-certify this week. The time-slots changed. Check now and set yourself a reminded for the new time. https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml
THe make up day being shabbos will make things difficult for many.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 09, 2020, 11:32:56 PM
how am i getting paid for the past 6 weeks in NJ if i just show filed today?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 09, 2020, 11:53:12 PM
Finally. They sent out thousands of these over the weekend.

Thousands? They probably have hundreds of thousands of applicants who should be getting this.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 09, 2020, 11:55:43 PM
My claim just got filed in NJ and dates were from 3/15.
How do I get $ for last 2 months
how am i getting paid for the past 6 weeks in NJ if i just show filed today?
Don't think anyone figured that out yet. There is seemingly no way to do that as of now although I would assume eventually we will get the money.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 10, 2020, 12:46:24 AM
We finally got an email that our claim is payable and we need to certify on Friday May 8, and if not, we lose a week.
However, the email was sent on Saturday May 9!
How incompetent are these people?
What do we do now?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 10, 2020, 01:02:20 AM
THe make up day being shabbos will make things difficult for many.
Intentional perhaps?
It wouldn't surprise me anymore.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 10, 2020, 01:05:36 AM
Intentional perhaps?
It wouldn't surprise me anymore.
Not likely.
They are trying to spread the recertifications over more days because the system was getting overloaded so that leaves just shabbos for the makeup day.

They also cut the time slots down to 1/2 hour.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 1356Abe on May 10, 2020, 09:14:44 AM
NJ - Got accepted and received standard unemployment. But 600 for current weeks or for previous weeks were not deposited. Any idea why this might be? Is the 600 retroactive to application date or from date PUA went into affect?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: KSMH on May 10, 2020, 09:21:27 AM
NJ - Got accepted and received standard unemployment. But 600 for current weeks or for previous weeks were not deposited. Any idea why this might be? Is the 600 retroactive to application date or from date PUA went into affect?
Takes time but they usally deposit after a while.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 10, 2020, 10:07:18 AM
THe make up day being shabbos will make things difficult for many.
What time does the site close? Motzai Shabbos not an option?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on May 10, 2020, 10:08:47 AM
What time does the site close? Motzai Shabbos not an option?
Don't think so. Check the link.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 10, 2020, 10:10:02 AM
And you don't have all day on your day? That stinks.

Everyone move to NY, the rate is lower and site closes at 7 but at least you don't need to be there during a specific half hour every week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 10, 2020, 10:13:18 AM
This was mentioned upthread, in NJ you can enter any SSN that matches with the time slot (for example, if it's time for 5000-6000 you enter 000005000), that gets you through the "pay wall" and then you enter your real SSN to recertify.
shhhh
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 10, 2020, 10:32:41 AM
This was mentioned upthread, in NJ you can enter any SSN that matches with the time slot (for example, if it's time for 5000-6000 you enter 000005000), that gets you through the "pay wall" and then you enter your real SSN to recertify.
Don't think this still works.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 10, 2020, 10:49:06 AM
Don't think this still works.
It worked on Friday.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 10, 2020, 11:04:24 AM
This was mentioned upthread, in NJ you can enter any SSN that matches with the time slot (for example, if it's time for 5000-6000 you enter 000005000), that gets you through the "pay wall" and then you enter your real SSN to recertify.
When entering the phony SS number, I get the following message " We do not have a claim on file. Please confirm that the information that you entered is correct. If you would like to file a claim, please go to myunemployment.nj.gov"
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 10, 2020, 11:09:44 AM
It worked on Friday.
i believe they changed the login screen so this does not work anymore
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 10, 2020, 11:11:59 AM
When entering the phony SS number, I get the following message " We do not have a claim on file. Please confirm that the information that you entered is correct. If you would like to file a claim, please go to myunemployment.nj.gov"
I see now they changed the page and now require the real SSN with date of birth, oh well.

Should still work if you have someone's real info (family member etc.) for that time slot and then proceed to put in your info...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: troner100 on May 10, 2020, 11:13:01 AM
I missed my certifying slot last week, is there any way to still get the benefits?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: aygart on May 10, 2020, 11:25:28 AM
I missed my certifying slot last week, is there any way to still get the benefits?
When you next recertify you should be able to enter for both weeks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 10, 2020, 03:10:58 PM
Many have been asking about getting unemployment retroactively in NJ.

This is from the LRRC Q&A
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/COVID-19-Government-Help.pdf

52. I was approved for benefits, but I am only being given the option to claim benefits from last week.
How can I get the retroactive benefits?
Generally, unemployment benefits only go retroactive as of the week that you filed. PUA will provide the
benefits retroactive to the date that you became unemployed. When you certify for weekly benefits, look out for
the option to certify for previous weeks. Since PUA is a new program and the State is still finalizing details, it
may take some time to receive the option to certify for previous weeks. Be patient – there are tens of thousands
of people in the same situation as you.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 10, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
Many have been asking about getting unemployment retroactively in NJ.

This is from the LRRC Q&A
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/COVID-19-Government-Help.pdf

52. I was approved for benefits, but I am only being given the option to claim benefits from last week.
How can I get the retroactive benefits?
Generally, unemployment benefits only go retroactive as of the week that you filed. PUA will provide the
benefits retroactive to the date that you became unemployed. When you certify for weekly benefits, look out for
the option to certify for previous weeks. Since PUA is a new program and the State is still finalizing details, it
may take some time to receive the option to certify for previous weeks. Be patient – there are tens of thousands
of people in the same situation as you.
Today we were given the option to claim retroactively - but only from the date we first applied, not from the date of unemployment which was 1 1/2 weeks before the application date.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 1356Abe on May 10, 2020, 03:56:47 PM
Anyone know if leaving country is allowed while collecting unemployment? Have flight tom. Any info would be appreciated. PS always worked remotely but don't think they have record that worked remotely.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 10, 2020, 03:58:46 PM
Anyone know if leaving country is allowed while collecting unemployment? Have flight tom. Any info would be appreciated. PS always worked remotely but don't think they have record that worked remotely.
Typically it wouldn’t be allowed but it should depend on your reason for unemployment. If the reason is fear of catching COVID or the like I don’t see why it would be an issue.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 10, 2020, 04:02:00 PM
Typically it wouldn’t be allowed but it should depend on your reason for unemployment. If the reason is fear of catching COVID or the like I don’t see why it would be an issue.
I believe if you leave the country you are not eligible to collect for that period, as your were "not able and available for work" and not "actively seeking work?"

I might be wrong.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 10, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
Anyone know if leaving country is allowed while collecting unemployment? Have flight tom. Any info would be appreciated. PS always worked remotely but don't think they have record that worked remotely.

You might have a problem certifying. I know of a few who had their claims flagged because they certified out of state/country. (some were in state but had filters/VPN pointing to other countries).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 10, 2020, 04:03:10 PM
I believe if you leave the country your nt elegeble to collect for that period, as your where "not able and available for work" and not "actively seeking work?"

I might be wrong.

I know in NY it's an issue.
https://labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/WarningsandAdvisoriespage.shtm

Not sure about now because the seeking work requirement has changed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 1356Abe on May 10, 2020, 04:04:37 PM
Anyone if the Passport exit triggers cancellation?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 10, 2020, 04:19:00 PM
Anyone if the Passport exit triggers cancellation?

For sure doesn't because you can collect unemployment in NY if you work for a NY employer even if you work out-of-state/country.
Telecommuting is not clear...

https://labor.ny.gov/ui/dande/covered1.shtm
Generally, services performed entirely outside NYS are excluded. However, if such services are not covered under the laws of any other state, they are covered under NYS law if performed: (1) outside the United States (except Canada and the Virgin Islands) by a citizen of the US for an American employer whose principal place of business is located in NYS; (2) within the United States, Canada or the Virgin Islands, if the place from which the services are directed and controlled is in NYS.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 10, 2020, 04:21:06 PM
To summarize:
If you work in NY for a NY employer it's an issue to leave the state because then you are no longer ready, willing, and able to work.

If you work out-of-state/country for NY employer you should be able to collect from your resident state/country and don't need to be present in NY. That's as per the letter of the law, but they have struck down on telecommuting claims in the past.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 10, 2020, 07:53:51 PM
I know someone who lives in Israel but is an American citizen and works for a company in NY.
She tried to make a UI claim online but got a rejection notice that said something about being out of the usa...


The link 3 posts up says this.
"You may not be eligible to claim benefits outside the United States...

If you travel to a foreign country (except Canada), you should not claim benefits while you are in the foreign country. Call the Telephone Claim Center before your trip to find out if you can protect your benefit rights while you're away. "

Does this mean she should just try and call and would be eligible?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 10, 2020, 08:00:14 PM
I know someone who lives in Israel but is an American citizen and works for a company in NY.
She tried to make a UI claim online but got a rejection notice that said something about being out of the usa...


The link 3 posts up says this.
"You may not be eligible to claim benefits outside the United States...

If you travel to a foreign country (except Canada), you should not claim benefits while you are in the foreign country. Call the Telephone Claim Center before your trip to find out if you can protect your benefit rights while you're away. "

Does this mean she should just try and call and would be eligible?

She should definitely call. They're flagging claims filed via locations out of state/country.
There's a 99% chance that her claim would be approved (she needs to explain that she works for a NY based company that has all its operations in NY- a company's operations being located in NY is usually the key for eligibility). There is a 1% chance that they'll deny her claim due to telecommuting. Haven't personally heard this happening to anyone, but I've read up on legal cases where they rejected telecommuting claims.

Another point- she's not travelling out of country and trying to claim from there.
See this:
For sure doesn't because you can collect unemployment in NY if you work for a NY employer even if you work out-of-state/country.
Telecommuting is not clear...

https://labor.ny.gov/ui/dande/covered1.shtm
Generally, services performed entirely outside NYS are excluded. However, if such services are not covered under the laws of any other state, they are covered under NYS law if performed: (1) outside the United States (except Canada and the Virgin Islands) by a citizen of the US for an American employer whose principal place of business is located in NYS; (2) within the United States, Canada or the Virgin Islands, if the place from which the services are directed and controlled is in NYS.

Filing from out-of-state because you live there and work for a NY employer is not the same as filing out-of-state because you're travelling while unemployed when your principal place of work is physically in NY.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 10:26:12 AM
NJ. Self-employed.

We just finally received a lump sum for 6 weeks of PUA (approximately 60% of earnings), retroactive to the week of claim filing.

1 - What happened to the FPUC of $600 per week? Do we need to do anything to get that or just wait?
2 - Weren't we supposed to get benefits retroactively from the date of unemployment, which was 1 1/2 weeks before the date the claim was filed?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 11, 2020, 10:29:03 AM
NJ.

We just finally received a lump sum for 6 weeks of PUA (approximately 60% of earnings), retroactive to the week of claim filing.

1 - What happened to the FPUC of $600 per week? Do we need to do anything to get that or just wait?
2 - Weren't we supposed to get benefits retroactively from the date of unemployment, which was 1 1/2 weeks before the date the claim was filed?

Thanks.
It seems that the answer to just about every question these days, including both of these questions, is - wait it out and it will get fixed over time, but it'll take some time for them to get the system right...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 11, 2020, 11:34:32 AM
NJ.

We just finally received a lump sum for 6 weeks of PUA (approximately 60% of earnings), retroactive to the week of claim filing.

1 - What happened to the FPUC of $600 per week? Do we need to do anything to get that or just wait?
2 - Weren't we supposed to get benefits retroactively from the date of unemployment, which was 1 1/2 weeks before the date the claim was filed?

Thanks.
What specifically do you mean by PUA, you're a 1099 worker?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 12:06:37 PM
What specifically do you mean by PUA, you're a 1099 worker?
Yes, self-employed. 1099.
Should have been more clear. Sorry.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 11, 2020, 12:09:28 PM
Yes, self-employed. 1099.
Should have been more clear. Sorry.
Did you get the email to fill out the special form?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 11, 2020, 12:13:20 PM

2 - Weren't we supposed to get benefits retroactively from the date of unemployment, which was 1 1/2 weeks before the date the claim was filed?


i got regular UI and have the same issue. just gonna wait it out
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 11, 2020, 12:20:28 PM
Yes, self-employed. 1099.
Should have been more clear. Sorry.
Which proof did you had to submit?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 11, 2020, 12:29:53 PM
Yes, self-employed. 1099.

I'm still waiting for mine, still says Weekly Benefit Rate: $0
What was the process by you?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 12:46:06 PM
Did you get the email to fill out the special form?
Yes.
2 days ago.
It was quick & easy.
But like I said, not retroactive to date of unemployment and no $600 per week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 12:46:46 PM
Which proof did you had to submit?
They didn't ask for any.
Supposedly, they are using the 2019 tax return.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 12:47:28 PM
I'm still waiting for mine, still says Weekly Benefit Rate: $0
What was the process by you?
We filled out a form on March 29.
And kept re-certifying every week.
And kept waiting . . .
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 11, 2020, 12:54:00 PM
We filled out a form on March 29.
And kept re-certifying every week.
And kept waiting . . .
What form?
When I try to certify it gives me an error, tells me I have to call.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
What form?
When I try to certify it gives me an error, tells me I have to call.
We went through that a few times. But there are make-up times during the week and it always went through at some point.
It's almost impossible to get through on the phone. Best is to call exactly 8:30 AM or even a little earlier. See guidance from LRRC.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 11, 2020, 12:59:25 PM
We went through that a few times. But there are make-up times during the week and it always went through at some point.

It went through by you even with a benefit rate of $0?

And what form did you fill out?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 11, 2020, 01:05:30 PM
Did you get the email to fill out the special form?

I’m still waiting for this...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 01:26:33 PM
It went through by you even with a benefit rate of $0?
Yes, although upthread someone (Shulem?) said it wasn't working for him either.

And what form did you fill out?
Originally, the basic unemployment form on the website. After that, the re-certification form every week. 2 days ago, some new form they linked to in an email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
I’m still waiting for this...
There's light at the end of the tunnel.
We waited many weeks.
Though like I said, we didn't get retroactive to the date of unemployment and not the $600 at all.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 01:33:41 PM
Important data point.
When we finally received that email 2 days ago to fill out a new simple form, it asked us to certify separately for each week of unemployment, even though we already re-certified for all those weeks previously.
So my guess is that even those having trouble re-certifying will eventually be able to when they get the link to the new form.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 11, 2020, 01:41:52 PM
Important data point.
When we finally received that email 2 days ago to fill out a new simple form, it asked us to certify separately for each week of unemployment, even though we already re-certified for all those weeks previously.
So my guess is that even those having trouble re-certifying will eventually be able to when they get the link to the new form.
What's the subject line for that email?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 4yourinfo on May 11, 2020, 02:19:21 PM
We went through that a few times. But there are make-up times during the week and it always went through at some point.
It's almost impossible to get through on the phone. Best is to call exactly 8:30 AM or even a little earlier. See guidance from LRRC.
Were you able to ever get through? Or you're just quoting the lrrc?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 02:43:27 PM
What's the subject line for that email?
Sunday: Certify your status online to receive unemployment payments
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 02:44:39 PM
Were you able to ever get through? Or you're just quoting the lrrc?
We got through once to the Cumberland, NJ number.
Although we couldn't speak to a representative, we were able to re-certify that time on the phone.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 11, 2020, 04:58:13 PM
Oh no
this week in NJ (May 10) the lower numbers ssn(last 4) were to re certify on Sunday for unemployment benefits and only make up day is on Saturday.  What do we do? did we miss this weeks payment and Saturday is well off limits for most of us!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 11, 2020, 05:07:22 PM
Oh no
this week in NJ (May 10) the lower numbers ssn(last 4) were to re certify on Sunday for unemployment benefits and only make up day is on Saturday.  What do we do? did we miss this weeks payment and Saturday is well off limits for most of us!

Unless you're lower than 0555, you'll still have a make up slot tonight before 7PM
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 11, 2020, 05:22:25 PM
Unless you're lower than 0555, you'll still have a make up slot tonight before 7PM

thats for today Monday are you sure? maybe yesterday
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shapsam on May 11, 2020, 05:23:32 PM
thats for today Monday are you sure? maybe yesterday
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 11, 2020, 05:25:40 PM
Any way to reset a pin online (NJ)? It's saying to call...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 11, 2020, 05:29:31 PM
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml

Mondays schedule does not have lower numbers(0000-1666) that was yesterday
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 11, 2020, 05:29:46 PM
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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 11, 2020, 05:50:11 PM
Oh no
this week in NJ (May 10) the lower numbers ssn(last 4) were to re certify on Sunday for unemployment benefits and only make up day is on Saturday.  What do we do? did we miss this weeks payment and Saturday is well off limits for most of us!

so what do I do now?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 11, 2020, 06:07:21 PM
thats for today Monday are you sure? maybe yesterday
You're right, I thought today was Sunday. One big blur...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 11, 2020, 06:15:39 PM
You're right, I thought today was Sunday. One big blur...

and only makeup day is saturday
did I lose this weeks benefits or worse am I going to be removed?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 11, 2020, 06:31:14 PM
and only makeup day is saturday
did I lose this weeks benefits or worse am I going to be removed?

You didn't lose it, it'll just be delayed until you certify for this week too when you certify next week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 11, 2020, 06:34:53 PM
You didn't lose it, it'll just be delayed until you certify for this week too when you certify next week.


in nj? source?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 11, 2020, 06:38:35 PM

in nj? source?

Calling all NJ residents on UI: can you be my source?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 11, 2020, 06:54:36 PM
Calling all NJ residents on UI: can you be my source?
I'm in NJ.

I'll repost what I wrote above. It may help.

Important data point.
When we finally received that email 2 days ago to fill out a new simple form, it asked us to certify separately for each week of unemployment, even though we already re-certified for all those weeks previously.
So my guess is that even those having trouble re-certifying will eventually be able to when they get the link to the new form.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 11, 2020, 07:01:30 PM
What form to fill out ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: monoso on May 11, 2020, 09:16:16 PM
The easiest way to certify is by phone its automated and most importantly you can do it whenever you want It goes very quick
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 11, 2020, 09:18:26 PM
The easiest way to certify is by phone its automated and most importantly you can do it whenever you want It goes very quick
Not Whenever you want, there are also some restrictions.
But a lot more flexible than online.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: monoso on May 11, 2020, 09:19:22 PM
I was in the midst of starting a business and about to start advertising when the pandemic started,  Is there anyway for me to claim unemployment? I did sell a few products before and did make a couple of hundred dollars between jan and april. I was not planning to file taxes on that income because this venture looks like it may get pushed off for the long while. How would I go about proving my income amount what would be sufficent?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 11, 2020, 09:53:03 PM
I was in the midst of starting a business and about to start advertising when the pandemic started,  Is there anyway for me to claim unemployment? I did sell a few products before and did make a couple of hundred dollars between jan and april. I was not planning to file taxes on that income because this venture looks like it may get pushed off for the long while. How would I go about proving my income amount what would be sufficent?

You should file because you're legally entitled to it. I suggest you submit a business plan with a P&L of the sales you've made so far. Chances are you'll recieve the PUA minimum but that will be supplemented by the $600/weekly.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 12, 2020, 08:44:05 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-google-help-states-as-coronavirus-boosts-unemployment-claims-11589275801 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-google-help-states-as-coronavirus-boosts-unemployment-claims-11589275801?mod=hp_lead_pos1)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 12, 2020, 09:48:05 AM
Not Whenever you want, there are also some restrictions.
But a lot more flexible than online.

can you certify by phone in NJ? I thought message said it has to be online now?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shmielyosef on May 12, 2020, 11:06:00 AM
can you certify by phone in NJ? I thought message said it has to be online now?
You can only certify by phone if you're eligible for reg unemployment. If you're only eligible for PUA then it has to be done online
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidd75 on May 12, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
You can only certify by phone if you're eligible for reg unemployment. If you're only eligible for PUA then it has to be done online

so if one missed their slot online this week they can call and re-certify for reg unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shmielyosef on May 12, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
so if one missed their slot online this week they can call and re-certify for reg unemployment?
I believe so. Not 100% sure. Why don't you try? It's an automated system
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 12, 2020, 12:46:13 PM
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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 01:09:36 PM
Thank you @cgr for all your efforts on behalf of everyone here. If anyone would like to show him appreciation, click here:

https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=GavQduBlacYmBHWk0MIZeI-wMuNjeGSGduckqNULJiMD2Qcvta_mFZmdk7rFMzTJpXZ1OG&country.x=US&locale.x= (https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=GavQduBlacYmBHWk0MIZeI-wMuNjeGSGduckqNULJiMD2Qcvta_mFZmdk7rFMzTJpXZ1OG&country.x=US&locale.x=)

For the record, he has no idea that I am posting this.

@Iz thanks! I created that mainly to prevent burnout...
And just to correct your grammar the correct pronoun here is her/she, not him/he ;)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 12, 2020, 01:35:19 PM
@Iz thanks! I created that mainly to prevent burnout...
And just to correct your grammar the correct pronoun here is her/she, not him/he ;)
On DDF we always assume him/he until proven otherwise  ;)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 12, 2020, 01:52:39 PM
Does her/she deal with NJ Unemployment, NYor both
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 12, 2020, 02:02:22 PM
I just got single $600 FPUC today, PUA claim is still pending. Original filing was 4/1 and called multiple state representative offices requesting callback, lots of promises but still waiting.

ETA: Online payment history still shows pending and no payment records.
Interesting.
A friend of mine filed on 03/19, he got a $600 DD on 04/24, and again today. the payment history still shows pending and no payment records.
He finally got an email from the DOL that "Thank you for your patience. We have determined that your claim can now be paid."
His online account changed from pending to having his benefit Amount, but still no payment info on the backdated weeks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 02:16:19 PM
He finally got an email from the DOL that "Thank you for your patience. We have determined that your claim can now be paid."
His online account changed from pending to having his benefit Amount, but still no payment info on the backdated weeks.

In NY they're only starting to roll out the system to file backdated claims now. He needs to wait for an email from them with instructions on how to certify for backpay. In the meantime he should definitely continue certifying for upcoming weeks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 02:17:11 PM
Does her/she deal with NJ Unemployment, NYor both

I'm a lot more knowledgeable about the NY system although I can answer basic legal and requirement questions for NJ.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 12, 2020, 02:20:15 PM
@Iz thanks! I created that mainly to prevent burnout...
And just to correct your grammar the correct pronoun here is her/she, not him/he ;)
Corrected.
Today is a good day to keep the fire going. 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 12, 2020, 02:21:00 PM
In NY they're only starting to roll out the system to file backdated claims now. He needs to wait for an email from them with instructions on how to certify for backpay. In the meantime he should definitely continue certifying for upcoming weeks.
Do you know what the email subject line is?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 02:40:10 PM
Do you know what the email subject line is?

They started with this:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tRXDncr18PpfL0ps7065o_zy8hlyWvEQ8uAB0FcCipiTZMGToHEPyTvy60Lwnhsbpmciy2hJncFSX8urUoJDZ9Guvn7SzZSmt6QjU6A2-3h4OZ_te5GLY_UlEpcbJvSc9nkkKWcyqF0=w2400)

And now they're starting to get back to people for actual certifications. Haven't seen that email personally yet but I've heard of some who got it.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 12, 2020, 02:47:59 PM
They started with this:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tRXDncr18PpfL0ps7065o_zy8hlyWvEQ8uAB0FcCipiTZMGToHEPyTvy60Lwnhsbpmciy2hJncFSX8urUoJDZ9Guvn7SzZSmt6QjU6A2-3h4OZ_te5GLY_UlEpcbJvSc9nkkKWcyqF0=w2400)

And now they're starting to get back to people for actual certifications. Haven't seen that email personally yet but I've heard of some who got it.
TY
Haven't gotten either yet.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 12, 2020, 03:59:16 PM
Self-employed. NJ.

Someone collecting unemployment but then has a baby, what should she do?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 04:03:01 PM
Self-employed. NJ.

Someone collecting unemployment but then has a baby, what should she do?

She shouldn't certify until she considers herself "ready, willing, and able to work". (that's up to her of course... especially now with most having the ability to telework)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 12, 2020, 04:12:42 PM
Self-employed. NJ.

Someone collecting unemployment but then has a baby, what should she do?
I never stopped working when i had a baby...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 12, 2020, 05:33:39 PM
Great news!
Just found out that the DOL fine-tuned the definition (again) for the $600.
Here it is: The federal supplement would not affect eligibility for other benefits like Medicaid, CHIP, SNAP, and housing assistance.
I know a few who were rejected by SNAP because UI income was too high, if that happens you'll need to file for a conference/hearing to explain why you are eligible.
Here is the official source if they ask for it: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/files/documents/UC%20FAQ.pdf
Sent in this document to the local SNAP office, but the supervisor got back that this was only proposed, and that the final bill does allow to count it as income.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 12, 2020, 05:37:15 PM
She shouldn't certify until she considers herself "ready, willing, and able to work". (that's up to her of course... especially now with most having the ability to telework)

1 - Let's say she doesn't re-certify for 3 weeks or so, would she then need to completely re-apply afterwards or just start re-certifying again?
2 - Is there any other benefit (family leave, disability, etc.) that she can claim during those few weeks that she wouldn't be working? (Remember she's self-employed and in NJ).

Thank you.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
Sent in this document to the local SNAP office, but the supervisor got back that this was only proposed, and that the final bill does allow to count it as income.

Wow. That's crazy. They circulated a doc with no mention that it's a proposed bill and it includes an FAQ???
Something seems off...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 05:41:35 PM
1 - Let's say she doesn't re-certify for 3 weeks or so, would she then need to completely re-apply afterwards or just start re-certifying again?
2 - Is there any other benefit (family leave, disability, etc.) that she can claim during those few weeks that she wouldn't be working? (Remember she's self-employed and in NJ).

Thank you.

1- just start re-certifying
2- a) you need to be employed to be on any of those programs b) those are programs you need to pay into before being eligible. As self-employed she probably didn't.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 12, 2020, 05:46:53 PM
Wow. That's crazy. They circulated a doc with no mention that it's a proposed bill and it includes an FAQ???
Something seems off...
The title is "Provisions Related to Unemployment Compensation in the Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act" afaik this bill never passed
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
The title is "Provisions Related to Unemployment Compensation in the Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act" afaik this bill never passed

wow. thanks for pointing that out. I've updated the wiki accordingly
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 12, 2020, 05:55:29 PM
1- just start re-certifying
2- a) you need to be employed to be on any of those programs b) those are programs you need to pay into before being eligible. As self-employed she probably didn't.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 12, 2020, 05:59:10 PM
1 - Let's say she doesn't re-certify for 3 weeks or so

Btw I admire the honesty. I was dealing with someone who was convincing herself that she's "ready, willing, and able to work" for most of the week that she gave birth so she'll just file that she wasn't "ready, willing, and able to work" for 3 days that week...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 12, 2020, 06:03:49 PM
Btw I admire the honesty. I was dealing with someone who was convincing herself that she's "ready, willing, and able to work" for most of the week that she gave birth so she'll just file that she wasn't "ready, willing, and able to work" for 3 days that week...
Thanks.
This lady (and her husband) are straight shooters.  :D
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 12, 2020, 06:12:08 PM
wow. thanks for pointing that out. I've updated the wiki accordingly
The text of the final bill mentions only Medicaid and Chip.
(Sec. 2104) "(h) Disregard Of Additional Compensation For Purposes Of Medicaid And CHIP.—The monthly equivalent of any Federal pandemic unemployment compensation paid to an individual under this section shall be disregarded when determining income for any purpose under the programs established under titles XIX and title XXI of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396 et seq., 1397aa et seq.)"
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hr748/BILLS-116hr748enr.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 12, 2020, 06:27:33 PM
Thank you @cgr for all your efforts on behalf of everyone here. If anyone would like to show her appreciation, click here:

https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=GavQduBlacYmBHWk0MIZeI-wMuNjeGSGduckqNULJiMD2Qcvta_mFZmdk7rFMzTJpXZ1OG&country.x=US&locale.x= (https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=GavQduBlacYmBHWk0MIZeI-wMuNjeGSGduckqNULJiMD2Qcvta_mFZmdk7rFMzTJpXZ1OG&country.x=US&locale.x=)

For the record, she has no idea that I am posting this.
This link is no longer valid. The correct link is in the wiki.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 13, 2020, 01:05:20 AM
Wow. That's crazy. They circulated a doc with no mention that it's a proposed bill and it includes an FAQ???
Something seems off...
i asked lrrc about it and they told me that it counts as income for snap, but not for hud and jerseycare. after googling i did find this pdf from the usda, see a2
https://www.kark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/85/2020/04/SNAP-COVID-QA1-April-11.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: skv on May 13, 2020, 01:07:27 AM
Self-employed. NJ.

Someone collecting unemployment but then has a baby, what should she do?

I just joined ddf to answer this question. In NJ there is something called disability during unemployment. You can switch your claim to disability so that you don't have to be ready able and willing to work. You wouldn't get the extra $600 for those weeks. The million dollar question would be how to do that since you can't get through to the unemployment office....
If I find a way to do it online I will update.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 13, 2020, 10:08:21 AM
NY: On Sunday I got an email that my claim had been approved. This morning I got the same email again. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 10:08:49 AM
I just joined ddf to answer this question. In NJ there is something called disability during unemployment. You can switch your claim to disability so that you don't have to be ready able and willing to work. You wouldn't get the extra $600 for those weeks. The million dollar question would be how to do that since you can't get through to the unemployment office....
If I find a way to do it online I will update.
Thank you.
But usually there is no disability for self-employed.
Are you sure now there is?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 10:11:02 AM
NJ.
How is it possible that every single self-employed person I know is receiving exactly $231 for UI.
It's supposed to be 60% of income.
(Not to mention that I don't know of any self-employed people who received the $600 per week yet.)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 13, 2020, 10:12:04 AM
NJ.
How is it possible that every single self-employed person I know is receiving exactly $231 for UI.
It's supposed to be 60% of income.
(Not to mention that I don't know of any self-employed people who received the $600 per week yet.)
Minimum wage?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 13, 2020, 10:14:35 AM
NJ.
How is it possible that every single self-employed person I know is receiving exactly $231 for UI.
It's supposed to be 60% of income.
(Not to mention that I don't know of any self-employed people who received the $600 per week yet.)
I know self-employed ppl in NJ who got the $600.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 10:21:55 AM
Minimum wage?
But it's supposed to be 60% of income, and the people I know have varied incomes.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 10:22:40 AM
I know self-employed ppl in NJ who got the $600.
Why some and not others?
This whole thing has been run worse than the ObamaCare rollout.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 10:23:18 AM
i asked lrrc about it and they told me that it counts as income for snap, but not for hud and jerseycare. after googling i did find this pdf from the usda, see a2
https://www.kark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/85/2020/04/SNAP-COVID-QA1-April-11.pdf

FYI there's a clause in the new bill about changing this provision (although I doubt it'll ever see the light of day)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 10:24:29 AM
NJ.
How is it possible that every single self-employed person I know is receiving exactly $231 for UI.
It's supposed to be 60% of income.
(Not to mention that I don't know of any self-employed people who received the $600 per week yet.)

I know that CA announced that they're putting all PUA applicants on the minimum PUA rate until they can actually review all applications and determine the correct amount. Maybe NJ is doing the same?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 13, 2020, 10:39:36 AM
Seems like I'm in the same boat as many in NJ. Submitted early april (for self employed) and responded to e-adjudication email the following week. Claim shows as pending and haven't heard anything since then. Have been getting emails each week about certifying but am unable to since claim is only pending.
Just received another unemployment questionairre and they say that they have another 4 weeks to respond now   ::)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 10:48:51 AM
I know that CA announced that they're putting all PUA applicants on the minimum PUA rate until they can actually review all applications and determine the correct amount. Maybe NJ is doing the same?
I was thinking the same.
However, that just makes things even more messy for them.
As it is, they have not been paying the $600, they have not been giving retroactive to the date of unemployment, and now even the 60% they need to fix up.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 13, 2020, 11:05:32 AM
NJ.
How is it possible that every single self-employed person I know is receiving exactly $231 for UI.
It's supposed to be 60% of income.
(Not to mention that I don't know of any self-employed people who received the $600 per week yet.)

because thats the minimum.  first they give that and then they are supposed to reevaluate
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 11:07:19 AM
because thats the minimum.  first they give that and then they are supposed to reevaluate
You know that for a fact in NJ or you're surmising like the rest of us?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 11:09:52 AM
They started with this:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tRXDncr18PpfL0ps7065o_zy8hlyWvEQ8uAB0FcCipiTZMGToHEPyTvy60Lwnhsbpmciy2hJncFSX8urUoJDZ9Guvn7SzZSmt6QjU6A2-3h4OZ_te5GLY_UlEpcbJvSc9nkkKWcyqF0=w2400)

And now they're starting to get back to people for actual certifications. Haven't seen that email personally yet but I've heard of some who got it.

Certification Email:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fvJ7SC3QV_8L1K0hQsHhfzUyYGqhM7rH1hWh94l5A_zW0VXsbTu7qbMBwwJ9Qwj4oxB5FWXTYuD3k9Z-NO7cuzCo3PdW7Er_uYl4bdR_DvuPFa9pu9fFDiQ-lLme-gGd-R91epqGj6A=w2400)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: skv on May 13, 2020, 11:49:47 AM
Thank you.
But usually there is no disability for self-employed.
Are you sure now there is?

I don't think the state themselves is quite sure of anything. But I think that once you are approved and getting paid it should be like regular unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 04:17:51 PM
NJ.
How is it possible that every single self-employed person I know is receiving exactly $231 for UI.
It's supposed to be 60% of income.

https://www.nj.gov/labor/lwdhome/press/2020/20200429_puapayments.shtml

Looks like NJ is indeed following this practice of first administering minimum benefits, and then scaling from there.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Baglach on May 13, 2020, 04:35:54 PM
If im self employed with a business registered in FL and my residency in NY with what state do i file?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 04:43:17 PM
If im self employed with a business registered in FL and my residency in NY with what state do i file?

Probably FL (a pity since FL rate is max $275 while in NY it's $504)
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#6

Q: If I live in New York State, but worked in another state, where do I apply for benefits?

A: If you live in New York State, but all your work in the past 18 months was in another state, file your claim with the state where you worked. See details and filing instructions in other states.

If you worked in 2 or more states in the past 18 months, you must file your claim with one of the states where you worked, no matter where you live. You may be able to combine wages from all the states where you worked in the past 18 months. OR, you may use only the wages earned in the filing state. File your claim in a state where you worked, then that state will tell you all your filing options to receive the highest benefit amount. See details and filing instructions in other states.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 13, 2020, 04:55:14 PM
Afaf again, last week I asked for her also.


: If I applied thru pandemic unemployed assistance (PUA) and not thru regular UI, do I still need to fill out a regular UI application?
[5/13, 3:50 PM] : And after filling out PUA application it said submitted and now a full day later it still just says submitted.... hasn't updated to anything else
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: besttime on May 13, 2020, 05:32:45 PM
Hi all was wondering if anyone can help me. My wife's office is open and technically letting their employees work from home or come into the office. Even if she would go to work there isn't much to do there, it could be she wouldn't be able to work too many hours anyway since most of the businesses she works with are shut down. The other thing is that we have 2 kids at home an I am working full time.

I was wondering if it would be smarter to file unemployment as if my wife got laid off (or reduced hours etc.), or should we just put on the application that she cant work because of the kids being home? Is there a practical difference between these 2 options?

TIA
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 05:40:43 PM
https://www.nj.gov/labor/lwdhome/press/2020/20200429_puapayments.shtml

Looks like NJ is indeed following this practice of first administering minimum benefits, and then scaling from there.
Thank you.

There seems to be discrepancy there regarding when the payments begin.
"Claimants will receive payments retroactive to when they filed their unemployment claim."
"PUA claims will be backdated to the date you first became eligible, so you won’t lose any benefits. The first week of potential eligibility is the week ending February 8, 2020."
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 06:01:04 PM
Hi all was wondering if anyone can help me. My wife's office is open and technically letting their employees work from home or come into the office. Even if she would go to work there isn't much to do there, it could be she wouldn't be able to work too many hours anyway since most of the businesses she works with are shut down. The other thing is that we have 2 kids at home an I am working full time.

I was wondering if it would be smarter to file unemployment as if my wife got laid off (or reduced hours etc.), or should we just put on the application that she cant work because of the kids being home? Is there a practical difference between these 2 options?

TIA

Yes.
If her boss offers her hours she must accept if she does not file with the provision that she is caring for kids at home due to a school closure.
If she files that she is unemployed solely due to the fact that she is caring for kids at home she is not obligated to pick up any hours her boss offers until school is back in session.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 06:29:55 PM
There seems to be discrepancy there regarding when the payments begin.
"Claimants will receive payments retroactive to when they filed their unemployment claim."
"PUA claims will be backdated to the date you first became eligible, so you won’t lose any benefits. The first week of potential eligibility is the week ending February 8, 2020."
Was hoping to hear cgr's professional opinion on this.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 07:01:32 PM
Thank you.

There seems to be discrepancy there regarding when the payments begin.
"Claimants will receive payments retroactive to when they filed their unemployment claim."
"PUA claims will be backdated to the date you first became eligible, so you won’t lose any benefits. The first week of potential eligibility is the week ending February 8, 2020."

No discrepancy. You're supposed to put your last date of employment on your application, and your claims will then be backdated to that date.
PUA applicants who were previously not eligible are eligible to put in a retroactive date as early as 02/02/2020 as per the link below. (They write 2/8 on the link above but it's the same thing- that week runs from 2/2-2/8.)
(https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/assets/pdfs/CARES_FFRCA.pdf)

As an aside:
If you were laid off as early as 2/2 and see no possibility of being rehired before 7/31 (or 1/31/21 if the new bill passes) you can file claims for any 39 weeks that include 3/28-7/31 as those weeks include a supplemental payment of $600. You're under no obligation to file for unemployment when you are laid off, so you have some leeway on the dates of the 39 weeks you choose. In NJ you have the extra leeway of job search requirements which allow you to answer "yes" if you are waiting to be recalled to your present job, or you are delaying your job search until the natural emergency ends or subsides.
https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/covidinstructions.shtml
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 13, 2020, 07:10:16 PM
Why does PUA go back so much further than the supplemental $600 for regular UI?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 07:19:44 PM
No discrepancy. You're supposed to put your last date of employment on your application, and your claims will then be backdated to that date.
PUA applicants who were previously not eligible are eligible to put in a retroactive date as early as 02/02/2020 as per the link below. (They write 2/8 on the link above but it's the same thing- that week runs from 2/2-2/8.)
(https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/assets/pdfs/CARES_FFRCA.pdf)
Not sure what you mean.
Let's say someone stopped working 3/18 but filed a claim on 3/29 - according to the first quote he will get benefits only from 3/29 while according to the second quote he will get benefits from 3/18 which is another week & a half.
Am I wrong in my understanding of those two quotes?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: besttime on May 13, 2020, 07:20:54 PM
Yes.
If her boss offers her hours she must accept if she does not file with the provision that she is caring for kids at home due to a school closure.
If she files that she is unemployed solely due to the fact that she is caring for kids at home she is not obligated to pick up any hours her boss offers until school is back in session.

Thank you! Would this also make a difference in terms of how quickly her claim would be accepted in NYC?

I heard PUI is tougher to get accepted for than the regular UI nowadays because of all the claims being filed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 07:31:13 PM
Not sure what you mean.
Let's say someone stopped working 3/18 but filed a claim on 3/29 - according to the first quote he will get benefits only from 3/29 while according to the second quote he will get benefits from 3/18 which is another week & a half.
Am I wrong in my understanding of those two quotes?

My understanding is that "when they filed their unemployment claim" is not defined as the date they actually filed, but as the date as of when they filed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 07:38:17 PM
Thank you! Would this also make a difference in terms of how quickly her claim would be accepted in NYC?

I heard PUI is tougher to get accepted for than the regular UI nowadays because of all the claims being filed.

Here's the issue that people who want the childcare exemption are experiencing in NY:
Since she has W2 wages the state will put her on regular UI (can take as fast as 1-2 business days to process such a claim) no questions asked. On regular UI you are not eligible to stay home and care for kids if your current employer offers you your hours back.
The state won't automatically extend the option of filing for PUA to her, since she's not SE/1099.

According to federal law if she has no other childcare options she's eligible for PUA- the only way to get that done is by actually talking to someone (I'm not sure if they give you a childcare exemption on standard UI or actually switch you to PUA) but regardless, good luck getting someone on the phone...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 13, 2020, 07:42:15 PM
FWIW, when they ask you how many days you are "ready, willing, and able to work", they explain that if you are not able, but would be if not for covid, you can answer as if you were able. They don't say what to do about the "were you offered a job" question, though.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 13, 2020, 08:08:20 PM
 NYS Department of Labor
 @labor.ny.gov
Dear

New York State Department of Labor has sent you this form because you may be eligible for unemployment benefits for previous weeks. Please note that in order to receive any back-week unemployment benefits, you must accurately complete and return this form. 

This form will display certain weeks that you may be eligible to receive unemployment benefits. In order to receive the weekly unemployment benefits due to you, please select ‘I was eligible’ or ‘I was not eligible’ for each week that you were eligible. You may be asked to provide additional documentation at a later date.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO:
1.        Please click the 'Review Document' button below to view the form
2.        Review the requirements to confirm your eligibility
3.        Please select ‘I was eligible’ or ‘I was not eligible’ for each week displayed
4.        Sign the secure form and input any required information
5.        Click the 'Finish' button to submit

Thank you.

This is a secure correspondence intended for the named recipient.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 09:48:40 PM
My understanding is that "when they filed their unemployment claim" is not defined as the date they actually filed, but as the date as of when they filed.
I would hope you're right but it's kind of hard to read that into the words.
Also, everyone I asked who received benefits has only received retroactive to the week of 4/4 but not from their date of unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 09:49:22 PM
Why does PUA go back so much further than the supplemental $600 for regular UI?
When does the supplemental $600 start from?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 09:57:20 PM
When does the supplemental $600 start from?
Depends on the state (when their week begins and ends) official dates are 3/27-7/31. For most states that's translates as 3/29-7/25
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 10:00:18 PM
I would hope you're right but it's kind of hard to read that into the words.
Also, everyone I asked who received benefits has only received retroactive to the week of 4/4 but not from their date of unemployment.

There's some documentation on that just need to find it. Will post it when I have a minute.

Regarding retroactive benefits I wouldn't be surprised if it takes them a while to process or roll out a system... NY only got around to it this week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 10:27:32 PM
Depends on the state (when their week begins and ends) official dates are 3/27-7/31. For most states that's translates as 3/29-7/25
So, to be clear - the 60% (for us in NJ) is retroactive to the date of unemployment but the supplemental $600 is only retroactive to (roughly) the beginning of April?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 13, 2020, 10:28:42 PM
So, to be clear - the 60% (for us in NJ) is retroactive to the date of unemployment but the supplemental $600 is only retroactive to (roughly) the beginning of April?
That's how it seems.

Does anyone know anyone who has received $ for the backdated portion of their UI?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 10:29:19 PM
There's some documentation on that just need to find it. Will post it when I have a minute.
Please do. Thank you.

Regarding retroactive benefits I wouldn't be surprised if it takes them a while to process or roll out a system... NY only got around to it this week.
What's odd is that they are anyway paying retroactive to the date of filing so why not go back a little further to the date of unemployment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 13, 2020, 10:30:51 PM
What's odd is that they are anyway paying retroactive to the date of filing so why not go back a little further to the date of unemployment.
+1
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 10:46:08 PM
What's odd is that they are anyway paying retroactive to the date of filing so why not go back a little further to the date of unemployment.

In NJ, do you certify for all weeks from when you file?
If you do, that's because the system is set up that you can usually only claim from when you file. Now because of the pandemic that's not the case, but they don't have a system in place for certifications pre-filing date. They have to create it or come up with something.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 13, 2020, 11:21:03 PM
In NJ, do you certify for all weeks from when you file?
If you do, that's because the system is set up that you can usually only claim from when you file. Now because of the pandemic that's not the case, but they don't have a system in place for certifications pre-filing date. They have to create it or come up with something.
Interesting point.
And do you believe that only the 60% (for us in NJ) is retroactive to the date of unemployment but the supplemental $600 is retroactive only to (roughly) the beginning of April?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 13, 2020, 11:48:27 PM
Interesting point.
And do you believe that only the 60% (for us in NJ) is retroactive to the date of unemployment but the supplemental $600 is retroactive only to (roughly) the beginning of April?

There is never $600 FPUC before “roughly the beginning of April” regardless of when you became unemployed. This is a matter of fact, not belief.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 14, 2020, 07:16:28 AM
A glimpse at the other side:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/millions-are-calling-about-unemployment-claims-what-its-like-to-be-on-the-other-end-of-the-call-11589448601
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shulem92 on May 14, 2020, 09:45:53 AM
wow!! even with nj's "new" system, where they only let literally 104 SSN's certify in the same half hour, their site kept crashing and i wasn't able to certify. seriously NJ? 104 people and your site crashes??
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 14, 2020, 09:49:10 AM
Is there a minimum of self employment income one must have to qualify for unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 14, 2020, 09:53:44 AM
There is never $600 FPUC before “roughly the beginning of April” regardless of when you became unemployed. This is a matter of fact, not belief.
So, only the PUA (60% in NJ) is retroactive to the date of unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: grodnoking on May 14, 2020, 09:53:55 AM
Is there a minimum of self employment income one must have to qualify for unemployment?
I originally thought so, but I filed for PUA in NY and I got accepted with me stating what my net income on my last filed tax statement was, which was a tiny amount, and I got accepted.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 10:03:21 AM
I originally thought so, but I filed for PUA in NY and I got accepted with me stating what my net income on my last filed tax statement was, which was a tiny amount, and I got accepted.

Thanks. Good news for someone I’m helping. What is your weekly benefit determination?

My understanding is: UI - same limitations as always, maybe just waiving the waiting week.
PUA - 1099, limited work history possibly acceptable, no minimum for hours, broad eligibility.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:13:17 AM
Is there a minimum of self employment income one must have to qualify for unemployment?

Normally, states have minimum income requirements for UI. CARES Act clearly states that anyone not meeting those requirements is eligible for PUA. I'm not sure what that means- what if I earned $10 am I eligible?
Regardless, they don't penalize you for applying for UI so you can always try.

Here's the official text if you're interested in the legalities:
https://wdr.doleta.gov/directives/attach/UIPL/UIPL_16-20_acc.pdf
The PUA WBA is equal to the WBA authorized under state UC law where the individual was employed. In no case will the amount be less than the minimum WBA described in 20 C.F.R 625.6. For individuals without reported wages sufficient to establish a WBA, the WBA will be calculated according to processes for DUA benefits set out in 20 C.F.R. 625.6.

Now for 20 C.F.R. 625.6:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/20/625.6#b
If the weekly amount computed under paragraph (a) of this section is less than 50 percent of the average weekly payment of regular compensation in the State, as provided quarterly by the Department, or, if the individual has insufficient wages from employment or insufficient or no net income from self-employment (which includes individuals falling within paragraphs (a)(3) and (b)(3) of § 625.5) in the applicable base period to compute a weekly amount under paragraph (a) of this section, the individual shall be determined entitled to a weekly amount equal to 50 percent of the average weekly payment of regular compensation in the State.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:19:16 AM
So, only the PUA (60% in NJ) is retroactive to the date of unemployment?

Correct.

Here's the link you wanted to see:
html: https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/covidFAQ.shtml
PDF: https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/assets/pdfs/NJWorkersFAQs.pdf
Quote from: myunemployment.nj.gov
11. I’m having web and/or phone issues with the Unemployment system. What’s going on?
NJ’s Unemployment Insurance system is experiencing record levels of demand due to coronavirus and all in-person services statewide are currently closed due to COVID-19. Some people cannot get through online or on the phone. We understand your anxiety and frustration, and we apologize. We’re working diligently to serve all our customers and ask for your patience. Please keep trying. We’re committed to ensuring that everyone receives their benefits during this crisis. You will not lose a day’s benefits as all claims will be backdated to your first day of employment loss.

You don't lose the $600/weekly on backdated claims either, but they only backdate as far as 3/29.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 10:24:40 AM


Very informative. So in NY, hypothetically speaking, if you earn just over the standard threshold for the minimum income ($2,600/quarter) you get 25%, but if you earn just below it you get 50%?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: grodnoking on May 14, 2020, 10:26:30 AM
Thanks. Good news for someone I’m helping. What is your weekly benefit determination?

My understanding is: UI - same limitations as always, maybe just waiving the waiting week.
PUA - 1099, limited work history possibly acceptable, no minimum for hours, broad eligibility.
They didn't require me to show my 1099, and my benefit is 182+600. Not sure why 182, because that's more than I was making a week before.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 10:27:58 AM
They didn't require me to show my 1099, and my benefit is 182+600. Not sure why 182, because that's more than I was making a week before.

$182 is the minimum.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:28:50 AM
Very informative. So in NY, hypothetically speaking, if you earn just over the standard threshold for the minimum income ($2,600/quarter) you get 25%, but if you earn just below it you get 50%?

It's like that in every single state.
Example NY- minimum PUA benefit $182, minimum UI benefit $104
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 10:32:27 AM
It's like that in every single state.
Example NY- minimum PUA benefit $182, minimum UI benefit $104

$182 is 50% of what? The average weekly payment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:33:25 AM
$182 is 50% of what? The average weekly payment?

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/pdfs/ui-covid-faq.pdf
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 14, 2020, 10:34:29 AM
Now for 20 C.F.R. 625.6:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/20/625.6#b
If the weekly amount computed under paragraph (a) of this section is less than 50 percent of the average weekly payment of regular compensation in the State, as provided quarterly by the Department, or, if the individual has insufficient wages from employment or insufficient or no net income from self-employment (which includes individuals falling within paragraphs (a)(3) and (b)(3) of § 625.5) in the applicable base period to compute a weekly amount under paragraph (a) of this section, the individual shall be determined entitled to a weekly amount equal to 50 percent of the average weekly payment of regular compensation in the State.


So if you write $0 as the reported income on the schedule C you receive $182?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:35:08 AM
So if you write $0 as the reported income on the schedule C you receive $182?

could be a loss as well, not just $0.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 14, 2020, 10:35:50 AM
could be a loss as well, not just $0.

Do you need any proof that you worked?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:37:12 AM
Do you need any proof that you worked?

Not sure how you would have a Schedule C if you didn't. Schedule C isn't passive income.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 14, 2020, 10:38:25 AM
Not sure how you would have a Schedule C if you didn't. Schedule C isn't passive income.

What if you don't have a schedule C?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:39:16 AM
What if you don't have a schedule C?

If you're a new business submit a business plan and a P&L of what you have so far.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 10:39:32 AM
They didn't require me to show my 1099, and my benefit is 182+600. Not sure why 182, because that's more than I was making a week before.

What did they require other than your self-certification?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 14, 2020, 10:39:38 AM
It's like that in every single state.
Example NY- minimum PUA benefit $182, minimum UI benefit $104

I'm confused. What's the difference between reg UI, PUA & FPUC?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 14, 2020, 10:41:26 AM
If you're a new business submit a business plan and a P&L of what you have so far.

So I leave the income for schedule C as $0?
Where do I indicate that it's a new business?
Is there any minimum work or income requirements for this new business?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:42:57 AM
Do you need any proof that you worked?

Obviously there are people gaming the system. I've heard (not firsthand) that a bunch of bochurim applied for PUA saying that they landed a job and were unable to start working... I'm assuming there will be audits and they will find themselves in trouble.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:44:27 AM
I'm confused. What's the difference between reg UI, PUA & FPUC?

Reg UI- W2 wages in the last 12-18 months
PUA- Self Employment/ 1099 income or insufficient W2 income
FPUC- Supplemental $600/weekly for weeks with an Unemployment payment between 3/28-7/31
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 10:44:57 AM
I'm confused. What's the difference between reg UI, PUA & FPUC?

UI - standard unemployment we always had for W2 employees.
PUA - expanded COVID unemployment for people who don’t qualify for UI
FPUC - an extra $600/week for anyone who gets UI or PUA from April through July (roughly)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:48:48 AM
So I leave the income for schedule C as $0?
If you're a new business started in 2020 you don't have Schedule C income in 2019.

Where do I indicate that it's a new business?

Chances are you'll get a $0 benefit determination and you'll need to send in the reconsideration form with your business plan & P&L

Is there any minimum work or income requirements for this new business?

Haven't seen anything as to the work requirement, but I'm assuming it's like regular UI where you need to have lost a chunk of your hours (I think about 20%) to qualify for UI. Like I said before there doesn't seem to be much in terms of income requirements.


If you're asking these questions legitimately, kol hakavod.
If you're using these to game the system, please don't involve me.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 14, 2020, 10:52:26 AM
Thank you @cgr and @AsherO , this helps. First day of employment was 12/23/19, so don't have 1 complete quarter. Under these circumstances, I wouldn't qualify for reg UI, but may qualify for PUA, correct? Is the PUA a given or is there a chance I might not be approved?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:55:32 AM
Thank you @cgr and @AsherO , this helps. First day of employment was 12/23/19, so don't have 1 complete quarter. Under these circumstances, I wouldn't qualify for reg UI, but may qualify for PUA, correct? Is the PUA a given or is there a chance I might not be approved?

You should be good.
Based on what I've seen you'll get a $0 determination because they'll try to put you on reg UI but you'll have insufficient wages. You'll need to send in the reconsideration (you can reach out to me for details) and then you'll get PUA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 14, 2020, 10:56:15 AM
If you're a new business started in 2020 you don't have Schedule C income in 2019.

Chances are you'll get a $0 benefit determination and you'll need to send in the reconsideration form with your business plan & P&L

Haven't seen anything as to the work requirement, but I'm assuming it's like regular UI where you need to have lost a chunk of your hours (I think about 20%) to qualify for UI. Like I said before there doesn't seem to be much in terms of income requirements.


If you're asking these questions legitimately, kol hakavod.
If you're using these to game the system, please don't involve me.

Thanks for all the info.
A part time business that was just started in Feb, was picking up.
Is there a amount of days per week requirement?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 11:00:07 AM
Afaf again, last week I asked for her also.


: If I applied thru pandemic unemployed assistance (PUA) and not thru regular UI, do I still need to fill out a regular UI application?
[5/13, 3:50 PM] : And after filling out PUA application it said submitted and now a full day later it still just says submitted.... hasn't updated to anything else
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 11:00:33 AM
Afaf again, last week I asked for her also.


: If I applied thru pandemic unemployed assistance (PUA) and not thru regular UI, do I still need to fill out a regular UI application?
[5/13, 3:50 PM] : And after filling out PUA application it said submitted and now a full day later it still just says submitted.... hasn't updated to anything else
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: grodnoking on May 14, 2020, 11:04:02 AM
What did they require other than your self-certification?
I did not need to send anything in.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 11:13:26 AM
I did not need to send anything in.

Let me guess:
1. You spoke to someone by phone.
2. All the funds you expected are already in your account?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 11:15:39 AM
Thanks for all the info.
A part time business that was just started in Feb, was picking up.
Is there a amount of days per week requirement?

I haven't seen that anywhere as a guideline in NY- if anyone has please point it out.
In NY previously you had to earn a certain amount of wages in previous quarters to be eligible, and to be able to certify a claim you had to work 3 days or less and earn $504 or less.

Now, with PUA in the picture it pretty much qualifies anyone who doesn't qualify for standard UI but had some sort of employment.

My suggestion is that you should apply and answer all the questions honestly. If they ask for income but no hours, provide that. If they ask for hours then be honest there as well.

If you get a $0 benefit determination go ahead with the reconsideration because many are getting that for lack of W2 wages- not because they don't qualify for PUA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 11:16:50 AM
Afaf again, last week I asked for her also.


: If I applied thru pandemic unemployed assistance (PUA) and not thru regular UI, do I still need to fill out a regular UI application?
[5/13, 3:50 PM] : And after filling out PUA application it said submitted and now a full day later it still just says submitted.... hasn't updated to anything else

Please advise which state you're applying in.

Regardless, a day in today's days is nothing. PUA applications routinely take weeks to process.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 11:26:24 AM
Please advise which state you're applying in.

Regardless, a day in today's days is nothing. PUA applications routinely take weeks to process.
Sorry , NY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: grodnoking on May 14, 2020, 11:51:01 AM
Let me guess:
1. You spoke to someone by phone.
2. All the funds you expected are already in your account?
1. Yes.
2. Not in my account yet, but listed on website as paid to debit card (which I did not receive yet, and even thou I registered to DD).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 14, 2020, 12:06:53 PM
11. I’m having web and/or phone issues with the Unemployment system. What’s going on?
NJ’s Unemployment Insurance system is experiencing record levels of demand due to coronavirus and all in-person services statewide are currently closed due to COVID-19. Some people cannot get through online or on the phone. We understand your anxiety and frustration, and we apologize. We’re working diligently to serve all our customers and ask for your patience. Please keep trying. We’re committed to ensuring that everyone receives their benefits during this crisis. You will not lose a day’s benefits as all claims will be backdated to your first day of employment loss.
Thank you for your response above (by now two pages back!).
But you have to admit that the line you bolded sounds like even the PUA ($600) is retroactive to date of unemployment, as it doesn't differentiate between PUA & FPUC.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 12:17:58 PM
Thank you for your response above (by now two pages back!).
But you have to admit that the line you bolded sounds like even the PUA ($600) is retroactive to date of unemployment, as it doesn't differentiate between PUA & FPUC.

FPUC is the $600.
PUA is self-employment UI.

PUA is retroactive to date of unemployment as far back as 2/2.
FPUC only exists from 3/29-7/31. There's no way around this unless they change the law in the new bill and extend it further.

Just like PUA won't be backdated further back than 2/2, FPUC won't be backdated to claims prior to 3/29.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 12:18:56 PM
Sorry , NY

Wait a week at least before getting worried. PUA applications can take a while to process.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 14, 2020, 12:22:58 PM
Hi to all,

Last I saw, NY Unemployment had the company info and amount earned without having to enter it. I am trying to help someone over the phone.. he says it didn't show the company info and it is asking him for amount earned on his last tax return. Is he in wrong thing? He didn't file 2019 and 2018 he was not working... so should the number be 0?

I'm not sure if he is mistakenly filing for PUA or they changed the system..
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 12:31:03 PM
Hi to all,

Last I saw, NY Unemployment had the company info and amount earned without having to enter it. I am trying to help someone over the phone.. he says it didn't show the company info and it is asking him for amount earned on his last tax return. Is he in wrong thing? He didn't file 2019 and 2018 he was not working... so should the number be 0?

I'm not sure if he is mistakenly filing for PUA or they changed the system..

Is he aiming for standard UI (W2 wages above the threshold for 2019) or PUA (self-employed/1099)?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 14, 2020, 12:44:10 PM
I would say (W2 wages above the threshold for 2019) Whats the threshold?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
I would say (W2 wages above the threshold for 2019) Whats the threshold?

https://www.labor.ny.gov/formsdocs/factsheets/pdfs/p832.pdf
For claims filed in 2019, you must have been paid at least $2,400 in one calendar quarter (this amount increases to $2,600 for claims filed in 2020)

In NY there's only one initial application regardless if you end up on standard UI or PUA.
If they're not picking up his employer automatically make sure he entered his SS # correctly. If he did then just manually put in their info (EIN can be found on his W2).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 14, 2020, 12:59:56 PM
He qualifies. Thanks for the response.

I see you have been very active on this thread. Much appreciated! Helping people at no charge = great Mitzvah!!
Follow my lead and like a post from cgr on this thread!!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 01:26:55 PM
He qualifies. Thanks for the response.

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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 14, 2020, 01:46:37 PM
After filing UI in New York is there anything I need to do other than wait to get a call or an email from the state?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 01:47:37 PM
After filing UI in New York is there anything I need to do other than wait to get a call or an email from the state?

Check your account to see if you can certify (Unemployment Services> Certify). They don't always tell you that your application has processed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 01:50:42 PM
Wait a week at least before getting worried. PUA applications can take a while to process.
What about the 1st part of question, she seems to have applied for pua and not regular UI,
Should she also be applying for UI?

I thought the app was streamlined to include both...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 01:54:00 PM
What about the 1st part of question, she seems to have applied for pua and not regular UI,
Should she also be applying for UI?

I thought the app was streamlined to include both...

It is. If they need more info to get you on PUA they send you a dedicated PUA link. Otherwise it's the same application for all.
Why do you think she completed PUA?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 14, 2020, 02:16:45 PM
Unemployment Insurance Benefits Online

You may not use this system because you have only partially completed your claim for unemployment insurance benefits.
To complete your claim, you must call our Telephone Claims Center at 1-888-209-8124.


Do I really need to call?
Any way to get them on the phone?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 02:19:26 PM
It is. If they need more info to get you on PUA they send you a dedicated PUA link. Otherwise it's the same application for all.
Why do you think she completed PUA?
I think she went from dol website and accidentally applied for pua instead of standard UI.
She is a regular employee that should have applied for UI.

Should I just tell her to fill out the 10 step application for UI?
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ellen on May 14, 2020, 02:52:07 PM
I apologize if this was asked before; if yes, maybe somebody can direct me to the correct post.
I was out of work from mid-March until late April. Recently started working again for about 2 hours a day 3-4 times a week.
Anyone know if i qualify? Also, where can i contact DOL to get backpay for the 6 weeks I was home? Does that time qualify?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 02:56:58 PM
I think she went from dol website and accidentally applied for pua instead of standard UI.
She is a regular employee that should have applied for UI.

Should I just tell her to fill out the 10 step application for UI?
Thanks again.

I don't think that's possible as there isn't a PUA link out there to apply to.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 14, 2020, 03:00:10 PM
I don't think that's possible as there isn't a PUA link out there to apply to.
I also applied, and when I was done I noticed it was PUA.
 "Thank you for submitting your Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) claim with the New York State Department of Labor.
 If necessary, a Department of Labor representative will contact you to complete your claim. You do not need to contact the Department of Labor – we will contact you at the number that is listed on your claim. To confirm that the caller is from the Department of Labor, the representative will verify the date you filed your claim."
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 03:03:47 PM
I apologize if this was asked before; if yes, maybe somebody can direct me to the correct post.
I was out of work from mid-March until late April. Recently started working again for about 2 hours a day 3-4 times a week.
Anyone know if i qualify? Also, where can i contact DOL to get backpay for the 6 weeks I was home? Does that time qualify?

Assuming NY
If you worked FT til mid-March you should qualify:

Definitely mid-March until late April. When you file a claim be sure to enter that date in mid-March as your last day worked so that you can file retroactively for all weeks. They'll contact you after your claim is filed for retroactive claims.

For partial work from late April you will only qualify for the weeks where you earned less than $504 and worked 3 days or less. For every day you work your benefit rate gets cut by 25%, but the $600 supplemental remains a flat rate.
If you're eligible for some weeks only based on the above, certify a) either for those weeks only or b) for all weeks and they'll compute when you are eligible and when you're not.
Any weeks that you certify and are ineligible your Benefit Days Available won't be decreased. (Or if you're eligible for 1,2, or 3 days only you'll only receive a partial deduction instead of the usual 4 days). This means you'll be able to be on UI longer as your days and total amount available will be deducted over a longer period of time. If they extend the $600 FPUC past 7/31 you'll be a real winner (assuming you're still able to claim partial unemployment then.)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 03:04:34 PM
I also applied, and when I was done I noticed it was PUA.
 "Thank you for submitting your Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) claim with the New York State Department of Labor.
 If necessary, a Department of Labor representative will contact you to complete your claim. You do not need to contact the Department of Labor – we will contact you at the number that is listed on your claim. To confirm that the caller is from the Department of Labor, the representative will verify the date you filed your claim."

I believe this is if you complete the second section after the regular UI claim section. They only look at it if you don't qualify for regular UI.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 14, 2020, 03:08:38 PM
I believe this is if you complete the second section after the regular UI claim section. They only look at it if you don't qualify for regular UI.
I didn't see a second section.
but I think I dont qualify for regular UI since I didn't work for 2 quarters.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 14, 2020, 03:16:27 PM
Assuming NY
If you worked FT til mid-March you should qualify:

Definitely mid-March until late April. When you file a claim be sure to enter that date in mid-March as your last day worked so that you can file retroactively for all weeks. They'll contact you after your claim is filed for retroactive claims.


I have a similar situation. I'm trying to file UI retroactive for 2 weeks, but I'm currently working (PPP).
Do I need to certify now, probably no as I'm getting paid? But how will I get the money for those back days
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 03:30:59 PM
I don't think that's possible as there isn't a PUA link out there to apply to.
Not sure what she did but it does look like she would be able to apply on ui site under unemployment services. It doesn't show any app status.
But from dol site it does show the exact message "ah gitten" just posted.

It was very odd when I was helping her yesterday.

I think she should just try and apply for UI.
Any issue with that?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 14, 2020, 03:47:49 PM
I don't think that's possible as there isn't a PUA link out there to apply to.
I didn't see a second section.
but I think I dont qualify for regular UI since I didn't work for 2 quarters.


First I wanted to say thank you @cgr

I too didnt apply for reg ui,
On the ny.gov site i went to "get unemployment assistance" I hit file and submitted the application. at the end it said thank you for submitting your pua. i didnt need to put in any employee/income info

should i go back and file the reg ui - if i can find it?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 03:48:12 PM
Not sure what she did but it does look like she would be able to apply on ui site under unemployment services. It doesn't show any app status.
But from dol site it does show the exact message "ah gitten" just posted.

It was very odd when I was helping her yesterday.

I think she should just try and apply for UI.
Any issue with that?

This is the link for everyone in NY: https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/login
If she can apply through here let her do so, but if it tells her she already did she's good.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 03:50:00 PM
I have a similar situation. I'm trying to file UI retroactive for 2 weeks, but I'm currently working (PPP).
Do I need to certify now, probably no as I'm getting paid? But how will I get the money for those back days

Every week that it certifies it tells you which dates it is for. If you can't certify for those dates you currently have on our certification application don't (or certify and get rejected- same thing).
They're starting to send out DocuSigns for missing certifications from weeks past, so keep an eye out on our email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ellen on May 14, 2020, 03:50:07 PM
Assuming NY
If you worked FT til mid-March you should qualify:

Definitely mid-March until late April. When you file a claim be sure to enter that date in mid-March as your last day worked so that you can file retroactively for all weeks. They'll contact you after your claim is filed for retroactive claims.

For partial work from late April you will only qualify for the weeks where you earned less than $504 and worked 3 days or less. For every day you work your benefit rate gets cut by 25%, but the $600 supplemental remains a flat rate.
If you're eligible for some weeks only based on the above, certify a) either for those weeks only or b) for all weeks and they'll compute when you are eligible and when you're not.
Any weeks that you certify and are ineligible your Benefit Days Available won't be decreased. (Or if you're eligible for 1,2, or 3 days only you'll only receive a partial deduction instead of the usual 4 days). This means you'll be able to be on UI longer as your days and total amount available will be deducted over a longer period of time. If they extend the $600 FPUC past 7/31 you'll be a real winner (assuming you're still able to claim partial unemployment then.)

Thank you so much for your response. And you guessed correct for NY :)
So how do i start the initial claim? The first question is, "How many days did you work this week?" and "When was last day worked?"
Do i answer that question assuming they mean "work FULL TIME"? Because currently i am working minimal hours...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 03:51:53 PM
Thank you so much for your response. And you guessed correct for NY :)
So how do i start the initial claim? The first question is, "How many days did you work this week?" and "When was last day worked?"
Do i answer that question assuming they mean "work FULL TIME"? Because currently i am working minimal hours...

Answer the first question honestly.
Last day worked enter your last FT date of employment (that date in Mid-March)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 14, 2020, 03:57:50 PM
I originally thought so, but I filed for PUA in NY and I got accepted with me stating what my net income on my last filed tax statement was, which was a tiny amount, and I got accepted.

Like how tiny?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 14, 2020, 04:00:14 PM
FPUC is the $600.
PUA is self-employment UI.

PUA is retroactive to date of unemployment as far back as 2/2.
FPUC only exists from 3/29-7/31. There's no way around this unless they change the law in the new bill and extend it further.

Just like PUA won't be backdated further back than 2/2, FPUC won't be backdated to claims prior to 3/29.
Thanks for correcting my mistake.
In the meantime we have received the minimum PUA for NJ ($231) retroactive only to the date the claim was filed - instead of to the date of unemployment, and no FPUC at all. :(
Hopefully, it will come through at some point as it doesn't seem like there is anything to do at this point.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 04:02:33 PM
First I wanted to say thank you @cgr

I too didnt apply for reg ui,
On the ny.gov site i went to "get unemployment assistance" I hit file and submitted the application. at the end it said thank you for submitting your pua. i didnt need to put in any employee/income info

should i go back and file the reg ui - if i can find it?
This is probably what happened to my friend. @cgr
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 04:05:28 PM
This is probably what happened to my friend. @cgr

Did you check what happens when she tries this?
This is the link for everyone in NY: https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/login
If she can apply through here let her do so, but if it tells her she already did she's good.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 14, 2020, 04:10:36 PM
I applied and was told I need to call to finish the application.

Can I let it wait till the call center eases up a bit or is there a need to get this application completed ASAP?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 04:16:23 PM
I applied and was told I need to call to finish the application.

Can I let it wait till the call center eases up a bit or is there a need to get this application completed ASAP?

You basically have no choice but to wait, there’s no way to speak to someone there unless they call you (from a blocked number).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 14, 2020, 04:17:18 PM
Did you check what happens when she tries this?
She gets this message...

Submission Confirmed

Submitted: 5/12/20, 8:05 AM

Thank you for submitting your Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) claim with the New York State Department of Labor.
If necessary, a Department of Labor representative will contact you to complete your claim. You do not need to contact the Department of Labor – we will contact you at the number that is listed on your claim. To confirm that the caller is from the Department of Labor, the representative will verify the date you filed your claim.

*IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ AND PRINT THIS PAGE FOR YOUR RECORDS*

Continue to Certify for Weekly Benefits

You must claim weekly benefits for each week you are unemployed and meet the eligibility requirements. This is also called “certifying for benefits.” You can start claiming as soon as you submit your application, and every week following, even as you wait for confirmation that you have been approved. Go towww.labor.ny.gov/signin.
During this process, you are confirming that you were unemployed for all or part of the past week and that you met all other conditions of receiving benefits.
See more information about certifying for weekly benefits.
Please Note: If you created an NY.gov account with the Department of Labor for the first time when you filed your claim, or if you reused an older Department of Labor account, please continue to use that account when you sign in to certify for benefits.

Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 14, 2020, 04:30:08 PM
same here
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 14, 2020, 04:31:40 PM
She gets this message...

Submission Confirmed

Submitted: 5/12/20, 8:05 AM

Thank you for submitting your Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) claim with the New York State Department of Labor.
If necessary, a Department of Labor representative will contact you to complete your claim. You do not need to contact the Department of Labor – we will contact you at the number that is listed on your claim. To confirm that the caller is from the Department of Labor, the representative will verify the date you filed your claim.

*IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ AND PRINT THIS PAGE FOR YOUR RECORDS*

Continue to Certify for Weekly Benefits

You must claim weekly benefits for each week you are unemployed and meet the eligibility requirements. This is also called “certifying for benefits.” You can start claiming as soon as you submit your application, and every week following, even as you wait for confirmation that you have been approved. Go towww.labor.ny.gov/signin.
During this process, you are confirming that you were unemployed for all or part of the past week and that you met all other conditions of receiving benefits.
See more information about certifying for weekly benefits.
Please Note: If you created an NY.gov account with the Department of Labor for the first time when you filed your claim, or if you reused an older Department of Labor account, please continue to use that account when you sign in to certify for benefits.
same
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ellen on May 14, 2020, 04:34:21 PM
Answer the first question honestly.
Last day worked enter your last FT date of employment (that date in Mid-March)
That doesnt seem to work. Getting this message:
Cannot claim at this time
Your application for unemployment insurance benefits cannot be processed because you indicated you worked during the current week, but the date you entered as your last day worked is in a prior week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 04:49:58 PM
She gets this message...

Submission Confirmed

Submitted: 5/12/20, 8:05 AM

Thank you for submitting your Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) claim with the New York State Department of Labor.
If necessary, a Department of Labor representative will contact you to complete your claim. You do not need to contact the Department of Labor – we will contact you at the number that is listed on your claim. To confirm that the caller is from the Department of Labor, the representative will verify the date you filed your claim.

*IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ AND PRINT THIS PAGE FOR YOUR RECORDS*

Continue to Certify for Weekly Benefits

You must claim weekly benefits for each week you are unemployed and meet the eligibility requirements. This is also called “certifying for benefits.” You can start claiming as soon as you submit your application, and every week following, even as you wait for confirmation that you have been approved. Go towww.labor.ny.gov/signin.
During this process, you are confirming that you were unemployed for all or part of the past week and that you met all other conditions of receiving benefits.
See more information about certifying for weekly benefits.
Please Note: If you created an NY.gov account with the Department of Labor for the first time when you filed your claim, or if you reused an older Department of Labor account, please continue to use that account when you sign in to certify for benefits.

I think she should be good. Legally they're supposed to put someone on standard UI and only if deemed ineligible will they be put on PUA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
That doesnt seem to work. Getting this message:
Cannot claim at this time
Your application for unemployment insurance benefits cannot be processed because you indicated you worked during the current week, but the date you entered as your last day worked is in a prior week.


Log out and log back in. For some reason that magically fixes the issue.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 14, 2020, 04:55:50 PM
I think she should be good. Legally they're supposed to put someone on standard UI and only if deemed ineligible will they be put on PUA.

if so, the question is, why go through the long process if can take the shortcut?
Since they dont ask for w2 info, Im assuming they give the minimum + 600. Second question then, how much should you have made last quarter that it would pay to out in the info in the reg ui application?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 05:01:12 PM
if so, the question is, why go through the long process if can take the shortcut?
Since they dont ask for w2 info, Im assuming they give the minimum + 600. Second question then, how much should you have made last quarter that it would pay to out in the info in the reg ui application?

They have the W2 info from taxes filed. They only ask for it if they can't locate.

You can only put in info if they ask for it. You might be able to file for reconsideration if you have additional 1099 income (and they only picked up on your W2 income), but I doubt they'll consider it, as they're supposed to keep you on regular UI instead of PUA if possible.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 05:02:51 PM
For those of you looking for in depth UI info, check out the link in my signature below.
Includes NY, NJ, and others.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 14, 2020, 05:04:23 PM
They have the W2 info from taxes filed. They only ask for it if they can't locate.

You can only put in info if they ask for it. You might be able to file for reconsideration if you have additional 1099 income (and they only picked up on your W2 income), but I doubt they'll consider it, as they're supposed to keep you on regular UI instead of PUA if possible.
but if they're accepting pua applications right away, does that mean they will look for w2 themselves and not just give the minimum?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 05:07:01 PM
but if they're accepting pua applications right away, does that mean they will look for w2 themselves and not just give the minimum?

Yes. Otherwise you'll get a $0 benefit determination and you'll need to submit a reconsideration.

I have a feeling all those who are receiving the PUA notice but filed based on W2 wages completed the second optional part. They include that to let applicants submit information in advance so you don't need to wait for them to reach out to you. They look at the first section first anyway so chances are the DOL will never even take the second part into account.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 14, 2020, 05:10:16 PM
im not sure what you're referring to first option/second option.
If you google ny unemployment it takes you to straight to unemployment assistance, and they only give you 1 application to do. The pua app.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
im not sure what you're referring to first option/second option.
If you google ny unemployment it takes you to straight to unemployment assistance, and they only give you 1 application to do. The pua app.

They don't consider that the PUA application. They consider it a "streamlined application" which basically asks for all info they can need, and based on that they determine which program you go on.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 14, 2020, 05:19:48 PM
its much less detailed than the reg ui - i think. I only did the the beginning of the reg ui
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: grodnoking on May 14, 2020, 05:20:38 PM
Like how tiny?
1,112
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Luvisrael on May 14, 2020, 06:40:00 PM
So I have an interesting scenario. Someone worked for a company, than quit and moved onto another job that happened to have been off the books. A few months later started with a 3rd job and got laid off due to Covid-19. When this person filed for UI, it went back to the first employer and will presumably affect their tax rates. How can this be rectified?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 06:44:05 PM
So odd.

Today I got a letter from the DOL dated 4/24/2020 asking me to submit identity verification documents (passport, state ID, SS card etc) within 10 days of mailing date of the letter (it arrived 20 days after the date it’s dated) or my claim will be denied. Meanwhile my claim is approved since they mailed the letter. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 06:44:52 PM
So I have an interesting scenario. Someone worked for a company, than quit and moved onto another job that happened to have been off the books. A few months later started with a 3rd job and got laid off due to Covid-19. When this person filed for UI, it went back to the first employer and will presumably affect their tax rates. How can this be rectified?

That's how it works. All employers of the last 18 months contribute toward the pool. I believe the most recent one is most adversely affected and contributes the largest %.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: menachemd1 on May 14, 2020, 06:46:59 PM
So odd.

Today I got a letter from the DOL dated 4/24/2020 asking me to submit identity verification documents (passport, state ID, SS card etc) within 10 days of mailing date of the letter (it arrived 20 days after the date it’s dated) or my claim will be denied. Meanwhile my claim is approved since they mailed the letter. Hmmm.
Same here, but not approved yet :(
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 14, 2020, 06:50:02 PM
So odd.

Today I got a letter from the DOL dated 4/24/2020 asking me to submit identity verification documents (passport, state ID, SS card etc) within 10 days of mailing date of the letter (it arrived 20 days after the date it’s dated) or my claim will be denied. Meanwhile my claim is approved since they mailed the letter. Hmmm.
Which state?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Luvisrael on May 14, 2020, 06:52:31 PM
That's how it works. All employers of the last 18 months contribute toward the pool. I believe the most recent one is most adversely affected and contributes the largest %.
can the middle employer retroactively “claim” employer-ship for this?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 06:53:44 PM
Which state?

NY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 06:56:12 PM
can the middle employer retroactively “claim” employer-ship for this?

If he was paid off the books? I guess if he's looking for a lawsuit right now he can take a shot at it...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 06:59:14 PM
?s=19
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 07:02:24 PM
NJ light at the end of the tunnel?

?s=19
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 14, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
NJ light at the end of the tunnel?

?s=19
I saw that. Maybe. Hopefully.
So far, every single person I know has some sort of issue.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 07:07:37 PM
NJ light at the end of the tunnel?

?s=19

Gimmick. How many of these 139k are funded? If not yet, when will they be?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 07:10:24 PM
Gimmick. How many of these 139k are funded? If not yet, when will they be?

are being made newly eligible in other words, they aren't yet.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 07:12:48 PM
are being made newly eligible in other words, they aren't yet.

I have no idea what that means, do you?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 07:17:06 PM
I have no idea what that means, do you?

Not precisely but this part I got:
This includes 82K claims that may have been pending for weeks due to non-monetary appointments, SSN issues, and those stuck due to lingering certification response errors.

To me it seems to allude to action that will be taken not "we managed to get 140k applications resolved and processed"
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 14, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
Not precisely but this part I got:
This includes 82K claims that may have been pending for weeks due to non-monetary appointments, SSN issues, and those stuck due to lingering certification response errors.

To me it seems to allude to action that will be taken not "we managed to get 140k applications resolved and processed"

Meaning the tweet is a gimmick. They’re taking credit when the needle hasn’t moved.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 07:26:05 PM
Meaning the tweet is a gimmick. They’re taking credit when the needle hasn’t moved.
Oh for sure. I'm just hopeful that it indicates movement in the next few days.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: davidjw0914 on May 14, 2020, 07:35:10 PM
In the end o got 2 letters showing I can collect one claim was for 3/16 filed on 3/21 and one was for 3/16 claim filed on 5/1
What do I do
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YesThatsMe on May 14, 2020, 07:45:23 PM
In NJ, what does the email from e-Adjudication look like?

DW filed 5/4, and it went to WBR of $0 on 5/11, and have heard nothing from Labor at all. I am ok with waiting, but what is the process like at this point, can someone who had this chime in please?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 07:52:05 PM
In the end o got 2 letters showing I can collect one claim was for 3/16 filed on 3/21 and one was for 3/16 claim filed on 5/1
What do I do
Wonder how they made that mistake... if the 3/16 let's you claim all the retroactive weeks you'll get your cash faster that way.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 14, 2020, 08:01:41 PM
In NJ, what does the email from e-Adjudication look like?

DW filed 5/4, and it went to WBR of $0 on 5/11, and have heard nothing from Labor at all. I am ok with waiting, but what is the process like at this point, can someone who had this chime in please?
Subject was "New Jersey Unemployment - Unresolved Issues On Your Claim" for both emails that I received.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: S209 on May 14, 2020, 08:08:36 PM
In NJ, what does the email from e-Adjudication look like?

DW filed 5/4, and it went to WBR of $0 on 5/11, and have heard nothing from Labor at all. I am ok with waiting, but what is the process like at this point, can someone who had this chime in please?
It comes the day after the claim is filed IME
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 14, 2020, 08:25:36 PM
In NJ, what does the email from e-Adjudication look like?

DW filed 5/4, and it went to WBR of $0 on 5/11, and have heard nothing from Labor at all. I am ok with waiting, but what is the process like at this point, can someone who had this chime in please?
IME, I never got an e-adjudication email.
After waiting for weeks we got an email that the claim is now payable with a link to a form.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 14, 2020, 08:53:36 PM
A college professor who had been teaching Spring Semester classes was assigned to teach Sumner classes but they were cancelled due to the virus. When does she apply? When Spring 2020 ends (and she is now unemployed) or when the Summer semester would have started...?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 14, 2020, 09:25:58 PM
Is there a dedicated thread discussing

Families First Coronavirus Response Act: Employer Paid Leave Requirements

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 09:32:35 PM
A college professor who had been teaching Spring Semester classes was assigned to teach Sumner classes but they were cancelled due to the virus. When does she apply? When Spring 2020 ends (and she is now unemployed) or when the Summer semester would have started...?

Does she usually get paid for the break?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 09:43:09 PM
Assuming NY
If you worked FT til mid-March you should qualify:

Definitely mid-March until late April. When you file a claim be sure to enter that date in mid-March as your last day worked so that you can file retroactively for all weeks. They'll contact you after your claim is filed for retroactive claims.

For partial work from late April you will only qualify for the weeks where you earned less than $504 and worked 3 days or less. For every day you work your benefit rate gets cut by 25%, but the $600 supplemental remains a flat rate.
If you're eligible for some weeks only based on the above, certify a) either for those weeks only or b) for all weeks and they'll compute when you are eligible and when you're not.
Any weeks that you certify and are ineligible your Benefit Days Available won't be decreased. (Or if you're eligible for 1,2, or 3 days only you'll only receive a partial deduction instead of the usual 4 days). This means you'll be able to be on UI longer as your days and total amount available will be deducted over a longer period of time. If they extend the $600 FPUC past 7/31 you'll be a real winner (assuming you're still able to claim partial unemployment then.)

Follow up question to my post above:
In NY if you file a partial unemployment certification, and your benefit days and benefit amount is only deducted based on how much you claimed for that week so if someone files a claim steadily where they worked 2 days a week, then only 2 days and 50% of their benefit rate is deducted from their balance, and they can stay on UI for 52 weeks instead of the usual 26.

PEUC is billed as a 13 week extension to those exhausted their regular benefits.
PUA is billed as unemployment for those who usually don't qualify with a maximum of 39 weeks.

Now for the question:
Does someone on partial unemployment at 50% as used in the example above qualify for 26 weeks of the extension? And for more than 39 weeks of PUA (PUA only runs from 2/2-12/26 so I won't assume they can stay on for double time)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Palm5 on May 14, 2020, 09:47:22 PM
Anyone miss the e-adjudication form and can’t access and now is in limbo? Can’t get a hold of anyone and form expired what do I do?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Palm5 on May 14, 2020, 09:47:38 PM
Anyone miss the e-adjudication form and can’t access and now is in limbo? Can’t get a hold of anyone and form expired what do I do?
New Jersey
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 14, 2020, 10:00:46 PM
It comes the day after the claim is filed IME
I'm curious to what your DP are, me and a lot of other people I know haven't heard anything back yet. It's been weeks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 14, 2020, 10:04:41 PM
Does she usually get paid for the break?
No.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:20:46 PM
No.

Looks like she can file from when the semester ends. See below.

https://www.jobs.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/unemployment-guidance-for-teachers-and-other-school-employees.shtm
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 14, 2020, 10:24:13 PM
Looks like she can file from when the semester ends. See below.

https://www.jobs.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/unemployment-guidance-for-teachers-and-other-school-employees.shtm
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 14, 2020, 10:26:38 PM
Thanks so much!

You're welcome. Read the link though. It has some nuances.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 14, 2020, 10:58:00 PM
I'm curious to what your DP are, me and a lot of other people I know haven't heard anything back yet. It's been weeks.
IME = in my experience, so thats his DP.

I had same thing fyi.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 14, 2020, 11:24:20 PM
IME = in my experience, so thats his DP.

I had same thing fyi.
The way he wrote the sentence "It comes the day after the claim is filed IME" implies that in general it happens that way.

But you're right, He did right IME.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Palm5 on May 14, 2020, 11:24:31 PM
New Jersey

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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 15, 2020, 01:14:14 AM
You basically have no choice but to wait, there’s no way to speak to someone there unless they call you (from a blocked number).
Make sure you have the right number. Keep calling... I called about 20 times and got the message that they have too many callers and got disconnected. Finally got through and the rep was very helpful. Once got through was a 2 hour wait on hold..
Best to try first thing in the morning 7AM.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 15, 2020, 09:27:41 AM
Make sure you have the right number. Keep calling... I called about 20 times and got the message that they have too many callers and got disconnected. Finally got through and the rep was very helpful. Once got through was a 2 hour wait on hold..
Best to try first thing in the morning 7AM.

This is as of when? None of the menu options at (888) 209-8124‬ even bring me to a point where I hear that they have too many callers. I used to hear that in early April, now it just sends me to their website.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 15, 2020, 10:30:26 AM
This is as of when? None of the menu options at (888) 209-8124‬ even bring me to a point where I hear that they have too many callers. I used to hear that in early April, now it just sends me to their website.

Yesterday I got to the point where I hear that they have too many callers and was cut off
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 15, 2020, 10:30:56 AM
This is as of when? None of the menu options at (888) 209-8124‬ even bring me to a point where I hear that they have too many callers. I used to hear that in early April, now it just sends me to their website.
My experience was about two or three weeks ago. I don't remember the exact number but one of the numbers I called gave me a diff number to call after I hit all the menu options.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 15, 2020, 10:35:01 AM
I've been helping two people with their unemployment filing.
Person 1: Self employed, his account finally shows an amount that he will make per week but does not show the 600. Will that come in?
Person 2: Was laid off at the end of March. His boss put him on a different company payroll for three weeks somewhere between then and now. Should he put in end of March date and just certify that he worked during those three weeks?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 10:42:42 AM
I've been helping two people with their unemployment filing.
Person 1: Self employed, his account finally shows an amount that he will make per week but does not show the 600. Will that come in?
Person 2: Was laid off at the end of March. His boss put him on a different company payroll for three weeks somewhere between then and now. Should he put in end of March date and just certify that he worked during those three weeks?

Thanks!

Person 2: Yes. Since he'll file his application as of his original layoff date the new employer won't be included in the employment of the last 18 months.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 15, 2020, 10:57:02 AM
Person 1: Self employed, his account finally shows an amount that he will make per week but does not show the 600. Will that come in?
If he's in NJ then he's in the same boat as all of us.
They finally started giving self-employed filers the minimum $231 per week but not the $600.
No one seems to know when they'll be giving the $600.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 11:16:26 AM
Follow up question to my post above:
In NY if you file a partial unemployment certification, and your benefit days and benefit amount is only deducted based on how much you claimed for that week so if someone files a claim steadily where they worked 2 days a week, then only 2 days and 50% of their benefit rate is deducted from their balance, and they can stay on UI for 52 weeks instead of the usual 26.

PEUC is billed as a 13 week extension to those exhausted their regular benefits.
PUA is billed as unemployment for those who usually don't qualify with a maximum of 39 weeks.

Now for the question:
Does someone on partial unemployment at 50% as used in the example above qualify for 26 weeks of the extension? And for more than 39 weeks of PUA (PUA only runs from 2/2-12/26 so I won't assume they can stay on for double time)

Anyone here on PUA and only filing partial certifications who can have a look at their account for me to verify this?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 15, 2020, 11:20:49 AM
If he's in NJ then he's in the same boat as all of us.
They finally started giving self-employed filers the minimum $231 per week but not the $600.
No one seems to know when they'll be giving the $600.
He is in NY. He is getting more than 231. I guess NY has a higher max. Makes up for the +$200 max for NJ over NY with standard unemployment :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 11:27:54 AM
He is in NY. He is getting more than 231. I guess NY has a higher max. Makes up for the +$200 max for NJ over NY with standard unemployment :)


It's like that in every single state.
Example NY- minimum PUA benefit $182, minimum UI benefit $104

In the link in my signature I actually wrote up details of PUA minimums and state UI maximums.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 15, 2020, 11:31:10 AM
He is getting more than double 231 as per his online account. Hasn't received anything yet.
Applied for UI a few weeks ago, got a PUA message a few days ago and completed form. Today the number showed up by his Weekly Benefit Amount:

Example NY- minimum PUA benefit $182, minimum UI benefit $104_Assuming you mean 504
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 15, 2020, 11:42:48 AM
Is there a minimum amount of weeks going forward I need to file for unemployment to get the weeks I missed since March 24th? (Assuming it started around that time.)

 Meaning if I didn't file till now, and I just found out the employer whom I work for got approved for a loan and will be paying more than I would get with unemployment so I'll be put on his payroll let's say on Sunday or Monday.

   Is one day (today) enough to apply and sign up for unemployment to get for all weeks and then not certify for unemployment for the future ?

Thanks.


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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 11:43:11 AM
He is getting more than double 231 as per his online account. Hasn't received anything yet.
Applied for UI a few weeks ago, got a PUA message a few days ago and completed form. Today the number showed up by his Weekly Benefit Amount:

Example NY- minimum PUA benefit $182, minimum UI benefit $104_Assuming you mean 504

No. I mean regular UI minimum is $104, while minimum PUA is $182. Both have a maximum of $504.
In NY they're a bit better with determining rates. They're not giving everyone the min and then hoping to readjust eventually, they're paying you based on your previously reported income.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 11:44:39 AM
Is there a minimum amount of weeks going forward I need to file for unemployment to get the weeks I missed since March 24th? (Assuming it started around that time.)

 Meaning if I didn't file till now, and I just found out the employer whom I work for got approved for a loan and will be paying more than I would get with unemployment so I'll be put on his payroll let's say on Sunday or Monday.

   Is one day (today) enough to apply and sign up for unemployment to get for all weeks and then not certify for unemployment for the future ?

Thanks.

You can apply even if you already got your job back. Just put in that original layoff date on your application, and when asked if working now answer truthfully. You won't get the option to certify backdated claims right away, but they'll reach out to you and give it to you eventually.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 15, 2020, 11:47:26 AM
You can apply even if you already got your job back. Just put in that original layoff date on your application, and when asked if working now answer truthfully. You won't get the option to certify backdated claims right away, but they'll reach out to you and give it to you eventually.
If I write I'm not working, as today I'm not working will I get the option to back date the claims?

 while if I wait till Monday then in fact I'll be on the payroll so I won't be able to say I'm not working.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 15, 2020, 11:49:53 AM
No. I mean regular UI minimum is $104, while minimum PUA is $182. Both have a maximum of $504.
In NY they're a bit better with determining rates. They're not giving everyone the min and then hoping to readjust eventually, they're paying you based on your previously reported income.
Got it. I read ae123 and your posts wrong. Was looking at it as max not minimum.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
If I write I'm not working, as today I'm not working will I get the option to back date the claims?

You won't get the option today. Eventually they'll reach out to you and tell you that your claim was filed as of 3/24 (or whatever the date is that you put in on your application) and that you're missing certifications from that date up until 5/10 (assuming you file today and certify on the spot for the week ending 5/17).

You'll get your funds eventually, don't worry.
You won't get them today.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 15, 2020, 11:52:38 AM
You won't get the option today. Eventually they'll reach out to you and tell you that your claim was filed as of 3/24 (or whatever the date is that you put in on your application) and that you're missing certifications from that date up until 5/10 (assuming you file today and certify on the spot for the week ending 5/17).

You'll get your funds eventually, don't worry.
You won't get them today.
Thanks will try in a bit and hope it works.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 11:52:41 AM
while if I wait till Monday then in fact I'll be on the payroll so I won't be able to say I'm not working.

If you file today you can certify for the week ending in 5/17. If you file Monday you won't be able to until you get the option for backdated filings, and you'll get an error that you're trying to file while working so you'll need to log in and log back out.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 15, 2020, 11:55:03 AM
If you file today you can certify for the week ending in 5/17. If you file Monday you won't be able to until you get the option for backdated filings, and you'll get an error that you're trying to file while working so you'll need to log in and log back out.
Then I guess I won't wait and will try for today to fill out the form.

 And like I saw above thread someplace its the same application as someone who is self employed? As that's the only form I filled out for a family member. Meaning same q ?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 11:56:44 AM
Then I guess I won't wait and will try for today to fill out the form.

 And like I saw above thread someplace its the same application as someone who is self employed? As that's the only form I filled out for a family member. Meaning same q ?


This is the link for everyone in NY: https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/login
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 15, 2020, 02:08:24 PM
Hooray just received this from NJ. Submitted early April, responded to questionairre next day, responded to second questionairre earlier this week.

Subject: Your claim is now eligible for payment of Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA)

You are also eligible for an additional $600 per week through Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (FPUC).

On Saturday, May 16th, the first day to certify for your benefits, please carefully follow the instructions below. There are multiple steps you will need to complete in one sitting. One set of questions will ask about your coronavirus pandemic-related need for unemployment assistance. A second set of questions certifies your weekly employment situation. You will have to answer the second set of questions for each week of benefits you claim.

Answering these weekly certification questions differently than described in the instructions will delay payment.

Review the coronavirus-specific instructions on how to answer the questions to certify for your benefits. Print out these instructions or keep the webpage open as you work through the questions.
Locate the exact half-hour timeslot on Saturday, May 16th that you are permitted to access the certifying system. Click on the "down arrow" on the "Saturday" box.
Login at your specific time on Saturday, May 16th through the link that says "Certify for Weekly Benefits." The process must be completed all at once.
Answer the questions on the PUA Self-Certification Page about your coronavirus-related situation.
Read and acknowledge the warning against unemployment fraud.
Review the instructions for certification for benefits. Again, print out these instructions or keep the webpage open as you certify.
Answer the certifying questions. Submit.
If the "Claim Additional Week" button appears in the center-bottom of the confirmation screen, click the button and complete a certification for each week available on your claim. There may be multiple weeks available to you, which would allow you to receive multiple weeks of benefits.
Continue to click on "Claim Additional Week" until that button no longer appears after answering the certifying questions.
 

Once you certify for benefits, you should receive payment by Wednesday May 20.  You will also receive a separate payment for Pandemic Unemployment Compensation of $600 per week for each week for which you certified. You should receive those payments by Tuesday, May 26. 

If you miss your scheduled certification time window on your scheduled day, you will be able to certify later the same day from 4:00-7:00 during your timeslot. If you miss your time on Saturday, you will be able to claim all weeks available to you during the week of Sunday May 17, according to the published schedule.

Please check back each Saturday evening as the schedule is subject to change to ensure a balanced load on the system.  Beginning Sunday May 17, you should continue to certify weekly for benefits according to the weekly schedule for each week you remain unemployed.

Three tips to ensure timely payment: 


Certify beginning Saturday, May 16, according to the schedule on our website. 


Answer the questions according to the instructions to avoid delaying your payment. 


Certify for each week available on your claim.
Check the weekly schedule on Saturday evenings and certify during your timeslot to keep yourself paid up to date.
Thank you for your patience as we expand unemployment assistance eligibility to meet your needs.

Division of Unemployment Insurance

New Jersey Department of Labor
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 15, 2020, 03:23:25 PM
Hooray just received this from NJ. Submitted early April, responded to questionairre next day, responded to second questionairre earlier this week.

Subject: Your claim is now eligible for payment of Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA)

You are also eligible for an additional $600 per week through Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (FPUC).

On Saturday, May 16th, the first day to certify for your benefits, please carefully follow the instructions below. There are multiple steps you will need to complete in one sitting. One set of questions will ask about your coronavirus pandemic-related need for unemployment assistance. A second set of questions certifies your weekly employment situation. You will have to answer the second set of questions for each week of benefits you claim.

Answering these weekly certification questions differently than described in the instructions will delay payment.

Review the coronavirus-specific instructions on how to answer the questions to certify for your benefits. Print out these instructions or keep the webpage open as you work through the questions.
Locate the exact half-hour timeslot on Saturday, May 16th that you are permitted to access the certifying system. Click on the "down arrow" on the "Saturday" box.
Login at your specific time on Saturday, May 16th through the link that says "Certify for Weekly Benefits." The process must be completed all at once.
Answer the questions on the PUA Self-Certification Page about your coronavirus-related situation.
Read and acknowledge the warning against unemployment fraud.
Review the instructions for certification for benefits. Again, print out these instructions or keep the webpage open as you certify.
Answer the certifying questions. Submit.
If the "Claim Additional Week" button appears in the center-bottom of the confirmation screen, click the button and complete a certification for each week available on your claim. There may be multiple weeks available to you, which would allow you to receive multiple weeks of benefits.
Continue to click on "Claim Additional Week" until that button no longer appears after answering the certifying questions.
 

Once you certify for benefits, you should receive payment by Wednesday May 20.  You will also receive a separate payment for Pandemic Unemployment Compensation of $600 per week for each week for which you certified. You should receive those payments by Tuesday, May 26. 

If you miss your scheduled certification time window on your scheduled day, you will be able to certify later the same day from 4:00-7:00 during your timeslot. If you miss your time on Saturday, you will be able to claim all weeks available to you during the week of Sunday May 17, according to the published schedule.

Please check back each Saturday evening as the schedule is subject to change to ensure a balanced load on the system.  Beginning Sunday May 17, you should continue to certify weekly for benefits according to the weekly schedule for each week you remain unemployed.

Three tips to ensure timely payment: 


Certify beginning Saturday, May 16, according to the schedule on our website. 


Answer the questions according to the instructions to avoid delaying your payment. 


Certify for each week available on your claim.
Check the weekly schedule on Saturday evenings and certify during your timeslot to keep yourself paid up to date.
Thank you for your patience as we expand unemployment assistance eligibility to meet your needs.

Division of Unemployment Insurance

New Jersey Department of Labor
Don't count your chickens just yet.
We got the exact same email a week ago and as I wrote above - 1) we only received the minimum $231 for PUA, 2) it was retroactive to the date of filing not the date of unemployment - which was 1 1/2 weeks earlier, 3) & we didn't receive any of the FPUC $600 a week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 15, 2020, 03:25:28 PM
AFAF: Does anyone know if semi-passive income like filling an occasional order from a website would count as 'work' when certifying for that week? (NY)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Let3 on May 15, 2020, 03:32:05 PM
If someone lives in NJ and works in NY - does s/he get the unemployment benefits for ny or nj?
What are the limits in ny vs nj?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 15, 2020, 03:39:31 PM
If someone lives in NJ and works in NY - does s/he get the unemployment benefits for ny or nj?
What are the limits in ny vs nj?
NY. It's based on where you worked. (If someone worked in both they can choose where to file, and NJ would be a better choice as it pays a higher percentage)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 15, 2020, 03:42:19 PM
If someone lives in NJ and works in NY - does s/he get the unemployment benefits for ny or nj?
What are the limits in ny vs nj?
I believe you file where you worked. 99.7% sure.
NY has a max of 504 while NJ has a max of about 714 as far as i’m concerned.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 15, 2020, 03:43:46 PM
The standard UI is higher in NJ than NY. I don't know about the numbers for self-employed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Let3 on May 15, 2020, 03:48:23 PM
Thanks.
How much is the minimum hours reduction to qualify for unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 03:58:46 PM
Thanks.
How much is the minimum hours reduction to qualify for unemployment?

NY- no min hours. You need to work less 3 days or less and earn less than $504.

NJ- 20% hours cut and you must earn less than your WBR.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
AFAF: Does anyone know if semi-passive income like filling an occasional order from a website would count as 'work' when certifying for that week? (NY)

I think it does. You can file a partial claim.
The reason I think it does is because they include favors as one of the things that could disqualify you...

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#28
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 15, 2020, 04:50:48 PM
Don't count your chickens just yet.
We got the exact same email a week ago and as I wrote above - 1) we only received the minimum $231 for PUA, 2) it was retroactive to the date of filing not the date of unemployment - which was 1 1/2 weeks earlier, 3) & we didn't receive any of the FPUC $600 a week.
+1

-$3000
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 15, 2020, 05:11:49 PM
I think it does. You can file a partial claim.
The reason I think it does is because they include favors as one of the things that could disqualify you...

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#28
TY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 15, 2020, 05:26:36 PM
Don't count your chickens just yet.
We got the exact same email a week ago and as I wrote above - 1) we only received the minimum $231 for PUA, 2) it was retroactive to the date of filing not the date of unemployment - which was 1 1/2 weeks earlier, 3) & we didn't receive any of the FPUC $600 a week.
Im just happy to get the approval after weeks of silence. They'll get the $ right at some point.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 05:41:20 PM
Thank you @cgr for all your efforts on behalf of everyone here. If anyone would like to show her appreciation, click here:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=ZJYQXNG59C4NU&currency_code=USD&amount=18&source=url

For the record, she has no idea that I am posting this.

Thank you to all of you who contributed! I would send each of you a personal thanks but some of your DDF names are clearly miles from reality so no way for me to figure out who to thank :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Thechy on May 15, 2020, 06:25:42 PM
"Normally, states have minimum income requirements for UI. CARES Act clearly states that anyone not meeting those requirements is eligible for PUA. I'm not sure what that means- what if I earned $10 am I eligible?"

Any more info, data points, or guidance on this? 

NJ

Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 06:40:03 PM
I think it does. You can file a partial claim.
The reason I think it does is because they include favors as one of the things that could disqualify you...

https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#28

Here's a better link with details.
https://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/claimantinfo/beforeyouapplyfaq.shtm#25
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 15, 2020, 06:49:37 PM
Whether for UI or the stimulus check, is there a threshold I have to be below to be eligible?

   The only thing I see is for the stimulus,
Quote
A1. U.S. citizens and U.S. resident aliens will receive the Economic Impact Payment of $1,200 for individual or head of household filers, and $2,400 for married filing jointly if they are not a dependent of another taxpayer and have a work eligible Social Security number with adjusted gross income up to:

$75,000 for individuals if their filing status was single or married filing separately
$112,500 for head of household filers and
$150,000 for married couples filing joint returns



  I almost thought the cap was at a lower amount? Or what was the 12k and 24k I was seeing somewhere? 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 07:08:06 PM
Whether for UI or the stimulus check, is there a threshold I have to be below to be eligible?

   The only thing I see is for the stimulus,

  I almost thought the cap was at a lower amount? Or what was the 12k and 24k I was seeing somewhere?

For UI you need to have lost your income (you may be allowed to earn a little depending on the state.) Prior income does not invalidate you.

The 12k and 24k is for non-filers who don't have to file a tax return and need to register for their Stimulus Payment instead.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 15, 2020, 07:12:34 PM
For UI you need to have lost your income (you may be allowed to earn a little depending on the state.) Prior income does not invalidate you.

The 12k and 24k is for non-filers who don't have to file a tax return and need to register for their Stimulus Payment instead.
Gotch ya! Thanks a ton, and have a great shabbos.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 15, 2020, 07:16:32 PM

https://dol.ny.gov/unemployment/unemployment-insurance-assistance

 This links works better for some odd reason, while the other link pulls me to file a new application.

https://applications.labor.ny.gov/IndividualReg/?TYPE=33554433&REALMOID=06-b0d30d94-a224-104a-b476-839b26b50cb3&GUID=&SMAUTHREASON=0&METHOD=GET&SMAGENTNAME=$SM$ThT5WVUR1XkGiy4UhP34jv09ppEYsY5V%2b%2bhuQYmYxeVseon5yi64QNm3b%2fN7fNeC&TARGET=$SM$HTTPS%3a%2f%2fapplications%2elabor%2eny%2egov%2fIndividual%2f (https://applications.labor.ny.gov/IndividualReg/?TYPE=33554433&REALMOID=06-b0d30d94-a224-104a-b476-839b26b50cb3&GUID=&SMAUTHREASON=0&METHOD=GET&SMAGENTNAME=$SM$ThT5WVUR1XkGiy4UhP34jv09ppEYsY5V%2b%2bhuQYmYxeVseon5yi64QNm3b%2fN7fNeC&TARGET=$SM$HTTPS%3a%2f%2fapplications%2elabor%2eny%2egov%2fIndividual%2f)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 15, 2020, 07:23:25 PM
https://dol.ny.gov/unemployment/unemployment-insurance-assistance

 This links works better for some odd reason, while the other link pulls me to file a new application.

https://applications.labor.ny.gov/IndividualReg/?TYPE=33554433&REALMOID=06-b0d30d94-a224-104a-b476-839b26b50cb3&GUID=&SMAUTHREASON=0&METHOD=GET&SMAGENTNAME=$SM$ThT5WVUR1XkGiy4UhP34jv09ppEYsY5V%2b%2bhuQYmYxeVseon5yi64QNm3b%2fN7fNeC&TARGET=$SM$HTTPS%3a%2f%2fapplications%2elabor%2eny%2egov%2fIndividual%2f (https://applications.labor.ny.gov/IndividualReg/?TYPE=33554433&REALMOID=06-b0d30d94-a224-104a-b476-839b26b50cb3&GUID=&SMAUTHREASON=0&METHOD=GET&SMAGENTNAME=$SM$ThT5WVUR1XkGiy4UhP34jv09ppEYsY5V%2b%2bhuQYmYxeVseon5yi64QNm3b%2fN7fNeC&TARGET=$SM$HTTPS%3a%2f%2fapplications%2elabor%2eny%2egov%2fIndividual%2f)

The link you're quoting is the one for new applications.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: av83 on May 16, 2020, 10:42:07 PM
NJ unemployment: My boss put me on unpaid furlough back in March I aplied for unemployment and got a letter stating I am being denied

"You are Disqualified for benefits from 3/29 and will continue to be disqualified until you have worked eight or more weeks in employment and have earned at least ten times your weekly benefit rate.

You Left work Voluntarily on 3/31/20"


I must have filled out something wrong on the application so I appealed and am having an appeal hearing this week. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions for me? I dont really have any way to prove my case.....
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 16, 2020, 11:37:05 PM
NJ unemployment: My boss put me on unpaid furlough back in March I aplied for unemployment and got a letter stating I am being denied

"You are Disqualified for benefits from 3/29 and will continue to be disqualified until you have worked eight or more weeks in employment and have earned at least ten times your weekly benefit rate.

You Left work Voluntarily on 3/31/20"


I must have filled out something wrong on the application so I appealed and am having an appeal hearing this week. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions for me? I dont really have any way to prove my case.....

Based on this it looks like you were disqualified due to either a) not having sufficient work history in which case you should be able to make a case to go on PUA or b) having exhausted your benefits and not having had sufficient employment since then to qualify for a new claim in which case you should be able to get at least 13 additional weeks (PEUC)
Do any of these scenarios make sense based on your case?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: av83 on May 16, 2020, 11:47:59 PM
No. I think I mistakenly wrote that I left to care for my kids which is also true but I was furloughed- my place of employment closed up.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: 4yourinfo on May 16, 2020, 11:50:35 PM
I sent a letter to NJ unemployment asking if they can retroactively give me unemployment from the date of being unemployed as apposed to the filing date  - I got a letter that they are denying my request they wrote I failed to report for the weeks claimed. I sent them that I want to appeal - any ideas what to say or do?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 16, 2020, 11:56:00 PM
No. I think I mistakenly wrote that I left to care for my kids which is also true but I was furloughed- my place of employment closed up.

Their response is odd on two counts:
1) they note that you don't have sufficient employment to qualify
2) they write that you left voluntarily. Perhaps your boss responded wrongly when asked if he laid you off?

I think you'll need to hear them out to see what they think is the issue.
Keep in mind:
If your boss laid you off he owes you UI- no way around it
If you left because of childcare they should put you on PUA- not sure if they figured out how to do that but as far as you're concerned you're eligible. Make sure to stand your ground. Offer to bring proof that the CARES Act allows you to go on PUA if you need to stay home for childcare (shouldn't be necessary if you've been furloughed but here it is: https://www.dol.gov/coronavirus/unemployment-insurance.)
If for some reason they don't have all your wages on file offer to send them proof of past wages, and as a side note mention that you should be eligible for PUA with minimal wages as well.

You should be able to refute pretty much anything they throw at you.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: troner100 on May 17, 2020, 01:56:27 AM
how do i go about changing from full unemployment to partial unemployment? (starting to work a few hours every week)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 17, 2020, 01:58:15 AM
how do i go about changing from full unemployment to partial unemployment? (starting to work a few hours every week)

Change how you certify?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: troner100 on May 17, 2020, 02:24:17 AM
Change how you certify?
They won’t make me reapply and go through the whole process again?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Joel2 on May 17, 2020, 02:29:10 AM
They won’t make me reapply and go through the whole process again?
No just enter the amount of days you worked
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 02:29:16 AM
They won’t make me reapply and go through the whole process again?

No. That's the whole idea of weekly certifications. To see if you worked or not.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 17, 2020, 08:02:59 AM
Oh no
this week in NJ (May 10) the lower numbers ssn(last 4) were to re certify on Sunday for unemployment benefits and only make up day is on Saturday.  What do we do? did we miss this weeks payment and Saturday is well off limits for most of us!

See new scehdule for this week, first slot is today, 8-8:30 AM.
Last slot is Friday 6:30-7 PM, no early shabbos for those guys!

https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: bk73 on May 17, 2020, 09:45:44 AM
Hi,
Does anybody know if I took a PPP loan on my self employed business with 1099
Can I file for unemployment from a different business that I'm an employee at get paid with regular w2 )?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on May 17, 2020, 10:09:27 AM
Hi,
Does anybody know if I took a PPP loan on my self employed business with 1099
Can I file for unemployment from a different business that I'm an employee at get paid with regular w2 )?
The PPP loan is so you can remain employed / paid at the 1099 business, no?
That should disqualify you from regular (W2) unemployment.

But PPP is only for 8 weeks, so you can possibly collect regular unemployment after that time, if still out of work at the W2 job.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Let3 on May 17, 2020, 10:19:48 AM
Is the $600 taxable?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: grodnoking on May 17, 2020, 10:22:29 AM
Is the $600 taxable?
Yes
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 11:30:31 AM
Hi,
Does anybody know if I took a PPP loan on my self employed business with 1099
Can I file for unemployment from a different business that I'm an employee at get paid with regular w2 )?

Depending on the state you're located in, if the 1099 8/52 forgiveness fits with the state's partial claims rules, you should be fine.
Example: Your 8/52 is less than $504/weekly and you'r working less than 3 days in NY you can file for partial UI.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 11:31:03 AM
The PPP loan is so you can remain employed / paid at the 1099 business, no?
That should disqualify you from regular (W2) unemployment.

But PPP is only for 8 weeks, so you can possibly collect regular unemployment after that time, if still out of work at the W2 job.

It doesn't disqualify him if it fits with the partial UI laws in the state.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ephcc90 on May 17, 2020, 01:39:27 PM
I just graduated law school and am trying to figure out (a) if I’m eligible for UI and if so (b) what state I should file in.

I currently live in MA until June when I move to NJ.

I worked last summer as a summer associate at a NYC firm and plan on working there full time at some point in the fall/winter. My start date has been postponed due to Covid-19.

Additionally, I now have kids home from school if that matters.

Any help or guidance is much appreciated.
 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 01:45:53 PM
I just graduated law school and am trying to figure out (a) if I’m eligible for UI and if so (b) what state I should file in.

I currently live in MA until June when I move to NJ.

I worked last summer as a summer associate at a NYC firm and plan on working there full time at some point in the fall/winter. My start date has been postponed due to Covid-19.

Additionally, I now have kids home from school if that matters.

Any help or guidance is much appreciated.

Do you have an offer of employment along with a start date?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ephcc90 on May 17, 2020, 02:16:53 PM
Do you have an offer of employment along with a start date?
I have an offer letter giving us a choice of two start dates and a subsequent email stating they will have to postpone both dates.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 17, 2020, 02:18:50 PM
See new scehdule for this week, first slot is today, 8-8:30 AM.
Last slot is Friday 6:30-7 PM, no early shabbos for those guys!

https://myunemployment.nj.gov/labor/myunemployment/schedule.shtml
Is this new for this week? Or the same "new" one as last week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ari3 on May 17, 2020, 02:33:55 PM
Is this new for this week? Or the same "new" one as last week.
New for this week. They keep changing it so that there are less people per 1/2 hour slot so the system won't get overloaded.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 17, 2020, 02:35:34 PM
New for this week. They keep changing it so that there are less people per 1/2 hour slot so the system won't get overloaded.
Can you imagine if you could only shop at Amazon for a half hour a day? :o
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 03:44:46 PM
I have an offer letter giving us a choice of two start dates and a subsequent email stating they will have to postpone both dates.

That's perfect. Classic example of someone who should be eligible for PUA with no prior employment.
If your place of employment was going to be NY, apply in NY.
When asked for proof or prior income, include your employment letter as well as the postponement letter. I'm assuming your PUA rate will be based on your negotiated salary stated on the letter.
I'm not sure as of what date you would be eligible for PUA, but perhaps that first start date listed on the letter.
Title: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ephcc90 on May 17, 2020, 03:59:53 PM
That's perfect. Classic example of someone who should be eligible for PUA with no prior employment.
If your place of employment was going to be NY, apply in NY.
When asked for proof or prior income, include your employment letter as well as the postponement letter. I'm assuming your PUA rate will be based on your negotiated salary stated on the letter.
I'm not sure as of what date you would be eligible for PUA, but perhaps that first start date listed on the letter.
Thank you so much!

If my original start date was Sept 14, is there any harm in applying before then or should I just wait until then? Does the fact that I am a “[p]rimary caregiver for a child unable to attend school or another facility due to COVID-19” matter? See https://dol.ny.gov/pandemic-unemployment-assistance
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 04:16:28 PM
Thank you so much!

If my original start date was Sept 14, is there any harm in applying before then or should I just wait until then? Does the fact that I am a “[p]rimary caregiver for a child unable to attend school or another facility due to COVID-19” matter? See https://dol.ny.gov/pandemic-unemployment-assistance

My understanding is that you can only file for PUA as of the date that you should have been employed so you won't be able to file now (pity because right now the additional $600 is only for claims from 3/28-7/31.) Since I'm not 100% sure, you can try calling to verify. (good luck getting through to someone)

Regarding childcare that's also only if you have a basis for a claim. If you're not unemployed now due to lack of childcare I don't see how you would be eligible.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ephcc90 on May 17, 2020, 04:26:55 PM
My understanding is that you can only file for PUA as of the date that you should have been employed so you won't be able to file now (pity because right now the additional $600 is only for claims from 3/28-7/31.) Since I'm not 100% sure, you can try calling to verify. (good luck getting through to someone)

Regarding childcare that's also only if you have a basis for a claim. If you're not unemployed now due to lack of childcare I don't see how you would be eligible.
Got it. Thank you again for the help!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 17, 2020, 05:24:44 PM
If someone has 3 jobs a d loses 2 can he get ui? He might make more than 504 from 1 remaining job but he needs income from other lost jobs
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 05:35:30 PM
If someone has 3 jobs a d loses 2 can he get ui? He might make more than 504 from 1 remaining job but he needs income from other lost jobs
$504 is the limit in NY. If he makes more than that from his one job he's out of luck.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 17, 2020, 06:21:41 PM
How should I report teachers salary for partial unemployment? 9 months of work paid over 12 months. Should I just report whats on the paycheck or recalculate for true 9 month salary?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 06:27:37 PM
How should I report teachers salary for partial unemployment? 9 months of work paid over 12 months. Should I just report whats on the paycheck or recalculate for true 9 month salary?

How does the school report it? On your paychecks are the dates for each week as you get it?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 17, 2020, 06:32:53 PM
Today, for the first time was able to get thru to the 800number of nys labor dep.This went thru on the first try additionally i called another time and it went straight thru.
They were not very helpful though.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 17, 2020, 06:58:28 PM
How does the school report it? On your paychecks are the dates for each week as you get it?
Pay check paid semi-monthly and has the correct date listed on it (ie 7/15 for 1st paycheck in july). Pay stub has start date, end date, check date (ie 7/1 start, 7/15 end, 7/15 check even though no work done in July).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 07:04:36 PM
Pay check paid semi-monthly and has the correct date listed on it (ie 7/15 for 1st paycheck in july). Pay stub has start date, end date, check date (ie 7/1 start, 7/15 end, 7/15 check even though no work done in July).
Then I don't really see a case for recalculating over 9 months. As far as the state is concerned you work for 12 months. The fact that 3 of those are "paid vacation" or whatever doesn't matter to them.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 17, 2020, 08:17:51 PM
Then I don't really see a case for recalculating over 9 months. As far as the state is concerned you work for 12 months. The fact that 3 of those are "paid vacation" or whatever doesn't matter to them.
Guess that's true, never really thought about it that way
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Pupashtetl on May 17, 2020, 09:06:43 PM
I was self employed in NJ, and last year earned 9k from 1 job. Is there a minimum amount of money I had to earn in 2019 from this specific job, in order to receive UI?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 09:11:20 PM
I was self employed in NJ, and last year earned 9k from 1 job. Is there a minimum amount of money I had to earn in 2019 from this specific job, in order to receive UI?
There's no minimum for PUA. You'll get $231/weekly plus $600/weekly for all claims 3/28-7/31.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Pupashtetl on May 17, 2020, 10:14:34 PM
There's no minimum for PUA. You'll get $231/weekly plus $600/weekly for all claims 3/28-7/31.
Thank You!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Pupashtetl on May 17, 2020, 11:00:18 PM
There's no minimum for PUA. You'll get $231/weekly plus $600/weekly for all claims 3/28-7/31.
So theoretically speaking, if I earned $900 in 2019 I would also be eligible for $231 + $600?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 11:05:00 PM
So theoretically speaking, if I earned $900 in 2019 I would also be eligible for $231 + $600?

In NJ yep. I've seen approvals of 1k in income. Anyone who can provide data points for less, please let us know.
In NY you'd get $182+$600.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 17, 2020, 11:19:01 PM
If you file today you can certify for the week ending in 5/17. If you file Monday you won't be able to until you get the option for backdated filings, and you'll get an error that you're trying to file while working so you'll need to log in and log back out.
I Should have listened, got a bit to busy Friday and didn't have a minute to file, i thought motz shbs and Sunday i would be able to file, but made a mistake as its only to certify claims, not to file for a new claim.

   So i guess i'm gonna try on Monday and see what happens.

 I'm officially back on the payroll today and on.  So i guess i'll wait for tom.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 11:22:11 PM
I Should have listened, got a bit to busy Friday and didn't have a minute to file, i thought motz shbs and Sunday i would be able to file, but made a mistake as its only to certify claims, not to file for a new claim.

   So i guess i'm gonna try on Monday and see what happens.

 I'm officially back on the payroll today and on.  So i guess i'll wait for tom.
Are you located in NY? You can file a new application any day during business hours including Sunday.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: besttime on May 17, 2020, 11:30:18 PM
I filed on Friday for the week ending 05/17. I see the below message when going in to certify (I am a W2 employee in NYS)...

"You are not authorized to use this system at this time. However, your authorization is being processed. Please return to our website tomorrow when your authorization will be available. Thank you."

Anyone ever seen this before? What can it mean?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 17, 2020, 11:32:59 PM
Are you located in NY? You can file a new application any day during business hours including Sunday.
Yes.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 11:35:57 PM
I filed on Friday for the week ending 05/17. I see the below message when going in to certify (I am a W2 employee in NYS)...

"You are not authorized to use this system at this time. However, your authorization is being processed. Please return to our website tomorrow when your authorization will be available. Thank you."

Anyone ever seen this before? What can it mean?

Yes. Had someone reach out to me with the exact same today. No idea what it could mean but I'm hoping that tomorrow means tomorrow...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 17, 2020, 11:36:53 PM
Are you located in NY? You can file a new application any day during business hours including Sunday.
Not according to what the website shows. You have a back end access to the website?

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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 17, 2020, 11:38:39 PM
Yes. Had someone reach out to me with the exact same today. No idea what it could mean but I'm hoping that tomorrow means tomorrow...
Filled it out for a family member and this is the only week where i came back today and i had the certify claim button still abvlb even though i certified my weekly claim on Thursday. Never saw that before.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 11:39:41 PM
Not according to what the website shows. You have a back end access to the website?

 (https://i.ibb.co/XzLhtps/Annotation-2020-05-17-233544.png) (https://ibb.co/TH2VtR8)

This is the link for new applicants:
https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/

Obviously you can't file now because it's past 7:30PM
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 17, 2020, 11:39:45 PM
Are you located in NY? You can file a new application any day during business hours including Sunday.
Whats the business hours you have on Sunday?
  To certify a claim its all day, not for a new claim according to my understanding.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 17, 2020, 11:40:44 PM
This is the link for new applicants:
https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/

Obviously you can't file now because it's past 7:30PM
Its so weird that each website has different rules to when you can file.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: est on May 17, 2020, 11:43:37 PM
Don't count your chickens just yet.
We got the exact same email a week ago and as I wrote above - 1) we only received the minimum $231 for PUA, 2) it was retroactive to the date of filing not the date of unemployment - which was 1 1/2 weeks earlier, 3) & we didn't receive any of the FPUC $600 a week.
+1

-$3000
Im just happy to get the approval after weeks of silence. They'll get the $ right at some point.

What are you all doing? Just hoping it will all clear itself up eventually?
I had the same thing- I’m self employed and they never asked me for any income info or tax returns, now they told me to file and I see they put in the minimum amount. I just got notice that my funds went through since time I filed (not from actual unemployment) and it’s missing PUA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 17, 2020, 11:43:45 PM
Its so weird that each website has different rules to when you can file.

Apply for Unemployment Insurance benefits (file a claim -- your claim is processed faster when you file online) and access other online services; Monday through Thursday 7:30 a.m. to 7:30 p.m.; Friday from 7:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.; and Weekends from 12:01 a.m. Saturday through 7:00 p.m. Sunday.

Claim weekly benefits (certify for benefits) from: Sunday from 12:01 a.m. to midnight; Monday through Friday from 7:30 a.m. to midnight; and Saturday from 12:01 a.m. to midnight.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 18, 2020, 12:01:22 AM
Not according to what the website shows. You have a back end access to the website?

 (https://i.ibb.co/XzLhtps/Annotation-2020-05-17-233544.png) (https://ibb.co/TH2VtR8)
Apply for Unemployment Insurance benefits (file a claim -- your claim is processed faster when you file online) and access other online services; Monday through Thursday 7:30 a.m. to 7:30 p.m.; Friday from 7:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.; and Weekends from 12:01 a.m. Saturday through 7:00 p.m. Sunday.

Claim weekly benefits (certify for benefits) from: Sunday from 12:01 a.m. to midnight; Monday through Friday from 7:30 a.m. to midnight; and Saturday from 12:01 a.m. to midnight.
And this end says you cant file on Sunday! Go figure.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 12:04:04 AM
And this end says you cant file on Sunday! Go figure.

It's probably and old landing page. They've changed the hours since Covid.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 18, 2020, 12:06:35 AM
URGENT!
NYS SENDS OUT EMAILS WITH DOCU SIGN IN IT FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO REQUEST BACKPAY. BY ME AND MY WIFE IT WAS SEND ON MAY 12 ALREADY AND I FOUND IT NOW IN MY SPAM FOLDER. CHECK YOUR SPAM FOLDER.



SUBJECT LINE IS "Action Required - NYS DOL Certification for Back Week Payments"


NYS Department of Labor via DocuSign <dse@docusign.net>
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 18, 2020, 12:16:25 AM
URGENT!
NYS SENDS OUT EMAILS WITH DOCU SIGN IN IT FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO REQUEST BACKPAY. BY ME AND MY WIFE IT WAS SEND ON MAY 12 ALREADY AND I FOUND IT NOW IN MY SPAM FOLDER. CHECK YOUR SPAM FOLDER.



SUBJECT LINE IS "Action Required - NYS DOL Certification for Back Week Payments"


NYS Department of Labor via DocuSign <dse@docusign.net>
Thanks will check now.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 18, 2020, 12:59:39 AM
URGENT!
NYS SENDS OUT EMAILS WITH DOCU SIGN IN IT FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO REQUEST BACKPAY. BY ME AND MY WIFE IT WAS SEND ON MAY 12 ALREADY AND I FOUND IT NOW IN MY SPAM FOLDER. CHECK YOUR SPAM FOLDER.



SUBJECT LINE IS "Action Required - NYS DOL Certification for Back Week Payments"


NYS Department of Labor via DocuSign <dse@docusign.net>
Nothing doing as of yet. I guess i'll keep an eye on the spam email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 18, 2020, 08:40:37 AM
Self employed in NJ.  Just got the $600 for last weeks payment.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Luvisrael on May 18, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
How does it work Re: Employer tax rates going up? When an employee files a claim it just affects it at that point? When it’s payable?  If they stop claiming, will it help the rate go down? Anyone have clarity?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 18, 2020, 08:56:22 AM
Self employed in NJ.  Just got the $600 for last weeks payment.
Good for you! Now gov, can it be my turn??
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 09:36:14 AM
How does it work Re: Employer tax rates going up? When an employee files a claim it just affects it at that point? When it’s payable?  If they stop claiming, will it help the rate go down? Anyone have clarity?

You can read up on that here https://dol.ny.gov/unemployment-insurance-rate-information
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 10:03:28 AM
URGENT!
NYS SENDS OUT EMAILS WITH DOCU SIGN IN IT FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO REQUEST BACKPAY. BY ME AND MY WIFE IT WAS SEND ON MAY 12 ALREADY AND I FOUND IT NOW IN MY SPAM FOLDER. CHECK YOUR SPAM FOLDER.



SUBJECT LINE IS "Action Required - NYS DOL Certification for Back Week Payments"


NYS Department of Labor via DocuSign <dse@docusign.net>

PSA: it takes a little less than a week from when you complete backdated certifications until your claims are processed and funds are released.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 18, 2020, 10:09:12 AM
Are those who are getting the docusign email people who filed under the old system or the new?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 18, 2020, 10:11:26 AM
Good for you! Now gov, can it be my turn??
don't worry. i still did not get anything for the first 4 weeks... :-[
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 10:13:12 AM
Are those who are getting the docusign email people who filed under the old system or the new?

Both. Don't see any rhyme or reason as to the order they're being sent out though...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 18, 2020, 10:14:12 AM
don't worry. i still did not get anything for the first 4 weeks... :-[
But you are the first person I know to have gotten any FPUC ($600) for self-employed in NJ!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 18, 2020, 10:15:55 AM
What are you all doing? Just hoping it will all clear itself up eventually?
I had the same thing- I’m self employed . . .
I can't speak for others but we've been waiting mighty long already.
Time to start contacting assemblymen, congressman, & senators.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 18, 2020, 10:17:11 AM
Both. Don't see any rhyme or reason as to the order they're being sent out though...
still waiting here :(
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Luvisrael on May 18, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
You can read up on that here https://dol.ny.gov/unemployment-insurance-rate-information
Thanks. Do u know where I can find this info for N.J.?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 10:27:08 AM
Thanks. Do u know where I can find this info for N.J.?

https://www.nj.gov/labor/ea/employer-services/rate-info/
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 18, 2020, 11:13:37 AM
But you are the first person I know to have gotten any FPUC ($600) for self-employed in NJ!
My wife is self employed and got the $600 (for one week) last week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 18, 2020, 11:34:34 AM
I filed 2 weeks ago.
The system kept telling me I need to call them (which was not possible)

I just got this email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: besttime on May 18, 2020, 11:36:05 AM
Yes. Had someone reach out to me with the exact same today. No idea what it could mean but I'm hoping that tomorrow means tomorrow...

Thanks! The message went away for me today and I was able to certify for the week ending 5/17 today.

Thanks for all of your help with this!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 11:37:30 AM
I filed 2 weeks ago.
The system kept telling me I need to call them (which was not possible)

I just got this email.

Seeing a ton of these coming in today! Check your email/account if you're waiting for approval.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 18, 2020, 11:50:33 AM
My wife is self employed and got the $600 (for one week) last week.
Maybe something is finally happening......though it should be retroactive to the week of 3/29 - 4/4.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 18, 2020, 12:33:24 PM
Seeing a ton of these coming in today! Check your email/account if you're waiting for approval.

Also got this. What's the next step?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 12:38:49 PM
Also got this. What's the next step?

Certify weekly for future claims.
Be on the lookout for an email from the DOL with instructions on how to certify for backdated claims (more info available in the Wiki).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: presidentialplus on May 18, 2020, 12:39:53 PM
Certify weekly for future claims.
Be on the lookout for an email from the DOL with instructions on how to certify for backdated claims (more info available in the Wiki).

Thanks,
How do I request the alternate quarters calculation?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 12:52:10 PM
Thanks,
How do I request the alternate quarters calculation?

Fax in a reconsideration form https://www.labor.ny.gov/formsdocs/ui/TC403HR.pdf
It's also included with your Benefit Determination Letter.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 18, 2020, 01:02:55 PM
If I'm not able to work as I need to care for my kid's home.

Does my employer need to pay me 2/3 of salary?
How does he receive the reimbursement?

In the case, he pays me the 2/3 do I loos out on $600 F-PUA?


Families First Coronavirus Response Act: Employer Paid Leave Requirements
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
If I'm not able to work as I need to care for my kid's home.

Does my employer need to pay me 2/3 of salary?
How does he receive the reimbursement?

In the case, he pays me the 2/3 do I loos out on $600 F-PUA?


Families First Coronavirus Response Act: Employer Paid Leave Requirements
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave

Quote from: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave
5. is caring for a child whose school or place of care is closed (or child care provider is unavailable) for reasons related to COVID-19

For leave reason (5): employees taking leave shall be paid at 2/3 their regular rate or 2/3 the applicable minimum wage, whichever is higher, up to $200 per day and $12,000 in the aggregate (over a 12-week period—two weeks of paid sick leave followed by up to 10 weeks of paid expanded family and medical leave).

If you max out your 12k before 12 weeks he no longer has to offer this.

Quote from: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-employer-paid-leave

Covered Employers: The paid sick leave and expanded family and medical leave provisions of the FFCRA apply to certain public employers, and private employers with fewer than 500 employees... Small businesses with fewer than 50 employees may qualify for exemption from the requirement to provide leave due to school closings or child care unavailability if the leave requirements would jeopardize the viability of the business as a going concern.


Tax Credits: Covered employers qualify for dollar-for-dollar reimbursement through tax credits for all qualifying wages paid under the FFCRA. Qualifying wages are those paid to an employee who takes leave under the Act for a qualifying reason, up to the appropriate per diem and aggregate payment caps. Applicable tax credits also extend to amounts paid or incurred to maintain health insurance coverage. For more information, please see the Department of the Treasury’s website.

On UI you'll get your Weekly Benefit Rate plus $600 for all claims 3/28-7/31.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 18, 2020, 01:25:44 PM
I was a part time worker that lost my job due to covid 19. I applied for unemployment 2 weeks after I lost my job. A few weeks after I applied I saw that $600 was deposited in my account.  The next week I did not get any money in my account.  2 weeks later I got another $600. Then the next week I didn't get anything and then a week after that I got in my account  $525 and then $125. I am wondering how come I am not getting every week money. Should I ask them for the first 2 weeks that I didn't file for unemployment plus all the weeks that I don't see the money in my account.  I never know when I get money and why some weeks I get money and some weeks I don't get money. What could it be?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 01:31:21 PM
I was a part time worker that lost my job due to covid 19. I applied for unemployment 2 weeks after I lost my job. A few weeks after I applied I saw that $600 was deposited in my account.  The next week I did not get any money in my account.  2 weeks later I got another $600. Then the next week I didn't get anything and then a week after that I got in my account  $525 and then $125. I am wondering how come I am not getting every week money. Should I ask them for the first 2 weeks that I didn't file for unemployment plus all the weeks that I don't see the money in my account.  I never know when I get money and why some weeks I get money and some weeks I don't get money. What could it be?

Which state are you located in?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: mgarfin on May 18, 2020, 01:44:18 PM
Tax Credits: Covered employers qualify for dollar-for-dollar reimbursement through tax credits for all qualifying wages paid under the FFCRA.
Qualifying wages are those paid to an employee who takes leave under the Act for a qualifying reason, up to the appropriate per diem and aggregate payment caps.
Applicable tax credits also extend to amounts paid or incurred to maintain health insurance coverage. For more information, please see the Department of the Treasury’s website.

Is this done on the quarterly 940?


On UI you'll get your Weekly Benefit Rate plus $600 for all claims 3/28-7/31.

Can I choose to get paid from the employer or go on UI?

Small businesses with fewer than 50 employees may qualify for exemption from the requirement to provide leave due to school closings or child care unavailability if the leave requirements would jeopardize the viability of the business as a going concern.
Is this a self-assessment?


P.S. It beyond me what @cgr  is are doing for the community
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Jellybelly on May 18, 2020, 02:00:38 PM
For someone that wasn’t eligible for most programs, but now on unemployment is eligible, can they sign up for all those programs? Is there a different thread for other programs?
I’m asking about food stamps and Obamacare....
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Ellen on May 18, 2020, 02:03:18 PM
Log out and log back in. For some reason that magically fixes the issue.
This doesnt work for me. I still get the same error.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 18, 2020, 02:12:40 PM
For someone that wasn’t eligible for most programs, but now on unemployment is eligible, can they sign up for all those programs? Is there a different thread for other programs?
I’m asking about food stamps and Obamacare....
Obamacare Master thread (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=47648.0)
Losing insurance as a result of unemployment is a qualifying event for special enrollment period.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 18, 2020, 02:25:27 PM
On a part time UI claim do i get the full FPUC ($600) or based on the amount of days worked? (in NY)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 02:32:50 PM
Is this done on the quarterly 940?
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/covid-19-related-tax-credits-for-required-paid-leave-provided-by-small-and-midsize-businesses-faqs
941 but yes. If his credit is more than his taxes he'll get a refund check.

Can I choose to get paid from the employer or go on UI?
Not sure if your employer must offer you paid leave or if he as the option to let you go for this reason, but if your worksite has been closed or  you have been furloughed, you're not eligible for paid leave.

Is this a self-assessment?
No. Check the DOL link.

Thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 02:33:32 PM
On a part time UI claim do i get the full FPUC ($600) or based on the amount of days worked? (in NY)

Full $600 as long as you have at least $1 payable on your claim.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 02:34:40 PM
For someone that wasn’t eligible for most programs, but now on unemployment is eligible, can they sign up for all those programs? Is there a different thread for other programs?
I’m asking about food stamps and Obamacare....

UI counts as income for food stamps, so you might or might not be eligible depending on the # of dependents.
Most states reopened open enrollment (NY as well) so you can sign up for a plan now.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: VY on May 18, 2020, 02:35:16 PM
hi
i applied two weeks agoin NJ and the following is still showing.

""My Unemployment Insurance Claim Status
If you filed your claim online and your status below is "pending", your claim is currently being processed. Our team is working around the clock to process claims. Please check back for updates as this information is updated nightly.

Claim Status: Pending (Claims take up to 7 days to process.Information is updated nightly.)""


any one with some more info on how ong it could take?
thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shwarmabob on May 18, 2020, 04:23:57 PM
someone filed NYS UI + PUA. certified for past weeks between the filing and the approval. Received both UI + PUA for all except 2 weeks. There was no reason given why PUA is missing for these 2 weeks. anyone in similar shoes? what could be the reason?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 04:32:35 PM
someone filed NYS UI + PUA. certified for past weeks between the filing and the approval. Received both UI + PUA for all except 2 weeks. There was no reason given why PUA is missing for these 2 weeks. anyone in similar shoes? what could be the reason?

Are you referring to the $600? That's FPUC, not PUA.
FPUC is for all weeks 3/30-7/31 (NY). Maybe those 2 claims are pre-3/30?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 18, 2020, 04:35:04 PM
I understand that UI & FPUC are taxable.

Are they considered regular income, i.e. will they be included in MAGI?  [Or are they somewhere esle on the tax return?]
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 18, 2020, 04:45:57 PM
Received call today from DOL, was then forwarded to the automated telephone filing line for pua, when asked what my net gross income was for 2019, I don't have the option to select 0 and the system won't allow me to proceed. Just hangs up. anyone have this issue? (Ny)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 18, 2020, 04:59:59 PM
just got the callback, that I am approved for PUA. Agent didn't know how much I'm getting.
Will I also get the $600 on top of the reg PUA?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 18, 2020, 05:03:44 PM
just got the callback, that I am approved for PUA. Agent didn't know how much I'm getting.
Will I also get the $600 on top of the reg PUA?
did you do the reg ui application too, or only the pua?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 18, 2020, 05:08:06 PM
just got the callback, that I am approved for PUA. Agent didn't know how much I'm getting.
Will I also get the $600 on top of the reg PUA?
Yes
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 18, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
did you do the reg ui application too, or only the pua?
agent told me that since they don't have a W2 of me (I worked on a 1099) I am not eligible for reg UI.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: unavailable on May 18, 2020, 05:13:11 PM
agent told me that since they don't have a W2 of me (I worked on a 1099) I am not eligible for reg UI.
from what i understood you only did the pua application. what happened after that?
did you call in? did they call you? did you also file the reg ui?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:16:33 PM
I understand that UI & FPUC are taxable.

Are they considered regular income, i.e. will they be included in MAGI?  [Or are they somewhere esle on the tax return?]

It's considered unearned income, meaning you pay Fed, State, and Local taxes, but no FICA.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:17:15 PM
Received call today from DOL, was then forwarded to the automated telephone filing line for pua, when asked what my net gross income was for 2019, I don't have the option to select 0 and the system won't allow me to proceed. Just hangs up. anyone have this issue? (Ny)

Did you get an email/online form as well?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 18, 2020, 05:17:39 PM
from what i understood you only did the pua application. what happened after that?
did you call in? did they call you? did you also file the reg ui?
I filed for UI but the system automatically saw that I'm not eligible for it, as CGR replied up_thread.

I kept calling in, till today it just said long wait times and got cut off. Today it said, estimated waiting time is 45 minutes, after a few minutes waiting, there was an option for a callback, so did that, and got the call half hour later.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:18:46 PM
did you do the reg ui application too, or only the pua?

I'd like to reiterate this point again for NY: EVERYONE applies through https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/login (unless you applied early April or earlier). If for some reason that doesn't give them enough information. They reach out for more.
There is no separate UI vs PUA application, there are only additional PUA questions.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 18, 2020, 05:20:24 PM
Did you get an email/online form as well?
not yet
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 18, 2020, 05:22:22 PM
I'd like to reiterate this point again for NY: EVERYONE applies through https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/login (unless you applied early April or earlier). If for some reason that doesn't give them enough information. They reach out for more.
There is no separate UI vs PUA application, there are only additional PUA questions.
People have a better experience when applying thru the old system. (i.e. getting a immediate approval)
Is there any downside from applying that way?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:22:49 PM
not yet

I guess wait for it? The other alternative is to get a live person on the phone so...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:26:13 PM
People have a better experience when applying thru the old system. (i.e. getting a immediate approval)
Is there any downside from applying that way?

In my experience if you have at least the minimum W2 wages you get immediate approval, and if you don't they dump you in the backlog pile.
If they have W2 wages feel free to use the old system but if they're going for PUA- go with the new one. That has some PUA questions already in it so you don't have to wait for those additional questions, only for the additional additional questions. (I know, I know ::) ::))
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Mordyk on May 18, 2020, 05:26:20 PM
When posting in this thread please include which state you filed in. it is becoming a big mumble jumble
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 18, 2020, 05:29:21 PM
When posting in this thread please include which state you filed in. it is becoming a big mumble jumble
In hindsight, there probably should've been two (or more) threads, split up by state. It's far too late now, unless you make break-off threads that pick up from here. It will be too complicated to actually split this thread up, unless @Dan gives @cgr mod-power and she does it.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 18, 2020, 05:29:39 PM
I guess wait for it? The other alternative is to get a live person on the phone so...
I'm able to get a rep on the phone, however they can't help/are clueless how to enter 0, one rep told me it includes the year 2020 ,she told me to enter any amount :-\
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 18, 2020, 05:34:07 PM
In my experience if you have at least the minimum W2 wages you get immediate approval, and if you don't they dump you in the backlog pile.
If they have W2 wages feel free to use the old system but if they're going for PUA- go with the new one. That has some PUA questions already in it so you don't have to wait for those additional questions, only for the additional additional questions. (I know, I know ::) ::))
Did you see immediate approvals thru the new application?
IME with those who are eligible thru the reg UI, it was easier to apply thru the old application and get the immediate approval then to use the new application and be placed in the backlog.
those who are only eligible thru PUA, i agree that they wont gain from the old application.

(we are talking about NY)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:34:16 PM
I'm able to get a rep on the phone, however they can't help/are clueless how to enter 0, one rep told me it includes the year 2020 ,she told me to enter any amount :-\

🙈🙈🙈
They do realize that you're eligible even with a loss on your Schedule C, right?

Back to the matter at hand, I'd put in $1.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:36:07 PM
Did you see immediate approvals thru the new application?
IME with those who are eligible thru the reg UI, it was easier to apply thru the old application and get the immediate approval then to use the new application and be placed in the backlog.
those who are only eligible thru PUA, i agree that they wont gain from the old application.

(we are talking about NY)

Yes, but I don't disagree that if you know you're good for regular UI, why bother answering all those questions.
It's only for simplicity sake that I don't recommend any other application, especially since many believe themselves to be eligible for reg UI when they're not.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:37:34 PM
In hindsight, there probably should've been two (or more) threads, split up by state. It's far too late now, unless you make break-off threads that pick up from here. It will be too complicated to actually split this thread up, unless @Dan gives @cgr mod-power and she does it.

@cgr is glad to answer questions, but has no intention of sifting through 70 pages to determine what's what ;)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 18, 2020, 05:37:54 PM
It's considered unearned income, meaning you pay Fed, State, and Local taxes, but no FICA.

Does that mean that if it totals more than $3,600 one would lose the EITC?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 18, 2020, 05:39:43 PM
@cgr is glad to answer questions, but has no intention of sifting through 70 pages to determine what's what ;)
We would update this link if you did it!!

Quote
Thank you @cgr for all your efforts on behalf of everyone here.
If anyone would like to show her appreciation, click here: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=ZJYQXNG59C4NU&currency_code=USD&amount=1800&source=url
For the record, she has no idea that I am posting this.
(Try it!)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 18, 2020, 05:40:46 PM
Does that mean that if it totals more than $3,600 one would lose the EITC?
No
AFAIK only investment income will disqualify you from EIC
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 18, 2020, 05:45:56 PM
🙈🙈🙈
They do realize that you're eligible even with a loss on your Schedule C, right?

Back to the matter at hand, I'd put in $1.
yup I argued different points,in the end I just put in 1$
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 05:53:21 PM
Does that mean that if it totals more than $3,600 one would lose the EITC?

No, but your AGI might still be too high. (It's not earned income and it's also not investment income, but it does count toward your AGI). See more info and check your AGI limits here: https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/individuals/earned-income-tax-credit/do-i-qualify-for-earned-income-tax-credit-eitc

You can try using the 2019 calculator to run a test scenario. https://apps.irs.gov/app/eitc2019/SetLanguage.do?lang=en
Perhaps the gov will change the AGI rules when they realize how UI affected it?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 18, 2020, 05:58:09 PM
Perhaps the gov will change the AGI rules when they realize how UI affected it?
Hopefully!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 18, 2020, 06:24:17 PM


Perhaps the gov will change the AGI rules WHEN THEY REALIZE how UI affected it?

yep.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 18, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Someone made a mistake on the PUA application (in NY) and wrote that he was able to teleworker when in fact he does not, is there anyway to fix it?
Is there anyway to get to a live rep (in NY) on a denied application?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Shmobaum on May 18, 2020, 06:32:13 PM
I applied on 4/20 for NJ UI as a self employed. When I check my claim status it still says pending may take up to 7 days. It’s been almost a month and haven’t heard back.
I did not upload a NJ ID since my license is Still from NY. But I’m a NJ resident for 7 yrs and I’ve been on JerseyCare in the past...
Any help/advise would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 18, 2020, 06:40:39 PM
No, but your AGI might still be too high. (It's not earned income and it's also not investment income, but it does count toward your AGI). See more info and check your AGI limits here: https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/individuals/earned-income-tax-credit/do-i-qualify-for-earned-income-tax-credit-eitc

You can try using the 2019 calculator to run a test scenario. https://apps.irs.gov/app/eitc2019/SetLanguage.do?lang=en
Perhaps the gov will change the AGI rules when they realize how UI affected it?

But that can be helped with contibuting to an IRA [6K per spouse], which many in that income bracket do anyways to be eligible for programs. [I.e. in NJ, if your MAGI is $1,500 above eligibilty for JerseyCare, rather put 1,500 into IRA than lose $15,000 of benefits.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 06:47:47 PM
But that can be helped with contibuting to an IRA [6K per spouse], which many in that income bracket do anyways to be eligible for programs. [I.e. in NJ, if your MAGI is $1,500 above eligibilty for JerseyCare, rather put 1,500 into IRA than lose $15,000 of benefits.

AGI is affected by everything- I'm not saying that those on UI will automatically not be eligible for the EITC. In fact, there's a possibility that more taxpayers will be eligible because most will have a reduction in Earned Income for 2020, and both Earned Income and AGI need to be below a certain threshold.

It's a lot easier to get your AGI below a certain amount- all you need is the right deductions.
To get your Earned Income below a certain threshold, you need... well less earned income.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 18, 2020, 07:00:28 PM
In hindsight, there probably should've been two (or more) threads, split up by state. It's far too late now, unless you make break-off threads that pick up from here. It will be too complicated to actually split this thread up, unless @Dan gives @cgr mod-power and she does it.

Or if everyone put their location in their profile it would show in the sidebar.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 18, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
Or if everyone put their location in their profile it would show in the sidebar.
... says the person who doesn't have their location on their profile.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 18, 2020, 07:10:14 PM
... says the person who doesn't have their location on their profile.

It was a suggested solution to the problem. Or make a good Wiki or post n to the Wiki everyone who specified their location.

Either way, I posted my location.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 18, 2020, 07:10:54 PM
It was a suggested solution to the problem. Or make a good Wiki or post n to the Wiki everyone who specified their location.
I was just kidding...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 18, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
Friend finally has $ listed in the payment history on his account. Supposed to be released today.
It is only showing the last three weeks even though on the PUA application he certified for 9 weeks. Has anyone had the experience of it coming in slowly when so many weeks or does he need to reach out to them?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
Friend finally has $ listed in the payment history on his account. Supposed to be released today.
It is only showing the last three weeks even though on the PUA application he certified for 9 weeks. Has anyone had the experience of it coming in slowly when so many weeks or does he need to reach out to them?

You failed to mention the friend's location...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 18, 2020, 07:17:53 PM
Am I not eligible or it didn't update yet?
Claim Status: Filed

Date of Claim: 04/26/2020

Weekly Benefit Rate: $0

Remaining Balance: $0

Next Payable Week: 05/02/2020

Last Week Paid:

Last Paid Amount: $0


Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 07:18:58 PM
Am I not eligible or it didn't update yet?
Claim Status: Filed

Date of Claim: 04/26/2020

Weekly Benefit Rate: $0

Remaining Balance: $0

Next Payable Week: 05/02/2020

Last Week Paid:

Last Paid Amount: $0

Location Please.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 18, 2020, 07:19:06 PM
Location Please.
Nj
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 18, 2020, 07:19:59 PM
You failed to mention the friend's location...
NY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 07:21:41 PM
NY

He'll get an email from the DOL with instructions on how to file for missed certifications.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 18, 2020, 07:22:38 PM
If he's in NJ then he's in the same boat as all of us.
They finally started giving self-employed filers the minimum $231 per week but not the $600.
No one seems to know when they'll be giving the $600.
Showing the 600 on payment history (this is for NY). Money wasn’t released yet but he should have it soon as the release date was today.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 18, 2020, 07:23:54 PM
He'll get an email from the DOL with instructions on how to file for missed certifications.
All weeks were certified. It is showing in online forms. I double checked it for him.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 07:27:37 PM
All weeks were certified. It is showing in online forms. I double checked it for him.

Check what it says under Unemployment Services> Payment History
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ROYA on May 18, 2020, 07:33:01 PM
Check what it says under Unemployment Services> Payment History
It is only showing the past three weeks not including the last week that was certified yesterday. For that it says that it was certified and takes a few days to process...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 07:40:19 PM
It is only showing the past three weeks not including the last week that was certified yesterday. For that it says that it was certified and takes a few days to process...
He might need to recertify the early weeks now that his application processed. I know of someone who had a pending application for weeks and was able to certify, but when it was finally approved it was without any of certifications and now he's being told to wait for his backdate certification email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 18, 2020, 07:40:54 PM
Am I not eligible or it didn't update yet?
Claim Status: Filed

Date of Claim: 04/26/2020

Weekly Benefit Rate: $0

Remaining Balance: $0

Next Payable Week: 05/02/2020

Last Week Paid:

Last Paid Amount: $0
You need to wait until the weekly benefit amount is updated to $231, at which point you can start certifying.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 07:44:47 PM
It is only showing the past three weeks not including the last week that was certified yesterday. For that it says that it was certified and takes a few days to process...
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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 07:45:41 PM
This doesnt work for me. I still get the same error.

Try clearing your cache/cookies.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 18, 2020, 08:02:02 PM
I was a part time worker that lost my job due to covid 19. I applied for unemployment 2 weeks after I lost my job. A few weeks after I applied I saw that $600 was deposited in my account.  The next week I did not get any money in my account.  2 weeks later I got another $600. Then the next week I didn't get anything and then a week after that I got in my account  $525 and then $125. I am wondering how come I am not getting every week money. Should I ask them for the first 2 weeks that I didn't file for unemployment plus all the weeks that I don't see the money in my account.  I never know when I get money and why some weeks I get money and some weeks I don't get money. What could it be?

I am located in NY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 08:07:33 PM
I am located in NY
Odd. I was beginning to kid myself that NY was getting their act together...
What do you see in terms of certifications and payments under Unemployment Benefits> Payment History?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 18, 2020, 08:07:43 PM
Hopefully!
UI did effect EIC but UI does not effect your bank account. EIC you lose 28% of each additional dollar you make (between federal and NYS/C), you still earned the 72% from the UI benefits
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 18, 2020, 08:12:24 PM
You need to wait until the weekly benefit amount is updated to $231, at which point you can start certifying.
Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 08:12:57 PM
UI did effect EIC but UI does not effect your bank account. EIC you lose 28% of each additional dollar you make (between federal and NYS/C), you still earned the 72% from the UI benefits
Again, UI is not earned income. It does affect your AGI but you might have enough deductions for it not to matter.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 18, 2020, 08:14:54 PM
Again, UI is not earned income. It does affect your AGI but you might have enough deductions for it not to matter.
But even without deductions you are still better off than UI minus EIC vs EIC minus UI
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 08:16:14 PM
But even without deductions you are still better off than UI minus EIC vs EIC minus UI
Huh? Not understanding.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 18, 2020, 08:19:26 PM
Huh? Not understanding.
If you received $10,000 UI benefits a family of 3+ children (and your total income is 25K+) your EIC will be reduced by $2800, Its still $7,200 more than w/o UI
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 08:33:38 PM
If you received $10,000 UI benefits a family of 3+ children (and your total income is 25K+) your EIC will be reduced by $2800, Its still $7,200 more than w/o UI
Not exactly. Remember UI is in lieu of wages. Receiving less on UI than your usual wages will make you more eligible, and recieving more on UI vs wages will make you less eligible.


Here's what I mean when I say that UI is not Earned Income so you might be better off:

You earned 60k in wages last year- you have 60k in earned income. Your AGI is 20k. You're not eligible for EITC.
You earned 20k in wages and 40k in UI this year- you have 20k in earned income (even though your total income is 60k). Your AGI is 20k. You're eligible for EITC.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 18, 2020, 10:12:17 PM
(ny)
Do Funds received during unemployment for work done during employment disqualify me from being able to claim that weeks pay period?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 10:23:19 PM
(ny)
Do Funds received during unemployment for work done during employment disqualify me from being able to claim that weeks pay period?

Depends on when it was earned. Check to see what dates it covers on the actual check. If he issued it with dates of let's say 5/1-5/15 even if it's technically for 3/1-3/15 it might be an issue because the state will have a report that there was a check for you for the period of 5/1-5/15.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 18, 2020, 10:31:28 PM
Depends on when it was earned. Check to see what dates it covers on the actual check. If he issued it with dates of let's say 5/1-5/15 even if it's technically for 3/1-3/15 it might be an issue because the state will have a report that there was a check for you for the period of 5/1-5/15.
to clarify, self employed. And was for a specific service  provided  ,so payment doesn't have a pay period. lastly, was paid with cc
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 18, 2020, 10:36:53 PM
to clarify, self employed. And was for a specific service  provided  ,so payment doesn't have a pay period. lastly, was paid with cc

You can receive payments now (i.e. net30) for work done before UI. The general rule for the $504 limit is for monies earned, not collected. There are exceptions to commissions when you don't know if you'll earn or not, severance, paid leave that is owed to you etc.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 18, 2020, 11:55:59 PM
If I would work on Fridays would I be able to apply for unemployment for Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday?

 That's 4 days.
As I'm only able to get paid for four days, so can I file that i didn't work for 4 days?
  Or I must claim that I worked for one day?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 12:00:20 AM
If I would work on Fridays would I be able to apply for unemployment for Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday?

 That's 4 days.
As I'm only able to get paid for four days, so can I file that i didn't work for 4 days?
  Or I must claim that I worked for one day?

Location?
Can we institute a penalty system🤪
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: myi on May 19, 2020, 12:04:54 AM
Location?
Can we institute a penalty system
Oops. NY
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 12:10:08 AM
If I would work on Fridays would I be able to apply for unemployment for Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday?

 That's 4 days.
As I'm only able to get paid for four days, so can I file that i didn't work for 4 days?
  Or I must claim that I worked for one day?

It's not how many days you don't work, it's how many days you do.
For each day worked you'll lose 25% of your benefit rate. $600 remains a flat amount.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dealben on May 19, 2020, 12:12:21 AM
If I would work on Fridays would I be able to apply for unemployment for Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday?

 That's 4 days.
As I'm only able to get paid for four days, so can I file that i didn't work for 4 days?
  Or I must claim that I worked for one day?
At ny dol, working 1 out of 5 days will deduct a quarter of your benefits
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 19, 2020, 08:49:39 AM
I was a part time worker that lost my job due to covid 19. I applied for unemployment 2 weeks after I lost my job. A few weeks after I applied I saw that $600 was deposited in my account.  The next week I did not get any money in my account.  2 weeks later I got another $600. Then the next week I didn't get anything and then a week after that I got in my account  $525 and then $125. I am wondering how come I am not getting every week money. Should I ask them for the first 2 weeks that I didn't file for unemployment plus all the weeks that I don't see the money in my account.  I never know when I get money and why some weeks I get money and some weeks I don't get money. What could it be?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 19, 2020, 08:53:12 AM
I am located in NY. At my payment history is shows that for the week 3/15 it was my last week working and I got $0 . It then shows for the week 5/10/2020 I got $159 and $525. Why didn't I get money for the weeks inbtween?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 19, 2020, 08:55:01 AM
I also did get 2 other times that it does not show in m payment history money.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 10:06:52 AM
I am located in NY. At my payment history is shows that for the week 3/15 it was my last week working and I got $0 . It then shows for the week 5/10/2020 I got $159 and $525. Why didn't I get money for the weeks inbtween?

$525? Sounds odd, isn’t NY capped at $504?

This is a general question, not addressed to Dreamer, rather asking about his situation.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 19, 2020, 10:16:17 AM
It could be  that the $525 is from the $600 and they took off some taxes. I have no idea. It sounds like my unemployment benefits are all messed up. Is there anyone to talk to so that I could find out what happened to all the unemployment benefits?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 19, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
Or maybe it's a few weeks combined?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 10:22:52 AM
It could be  that the $525 is from the $600 and they took off some taxes. I have no idea. It sounds like my unemployment benefits are all messed up. Is there anyone to talk to so that I could find out what happened to all the unemployment benefits?

This actually makes perfect sense, you can opt into 12.5% tax withholding which would leave you with $525 of the $600 (12.5> of $600 is $75). The PUA minimum of $182 after 12.5% withholding is $159.25. Mystery solved.

@dreaming, you can check to see if you opted in to 12.5%, my guess is you did. You’re eventually going to get paid, and might have to (re)certify for the other weeks. Continue certifying weekly in any case.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 10:24:24 AM
Or maybe it's a few weeks combined?

Presumably they would break it down and list it by individual weeks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 10:43:21 AM
I am located in NY. At my payment history is shows that for the week 3/15 it was my last week working and I got $0 . It then shows for the week 5/10/2020 I got $159 and $525. Why didn't I get money for the weeks inbtween?

The $0 for your "last week worked" is your waiting week. They haven't paid that out yet, and totally bumbled it by renaming it to "last week worked". That's even more wrong and confusing than "waiting week"...

$159 and $525 is the correct amounts if you're withholding taxes and receiving $182 and $600.

Be on the lookout for an email from the DOL with instructions on how to certify the weeks you missed. Be sure to certify weekly for new weeks to get your benefits released.

Very surprised at the funds you received randomly that are not in your account. Not very like the DOL to do that... were you perhaps waiting for some other state refund? The UI payments should say something like NYS DOL UI if you're getting direct deposit.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 10:45:14 AM
The $0 for your "last week worked" is your waiting week. They haven't paid that out yet, and totally bumbled it by renaming it to "last week worked". That's even more wrong and confusing than "waiting week"...

$159 and $525 is the correct amounts if you're withholding taxes and receiving $182 and $600.

Be on the lookout for an email from the DOL with instructions on how to certify the weeks you missed. Be sure to certify weekly for new weeks to get your benefits released.

Very surprised at the funds you received randomly that are not in your account. Not very like the DOL to do that... were you perhaps waiting for some other state refund? The UI payments should say something like NYS DOL UI if you're getting direct deposit.

I got a single FPUC $600 payment that’s not showing on my account. I don’t think I’m the only one...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YesThatsMe on May 19, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
In NJ, what does the email from e-Adjudication look like?

DW filed 5/4, and it went to WBR of $0 on 5/11, and have heard nothing from Labor at all. I am ok with waiting, but what is the process like at this point, can someone who had this chime in please?

Did anyone else in NJ wait over 2 weeks for an e-Adjudication? Any way to speed it up? Still nothing!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 19, 2020, 11:13:40 AM
Did anyone else in NJ wait over 2 weeks for an e-Adjudication? Any way to speed it up? Still nothing!
Yes mine says $0 for over 2 weeks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 19, 2020, 11:16:52 AM
Did anyone else in NJ wait over 2 weeks for an e-Adjudication? Any way to speed it up? Still nothing!
Read up-thread.
Many waited a lot longer.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: pointer on May 19, 2020, 11:18:00 AM
Did anyone else in NJ wait over 2 weeks for an e-Adjudication? Any way to speed it up? Still nothing!
Over 3 weeks over here.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 19, 2020, 11:28:27 AM
The $0 for your "last week worked" is your waiting week. They haven't paid that out yet, and totally bumbled it by renaming it to "last week worked". That's even more wrong and confusing than "waiting week"...

$159 and $525 is the correct amounts if you're withholding taxes and receiving $182 and $600.

Be on the lookout for an email from the DOL with instructions on how to certify the weeks you missed. Be sure to certify weekly for new weeks to get your benefits released.

Very surprised at the funds you received randomly that are not in your account. Not very like the DOL to do that... were you perhaps waiting for some other state refund? The UI payments should say something like NYS DOL UI if you're getting direct deposit.

I opened a new bank account and I only gave the unemployment office this account number. 
So there is nothing for me to do to get back my passed money except to wait for an email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 11:34:54 AM
I opened a new bank account and I only gave the unemployment office this account number. 
So there is nothing for me to do to get back my passed money except to wait for an email.

They're so messed up...

Correct. Check your spam folder as well.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Realshlomo on May 19, 2020, 11:42:41 AM
I opened a new bank account and I only gave the unemployment office this account number. 
So there is nothing for me to do to get back my passed money except to wait for an email.
Check your messages on the website. You should have a form to fill. I dont think they sent out the backpay yet as I know of another that has the exact same situation as you. They did fill a form out certifying previous weeks. I assume when someone gets a round to it they will manually process that form and send the back pay.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 19, 2020, 11:50:42 AM
Did anyone else in NJ wait over 2 weeks for an e-Adjudication? Any way to speed it up? Still nothing!
I never got the e-adjudication email but my number at one point changed from $0 to $231, and I've been able to certify(and get the minimum, for now). So keep checking, even if no email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 19, 2020, 11:54:41 AM
I never got the e-adjudication email but my number at one point changed from $0 to $231, and I've been able to certify(and get the minimum, for now). So keep checking, even if no email.
How long did that take?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 11:57:15 AM
Check your messages on the website. You should have a form to fill. I dont think they sent out the backpay yet as I know of another that has the exact same situation as you. They did fill a form out certifying previous weeks. I assume when someone gets a round to it they will manually process that form and send the back pay.

They started processing backpay claims last week. Many already received funds when certifying via the DOL Docusign email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 12:00:14 PM
NY:
If you are applying for PUA with a 1099, Schedule C, F, SE or K, and your income on your Schedule is above $19,500, your Benefit Rate should be above the state minimum of $182.

If you were only awarded a Benefit Rate of $182 when your rate should be higher:

If your application was recently approved, wait for a representative to reach out to you to verify your income.
You will need to provide your 1040 return along with your 1099, Schedule C, F, SE or K. Once they have proof of that, they can readjust your Benefit Rate.

If it has been a while since you were approved, reach out to us at chaiplus1@gmail.com for instructions on how to submit a Request for Reconsideration for your Benefit Rate.



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Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cozmohoot on May 19, 2020, 12:02:45 PM
My friend just got from april 12 thru today 504 and 600 to be released today.
Bh ,in NY.

But they sent it to debit card by mistake. She will deal with that....
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 19, 2020, 12:04:12 PM
I am trying to help someone in NY. They apply for the first time unemployment benefits this past Friday.  Today when he wanted to rectify for the week, it seems like the website does see that he applied for unemployment. It does not let to certify for the week, only to apply for unemployment.  Should he wait some more days to see if his unemployment claim will be processed and then claim weekly benefits or should he just today reapply for unemployment?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 12:04:48 PM
My friend just got from april 12 thru today 504 and 600 to be released today.
Bh ,in NY.

But they sent it to debit card by mistake. She will deal with that....

Bh.
Getting a debit card when signing up for DD is usually an indication that they were unable to verify the bank account.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 12:05:51 PM
I am trying to help someone in NY. They apply for the first time unemployment benefits this past Friday.  Today when he wanted to rectify for the week, it seems like the website does see that he applied for unemployment. It does not let to certify for the week, only to apply for unemployment.  Should he wait some more days to see if his unemployment claim will be processed and then claim weekly benefits or should he just today reapply for unemployment?

He will only be able to certify once his claim is approved.
Have him check this link: https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/ if it says he applied, he shouldn't apply again.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: beeweegee on May 19, 2020, 12:20:47 PM
How long did that take?
A few weeks.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Realshlomo on May 19, 2020, 12:23:23 PM
They started processing backpay claims last week. Many already received funds when certifying via the DOL Docusign email.
What about for the people who filled out the form on dol NY website? There was a form to fill out in messages but no docusign email.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: dreaming on May 19, 2020, 12:29:37 PM
He will only be able to certify once his claim is approved.
Have him check this link: https://unemployment.labor.ny.gov/ if it says he applied, he shouldn't apply again.

Thank you. When I used the link that you provided it. shows that the submission is confirmed.  I guess he will have to wait to claim weekly benefits when the system processes his claim.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 12:29:51 PM
What about for the people who filled out the form on dol NY website? There was a form to fill out in messages but no docusign email.

I'm on the fence about it... some haven't seen any funds released from those certifications, others saw only some weeks released even though they certified for many weeks.
Not sure if not certifying will trigger the docusign email faster, or if they'll hit a button tomorrow and release all those certified claims.

I guess if you have the option to certify backclaims do so. Somehow feels better than taking no action at all...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 19, 2020, 12:37:08 PM
What about for the people who filled out the form on dol NY website? There was a form to fill out in messages but no docusign email.
I didn't get either
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: YitzyS on May 19, 2020, 01:22:18 PM
I have a question, I hope someone here can help.

I filed a claim a week ago in NJ, being self-employed with a drop in income. I made a mistake on the application, checking off "not employed", as I didn't see an option for self-employed. On Friday, I found out how to properly fill out the application (thanks DDF) and I filed a new claim with the correct info.


My first claim was denied. Should I file an appeal on my first claim (saying that I made a mistake on the application), or will my second application kick in and supersede the first one?
BUMP.

I got a denial letter a month ago. I filed a new claim 3 weeks ago. No response. Status says $0.

How should I proceed?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 01:43:41 PM
Baruch Hashem!
Finally see on my ny labor acct that that i have benefit of $182 plus pua
How long has it taken for people to see the deposit?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 01:45:48 PM
Baruch Hashem!
Finally see on my ny labor acct that that i have benefit of $182 plus FPUC
How long has it taken for people to see the deposit?

1-2 business days from the release date listed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 01:50:09 PM
Thx.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 01:56:04 PM
Just wanted to add to something that has been discussed.
Labor dep system is extremely buggy.I could not certify the weeks i had not worked because the system claimed i had not answered questions although i had.Cleaned the cache and did not help.Finally used a different browser, Firefox and it went thru.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 01:59:03 PM
1-2 business days from the release date listed.

He said he sees he has a benefit determination, I’ve had that for much longer than 1-2 days and still no $$$?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 02:00:41 PM
He said he sees he has a benefit determination, I’ve had that for much longer than 1-2 days and still no $$$?

1-2 business days from the release date listed.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 02:18:04 PM


And if you’re approved and have been certifying and no Docusign and no release date? Then you just have to wait. Yippee!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
And if you’re approved and have been certifying and no Docusign and no release date? Then you just have to wait. Yippee!

😞😞😞
Actually haven't heard of new post-approval certifications not being released. That's odd.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 02:42:15 PM
😞😞😞
Actually haven't heard of new post-approval certifications not being released. That's odd.

I got a letter in the mail this past weekend dated 4/24/20 (it arrived 20 days later) that told me I have to submit proof of ID within 10 days or my claim will be denied. Meanwhile I got approved like two weeks ago and got one FPUC payment a few days later. No Docusign letter for me yet.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 02:49:29 PM
I got a letter in the mail this past weekend dated 4/24/20 (it arrived 20 days later) that told me I have to submit proof of ID within 10 days or my claim will be denied. Meanwhile I got approved like two weeks ago and got one FPUC payment a few days later. No Docusign letter for me yet.

But you're able to certify weekly?
Pro tip: if that ID request letter has a fax # where you can return it, do so with whatever they asked for. I'm noticing that communication (regardless if necessary) means that a live person reviews your account.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 19, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
Pro tip: if that ID request letter has a fax # where you can return it, do so with whatever they asked for. I'm noticing that communication (regardless if necessary) means that a live person reviews your account.
Does that happen with a fax faster than sending a message thru the website? I'm waiting like 6 weeks for NY DOL to answer my messages...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 19, 2020, 02:53:06 PM
I got a single FPUC $600 payment that’s not showing on my account. I don’t think I’m the only one...
Same here 2 FPUC payments not showing on the online account
Meanwhile I got approved like two weeks ago and got one FPUC payment a few days later. No Docusign letter for me yet.
Got approved like two weeks ago and got one FPUC payment a few days later, and another one today. No Docusign letter for me yet.

Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 02:57:22 PM
this is what i see
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 03:03:10 PM
i claimed unemployment from 03/09,last day of work was 03/08, so this week in the attachment that i did not claim shows 0
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 03:12:00 PM
Does that happen with a fax faster than sending a message thru the website? I'm waiting like 6 weeks for NY DOL to answer my messages...

Messages through message center doesn't really bring results. Fax is about 4 business days.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 19, 2020, 03:12:38 PM
Messages through message center doesn't really bring results. Fax is about 4 business days.
Interesting! Anyone have a fax # for NYS? And what to include so they know who you are?

I can just fax them whatever I wrote in the message :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 03:13:39 PM
i claimed unemployment from 03/09,last day of work was 03/08, so this week in the attachment that i did not claim shows 0

That's the waiting week which they'll release funds for God knows when...
About a day after your first post-approval certification you should (ideally) see 2 new lines for that week. One will be your weekly benefit payment, the other will be the $600. It will also have a release date, which is what I was referring to earlier.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 03:16:03 PM
Interesting! Anyone have a fax # for NYS? And what to include so they know who you are?

I can just fax them whatever I wrote in the message :)

I'm experimenting with the fax to see if they'll respond to other inquiries outside of the forms they provide.
Fax #: 518-457-9378
Start your letter off with:
Last Name:
First Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Claim Effective/Start Date:
Social Security number:

I'll post my results (assuming I see some).
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 19, 2020, 03:17:42 PM
Any thoughts on the safety of sending SSN by fax?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 19, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
Does anyone have an issue with claims certified this Sunday (in NY)?
I heard from a few people that certified Sunday but don't see it processed online.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: shwarmabob on May 19, 2020, 03:22:15 PM
Does anyone have an issue with claims certified this Sunday (in NY)?
I heard from a few people that certified Sunday but don't see it processed online.
nope, it worked OK
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 03:22:35 PM
Any thoughts on the safety of sending SSN by fax?

All DOL forms that you're legit supposed to return to that fax # require you to include your SS.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 19, 2020, 03:27:09 PM
All DOL forms that you're legit supposed to return to that fax # require you to include your SS.
fair enough :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on May 19, 2020, 03:30:51 PM
fair enough :)
Just triple check the number before you hit dial.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flyingace on May 19, 2020, 04:04:14 PM
When applying for partial unemployment in NJ,
1.When is last date worked? Is it the last day of FULL work or the current day since the person is still partially employed?
2.If a school paid salary in full through April 30, is the last day of work the last day paid or the actual last day in the building?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 04:09:24 PM
When applying for partial unemployment in NJ,
1.When is last date worked? Is it the last day of FULL work or the current day since the person is still partially employed?
2.If a school paid salary in full through April 30, is the last day of work the last day paid or the actual last day in the building?

1) last full day worked if you want an opportunity to see the $ for missed certifications
2) check the pay period covered by that last check
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flyingace on May 19, 2020, 04:12:43 PM
1) last full day worked if you want an opportunity to see the $ for missed certifications
2) check the pay period covered by that last check
School paid in full through April 30, even though no one was in the school building. So I would say last day worked April 30, right? And that would be called regular pay- not continuance or anything else?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
School paid in full through April 30, even though no one was in the school building. So I would say last day worked April 30, right? And that would be called regular pay- not continuance or anything else?

Continuance pay is considered wages so they won't care.
If the school reported on the paycheck that it's to cover the period up until 4/30, they probably didn't show a reduction in hours on their end, and thereby she'd only be eligible for UI once they a) stopped paying her or b) they started paying her less in comparison to a similar period.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flyingace on May 19, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
Continuance pay is considered wages so they won't care.
If the school reported on the paycheck that it's to cover the period up until 4/30, they probably didn't show a reduction in hours on their end, and thereby she'd only be eligible for UI once they a) stopped paying her or b) they started paying her less in comparison to a similar period.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 04:37:04 PM
But you're able to certify weekly?
Pro tip: if that ID request letter has a fax # where you can return it, do so with whatever they asked for. I'm noticing that communication (regardless if necessary) means that a live person reviews your account.

Letter specifically says not to fax IDs because it won’t be clear. And yes, they let me keep claiming benefits despite the letter.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 19, 2020, 07:03:35 PM
@cgr I'm confused. Is the maximum amount of weeks for the $600 payments 13 weeks? Because from what I understand, it's payable from Apr. 5 through July 31, which is a total of 17 weeks. So is a person eligible for these funds only for 13 weeks (provided they fall between those dates), or can they receive the $600 for the full 17 weeks?
What is the maximum amount of weeks one can rec' add'l $600?
I'm confused between the references of PEUC/PUA and talk about an extra 13 wks, etc.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 07:10:25 PM
@cgr I'm confused. Is the maximum amount of weeks for the $600 payments 13 weeks? Because from what I understand, it's payable from Apr. 5 through July 31, which is a total of 17 weeks. So is a person eligible for these funds only for 13 weeks (provided they fall between those dates), or can they receive the $600 for the full 17 weeks?
What is the maximum amount of weeks one can rec' add'l $600?
I'm confused between the references of PEUC/PUA and talk about an extra 13 wks, etc.
Thank you!
NY:
Regular UI- rates range between $104 and $504. Available for 26 weeks
PUA- rates range between $182 and $504. Available for 39 weeks (you only get 26 to start with)
FPUC- $600 available with each valid UI or PUA claim from 3/30-7/31
PEUC- additional 13 weeks of UI granted to all claimants who have exhausted their original 26 weeks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Eb228 on May 19, 2020, 07:44:58 PM
Any thoughts on the safety of sending SSN by fax?

It's actually much safer than email etc. Many medical estabkish,emts only send data via fax not email for this reason.

[Although nowadays most ppl fwd their fax to their email so not sure if its secure]
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 07:47:51 PM
It's actually much safer than email etc. Many medical estabkish,emts only send data via fax not email for this reason.

[Although nowadays most ppl fwd their fax to their email so not sure if its secure]

Not really true. Fax isn’t secure at all, and while email doesn’t have built in end-to-end encryption, I would trust e.g. gmail > gmail to be more secure than a phone line.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 19, 2020, 07:53:14 PM
OTOH I'd find it more exciting to hack an email than to hack a fax machine :)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: monoso on May 19, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
Did anyone get through to NJ unemployment? How?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 08:11:40 PM
OTOH I'd find it more exciting to hack an email than to hack a fax machine :)

Hacking a fax machine reminds me of phreaking, now that was cool!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 09:10:19 PM
Just got a text message from nys labor.
Has anyone else got one?
Told me benefit can now be paid. No request for personal info.
Anyone else got one?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 09:11:44 PM
Just got a text message from nys labor.
Has anyone else got one?
Told me benefit can now be paid. No request for personal info.
Anyone else got one?

?s=19
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 09:21:14 PM
Thx,
Was not sure if it was legit
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 19, 2020, 09:22:30 PM
They may be burning the midnight oil.Text came in at 9.08 pm
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 09:55:47 PM
Thx,
Was not sure if it was legit

It's legit, comes around the same time as the email.

They may be burning the midnight oil.Text came in at 9.08 pm

These things get processed in queues.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: SwellCindy on May 19, 2020, 10:14:53 PM
NY:
Regular UI- rates range between $104 and $504. Available for 26 weeks
PUA- rates range between $182 and $504. Available for 39 weeks (you only get 26 to start with)
FPUC- $600 available with each valid UI or PUA claim from 3/30-7/31
PEUC- additional 13 weeks of UI granted to all claimants who have exhausted their original 26 weeks

So is 18 the maximum amount of weeks one can possibly receive the $600/wk (3/30-7/31=18 wks)?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2020, 10:16:43 PM
So is 18 the maximum amount of weeks one can possibly receive the $600/wk (3/30-7/31=18 wks)?

Yes, unless the Federal Government extends it.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: googwallet on May 19, 2020, 11:14:59 PM
NY - My wife has the ability to telework but is unable to do so because she is caring for our children. She filled out the UI (or maybe PUA) form a month ago and now they are requesting that she fill another form. She has a W-2 job but I believe is not eligible for regular UI since she only took this job recently after being out of a job for a few months. The problem is, with this new form, there is no option to select childcare as the reason for applying. Once you select that you are able to work your regular hours via telework, the form questionnaire is done and you are (I assume) denied.
How can she apply using the childcare covered reason when she has the option to telework?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: tov hashem on May 19, 2020, 11:21:40 PM
They may be burning the midnight oil.Text came in at 9.08 pm
got it at 9:38pm
i did it with pua, i wonder if that means that its not a $0 approval since my last year income was $0 
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Realshlomo on May 19, 2020, 11:30:45 PM
NY - My wife has the ability to telework but is unable to do so because she is caring for our children. She filled out the UI (or maybe PUA) form a month ago and now they are requesting that she fill another form. She has a W-2 job but I believe is not eligible for regular UI since she only took this job recently after being out of a job for a few months. The problem is, with this new form, there is no option to select childcare as the reason for applying. Once you select that you are able to work your regular hours via telework, the form questionnaire is done and you are (I assume) denied.
How can she apply using the childcare covered reason when she has the option to telework?
If shes unable to telework while watching the children, then I don't think she actually has the ability to telework.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 11:42:59 PM
NY - My wife has the ability to telework but is unable to do so because she is caring for our children. She filled out the UI (or maybe PUA) form a month ago and now they are requesting that she fill another form. She has a W-2 job but I believe is not eligible for regular UI since she only took this job recently after being out of a job for a few months. The problem is, with this new form, there is no option to select childcare as the reason for applying. Once you select that you are able to work your regular hours via telework, the form questionnaire is done and you are (I assume) denied.
How can she apply using the childcare covered reason when she has the option to telework?

Here's the thing about telework:
According to the NY DOL if you're offered a telework option you don't qualify even with the childcare exception.
https://dol.ny.gov/pandemic-unemployment-assistance

According to the US DOL however, you do qualify if your child/ren would require constant attention and can't fend for themselves.
https://www.dol.gov/coronavirus/unemployment-insurance

So looks like it's a question that needs human communication... you might even need to point out the US DOL rules to them.

Not sure how to read this but this is NY DOL guidelines on the telework question:
?s=19
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 11:44:02 PM
got it at 9:38pm
i did it with pua, i wonder if that means that its not a $0 approval since my last year income was $0
On PUA in NY you get the minimum of $182, even if you had a loss on your Schedule.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 19, 2020, 11:45:19 PM
If shes unable to telework while watching the children, then I don't think she actually has the ability to telework.
@Realshlomo would love that to be the case but have a look at the DOL language in the post I just wrote up. It says "regardless of meeting a category listed above".
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 20, 2020, 12:00:08 AM
Just got a text message from nys labor.
Has anyone else got one?
Told me benefit can now be paid. No request for personal info.
Anyone else got one?
Same, and Email as well.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 20, 2020, 12:12:33 AM
@Realshlomo would love that to be the case but have a look at the DOL language in the post I just wrote up. It says "regardless of meeting a category listed above".
In the post is written...
You will not be eligible for PUA if you can telework, or if you are receiving paid sick leave or other paid leave benefits (regardless of meeting a category listed above).



Its not written if you were OFFERED to Telework (as in the Tweet) only If you "CAN", If you need to take care of child care, than you CAN'T TELEWORK and should be eligible.


[Rules are not setup by tweets)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 12:24:33 AM
In the post is written...
You will not be eligible for PUA if you can telework, or if you are receiving paid sick leave or other paid leave benefits (regardless of meeting a category listed above).



Its not written if you were OFFERED to Telework (as in the Tweet) only If you "CAN", If you need to take care of child care, than you CAN'T TELEWORK and should be eligible.


[Rules are not setup by tweets)
My understanding of the term "regardless of meeting a category listed above" is that taking away all those reasons, can you telework? If the answer is yes you are not eligible for PUA.

Tweets do give you an understanding of the DOLs intention in interpreting the laws they make...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 20, 2020, 12:31:11 AM
My understanding of the term "regardless of meeting a category listed above" is that taking away all those reasons, can you telework? If the answer is yes you are not eligible for PUA.

Tweets do give you an understanding of the DOLs intention in interpreting the laws they make...
The answer in "NO" I CAN'T TELEWORK Because I have children at home
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 20, 2020, 12:42:05 AM
These things get processed in queues.

I just realized, they might intentionally run these batches after hours so that processing them (which might include a lot more than sending texts/emails) doesn't bog down their systems during regular business hours.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ckmk47 on May 20, 2020, 12:59:38 AM
@cgr or anyone else,  Do you know the procedure to apply in PA?  Where would I look it up?  partial unemployment
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 01:19:55 AM
@cgr or anyone else,  Do you know the procedure to apply in PA?  Where would I look it up?  partial unemployment

Here you go: https://www.uc.pa.gov/unemployment-benefits/benefits-information/Pages/Partial-Benefit-Credit.aspx
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: lubaby on May 20, 2020, 01:36:51 AM
I just realized, they might intentionally run these batches after hours so that processing them (which might include a lot more than sending texts/emails) doesn't bog down their systems during regular business hours.
Correct, and why the “consumer” side of the website is closed after hours. Easier to track and process everything when nothing else is being submitted.

Quote
We're sorry, we are unable to serve you at this time due to technical difficulties or scheduled downtime for internal processing.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 20, 2020, 07:57:55 AM
Correct, and why the “consumer” side of the website is closed after hours. Easier to track and process everything when nothing else is being submitted.

Modern systems shouldn’t have these limitations, but they’re apparently still running on COBOL mainframes, so...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: etech0 on May 20, 2020, 09:12:32 AM
Correct, and why the “consumer” side of the website is closed after hours. Easier to track and process everything when nothing else is being submitted.
I shouldn't 'Like' this but it makes sense
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 20, 2020, 09:32:22 AM
Re partial unemployment in NJ, if I earn $1 less than my adjusted WBR (= WBR × 1.2) would I receive $1 benefit or $231 minimum benefit (+ $600)?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 09:58:30 AM
Re partial unemployment in NJ, if I earn $1 less than my adjusted WBR (= WBR × 1.2) would I receive $1 benefit or $231 minimum benefit (+ $600)?

When earning more than 20% of your benefit rate your benefit rate is recalculated with an additional 20%. This is your partial weekly rate. Your employment earnings for each week will then be deducted from your partial weekly benefit rate and you’ll be paid the remaining balance from the state.

As long as you receive at least $1 in unemployment, you'll receive the additional $600 (up until 7/31)

(If you earn less than 20% of your benefit rate you will receive your full benefit amount.)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 20, 2020, 10:13:53 AM
So odd, now I get a text reminding me to claim my weekly benefits if I haven’t yet, and this message from 4/23/2020 about a form (PUA application?) I already filled out is marked urgent in my inbox:

Quote
Dear xxxxx,

You may be eligible for Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA). Please click the link below to complete the online application for PUA. You may also reach My Online Forms from the My Online Services homepage.

https://apps.labor.ny.gov/OnlineServices/Ext/onlineforms/

Please note: If you have already completed the PUA Online Form you do not need to do it again.

Thank You,
NYS Department of Labor

My PUA seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 10:55:14 AM
So odd, now I get a text reminding me to claim my weekly benefits if I haven’t yet, and this message from 4/23/2020 about a form (PUA application?) I already filled out is marked urgent in my inbox:

My PUA seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place...

The message kinda makes sense because it won't disappear from your inbox if you didn't delete it.
Your PUA situation though... maybe resend the reconsideration just to get someone to have a look at your account? If they feel it's ok for them to send you forms after you've already provided what they need, maybe you should do the same >:(
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 20, 2020, 11:17:20 AM
The message kinda makes sense because it won't disappear from your inbox if you didn't delete it.
Your PUA situation though... maybe resend the reconsideration just to get someone to have a look at your account? If they feel it's ok for them to send you forms after you've already provided what they need, maybe you should do the same >:(

The preview on the main screen (where you click my inbox to see your messages) changed to show the message as urgent, I’m pretty that wasn’t there before today.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: googwallet on May 20, 2020, 11:18:51 AM
So looks like it's a question that needs human communication... you might even need to point out the US DOL rules to them.
Thank you.
The answer in "NO" I CAN'T TELEWORK Because I have children at home
That's a nice theory, but that's not the question on the form. The question is "Did your employer offer you remote work or work from home, doing your customary job for the same pay rate and same number of hours as you would normally work?". That doesn't leave any room for your interpretation.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 12:11:54 PM
To all PUA NY claimants who are receiving random $600 payments while their claim is in limbo:

A DOL spokesperson says, "Because of contradictory and cumbersome federal guidance, this subset of New Yorkers was mired in additional red tape -- so we moved heaven and earth to certify these payments while their claims are being processed, and we continue to expedite those efforts."
The DOL sent the $600 to a limited group stuck in the PUA application process before the state streamlined it last month. The DOL sent out that initial payment, the $600 federal pandemic unemployment compensation, while it processed their applications. The DOL plans on continuing these payments as applications are processed.

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/answers-about-600-dollar-mystery-new-york-state-unemployment-payment/71-66cfcc6c-9aec-4f09-9c41-7e5d6c281c71

I'm more interested in who they emailed that they got a response in 5 days...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Jellybelly on May 20, 2020, 03:08:05 PM
How long after applying for unemployment in NJ should I expect to see money in my account?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 20, 2020, 04:36:29 PM
The preview on the main screen (where you click my inbox to see your messages) changed to show the message as urgent, I’m pretty that wasn’t there before today.
correct.
until today it was only displayed once you clicked on my inbox.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 04:43:56 PM
correct.
until today it was only displayed once you clicked on my inbox.

Theory: the system flags all unread messages as urgent if you have't read it after X amount of days or the DOL sent out a mass update that all unread PUA messages be flagged urgent.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 20, 2020, 05:05:13 PM
I can't speak for others but we've been waiting mighty long already.
Time to start contacting assemblymen, congressman, & senators.
Update - NJ, self-employed.
We did a full-court press and contacted Senator Singer, Congressman Smith & Assemblyman Kean.
We have no idea who Hashem's messenger was, or if it would have come through without them, but we finally received $3600 for six weeks of FPUC.
IYH, it will continue weekly without issues.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 20, 2020, 05:06:13 PM
How long after applying for unemployment in NJ should I expect to see money in my account?
It took a long time for a lot of people.
Hang in there.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 20, 2020, 05:31:47 PM
Theory: the system flags all unread messages as urgent if you have't read it after X amount of days or the DOL sent out a mass update that all unread PUA messages be flagged urgent.
I have a message to fill out the pua form marked as urgent,(previously started the process,but ended completing over the phone) my case is approved,still need to fill it out?(ny)
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 20, 2020, 05:44:33 PM
I have a message to fill out the pua form marked as urgent,(previously started the process,but ended completing over the phone) my case is approved,still need to fill it out?(ny)
Do you already have a monetary determination?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Jellybelly on May 20, 2020, 05:46:41 PM
Update - NJ, self-employed.
We did a full-court press and contacted Senator Singer, Congressman Smith & Assemblyman Kean.
We have no idea who Hashem's messenger was, or if it would have come through without them, but we finally received $3600 for six weeks of FPUC.
IYH, it will continue weekly without issues.
Did they all respond? Who was the most helpful?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 20, 2020, 05:48:03 PM
Do you already have a monetary determination?
yes I have a specified amount
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: yosefsv on May 20, 2020, 05:58:17 PM
yes I have a specified amount
then you don't need to fill it out.
The message was always marked urgent, it was just not displayed on the main screen.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: WhiteWolf on May 20, 2020, 06:01:35 PM
NJ
A friend of mine got this email earlier today. His Application was 4/24. A little more patience, it looks like NJ DOL is finally getting somewhere.
"Department of Labor anticipates that applications like yours will be payable the week beginning May 24, 2020."

Thank you for your patience. We understand that these are difficult weeks, and knowing your unemployment application has not been approved does nothing to ease the burden. We are writing to update you on our progress.

Over the past few weeks we have been working on processing, by order of submission, applications that qualify for the federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance program (PUA).  We are currently assessing applications like yours for this new federal program.


Once approved, you will be able to claim all the weeks of benefits owed to you. Depending on when you filed your claim, there may be approved weeks of benefits on your claim up to and including the week that ends March 28. When you certify for benefits for those weeks, you will receive your weekly benefit amount. Starting with the week ending April 4, for each week that you certify for benefits, you will also receive the additional federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (PUC) of $600 per week, through the week of July 25.
Please monitor your email for a message from "NJDOL [ui-noreply@dol.nj.gov]." This email will notify you that your claim is ready for you to begin certifying weekly and describe the steps you must follow to ensure there are no further delays to your assistance payments.

Pandemic Unemployment Assistance is available for up to 39 weeks total; the NJ Department of Labor anticipates that applications like yours will be payable the week beginning May 24, 2020.

We recognize that the pandemic has made life difficult for many NJ workers. We will not stop working until every NJ worker is receiving the unemployment assistance they deserve.

Sincerely,
Division of Unemployment Insurance
New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 20, 2020, 06:08:01 PM
NJ
A friend of mine got this email earlier today. His Application was 4/24. A little more patience, it looks like NJ DOL is finally getting somewhere.
"Department of Labor anticipates that applications like yours will be payable the week beginning May 24, 2020."

Thank you for your patience. We understand that these are difficult weeks, and knowing your unemployment application has not been approved does nothing to ease the burden. We are writing to update you on our progress.

Over the past few weeks we have been working on processing, by order of submission, applications that qualify for the federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance program (PUA).  We are currently assessing applications like yours for this new federal program.


Once approved, you will be able to claim all the weeks of benefits owed to you. Depending on when you filed your claim, there may be approved weeks of benefits on your claim up to and including the week that ends March 28. When you certify for benefits for those weeks, you will receive your weekly benefit amount. Starting with the week ending April 4, for each week that you certify for benefits, you will also receive the additional federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (PUC) of $600 per week, through the week of July 25.
Please monitor your email for a message from "NJDOL [ui-noreply@dol.nj.gov]." This email will notify you that your claim is ready for you to begin certifying weekly and describe the steps you must follow to ensure there are no further delays to your assistance payments.

Pandemic Unemployment Assistance is available for up to 39 weeks total; the NJ Department of Labor anticipates that applications like yours will be payable the week beginning May 24, 2020.

We recognize that the pandemic has made life difficult for many NJ workers. We will not stop working until every NJ worker is receiving the unemployment assistance they deserve.

Sincerely,
Division of Unemployment Insurance
New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development
We all got same email
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 20, 2020, 06:18:53 PM
I noticed this from "my official record of benefit history" page on nys labor dep . "You last certified for benefits for the week ending 03/08/2020.
Your unpaid waiting period was processed on 05/18/2020."

Im not sure what they mean, since i sent them a form certifying all the weeks ending in 5/17/2020.Only after this did they tell me that my benefit had been accepted.Anyone have an idea? See attached doc. for the last week
"
















Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 06:31:50 PM
I noticed this from "my official record of benefit history" page on nys labor dep . "You last certified for benefits for the week ending 03/08/2020.
Your unpaid waiting period was processed on 05/18/2020."

Im not sure what they mean, since i sent them a form certifying all the weeks ending in 5/17/2020.Only after this did they tell me that my benefit had been accepted.Anyone have an idea? See attached doc. for the last week
"

They haven't processed it yet, and if you certified through your account (and not via docusign email) there's no telling when it will process.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: flatbush guy on May 20, 2020, 06:36:30 PM
thx
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 20, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
then you don't need to fill it out.
The message was always marked urgent, it was just not displayed on the main screen.
thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ah giten on May 20, 2020, 07:23:30 PM
I got this when signing in today, do I need to do anything to get retroactive benefits?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: WhiteWolf on May 20, 2020, 07:25:07 PM
We all got same email

Lets hope the 5/24 Date is correct!
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 20, 2020, 07:39:11 PM
Nj: What can be done for someone who missed the weekly certification deadline?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 07:51:25 PM
I got this when signing in today, do I need to do anything to get retroactive benefits?

You might have the option to certify all missed weeks in your account under "Online Forms". Not everyone has this option available, and unfortunately those who do have it and certify have not seen their funds released yet, or have only seen a part of the funds released.

Other option is to wait for the DOL docusign email. Funds from that are released in an efficient manner.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 07:52:00 PM
Nj: What can be done for someone who missed the weekly certification deadline?

File 2 weeks in next week's certification.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: avrohomgelb on May 20, 2020, 08:31:16 PM
File 2 weeks in next week's certification.
Unemployment was filed in February it says that I missed certification when I tried to certify on the correct day and time
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: Iz on May 20, 2020, 09:27:46 PM
File 2 weeks in next week's certification.
what will they do? Re the basic ui and $600.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 20, 2020, 10:01:57 PM
Did they all respond? Who was the most helpful?
They all responded.
Hard to say who was more helpful. Singer & Kean forwarded my email to the DOL. Kean asked me to be in touch if I have any update. Smith had me fill out a prepared form for people having issues.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 20, 2020, 10:04:18 PM
NJ
A friend of mine got this email earlier today. His Application was 4/24. A little more patience, it looks like NJ DOL is finally getting somewhere.
"Department of Labor anticipates that applications like yours will be payable the week beginning May 24, 2020."

Thank you for your patience. We understand that these are difficult weeks, and knowing your unemployment application has not been approved does nothing to ease the burden. We are writing to update you on our progress.

Over the past few weeks we have been working on processing, by order of submission, applications that qualify for the federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance program (PUA).  We are currently assessing applications like yours for this new federal program.


Once approved, you will be able to claim all the weeks of benefits owed to you. Depending on when you filed your claim, there may be approved weeks of benefits on your claim up to and including the week that ends March 28. When you certify for benefits for those weeks, you will receive your weekly benefit amount. Starting with the week ending April 4, for each week that you certify for benefits, you will also receive the additional federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (PUC) of $600 per week, through the week of July 25.
Please monitor your email for a message from "NJDOL [ui-noreply@dol.nj.gov]." This email will notify you that your claim is ready for you to begin certifying weekly and describe the steps you must follow to ensure there are no further delays to your assistance payments.

Pandemic Unemployment Assistance is available for up to 39 weeks total; the NJ Department of Labor anticipates that applications like yours will be payable the week beginning May 24, 2020.

We recognize that the pandemic has made life difficult for many NJ workers. We will not stop working until every NJ worker is receiving the unemployment assistance they deserve.

Sincerely,
Division of Unemployment Insurance
New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development
I thought PUA was supposed to be retroactive to the date of unemployment, which for many people was before the week ending in March 28.  :-\
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 10:07:35 PM
I thought PUA was supposed to be retroactive to the date of unemployment, which for many people was before the week ending in March 28.  :-\

PUA is retroactive to the date of unemployment, as far back as 2/2.
FPUC is only retroactive to 3/30
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 20, 2020, 10:22:55 PM
PUA is retroactive to the date of unemployment, as far back as 2/2.
FPUC is only retroactive to 3/30
In the context of that letter it seems to be referring to PUA not FPUC.
And besides, FPUC is supposed to be retroactive to the week ending 4/4 not 3/28.
So either way something is off.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 20, 2020, 10:30:26 PM
In the context of that letter it seems to be referring to PUA not FPUC.
And besides, FPUC is supposed to be retroactive to the week ending 4/4 not 3/28.
So either way something is off.

It mentions both PUA and FPUC.

It does state that FPUC is retroactive to the week ending in 4/4. The 3/28 is a referral to that individuals unemployment date/week.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: ae123 on May 20, 2020, 11:19:12 PM
NJ.
How can I check the status of my FPUC payments?
The NJ unemployment site only shows the PUA status.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 21, 2020, 10:49:27 AM
(ny)
How long after approval, are pua/fpuc payments being sent out? So far just see my last week worked in payment history
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 21, 2020, 10:53:08 AM
(ny)
How long after approval, are pua/fpuc payments being sent out? So far just see my last week worked in payment history

I'd say for 85%+ payments get released as you certify (the backpay is a separate issue).
Then there are a few lucky guys like @AsherO who are stuck in limbo...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: maxie m on May 21, 2020, 10:55:13 AM
I'd say for 85%+ payments get released as you certify (the backpay is a separate issue).
Then there are a few lucky guys like @AsherO who are stuck in limbo...
hmm, already certified from mid March till now. But was approved yesterday.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 21, 2020, 11:05:21 AM
hmm, already certified from mid March till now. But was approved yesterday.

Regarding backpay certifications:
You might have the option to certify all missed weeks in your account under "Online Forms". Not everyone has this option available, and unfortunately those who do have it and certify have not seen their funds released yet, or have only seen a part of the funds released.

Other option is to wait for the DOL docusign email. Funds from that are released in an efficient manner.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: AsherO on May 21, 2020, 11:06:18 AM
I'd say for 85%+ payments get released as you certify (the backpay is a separate issue).
Then there are a few lucky guys like @AsherO who are stuck in limbo...

Thanks for the shout out.

I got a letter in the mail today asking me to certify for a week during mid-March. If they included a time-machine I’d happily oblige...
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: springles on May 21, 2020, 11:19:00 AM
Not sure if anyone has addressed my question before. If someone works in a school so is employed 10 months a year and then usually has a summer job (let's say they work in a camp but every year is different). Can they apply for PUA if the summer job doesn't work out this year?
Thanks
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 21, 2020, 11:32:00 AM
Not sure if anyone has addressed my question before. If someone works in a school so is employed 10 months a year and then usually has a summer job (let's say they work in a camp but every year is different). Can they apply for PUA if the summer job doesn't work out this year?
Thanks

You can if you have a written offer of employment and it falls through.
If you can't find one because of the pandemic, then you're out of luck.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: springles on May 21, 2020, 01:07:27 PM
You can if you have a written offer of employment and it falls through.
If you can't find one because of the pandemic, then you're out of luck.
what if someone was going to be self employed for the summer?
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: cgr on May 21, 2020, 01:12:07 PM
what if someone was going to be self employed for the summer?

If you started working on a self-employment venture you're eligible (working on self-employment ventures is considered "work" under UI and needs to be reported). You'll need to submit a business plan or the like as proof.
Title: Re: Unemployment Help
Post by: thebudgetdeals on May 21, 2020, 01:30:16 PM
Thank you.That's a nice theory, but that's not the question on the form. The question is "Did your employer offer you remote work or work from home, doing your customary job for the same pay rate and same number of hours as you would normally work?". That doesn't leave any room for your interpretation.
An offer from your employer to work at home is not enough. He needs to provide you with with a Computer, Internet connection, and a quiet place to work. If you don't have that than he didn't provide you with an offer to Telework.